The Soundtrack Translation Thread
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The main purpose of this thread is basically to establish accurate translations of all AA soundtracks. Some had quite a diversity, with some strange variations to them, which in a few cases, as I checked it, were in fact all wrong, due to original translators' mistakes.
So far the project is not yet finished, but I'm going to keep updating the list with the progress of this thread.
GS1
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GS2
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GS3
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GS4
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GS5
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GK
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GK2
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PLvsGS
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Spoiler: Translated
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Sligneris wrote:
9. Revealing the Truth 2001 or Truth Is Revealed 2001 (I don't expect anyone to acknowledge that one, actually... Including myself xD Tell, Announce, Confess and Inform all majorly refer to the person who hides the truth, however the track was almost never used as "confessing" theme, with exception for Ted Tonate. So I decided to change it accordingly, while keeping Rubia's comment regarding grammar structure of the phrase.)
I have mentioned it already in another thread, but grammatically, truth has to be the subject of the sentence, and tsugeru has to be a transitive verb. So "The Truth Reveals" makes more sense grammtically. Whether you'd like a grammatically correct translation, is a different story.
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17. Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Truth at Evening or Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Evening of Truth
Keeping 真宵 as the name makes more sense IMHO.
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19. Naive People (Mistranslation of the century, really. Someone confused おめでたい (meaning naive, innocent; used in the name) with おめでとう (Japanese for "congratulations"). Thanks for GK1, GK2 and GS5 that made me give it some attention
Not a mistranslation per se, as the original meaning of the word is indeed 'happy/good/joyous/etc' (that's why omedetou means congratulations). The word is also used in a sarcastic way (i.e. medatai yatsu), so it depends on the context whether you want to go for naive/simple/carefree, or happy. Considering the atmosphere of the song, I would choose a translation somewhere in between the two meanings though, as naive sounds a bit too harsh IMHO.
Edit: wait, tsugu isn't a transitive word either. Heh.
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Ash wrote:
Keeping 真宵 as the name makes more sense IMHO.
...Name? The most common translation of the track is "True Evening of the Grief", which makes even less sense...
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Sligneris wrote:
Ash wrote:
Keeping 真宵 as the name makes more sense IMHO.
...Name? The most common translation of the track is "True Evening of the Grief", which makes even less sense...
Mayoi = Maya.
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I don't know if we should treat that just like "Kokone" pun and ignore it, or replace it...
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First, you mispelled "Reminiscence" a couple times (in "The DL-6 Incident" and "True Pain").
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17. 追憶 ~傷心の真宵
17. Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Truth at Evening or Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Evening of Truth
17. Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Truth at Evening or Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Evening of Truth
"真宵" is Maya's Japanese name. "傷心の真宵" means "heartbroken Maya".
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21. ゴージャス!
21. Gorgeous!
21. Gorgeous!
This is Max's catchphrase. "Gorgeous!" is a correct translation, but if you're going for a localization, it should be "Fabulous!".
Don't know why you don't have the Japanese name of GS2 track 35; it's "検事のつぶやき ～再会を期して".
Note: in Gyakuten Saiban Jiten, there is an extra track between the last 2 songs of GS2's OST, named "空港のふたり" (it's the music of the scene at the airport). But it's not in the OST for some reason, so it probably doesn't matter to you.
There are some weird things in GS3's names.
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10. 美柳ちなみ 〜遠い面影
10. Dahlia Hawthorne ~ Distant Traces of Beauty
10. Dahlia Hawthorne ~ Distant Traces of Beauty
Where does the "of beauty" come from?
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21. 吐麗美庵
21. Trés Bien or Trés Bien ~ Beauty Hermitage
21. Trés Bien or Trés Bien ~ Beauty Hermitage
Not sure why you'd want to translate the name literally...
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22. 五十嵐将兵 〜せつなき哉、軍歌のしらべよ
22. Victor Kudo ~ A Painful Declaration, and War Song
22. Victor Kudo ~ A Painful Declaration, and War Song
I don't think "a painful declaration" is correct, though I'm not sure of the correct translation...
