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Which is exactly the reason she started 7 years later, at the age of 18, instead of 2 years later, at the age of 13? The biggest issue her, I think is your underestimation of human potential.


Sorry man perhaps it's me but this argument doesn't even make sense grammatically to me. I have no idea what kind of point you are trying to get across with it. :judge: Penalty.

I'm pretty sure what Sligneris was trying to say was, "Athena didn't have a super-parent backing up her education like Franzy did, which is why Athena became a lawyer at 18, rather than at 13 like Franzy did."
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Which is exactly the reason she started 7 years later, at the age of 18, instead of 2 years later, at the age of 13? The biggest issue her, I think is your underestimation of human potential.


Sorry man perhaps it's me but this argument doesn't even make sense grammatically to me. I have no idea what kind of point you are trying to get across with it. :judge: Penalty.

I'm pretty sure what Sligneris was trying to say was, "Athena didn't have a super-parent backing up her education like Franzy did, which is why Athena became a lawyer at 18, rather than at 13 like Franzy did."


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Sorry Sligneris but you can't rest yet, you've got all my points to burn through as well. I have that article that clarifies Gabrielle Turnquest's success.
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Sligneris wrote:
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Klavier: Anyway, I studied abroad in Germany to get my badge early, but I did graduate from here.

Thank you for this correction. However, I am somewhat confused as to what it means. It means he studied all these years in Germany and only got to Themis in the last year? Or even, in the end of it?

In the Japanese version he says this:
ぼくはこの学園の卒業生だからね。
在学中に、アメリカに留学して
検事の資格を取ったんだよ。

Which means something like:
"I graduated from this academy. While in the school, I studied abroad in America and got the qualifications for being a prosecutor."

Which for me seems to mean that he didn't go to America/Germany until he went to Themis, meaning he had a normal school career in Japan/America until high school.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Wait a minute, that's not what I meant at all. You said she studied in Germany, I was just saying that in the game, she says she studied in "Europe", and never specifies "Germany". I never implied she was travelling across Europe, I think she stayed in a single place but I'm just saying we don't know which country it was. It could have been in the UK.

Okay, I suppose I should apologize and thank you for correcting me. However, if you must know, I don't like leaving posts where I simply say "my bad". I need to include something stupid, whether or not it's that funny.

But I also have to thank you for giving my headcanon something new: Athena has a British accent. :D

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Or perhaps, Metis just liked dressing up her daughter with shining things.


New headcanon.


Widget clearly served as an interface to express Android!Thena's thoughts and feelings before they had finished building her.

After all if they couldn't nail down the heart and self properly in the programming they weren't ready for a physical shell for her core Ai.

You'd think that Metis, with all her weeaboo love, would make Athena look a little more Japanglish herself. Instead, Blacky got all the cool samurai motifs. Why couldn't we have had a teenaged samurai android for an assistant?

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She said that Widget blurts out what she's thinking, however it doesn't necessarily mean that it was exactly reading her mind. Widget could have "learned" that phrase from her, could have seen how Gaspen treated her and could have felt Athena's anger... And so, he reacted in a way similar to her. He was her assistance for seven years, after all. It was all the points I made in that post.

My God, and I thought Widget was already OP. Now he's even at the level of being capable of learning!?

Screw the mind-reading theory. I propose that Widget is actually the one controlling Athena's thoughts.
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Since you seem to have missed the joke: The "Athena is an android!" theory is not a "real" that we actually believe, but rather a theory used to demonstrate the point that Athena is not a very well-constructed character by pointing out how much better her character is explained by something stupid like "she's a robot" compared to the face-value canon explanation.

Which is exactly why I find it the more annoying... It's like you assumed it's a fact that she's a badly constructed character instead of just a subjective opinion. Even if you deny it, you sort of behave that way. That sort of thing is capable of ruining positive experience of someone who kind of enjoyed it and still tries to enjoy it...

I have barely met criticism so invasive ever in this fandom (and I do know there are some other crazy theories or the elements that are hated), or any other, actually.

