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I also bought a 3DS for Ace Attorney and also I am disappointed that we won't see a physical copy for the fifth entry in the series. However I still plan on buying it and the same goes for AA2 if it ever get released over here but it just makes me worry about the rest of the series getting localized.
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I can't understand the fuss.

If people don't have an Internet connection, then it's obviously bad news. But even many undeveloped countries have decent Internet these days. I.e India, Vietnam.

Anyone else, what's the big problem? You need to be touching, rubbing, and licking the box while playing the game? You think that a game on a cart is less prone to dying than a game on an SD card (if so, you should note that Nintendo lets you re download a game if you lose/break your DS). And, yes, one day Nintendo will probably stop that service, in the same way that once all physical copies break, they will be no more. Impermanence is the only guarantee in life - things die, people die, nothing lasts forever - get over it.

The majority of complaints I've heard seem to say less about the problems of the current market trends, and more about the psychological needs of consumers that can't cope with change. It reminds me of when people couldn't get their heads around Internet shopping or smart phones. You don't HAVE to change your mentality, but if you don't, you will miss out on some fun stuff for the sake of being stuck in your ways.

(Yes, I'm mean and heartless. Now please stop licking that game box.)


My problem with it is mostly how Capcom led us on. Yes, I like my physical copy much better than my digital (it comes with a free art reference that does not rely on electricity! Not to mention, if someone's giving out autographs, I can get it signed!), but I'd rather the series continued in the West in a digital format than not at all. And I was already upset about something else when I found out about this some hours ago... Actually, now that I've calmed down, I'm actually kind of relieved that it's digital-only. I won't feel the need to buy a second copy xD Though, it IS quite saddening I won't be able to rid myself of my pink 3DS in the near future...

Still annoyed that Capcom let us show our support for the physical and ignored it in the end, though. Gosh. Don't pretend like you're going to give us a shot if you never planned on it, Capcom.
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Don't forget that system transfer capabilities are built into the 3DS, so you can get the 3DSXLIDD (with blast processing!) when it comes out. Or whatever the next 3DS is, if Nintendo is planning to do that. Or a limited edition if you're into that.
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Quick question, RedPriest... if AAI 2 was (miraculously) localized and it was digital only, would you buy it? (There would be no feasible way of a physical release because the DS is outdated and almost done rolling out games.)


To be honest, no, I probably wouldn't, for the same reason I'm not buying DD. It's a bigger issue than AA for me. If the series is destined to go digital only outside Japan, it's dead to me. And I'd feel the same way of any series that did the same thing. Now, if AA6 is digital only from the get go, and they localize it, while I flat out hate digital only releases, I'd be open to buying it if it was SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than a retail release and if I had any interest in the series left at that point. Mind you if DD sells "well" I have no faith if 6 comes out they'll go back to a normal retail release for it outside of Japan unless there is some major changes in Capcom management. It's just going to reinforce Capcom's insulting direction that "digital is the way to go" for AA despite the overwhelming support for normal retail release.

Anyway, it is what it is at this point. No point in crying over spilled milk. The game is digital only and I will not be buying it. End of story. I'll get over it eventually just like I did AAI2 not coming over. I'll probably end up watching a LP of it at some point though, as I'm still quite interested in the game itself and I'd like to see what they do music wise. I still love the previous games and characters so there's still a lot to go back and enjoy.
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Quick question, RedPriest... if AAI 2 was (miraculously) localized and it was digital only, would you buy it? (There would be no feasible way of a physical release because the DS is outdated and almost done rolling out games.)


To be honest, no, I probably wouldn't, for the same reason I'm not buying DD. It's a bigger issue than AA for me. If the series is destined to go digital only outside Japan, it's dead to me. And I'd feel the same way of any series that did the same thing. Now, if AA6 is digital only from the get go, and they localize it, while I flat out hate digital only releases, I'd be open to buying it if it was SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than a retail release and if I had any interest in the series left at that point. Mind you if DD sells "well" I have no faith if 6 comes out they'll go back to a normal retail release for it outside of Japan unless there is some major changes in Capcom management. It's just going to reinforce Capcom's insulting direction that "digital is the way to go" for AA despite the overwhelming support for normal retail release.