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I have mentioned it already in another thread, but grammatically, truth has to be the subject of the sentence, and tsugeru has to be a transitive verb (the intransitive form of the verb (=>'is revealed/informed/told' etc.) is tsugu). So "The Truth Reveals" makes more sense grammtically. Whether you'd like a grammatically correct translation, is a different story.
Why does "truth" have to be the subject, exactly? "Tell the truth" seems a correct translation to me...
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Sligneris wrote:
10. Dahlia Hawthorne ~ Distant Traces of Beauty
Omokage is 'just' an image/vision, so has nothing to do with beauty....?
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22. Victor Kudo ~ A Painful Declaration, and War Song
More something like 'how sad, the melody of this war song'. 哉 is old Japanese and used in exclamations (oh!/how!/etc).
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26. Reminiscence ~ Scenery Seen from Dusky Bridge
'Scenery of Dusky Bridge' or something like that (-> dusky bridge is the object of the verb, not the subject, so very literally a scenery where you can see Dusky Bridge).
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Why does "truth" have to be the subject, exactly? "Tell the truth" seems a correct translation to me...
Because of the basics of Japanese grammar? 告げる is a 他動詞 and 真実は is the 主語 of the sentence, so it has to be the thing that tells.
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Jozerick wrote:
First, you mispelled "Reminiscence" a couple times (in "The DL-6 Incident" and "True Pain").
Fixed.
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17. 追憶 ~傷心の真宵
17. Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Truth at Evening or Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Evening of Truth
17. Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Truth at Evening or Reminiscence ~ Heartbreaking Evening of Truth
"真宵" is Maya's Japanese name. "傷心の真宵" means "heartbroken Maya".
Added this as an alternative already ;)
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21. ゴージャス!
21. Gorgeous!
21. Gorgeous!
This is Max's catchphrase. "Gorgeous!" is a correct translation, but if you're going for a localization, it should be "Fabulous!".
Done.
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Don't know why you don't have the Japanese name of GS2 track 35; it's "検事のつぶやき ～再会を期して".
I'll put it up. It wasn't in the GS1+GS2 tracklist, so I didn't have that there before.
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There are some weird things in GS3's names.
Before I begin, thanks for pointing all that out! These are the tracks I didn't actually check with dictionary.
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10. 美柳ちなみ 〜遠い面影
10. Dahlia Hawthorne ~ Distant Traces of Beauty
10. Dahlia Hawthorne ~ Distant Traces of Beauty
Where does the "of beauty" come from?
As I checked, 面影 can also mean "face" or "looks", so I think it'll fit there in order to leave the reference to here apperance there?
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21. 吐麗美庵
21. Trés Bien or Trés Bien ~ Beauty Hermitage
21. Trés Bien or Trés Bien ~ Beauty Hermitage
Not sure why you'd want to translate the name literally...
That name was born when I saw this track named "Beauty Hermitage", so I just added it to "Trés Bien". Removed it now.
Thank you for your input! ^^
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26. Reminiscence ~ Scenery Seen from Dusky Bridge
'Scenery of Dusky Bridge' or something like that (-> dusky bridge is the object of the verb, not the subject, so very literally a scenery where you can see Dusky Bridge).
Weird. おぼろ橋の見える風景... If we take the Dusky Bridge out, we're left with two words... 見える... Which is "to see", if I'm not mistaken? And 風景, which means scenery.
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Ash wrote:
Because of the basics of Japanese grammar? 告げる is a 他動詞 and 真実は is the 主語 of the sentence, so it has to be the thing that tells.
I still don't see why it has to be the subject; 告げる is a transitive verb which means it can have an object...
Oh well, I guess it's not worth arguing about.
On the subject of track names, in GK1, Shi-Long Lang theme's "狼士龍 ～狼子、曰く！" is usually translated as "Speak up, Pup!". But it actually means "Lang Zi says".
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Jozerick wrote:
I still don't see why it has to be the subject; 告げる is a transitive verb which means it can have an object...
Oh well, I guess it's not worth arguing about.
Oh well, I guess it's not worth arguing about.