*takes deep breath*

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Don't be silly Sligneris, you're cool. You just gotta build up some confidence!
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Don't be silly Sligneris, you're cool. You just gotta build up some confidence!


Yeah man, and just stay calm about a few things. Not everyone is out to slate Athena, some folks are just wondering what other perspectives there are on the character.
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My problem with Athena is that she's a prodigy. I always found the attorneys charming and relatable because they're the underdogs who became attorneys at a "normal" age. In the first two games, you have Phoenix versus Miles and the von Karmas. As for Godot, he isn't a prodigy, but you could tell he's not an amateur. Then we have Apollo who is another average guy who faces off against Klavier, prosecutor and rock god since the age of 17. While Athena's accomplishments are commendable, she doesn't feel like an underdog like the other two.

Another reason I found her annoying was because I was expecting the game to focus on Apollo, his background and Phoenix's return to law. Instead, we spent a lot of time with her and as her when I just wanted to play as Nick.


This pretty much sums up my feelings about Athena. I would definitely prefer if she was more of an underdog too.

Now, I don't love her, I don't hate her, I'm just annoyed and I really don't care all that much about her.

I really wanted the main focus be on Apollo and his developement, and also Wright's return to law.
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I didn't mean that translated to real life, I was referring to the reading of body language. Hell the real-life example of it is actually mentioned in Game. Phoenix lacks any magical power of his own but with a bit of help from Trucy he can read 'tells' from his opponents at Poker. Hell he even did it before he met Trucy in order to beat Zak at Poker. Reading people's tells and motions is something that's done in real life, typically in poker. We use it every day, we can tell when someone shuffles about uncomfortably or when they are excited by their movements, this is just for subtler motions. Also Apollo's power is totally hereditary...that's why Trucy has it too, it's explained as being in the Gramarye bloodline.

I think you misunderstand my point here. I don't doubt it is hereditary in the game, I meant to say there that I never heard of hereditary eyesight xD


Ok? :ron: There's a lot more you could say I have no idea what your original point is then? Does it matter if you've never heard of it?
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^ Mr. I-don't-know-fear is a good the best one. What a beautiful breakdown.

Thinking back over the last case; is the reason the judge accepted Athena's gifts as basis only because he believes in her power, or also because it wasn't an official trial?

Even as an unofficial trial, they gathered info about the big bad legally, so his arrest is still warranted, but technically, they shouldn't have been able to arrest the guy based on such flimsy arguments that still managed to crack him.

Hence why I take it as an "unofficial arrest". Whether or not that arrest became official would have to be up to Blacky.
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Sligneris wrote:
...I just realize I went out of topic there with Apollo.

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I really don't know where you are going with this, I think I'm going to have to give you another penalty. No I'm not claiming there's any literal stuff like that, no I'm not denying it's possible to hear emotions in a person's voice to hear anguish sadness and anger no. Those are regular human traits nothing supernatural about it. ATHENA on the other hand hears concealed emotions, she hears the subconscious. I can tell when my own voice gets sad or angry I'm aware of it. She hears the emotions of someone when they aren't aware, she hears the subconscious and the heart. From what I recall most of her 'counselling' sessions resulted in her helping someone 'piece together' memories that were unclear from their emotions. Things they didn't know at the time, sort of like Phoenix's black psyche locks. The ability to hear the heart, and the subconsciousness is most definitely supernatural. If it gets so bad that once upon a time she had to wear specially made headphones to drown out the voices in her head? It's definitely a superpower.


Huh? When exactly did she detect an emotion someone wasn't aware of?


Most of the time.

Junie didn't know why she was happy despite the rocks falling towards her, then she remembered why.

Pretty much the way the mood matrix went was "X doesn't know why emotion X is present therefore remembers why they felt that way and updates testimony" and repeat.

It's like how it went all the time except the finale.

Also I put quite a lot of time into my reply yesterday :ron: I'd appreciate an answer.
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Double Post cause it's been a few days.

Callin' you out Sligneris, I put time into that reply the other day but BP finished his before mine so you only dealt with his. Now I've got no problem with us just walking away and letting each other be, you're entitled to your opinion after all but let me know if that's the case and that's fine.