Anyway, it is what it is at this point. No point in crying over spilled milk. The game is digital only and I will not be buying it. End of story. I'll get over it eventually just like I did AAI2 not coming over. I'll probably end up watching a LP of it at some point though, as I'm still quite interested in the game itself and I'd like to see what they do music wise. I still love the previous games and characters so there's still a lot to go back and enjoy.


Umm, not be a prick or anything; but I think that your acting incredibly childish and stupid about this. Be glad that we ARE getting Ace Attorney 5. You're seriously not going to get it? Seriously? Than why are you on this forum? Do you even care about the series? If everyone had your narrow mindset, than Dual Destinies definitely WILL be the last game in the series. We need people to buy it regardless if it's digital or not.

You'll watch an LP? But isn't that digital too? Are you going to download the videos and burn them onto a disc so you can have a "physical copy?" Listen man, everyone is just as bummed out as you are. But that's not going to stop us from playing this game. But that's fine. It's your loss and no one's forcing you to do anything.
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Actually your opinion does not bother me at all, no, so it's cool. I'm sure a lot of the folks who swore not to buy it will end up doing so in the end. I'm not. I'm fine with that. And yes, it's my loss. I choose not to support digital only releases of retail games. That doesn't not make me a fan. The world isn't black and white and neither is this issue. At this point though, no reason to debate anymore.
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........ Forgive me if this is off-topic, but I suddenly made the absurd connection that the digital vs. physical argument sounds an awful lot like our beloved ladder vs. stepladder. Y'know, never-ending argument and "narrow-minded cultural assumptions" and all those lovely things. :gregory:
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I have a few reasons to dislike the lack of a physical release in Europe, most of them I've mentioned before because I needed help to learn if I would even be able to buy the game in digital form. It turns out I will be, but it's just so much more complicated than buying a game at any local store or amazon, it isn't even funny. Because of the e-shop's requirements, I will have to buy or borrow whatever I need to make my internet wireless (I wrote it down somewhere, but don't remember what exactly I need). I will also have to buy points to spend at the e-shop online, on a site I didn't find via Google and wouldn't have found at all if another member hadn't helpfully linked me to it. The least I would expect from e-shop is to accept Paypal.
Plus I just generally don't like my games to be stuck on a specific console. If the console breaks or has a problem reading the game, my guess is I'll have to buy a new game along with the console, because I can't just take it out and stick it into the new one.
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Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
I have a few reasons to dislike the lack of a physical release in Europe, most of them I've mentioned before because I needed help to learn if I would even be able to buy the game in digital form. It turns out I will be, but it's just so much more complicated than buying a game at any local store or amazon, it isn't even funny. Because of the e-shop's requirements, I will have to buy or borrow whatever I need to make my internet wireless (I wrote it down somewhere, but don't remember what exactly I need). I will also have to buy points to spend at the e-shop online, on a site I didn't find via Google and wouldn't have found at all if another member hadn't helpfully linked me to it. The least I would expect from e-shop is to accept Paypal.
Plus I just generally don't like my games to be stuck on a specific console. If the console breaks or has a problem reading the game, my guess is I'll have to buy a new game along with the console, because I can't just take it out and stick it into the new one.


That's true and I have the same problem, but that's more the fault of the Nintendo E-shop than Capcoms. It would be way easier if we could use Ideal (sort of dutch paypal ) , but you gotta play with the cards you're dealth with.

I also preferred a hard-copy release but the important thing is that I can get to play it.