It can have an object, but considering that は is a topic marker and there are no other objects in the title, 真実 has to be the subject, not the object. Had the title been something like 真実は告げるもの, sure, you could make a case for は to mark an object, but as it is now, 真実 is the subject of the verb, not the object. (Another easy way is to just replace 真実 with a different word. Grammatically, タイホくんは告げる is the exact same sentence, but would anyone translate it as 'Talk about the Blue Badger' or something like that?)
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As I checked, 面影 can also mean "face" or "looks", so I think it'll fit there in order to leave the reference to here apperance there?
Appearance yes, but it has nothing to do with beauty.
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That name was born when I saw this track named "Beauty Hermitage", so I just added "Trés Bien" at the end. Removed it now.
Note that the first character is actually 'to throw up'. The Beautiful Throwing-Up Hermitage! (that's why it's a horrible name for a restaurant!).
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Weird. おぼろ橋の見える風景... If we take the Dusky Bridge out, we're left with two words... 見える... Which is "to see", if I'm not mistaken? And 風景, which means scenery.
見える is to be visible, not to see. の is here the subject marker of the subordinate clause (の is here the same as が.). So it's a scenery, with the subordinate clause of 'where Dusky Bridge is visible'.
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Ash wrote:
Sligneris wrote:
As I checked, 面影 can also mean "face" or "looks", so I think it'll fit there in order to leave the reference to here apperance there?
Appearance yes, but it has nothing to do with beauty.
Any fitting synonyms, then?
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That name was born when I saw this track named "Beauty Hermitage", so I just added "Trés Bien" at the end. Removed it now.
Note that the first character is actually 'to throw up'. The Beautiful Throwing-Up Hermitage! (that's why it's a horrible name for a restaurant!).
Hahaha, whoa xD
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Weird. おぼろ橋の見える風景... If we take the Dusky Bridge out, we're left with two words... 見える... Which is "to see", if I'm not mistaken? And 風景, which means scenery.
見える is to be visible, not to see. の is here the subject marker of the subordinate clause (の is here the same as が.). So it's a scenery, with the subordinate clause of 'where Dusky Bridge is visible'.
"The Scenery of Dusky Brigde", then? Or "The Scenery as Seen from the Dusky Brigde"
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Ash wrote:
Jozerick wrote:
I still don't see why it has to be the subject; 告げる is a transitive verb which means it can have an object...
Oh well, I guess it's not worth arguing about.
Oh well, I guess it's not worth arguing about.
It can have an object, but considering that は is a topic marker and there are no other objects in the title, 真実 has to be the subject, not the object. Had the title been something like 真実は告げるもの, sure, you could make a case for は to mark an object, but as it is now, 真実 is the subject of the verb, not the object. (Another easy way is to just replace 真実 with a different word. Grammatically, タイホくんは告げる is the exact same sentence, but would anyone translate it as 'Talk about the Blue Badger' or something like that?)
I always found it as an incomplete title that intended "truth" to be personified. It's what comes along when some sort of truth is revealed, and it in turn reveals something else. Granted, personifying a non-descriptive noun such as "truth" isn't grammatically or semantically correct, but that's beside the point.
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22. 五十嵐将兵 〜せつなき哉、軍歌のしらべよ
After searching around a bit, I think this "せつなき" can be written as 切泣き, as if to show his earnest weeping for this melody.
Either that, or it's actually 切な気, to show a pure, passionate spirit of the song. I think this one actually works better. It's not an especially sad tune, after all.
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I also decided to go with Ash's advice and rename "Naive People" and "More Naive People" to "Blissful People" and "More Blissful People". It has a little hint to its previous meaning as the first thing that comes to mind upon hearing that word is phrase "blissful ignorance" (at least to me) and would be leaning more towards that "happy" meaning.
Added AJ and DD, by the way. Not many changes there, but still worth some attention.
Also, there are some remaining tracks we need to decide on:
- Should we limit ourselves to the literal translation of the Psyche Lock theme, or do you think that this "Lock on the Heart" is a nice touch?
- Should we try to make title referencing words "evening" and "true", or just go with "Heartbroken Maya"
- "Revealing the Truth"? "Truth is Revealed"? "Announce the Truth"? Which one we should go with? I myself would like to go with "Revealing the Truth", as it places the focus more on the lawyer revealing the truth, rather than forcing a witness to do so... But I don't want this to be my decision alone.