Otherwise you started this debate man, least you could do is see it through. :ron:
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Here are my thoughts:

Spoiler: I dunno...it says "spoiler" in the title...whatever
I cannot consider Athena a "Mary Sue" by virtue of her objective in trying to exonerate Simon.

The retrial Aura held only brought out information that would have had to be revealed anyway so even if Athena herself championed it, the facts would have remained the same and would have had to have been discussed in order to prove Simon's innocence (namely the scene Simon found when he opened the door). Therefore Athena would incriminate herself. Having Aura sponsor the trial only made it easier to identify Athena as the killer since now it's Aura's word against the named defendant (and conveniently, a defendant who is also supposed to stand trial for a more recent murder, making it all the more suspicious that she has other skeletons in her closet).

To really be "Ms. Patty Perfect", the scenario that comes about from releasing Simon from his charges should have no negative consequences for her. If she had been by herself in trying to free Simon, I'm almost sure everything would have flipped around on her and wound up getting her convicted in his place. So either she would fail to get Simon off the hook (since Simon wouldn't tolerate her setting herself up to fail and resist all the way down) or she would only succeed in convincing the court that the only party that had any opportunity to do the deed was the little girl standing alone in the room with her mother.

Having a third party examine the evidence, scene, and facts (Phoenix) was the only way to save both of them because he has objectivity that they lack. Simon's unwillingness to let Athena take the fall and Athena's own clouded memories of that day would only get them so far (the conviction of one of them) while Phoenix's ability to just read things purely as they stand allowed him to realize more was at work than either were aware of on their own, thus freeing Simon from suspicion while simultaneously keeping Athena from falling victim to it.

Honestly I think she knew these things when she made up her mind to pursue it. No one can ignore when they are basically chasing their own downfall and she is no exception.

Other than that, I'm way too biased to offer fair commentary on Athena because I'm utterly smitten by her charms. She's cheerful, intelligent, loves cute things, always puts other people's happiness above her own, and is easily flustered.
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I cannot consider Athena a "Mary Sue" by virtue of her objective in trying to exonerate Simon.

The retrial Aura held only brought out information that would have had to be revealed anyway so even if Athena herself championed it, the facts would have remained the same and would have had to have been discussed in order to prove Simon's innocence (namely the scene Simon found when he opened the door). Therefore Athena would incriminate herself. Having Aura sponsor the trial only made it easier to identify Athena as the killer since now it's Aura's word against the named defendant (and conveniently, a defendant who is also supposed to stand trial for a more recent murder, making it all the more suspicious that she has other skeletons in her closet).

To really be "Ms. Patty Perfect", the scenario that comes about from releasing Simon from his charges should have no negative consequences for her. If she had been by herself in trying to free Simon, I'm almost sure everything would have flipped around on her and wound up getting her convicted in his place. So either she would fail to get Simon off the hook (since Simon wouldn't tolerate her setting herself up to fail and resist all the way down) or she would only succeed in convincing the court that the only party that had any opportunity to do the deed was the little girl standing alone in the room with her mother.

Having a third party examine the evidence, scene, and facts (Phoenix) was the only way to save both of them because he has objectivity that they lack. Simon's unwillingness to let Athena take the fall and Athena's own clouded memories of that day would only get them so far (the conviction of one of them) while Phoenix's ability to just read things purely as they stand allowed him to realize more was at work than either were aware of on their own, thus freeing Simon from suspicion while simultaneously keeping Athena from falling victim to it.


Other than that, I'm way too biased to offer fair commentary on Athena because I'm utterly smitten by her charms. She's cheerful, intelligent, loves cute things, always puts other people's happiness above her own, and is easily flustered.


I'm not as eloquent as others on this thread, so you should consider reading through older posts. However, I will give you my brief thoughts on the matter.

My biggest problem with Athena is actually not her unnecessarily large array of traits that makes her look more schizophrenic than the guy from Fight Club, or the lack of a plausible past. While those things bother me, her role in the game is downright frustrating. Now, before people start telling me that she's a protagonist and that her being a large part of the story is not a big deal or anything strange at all, I'll just say this:

I agree. In theory that is not strange at all.