On the other hand. I hope that AA x PL game makes AA more popular in the west which would cause more copies to be sold and therefore turning some heads at Capcom HQ. For some reason I get the feeling it's make or break it time for AA with these 2 titles. (don't know why though)
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I was just hoping for a preorder special. Did you guys see what they (japan) got when they preorderd? I would give (almost) anything for that phoenix statue. :godot:

The statue was part of the limited edition and obviously not a pre-order bonus.


Well, that's because the release is eShop only, so basically, they could just go and say 'wondering when AA5 is released in the West? Well, guess what, you can download it NOW!'.
With a physical copy, you have to plan ahead (manufacturing of the carts, shipping to retailers, etc...), and therefore, you need a release date sooner (besides, you can't really hide stuff when you're sending it to retails and such, as leaks are inevitable).

But with a Digital-only release, there's no such things. We've seen it with many eShop-only games that are released 5mn after the end of a Nintendo Direct.

I don't think Capcom will do that for AA5, and that we should get the release date soon.
Still, would be nice if they did a "available right after this Nintendo Direct!" thing :phoenix:
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My opinion on this:

Do you want to play the game? Of course you do, you are here after all!

Are you prepared to actually pay for the game? Then you should ask your bank if you don't have a credit card already.

Do you have a working Internet connection? Well, you are here, aren't you?

Do you want swag? Of course you do. Too bad that Capcom isn't very good at importing it.

Do you want a piece of plastic that contains a copy of what you could just as easily download? Then you need to stop screaming at children to get off your lawn.
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Do you have a working Internet connection? Well, you are here, aren't you?


Not everyone who has a working internet connection has a working wireless internet connection. I have to use my smartphone to connect my 3DS to the internet and my connection on there isn't exactly the fastest, so I have no idea if I'll even be able to download the game. Not to mention the fact that Nintendo of Europe simply ignores many countries, so I had to go to quite some trouble to even get eShop Points.
If digital-only really makes a faster localization possible, I'm all for it, but please, it can't be impossible to release a physical version a few weeks/months later.
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I still don't see why people are STILL arguing about this. Anybody who continues to complain about not getting a physical copy needs to get over their spoilt selves and just be happy we are actually getting the game in the first place. Why can nobody just be happy about the fact that we are getting the game and rather than try to explore every possible negative factor.
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I'm disappointed that a physical release is completely off the table, but like many I'm just glad that we're getting it in English in the first place. Let's just all be happy and love AA okay~
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As I said, I love the series. I'm not pleased but not angry about the western digital release. I'm angry against CAPCOM Europe (who never shown themself to Gamescom BTW) who makes the game coming in ENGLISH only for AA5. And you must see the post Capcom France gave us to explain that : https://www.facebook.com/CapcomFrance - Look of the posts concerning AA. You will know why much European fans are angry about that.
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henke37 wrote:
Then you need to stop screaming at children to get off your lawn.


I will do no such thing sir.
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I still don't see why people are STILL arguing about this. Anybody who continues to complain about not getting a physical copy needs to get over their spoilt selves and just be happy we are actually getting the game in the first place. Why can nobody just be happy about the fact that we are getting the game and rather than try to explore every possible negative factor.

Okay, look: First of all, everybody's entitled to their opinion. Since it's nothing offensive, we are also entitled to voice our opinions.
It doesn't work like "everyone who agrees with me is allowed to speak up, everyone who disagrees with me in the slightest detail has to suck it up". The world doesn't work that way.

Second: I explained my reasons for why I would prefer a physical release. I'm neither spoiled, nor do I live in an environment where I have to ask you or anybody else what I am allowed to be upset about or how I must feel about certain things. You're happy with a digital release? That's great. I am not. Your attempt of shaming me into happiness is not going to change this fact. If the game turns out to be good, will I be happy about that? -Of course. But would I still prefer a physical copy? -Yes sir, I would.
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Not to mention the fact that Nintendo of Europe simply ignores many countries, so I had to go to quite some trouble to even get eShop Points.