- Should we keep character names on ringtones, where names are used, or should we go with song names?
- Picking the right name Dahlia's and Victor Kudo's themes, as well as Dusky Bridge Reminiscence theme.
- ...and all the remaining "or"s
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Sligneris wrote:
...would "せつな" be relevant here? Cause I don't know how to fit any "moments" or "instants" in that title...
No, that doesn't make sense. I've suggested a more fitting interpretation above.
As for those song titles that seem to have a double meaning in Japanese that can't be directly translated to English, I suggest keeping one and leaving the other out. It'd be too crowded for a song title if the entire thing needs a footnote.
Song titles should be more convenient to read/say, so translating some of them literally could come off as awkward. Nonetheless, I think "The Truth Reveals" is pretty catchy by itself.
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Hahah, just kidding :D Hm... Distant Traces of Beauty kinda still fits right with me... However, I am not sure how to get closer with this "beauty" to "appearance"... Do you think it can be left like that and still not be too much forced in? "Distant Traces" feels like there's something actually missing here ^^;
The Truth Reveals, hm? Very literally translated and some people reading that can automatically imagine adding "itself" to the title, which would reference the in-game quotes... Hmm... I'm starting to like it, actually.
So... The Victor Kudo's theme ultimately would be...? What exactly ^^;
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So I'm all for a better translation effort from the community!)With regards to the Psycho-Lock thing: the title is just 心理錠 (サイコ・ロック), so while the kanji translate to "locks/chains of the heart", the (サイコ・ロック) makes me think it's supposed to be read as "Psycho Lock". I opted for the more dramatic "Chains of the Heart" with my translations of DD's tracklist, but that may have been overzealous on my part.
Also, one thing to keep in mind with regards to the court themes (including 真実は告げる) - they're present in PLvsAA's sound test, which means come March we'll actually have official translations for them! That said, 真実は告げる really does have to be read as "The Truth Reveals" or "The Truth Will Tell" or something like that, like Ash has said - we've all just gotten super-used to "Announce/Confess/Inform the Truth".
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Bolt Storm wrote:
I recently found out that a bit of overzealous editing by me on the AA wiki around the time of GK2 apparently caused something of a minor firestorm.
.......It's not like I know anything about it, why would you even think that...
You mean the one from today or some other firestorm? =..=;
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With regards to the Psycho-Lock thing: the title is just 心理錠 (サイコ・ロック), so while the kanji translate to "locks/chains of the heart", the (サイコ・ロック) makes me think it's supposed to be read as "Psycho Lock". I opted for the more dramatic "Chains of the Heart" with my translations of DD's tracklist, but that may have been overzealous on my part.
Don't know about this, but ever since I saw "Lock on the Heart" on one of the translations earlier, I really got fond of it. The biggest dilemma on this one here is what we should go for - lock, chains or none at all. In my opinion "Psycho Lock" itself was a little bit too short and... boring?
Bolt Storm wrote:
Also, one thing to keep in mind with regards to the court themes (including 真実は告げる) - they're present in PLvsAA's sound test, which means come March we'll actually have official translations for them! That said, 真実は告げる really does have to be read as "The Truth Reveals" or "The Truth Will Tell" or something like that, like Ash has said - we've all just gotten super-used to "Announce/Confess/Inform the Truth".
Hmm. That's why I don't think we're going to call the translation complete until PLvsAA is released. I do hope they keep "Cornered", though... I'm not sure if something else is going to fit all that well with GS4 and GS5 track names ^^;
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After searching around a bit, I think this "せつなき" can be written as 切泣き, as if to show his earnest weeping for this melody.
Either that, or it's actually 切な気, to show a pure, passionate spirit of the song. I think this one actually works better. It's not an especially sad tune, after all.
Either that, or it's actually 切な気, to show a pure, passionate spirit of the song. I think this one actually works better. It's not an especially sad tune, after all.
It's 'simply' 切ない (sadness), in the classic 連体形 form (せつなき) + 哉 (emphatic cry). So it would translate to something like "Alas, the melody of this war song!".