'Theory' being the key word of course. In theory, her potential was huge, but the execution was sloppy, and her character paid the price. Since the developers were overzealous in convincing us that Athena is the greatest thing since sliced bread, they made her have a large presence throughout the entire game, which came at the cost of not only other newcomers like Simon, but also older characters like Apollo and Trucy, and I'm still of the opinion that Trucy is the character that needs character development the most, at the moment.

So how exactly did Athena get in the way of other characters? The answer is actually fairly simple, and can be split into two parts:
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firstly, since she's omnipresent, we have to experience her character all the time, which of course means that other characters don't have as much time in the spotlight. However, that's not so bad as the second reason, namely the fact that every other plot is tied directly to her. Apollo's friend murdered? She's suspected of killing him. Blackquill refuses to spill the beans? Because he's trying to protect her. Someone in their vicinity dies and only her friend could've done it? Athena to the rescue. Horrible past just like every other assistant? Well she gets Black Psyche-locks because she's special. Bad guy trying to pin the blame on her? Well, I don't have a good reason for that, since the final case is one giant mess and serves only to conveniently (and rather poorly) resolve all plot points - by saving Athena.


Are you seeing a pattern here? Not only do all plots eventually lead to Athena, but she's also an assistant, a witness, a defendant and a narrating protagonist ALL OVER THE COURSE OF ONE GAME! And before you bring up Edgeworth, keep in mind that it took him THREE games to get that many roles. Hell I was almost surprised she didn't also get to prosecute someone. And what I think is the saddest part about this is that I was able to predict all of this (I have no delusions about being the only one), including her backstory and eventual roles, which made her even more boring to me.

That's my biggest problem with her. Of course, it only gets worse once you realize that the previously socially inept, later traumatized 11-year-old with who barely attended school somehow magically wound up in Europe without any adequately explained reason somehow manages to not only skip a bunch of educational stages, but also study psychology and law at the same time, and she's finished when she's around 17-18 years old.

Not only is she now pretty, athletic, knows martial arts, loved by everything and everyone and has a special (unexplained) power and trinket, but also praised as a genius. The power part really gets on my nerve, since she can actually use feelings as proof in a court of law during a time where nobody belives in the judicial system. How this is somehow not a major plot point I'll never understand.

The issue has never been whether or not she's been a Mary Sue, but it's futile to deny that she shares more Sue traits than most characters in the series. Also, it would be ludicrous to call this Phoenix's game; this is Athena's story through and through, and I'm pretty damn disappointed by that.

I apologize for my incoherent post, I've been working all day and it's getting late, you see. Like I said, you should read through older posts, especially ones written by Pierre and Bad Player, since they're better debaters and their posts are actually structured.
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Well I'm someone who didn't want Phoenix in this at all.

For Gyakuten Saiban 6 I'm advocating making Phoenix unplayable save for a DLC case outside the main arc.

Even the writers should have realized that their use of Phoenix didn't amount to much at the end.
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Well I'm someone who didn't want Phoenix in this at all.

For Gyakuten Saiban 6 I'm advocating making Phoenix unplayable save for a DLC case outside the main arc.

Even the writers should have realized that their use of Phoenix didn't amount to much at the end.


Well thank you for that long, elaborate response.

However, I agree with you to a point. Phoenix should've been restricted to one case, maybe the last one, while acting as a mentor to Apollo during the rest of the game.

The game would've been better off without Athena. I know that's not a very popular opinion around here, but considering how they absolutely couldn't handle writing her, I just don't see why she should be in the game in the first place. And she came at the cost of continuity, too.
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Well I'm someone who didn't want Phoenix in this at all.

For Gyakuten Saiban 6 I'm advocating making Phoenix unplayable save for a DLC case outside the main arc.

Even the writers should have realized that their use of Phoenix didn't amount to much at the end.


Well thank you for that long, elaborate response.