Just get a credit card. I bet that you can get one approved before Capcom even manages to tell us the release date.
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Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
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I still don't see why people are STILL arguing about this. Anybody who continues to complain about not getting a physical copy needs to get over their spoilt selves and just be happy we are actually getting the game in the first place. Why can nobody just be happy about the fact that we are getting the game and rather than try to explore every possible negative factor.

Okay, look: First of all, everybody's entitled to their opinion. Since it's nothing offensive, we are also entitled to voice our opinions.
It doesn't work like "everyone who agrees with me is allowed to speak up, everyone who disagrees with me in the slightest detail has to suck it up". The world doesn't work that way.

Second: I explained my reasons for why I would prefer a physical release. I'm neither spoiled, nor do I live in an environment where I have to ask you or anybody else what I am allowed to be upset about or how I must feel about certain things. You're happy with a digital release? That's great. I am not. Your attempt of shaming me into happiness is not going to change this fact. If the game turns out to be good, will I be happy about that? -Of course. But would I still prefer a physical copy? -Yes sir, I would.


You Fool! Don't be so Pessimistic! :karma:

Jokes aside, this is very true, although I am one of the people who has no problems with digital only, that hardly means I can go arround telling the people who disagree with me to shut up. :zenitora: What I can do, however is try and make people who do not agree with my opinion change their point of view, preferably, not by shoving my 'perfect and irrefutable opinion' :franny: on other people.
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Wait a minute. The "Turnabout Reclaimed" title is allegedly given by Yamazaki, in which case it's a translation, so it's not reliable. On the other hand, the same blogger referred to the case as "Turnabout Return" earlier on, though he just referred to it as such without explanation, so it's not reliable. What the hell, "Chris"?
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Umm... I have a question.
I live in Asia, so is it possible for me to download the game? Or can it only be in NA? Based on this IS need to decide whether to purchase a 3DS or not.
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Then you need to stop screaming at children to get off your lawn.


Children, get off my lawn! THERE ARE MINES!

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As I said, I love the series. I'm not pleased but not angry about the western digital release. I'm angry against CAPCOM Europe (who never shown themself to Gamescom BTW) who makes the game coming in ENGLISH only for AA5. And you must see the post Capcom France gave us to explain that : https://www.facebook.com/CapcomFrance - Look of the posts concerning AA. You will know why much European fans are angry about that.


... wow, that just made me realize how rusty I am at French :sadshoe: That's, uh... Gosh. I used Google Translate (which for once has a coherent translation!) and it still feels like they're speaking a whole 'nother language. I can't even say anything to the crap they fed you guys. "Rester fidèle à l'authenticité de la marque/remain faithful to the authenticity of the brand", my ass. Unless they're running into things that they just can't safely localize to any language but English (which I highly doubt), I don't see how keeping AA5 to Japanese and English only does anything for the game's authenticity.
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While I am amazingly excited for this game, I am also upset there is no physical release. Now, for me personally the need to see DD sell well/the need to play it myself outweighs my objections to the Digital format, I still think it's a huge disappointment that this game is not being released physically.

At first I was upset about the DD, but then I thought it was really a good idea: it cuts costs, it allows for faster distribution, it means people will have to buy a new-full priced version and the money will go directly to Capcom. But this was when I had the impression that Capcom was finally going to handle drumming up interest/marketing for this game. Capcom released the english announcement back in May and for a while there was a pretty big following around the news, including from people who hadn't played AA in years or who had never played an AA game before. They should have announced a release month back at E3 followed by a new English trailer and an exact release date earlier this month. There hasn't been enough official news to keep the interest, and I'm worried that by the time the game comes out non-AA fans will have forgotten about the game. Hopefully when PLvsAA is released later this year it will drum up some more interest.