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10. Perceive ~ Surging Eyes
Stylistic choice. 'Surge, eyes' (imperative) is more literal and might convey the 'okay, I have to get to work now' feeling a bit better?
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11. Pursuit ~ Cornering Obligation
'Must/need to corner/press on' would sound better than obligation...?
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22. Reminiscence ~ A Hurt Fox
Stylistic choice. The original Japanese puts emphasis on the fact of multiple foxes (even though it's not needed in Japanese), so it might be better to do the same here?
[quote[25. Reminiscence ~ Fate Covered by Tricks and Gadgets (I have trouble with "Tricks and Gagdets" part, タネとシカケ. The first two signs are especially confusing.)
Tane means seed, and has since then evolved to words like 'idea', 'a trick' (i.e. the beginning of something) (ideas for books, magic trick, etc) . A variation of the word (ne-ta) is also used very often. I think the variation was first used in the news world, but it's a common word nowadays.
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18. Encouraged! Amazing Nine-Tails
'Go forth' would be better. It's the imperative form of the word 進む here, not the noun 薦め (which is encouragement/recommendation/etc).
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32. "Athena will take on your defense!" (What is it with "、" after "ココネ"? Is that like our ","? But then it makes something like "Athena, will take on your defense"...? Uh, what.)
Literally, it would be "I, Athena, will take on your defense", but that sounds a bit long...
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Ash wrote:
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After searching around a bit, I think this "せつなき" can be written as 切泣き, as if to show his earnest weeping for this melody.
Either that, or it's actually 切な気, to show a pure, passionate spirit of the song. I think this one actually works better. It's not an especially sad tune, after all.
Either that, or it's actually 切な気, to show a pure, passionate spirit of the song. I think this one actually works better. It's not an especially sad tune, after all.
It's 'simply' 切ない (sadness), in the classic 連体形 form (せつなき) + 哉 (emphatic cry). So it would translate to something like "Alas, the melody of this war song!".
I like it this way, actually. "Alas, The Melody of War!"
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Sligneris wrote:
Also, there are some remaining tracks we need to decide on:
- Should we limit ourselves to the literal translation of the Psyche Lock theme, or do you think that this "Lock on the Heart" is a nice touch?
- Should we try to make title referencing words "evening" and "true", or just go with "Heartbroken Maya"
- "Revealing the Truth"? "Truth is Revealed"? "Announce the Truth"? Which one we should go with? I myself would like to go with "Revealing the Truth", as it places the focus more on the lawyer revealing the truth, rather than forcing a witness to do so... But I don't want this to be my decision alone.
- Should we keep character names on ringtones, where names are used, or should we go with song names?
- Picking the right name Dahlia's and Victor Kudo's themes, as well as Dusky Bridge Reminiscence theme.
- ...and all the remaining "or"s
1) I would personally just keep "Psyche Locks" alone.
2) "Heartbroken Maya". I see no reason to translate Maya's name literally.
4) For the ringtones, I would keep the characters names since that's how they are in Japanese... but you could do something like "Ringtone - Phoenix Wright (The Steel Samurai)". By the way, why use "-" instead of "/"?
For GS4 and GS5, in addition to what Ash said:
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26. ラミロア ~音の風景画家
26. Lamiroir ~ The Landscape Painter of Sound
26. Lamiroir ~ The Landscape Painter of Sound
The in-game translation is "landscape painter in sound".
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22. 番轟三 ~合言葉はジャスティス!
22. Bobby Fulbright ~ The Secret Word is Justice!
22. Bobby Fulbright ~ The Secret Word is Justice!
I'm not sure, but I'm wondering if "in justice we trust" would be a better localization.
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15. Detention Center ~ Jailer's Elegy
17. Detention Center ~ The Elegy of Surveillance Cameras
16. Detention Center ~ Elegy of the Detained
24. Detention Center ~ Elegy of the Bulletproof Glass
17. Detention Center ~ The Elegy of Surveillance Cameras
16. Detention Center ~ Elegy of the Detained
24. Detention Center ~ Elegy of the Bulletproof Glass
Shouldn't these be consistent? Like "Elegy of the Jailers" instead of "Jailer's Elegy" and "Elegy of the Surveillance Cameras" instead of "The Elegy of Surveillance Cameras". (By the way, "Jailers" is specifically plural)
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41. 希月心音 ~法廷の革命児
41. Athena Cykes ~ Courtroom's Revolution
41. Athena Cykes ~ Courtroom's Revolution
"革命児" means a person who causes/leads a revolution, so Courtroom Revolutionist/Revolutionary/Révolutionnaire is better.