However, I agree with you to a point. Phoenix should've been restricted to one case, maybe the last one, while acting as a mentor to Apollo during the rest of the game.

The game would've been better off without Athena. I know that's not a very popular opinion around here, but considering how they absolutely couldn't handle writing her, I just don't see why she should be in the game in the first place. And she came at the cost of continuity, too.

Well ideally I'd liked to have just picked up where Ace Attorney 4 left off. I don't really know why they chose to go in this direction but it is what it is.

Athena being a jack-of-all-trades didn't bother me that much. She's just...diverse. Didn't seem to skew her into being a creator's pet or anything.
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Gyakuten$aiban wrote:
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Well I'm someone who didn't want Phoenix in this at all.

For Gyakuten Saiban 6 I'm advocating making Phoenix unplayable save for a DLC case outside the main arc.

Even the writers should have realized that their use of Phoenix didn't amount to much at the end.


Well thank you for that long, elaborate response.

However, I agree with you to a point. Phoenix should've been restricted to one case, maybe the last one, while acting as a mentor to Apollo during the rest of the game.

The game would've been better off without Athena. I know that's not a very popular opinion around here, but considering how they absolutely couldn't handle writing her, I just don't see why she should be in the game in the first place. And she came at the cost of continuity, too.


Athena being a jack-of-all-trades didn't bother me that much. She's just...diverse. Didn't seem to skew her into being a creator's pet or anything.


Well since you're not actually replying to any of the points I made, I can only assume you're not going to listen to what I have to say to that either, so I suppose this little discussion is over.
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Spoiler: I dunno...it says "spoiler" in the title...whatever
Honestly I think she knew these things when she made up her mind to pursue it. No one can ignore when they are basically chasing their own downfall and she is no exception.

Don't you just love it when fanon ideas directly contradict the evidence? Specifically:
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Aura: Did I forget to mention...? It's not Simon you'll be defending.
Phoenix: What? (Not... Prosecutor Blackquill...?)
Aura: I indict Athena Cykes, on the charge of murdering her own mother!
Aura: You'll be defending the little princess there, the one behind the glass.
Phoenix: (WH-WHAAAT?!)
Aura: See you in that mountain of rubble you've chosen for our courtroom, Mr. Wright!
Pearl: What is she talking about? Athena... ?!
Athena: Of course... Why didn't it ever occur to me before?
Athena: If Prosecutor Blackquill is innocent, somebody else had to have been the true culprit.
Athena: Did I...? Did I... kill my own mother...?
Athena: N-No.......
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

SO MANY GODDAMN ELLIPSES!
To me, this implies that Athena hadn't considered the possibility, and is just realizing it to be possible. Maybe she did consider it in the past, but then forgot about it? I have no idea what to say to that.
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Sligneris wrote:
I believe he meant she was destined to fail, not that she knew that.


Howdy Sligneris, care to head back and reply to my counter-argument a while ago?
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Sligneris wrote:
You mean the stuff about having characters remind themselves about stuff they forgot, but still felt emotions regarding it? I dunno, that's right. I think that is the fact that people do get emotional, but sometimes don't quite remember what caused the emotion.

Most common during arguments, haha ^^


Err no I meant the bigger long length retort that you said you'd come back to in a day.
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Pierre, the way you're always poking at Sligneris is starting to come off as cute. :)

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The game would've been better off without Athena. I know that's not a very popular opinion around here, but considering how they absolutely couldn't handle writing her, I just don't see why she should be in the game in the first place. And she came at the cost of continuity, too.

The series certainly could have continued without her, and it continues with her all the same. It never broke the continuity from GS4 because the plot of GS4 was built as a one-shot itself. It has no relation at all to the original trilogy. (In fact, wasn't this a point that was argued plenty of times before on these very forums?) It wasn't meant to leave plot holes or loose ends, even if it did. Takumi, however, wasn't prepared to extend it in a sequel. I suppose he may have expected Yamazaki to extend it somehow, but the latter went with his own program and copied Takumi's one-shot technique in GS4 almost so thoroughly that it can't be coincidence. And then Eshiro wanted to market it as a "Phoenix Wright" game. However, because it's Capcom, they simply HAD to include a hint to yet another "sequel".