Still, I'm upset. At this point I'm starting to question if the digital release really will lead to more sales, or if the benefit of having the game on store shelves would have in the end sold more copies. I guess we'll know soon enough.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the Digital release is the worst thing in the world. I just assumed that the digital release would mean they'd focus attention on making sure it was the digital release people were talking about, and so far I feel like DD is an afterthought to everyone including Capcom.

Now, if Capcom doesn't announce a release date at PAX Prime I'm just going to be in disbelief. I'm going to be so upset if this is one of those situations where we hear about a release date a week before the game comes out or something.
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Thank you, it's an excellent point and I wish more people thought that way because i'm getting tired of all the focus on Capcom's marketing when it's not really a big deal.
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I, like ADA, would hope that they announce the release date at PAX Prime. Brelston said "Soon. That information always comes, just a bit longer" on the twitter.

Also, Greg Moore's stance on the Digi/Physi:

"I get why you'd want a box, but boycotting won't make it happen. The brand needs support in the West right now. It's worth noting that the last Ace game didn't get a Western release period. I don't want that to happen again."

And a little bit of sense was made that day. :pearl:
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As glad as I am that the game is getting localized at all, I am upset (though not surprised) at the fact that it's digital-only. I'm heading off to college in less than a month where I'll have no access to wireless Internet (even at public places with free Wifi), which means I don't have a chance of playing it before next summer. I also know several people who are in the same boat.

That being said, I can kind of understand where Capcom is coming from. They can't very well do a physical release without spending a lot of extra money that they don't know they'll be getting back through sales. Still, I'm a little angry that the only reason they've given for deciding on digital-only is to save time (when they haven't even given a tentative release date other than fall 2013), since the digital release is actually delaying my personal purchase of the game. All I can say is that I hope people don't let this news stop them from buying the game. In my opinion, Ace Attorney in any form is a win, and I'd be heartbroken if there are more games in the future that don't get localized. :acro:
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As glad as I am that the game is getting localized at all, I am upset (though not surprised) at the fact that it's digital-only. I'm heading off to college in less than a month where I'll have no access to wireless Internet (even at public places with free Wifi), which means I don't have a chance of playing it before next summer. I also know several people who are in the same boat.

That being said, I can kind of understand where Capcom is coming from. They can't very well do a physical release without spending a lot of extra money that they don't know they'll be getting back through sales. Still, I'm a little angry that the only reason they've given for deciding on digital-only is to save time (when they haven't even given a tentative release date other than fall 2013), since the digital release is actually delaying my personal purchase of the game. All I can say is that I hope people don't let this news stop them from buying the game. In my opinion, Ace Attorney in any form is a win, and I'd be heartbroken if there are more games in the future that don't get localized. :acro:


I think the "time thing" is BS and is just a way of explaining it without saying that they just don't think it will sell well enough physically.

I think the answers Sven used to give us about profits and business made a lot more sense than the stuff we're getting now. Now that he's gone we're going to have to be prepared to listen to a lot of spin, as Eshiro and the other Capcom USA members interviewed since haven't mentioned business/profits once.
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Why do people who don't care about collections and physical releases feel the need to make these comments subtly implying those who do are stupid or stuck in an inferior, draconian mindset? So you don't understand the appeal of owning a physical collection, which is perfectly fair, but some people do find that appealing. Why write these pointless posts that basically amount to nothing more than, "haha, I'm perfectly fine with buying digital and you aren't"?
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While I am amazingly excited for this game, I am also upset there is no physical release. Now, for me personally the need to see DD sell well/the need to play it myself outweighs my objections to the Digital format, I still think it's a huge disappointment that this game is not being released physically.

At first I was upset about the DD, but then I thought it was really a good idea: it cuts costs, it allows for faster distribution, it means people will have to buy a new-full priced version and the money will go directly to Capcom. But this was when I had the impression that Capcom was finally going to handle drumming up interest/marketing for this game. Capcom released the english announcement back in May and for a while there was a pretty big following around the news, including from people who hadn't played AA in years or who had never played an AA game before. They should have announced a release month back at E3 followed by a new English trailer and an exact release date earlier this month. There hasn't been enough official news to keep the interest, and I'm worried that by the time the game comes out non-AA fans will have forgotten about the game. Hopefully when PLvsAA is released later this year it will drum up some more interest.