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13. 『守るべきもののために』
13. "For Those I Will Protect"
13. "For Those I Will Protect"
"Should Protect" or "Must Protect" is more accurate I think.
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20. 『逆転の大海賊』
20. "Turnabout Great Pirates"
20. "Turnabout Great Pirates"
Isn't it called "Turnabout Reclaimed" in English?
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21. 荒船水族館 ~涼やかな海
21. Shipley Aquarium ~ A Refreshing Sea
21. Shipley Aquarium ~ A Refreshing Sea
It's "Shipshape Aquarium".
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23. 『海賊ショーの歌』 ~冒険の海はココネ!
23. "Pirate Show Song" ~ The Sea of Adventure is Here!
23. "Pirate Show Song" ~ The Sea of Adventure is Here!
The pirate show song is called "Swashbuckler Spectacular Song".
And doesn't "ココネ" refers to Athena rather than "here"?
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Ash wrote:
It's 'simply' 切ない (sadness), in the classic 連体形 form (せつなき) + 哉 (emphatic cry). So it would translate to something like "Alas, the melody of this war song!".
I wanted to include this "sadness" in it, so I went with your earlier suggestion - "How Sad, the Melody of this War Song"
Ash wrote:
Stylistic choice. 'Surge, eyes' (imperative) is more literal and might convey the 'okay, I have to get to work now' feeling a bit better?
Hmm... Alright, changed it.
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'Must/need to corner/press on' would sound better than obligation...?
Oowww, I thought it was a nice variation that would still somehow focus on "necessity". But I suppose it's right... we could choose something along the lines "Need to Corner" or "Must Be Cornered", but it really sounds to me like something's missing...
Ash wrote:
Stylistic choice. The original Japanese puts emphasis on the fact of multiple foxes (even though it's not needed in Japanese), so it might be better to do the same here?
"Reminiscence ~ The Hurt Foxes", then?
Ash wrote:
Tane means seed, and has since then evolved to words like 'idea', 'a trick' (i.e. the beginning of something) (ideas for books, magic trick, etc) . A variation of the word (ne-ta) is also used very often. I think the variation was first used in the news world, but it's a common word nowadays.
"Fate Covered by Tricks and Gimmicks" would work?
Ash wrote:
'Go forth' would be better. It's the imperative form of the word 進む here, not the noun 薦め (which is encouragement/recommendation/etc).
Alright, I'll change it back to "Go Forth!"
Ash wrote:
Literally, it would be "I, Athena, will take on your defense", but that sounds a bit long...
Uh, I see... Too long, is it? To me it sounds fine... There is no problem if I change it, right?
Jozerick wrote:
1) I would personally just keep "Psyche Locks" alone.
2) "Heartbroken Maya". I see no reason to translate Maya's name literally.
4) For the ringtones, I would keep the characters names since that's how they are in Japanese... but you could do something like "Ringtone - Phoenix Wright (The Steel Samurai)". By the way, why use "-" instead of "/"?
2) "Heartbroken Maya". I see no reason to translate Maya's name literally.
4) For the ringtones, I would keep the characters names since that's how they are in Japanese... but you could do something like "Ringtone - Phoenix Wright (The Steel Samurai)". By the way, why use "-" instead of "/"?
1. okay
2. Hmm... It's just that a lot of people know that track as "True Evening of Grief" and in this particular case, I thought of maybe giving it a hint, but also make the phrase make more sense? Not to mention that literal translation would be something like "Mayoi of Grief". However, I wonder if "Maya's Grief" wouldn't also work well.
3. There is no 3rd point.
4. Okay, I did what you suggested. ;) Removed the song name completely in Godot's Ringtone though, considering we have no in-universe title at all... And I don't anymore.
Jozerick wrote:
The in-game translation is "landscape painter in sound".