The question now is, is GS6 going to follow up on one or the other, try to tie their loose plots together, or start off on its own story altogether? The last one is the safest marketing option, but it may not be the most popular.

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Athena being a jack-of-all-trades didn't bother me that much. She's just...diverse. Didn't seem to skew her into being a creator's pet or anything.

But she IS the creator's pet. :3 One of the first characters to be promoted, yeah?

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To me, this implies that Athena hadn't considered the possibility, and is just realizing it to be possible. Maybe she did consider it in the past, but then forgot about it? I have no idea what to say to that.

If she did forget it, then it suggests she did so on purpose. In that case, she's the one who's been chasing a dream all this time. This fits well with why she'd go into a breakdown so easily, even against someone like PAYNE. To be fair, I was ready to ditch that room just because of his God-awful attempts at wit.
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Sligneris wrote:
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Err no I meant the bigger long length retort that you said you'd come back to in a day.

Oh, yeah. I addressed most of similar points while answering BP, so I didn't feel the need to repeat myself... ^^;



....but they weren't all the same XP I actually had that article detailing Ms Turnquest's intense mother-driven super education. If you are arguing against two people it doesn't do well to ignore one of them, I spent a good bit of time replying to you.
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I seeee. But what can I say, when I do not actually have a counter-argument, especially to what you said about Ms. Turnaboutquest? xD


That you respectfully disagree and we should agree to disagree. I don't mind if I don't change your mind, I'd just like some closure on a debate you started :P

Literally anything better than just leaving it ignored.
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Thane wrote:
The game would've been better off without Athena. I know that's not a very popular opinion around here, but considering how they absolutely couldn't handle writing her, I just don't see why she should be in the game in the first place. And she came at the cost of continuity, too.

The series certainly could have continued without her, and it continues with her all the same. It never broke the continuity from GS4 because the plot of GS4 was built as a one-shot itself.

Well, AJ had a fair amount of loose ends in it (Polly+Trucy, the Jurist System, etc)... every single one of which is entirely ignored in DD. So while it didn't contradict AJ, it certainly didn't "continue" the story that AJ started.

...Actually, you can sorta interpret the fact that the explanation for black psyche-locks given in DD really doesn't fit with Kristoph at all as "breaking continuity" xP
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Bad Player wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Thane wrote:
The game would've been better off without Athena. I know that's not a very popular opinion around here, but considering how they absolutely couldn't handle writing her, I just don't see why she should be in the game in the first place. And she came at the cost of continuity, too.

The series certainly could have continued without her, and it continues with her all the same. It never broke the continuity from GS4 because the plot of GS4 was built as a one-shot itself.

Well, AJ had a fair amount of loose ends in it (Polly+Trucy, the Jurist System, etc)... every single one of which is entirely ignored in DD. So while it didn't contradict AJ, it certainly didn't "continue" the story that AJ started.

...Actually, you can sorta interpret the fact that the explanation for black psyche-locks given in DD really doesn't fit with Kristoph at all as "breaking continuity" xP

That is the nature of stories meant to be one-shots. I figure the GS5 team skipped over continuing Apollo's story because they weren't sure what to do with him. Takumi just declared his game finished even though it really wasn't, and they went with it. As for the Jurist System, it was also thrown in there as promotional material. It then became Eshiro & co.'s job to take care of that loose end, but apparently they couldn't fit everything they wanted and decided to scrap it for later, claiming "DAoL" is responsible for its absence... without explicitly stating so. ಠ_ಠ

And the black psyche-locks were ambiguous in GS4, no matter how you put it. I wasn't and still am not sure what Takumi wanted them to mean. Certainly, the idea of "unbreakable locks" is enchanting, but it's like he's tossing away his own character. He gave Kristoph a fault that doesn't seem possible to recover from, and we players are expected to hate him for all eternity because he's evil. He's not even confirmed dead yet. I suppose Klavier never really needed a brother; he's much too busy flaunting his golden drill to the ladies.
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