Still, I'm upset. At this point I'm starting to question if the digital release really will lead to more sales, or if the benefit of having the game on store shelves would have in the end sold more copies. I guess we'll know soon enough.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the Digital release is the worst thing in the world. I just assumed that the digital release would mean they'd focus attention on making sure it was the digital release people were talking about, and so far I feel like DD is an afterthought to everyone including Capcom.

Now, if Capcom doesn't announce a release date at PAX Prime I'm just going to be in disbelief. I'm going to be so upset if this is one of those situations where we hear about a release date a week before the game comes out or something.


I think that Layton vs AA will likely generate some interest/exposure for DD, but unless Capcom does some serious marketing, I don't think it will have much impact. The number of non fan potential customers who might see the game on the shelf at say Gamestop or Walmart is infinitely higher than the number who browse the eshop. I honestly just don't see how it gets any exposure, or certainly not more exposure than past retail releases. And thus far, they've not really done anything that indicates they're changing gears at all.
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I think the "time thing" is BS and is just a way of explaining it without saying that they just don't think it will sell well enough physically.

I think the answers Sven used to give us about profits and business made a lot more sense than the stuff we're getting now.

Ditto. Eshiro has been giving us some rather questionable answers.
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Now, if Capcom doesn't announce a release date at PAX Prime I'm just going to be in disbelief. I'm going to be so upset if this is one of those situations where we hear about a release date a week before the game comes out or something.

What I'm most concerned about is 1) Dual Destinies needs to get on a Nintendo Direct and 2) Avoid the incoming the biggest 3DS game of the year... Pokémon X/Y.
The new pokemon is going to likely be the highest selling 3DS game to this point, and with it also being available on the eShop, I have a bad feeling that X/Y will be on the front of the eShop for weeks, and if DD comes out around October 12 (X/Y's release date) then it will get buried. Non-fans will be too busy to notice/have time to play Dual Destinies. It NEEDS to get everyone's attention and capture it quickly. Please, Capcom, don't screw this up.
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Why do people who don't care about collections and physical releases feel the need to make these comments subtly implying those who do are stupid or stuck in an inferior, draconian mindset? So you don't understand the appeal of owning a physical collection, which is perfectly fair, but some people do find that appealing. Why write these pointless posts that basically amount to nothing more than, "haha, I'm perfectly fine with buying digital and you aren't"?

Some others have been a tad offensive, and repetitive. However, many people here are desperate for AA to live on and we are trying to convince people who won't buy the game to do so.
I completely understand the physical side of the argument. I would much rather have a physical copy than a digital one. However, over the choice of 1) No DD for you and 2) DD is Digital Only I will happily select option 2.
I do not mean to be angry or throw insults at the other side. The others and I just want AA to stay in the West.
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Some others have been a tad offensive, and repetitive. However, many people here are desperate for AA to live on and we are trying to convince people who won't buy the game to do so.
I completely understand the physical side of the argument. I would much rather have a physical copy than a digital one. However, over the choice of 1) No DD for you and 2) DD is Digital Only I will happily select option 2.
I do not mean to be angry or throw insults at the other side. The others and I just want AA to stay in the West.


Well, I certainly agree with that. I intend to buy the game day 1 despite it being digital only, and I'm sure there are others out there who plan on doing the same, even if they prefer physical. I wasn't objecting to being passionate about the series and wanting it to endure in the West, because I'm a huge fan of the series myself and also want it to endure in the West. If anything, it's because I'm such a big fan of the series that I'm annoyed I can't get a physical copy to adorn my collection along with the other AA games.
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I'M SHOCKED! Not really. I expected as much but personally I don't really see the problem with the digital only route. Sure it sucks if you don't have an internet connection but there are plenty of places that give off free wifi. Personally the only difference between a physical release and a digital release that I see is that you can sell back a physical copy. And to be fair Ace attorney has a habit of being sold back a lot. I personally never have nor will sell back an AA game but I can see why someone would. A lot of people see this as evil as its just capcom wanting more money. Well guess what? Everyone wants more money. Capcom didn't do so well last year. Yes they still have money but people need profits. The game coming here at all is a great thing digital or not.
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At least Dual Destinies won't ever go out of print and become rare as fuck like the other Ace Attorney games. Seeing them in a local game shop is like sighting Goddamn Gordy itself. And at least on the e-shop, DD will be put in the spotlight (I hope) and not shoved aside/put behind all the other games by some employee taking one look at it and going "Pffttt what is this shit?".

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At least Dual Destinies won't ever go out of print and become rare as fuck like the other Ace Attorney games. Seeing them in a local game shop is like sighting Goddamn Gordy itself. And at least on the e-shop, DD will be put in the spotlight (I hope) and not shoved aside/put behind all the other games by some employee taking one look at it and going "Pffttt what is this shit?".

Gotta think positive :phoenix:


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That's an interesting point, though, it makes me wonder - will the games in the e-shop be available forever? Or only until they think interest wore off? I hope it's not the latter. :/
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That's an interesting point, though, it makes me wonder - will the games in the e-shop be available forever? Or only until they think interest wore off? I hope it's not the latter. :/


Methinks they'll make another console and front a new "download your games" thing, like how WiiWare and DsiWare existed before the e-shop was around. Hopefully DD and the rest will simply be put onto said new download system and everything will be alright :gymshoe:
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Not everything is always going to be backwards compatible. There will come a time when that happens for the 3DS, and then, unlike physical retail releases it's just gone. The PS4 isn't BC at all with PS3 or it's eshop. I would expect Sony to continue support for the PS3 for a number of years on that end, but 10, 20 years from now? All the digital only titles for PS3 are gone. That is but one of a lengthy number of problems with digital only. The negatives outweigh the positives so overwhelmingly as it currently stands. There are a number of facts that are often ignored or glossed over when some people try to flatly portray digital as superior to physical releases.
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Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
That's an interesting point, though, it makes me wonder - will the games in the e-shop be available forever? Or only until they think interest wore off? I hope it's not the latter. :/


At the very least, the game should continue to be available as long as the eShop exists. I don't think the DSi eShop has been shut down yet, so hopefully the 3DS eShop would continue to exist for a while similarly.

I wonder if the next portable Nintendo console will be 3D or not, and if it'll be backwards compatible even if there's no 3D. Considering that the 3DS uses ARM and x86 is nowhere near the mobile market yet, I can see backwards compatibility being possible (unlike the PS3's Cell architecture which isn't used much elsewhere).

TheRedPriest: The PS4 may not be backwards compatible (for clear reasons if you know anything about computer hardware), but Sony did say they plan to make an OnLive-like service so you can play PS3 games on it. Of course, that's even less desirable than digital only, but it at least shows that they don't want to leave the PS3 behind any time soon. Microsoft, on the other hand...
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blahmoomoo, yeah, I'm aware. It's not a pressing issue in the short term though. And yes, what Microsoft had planned was indefensible.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
Disappointing, though to be honest I wasn't expecting the situation to change at all so I'm not all that surprised. Still, I find it ironic that while they're urging a "quick release" as the primary reason for digital only, we're already a month behind the Japanese release.


It took over a year after the Japanese release for T&T to be released in Europe. Therefore, DD being released outside of Japan only a couple months after the Japanese release is definitely what I'd call a "quick release".

As for the whole "digital-only" issue, I'm pretty sure that ALL games will become digital-only, at some point (so you'd better get used to it).
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