I forgot she was referred to as such, actually. Fixed.
Jozerick wrote:
Shouldn't these be consistent? Like "Elegy of the Jailers" instead of "Jailer's Elegy" and "Elegy of the Surveillance Cameras" instead of "The Elegy of Surveillance Cameras". (By the way, "Jailers" is specifically plural)
They should. Moved the "the" in GS2's theme. Renamed GS1's theme to "Elegy of the Jailed"
Jozerick wrote:
"革命児" means a person who causes/leads a revolution, so Courtroom Revolutionist/Revolutionary/Révolutionnaire is better.
Went with "Courtroom Révolutionnaire". Wasn't it her title in one of the trailers, anyway?
Jozerick wrote:
"Should Protect" or "Must Protect" is more accurate I think.
Hm, at this moment replaced it with "Should", but I still consider changing it to "Must"
Jozerick wrote:
Isn't it called "Turnabout Reclaimed" in English?
There is inconsistency between the titles in Japanese as well. In Japanese, the chapter is titled something among the lines of "Turnabout Return" if I recall correctly...? I feel as if the cutscene track refers more to the song/show itself rather than the game chapter.
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Sligneris wrote:
Should we limit ourselves to the literal translation of the Psyche Lock theme, or do you think that this "Lock on the Heart" is a nice touch?Should we try to make title referencing words "evening" and "true", or just go with "Heartbroken Maya"- "Revealing the Truth"? "Truth is Revealed"? "Announce the Truth"? Which one we should go with? I myself would like to go with "Revealing the Truth", as it places the focus more on the lawyer revealing the truth, rather than forcing a witness to do so... But I don't want this to be my decision alone.
Should we keep character names on ringtones, where names are used, or should we go with song names?- Picking the right name Dahlia's and Victor Kudo's themes, as well as Dusky Bridge Reminiscence theme.
- ...and all the remaining "or"s
Soo... Can we assume we're done with "Maya's Grief" and Dusky Bridge, Dahlia and Victor's themes? Dahlia's theme... I tried to find better fitting word for "Beauty", but... "Distant Traces of Appearance"? Noo, it sounds terrible...
Are there any remaining objections to the tracklists? Also, what do you propose to do with GS4's Pursuit theme?
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Sligneris wrote:
2. Hmm... It's just that a lot of people know that track as "True Evening of Grief" and in this particular case, I thought of maybe giving it a hint, but also make the phrase make more sense? Not to mention that literal translation would be something like "Mayoi of Grief". However, I wonder if "Maya's Grief" wouldn't also work well.
Actually it doesn't mean "Mayoi of Grief". "傷心の" is like an adjective. Look here. "傷心の" means broken-hearted/heart-broken/down-hearted.
Sligneris wrote:
They should. Moved the "the" in GS2's theme. Renamed GS1's theme to "Elegy of the Jailed"
It's "jailers", not "jailed".
Sligneris wrote:
There is inconsistency between the titles in Japanese as well. In Japanese, the chapter is titled something among the lines of "Turnabout Return" if I recall correctly...? I feel as if the cutscene track refers more to the song/show itself rather than the game chapter.
You're right, it is called "Turnabout Return". I had no idea.
Sligneris wrote:
Soo... Can we assume we're done with "Maya's Grief" and Dusky Bridge, Dahlia and Victor's themes? Dahlia's theme... I tried to find better fitting word for "Beauty", but... "Distant Traces of Appearance"? Noo, it sounds terrible...
Are there any remaining objections to the tracklists? Also, what do you propose to do with GS4's Pursuit theme?
Are there any remaining objections to the tracklists? Also, what do you propose to do with GS4's Pursuit theme?
I don't think "The Scenery as Seen from the Dusky Brigde" is correct (you misspelled Bridge by the way). It's the bridge that's seen, not the scenery... I think it's better not to include the "seen" and go with something like "Scenery of Dusky Bridge".
I'm okay with Victor's theme, but for Dahlia, it seems incorrect. It could be something like "distant face", "distant image", "distant shadow", but the "of beauty" shouldn't be there.
For GS4's Pursuit, I would say "Must Corner".
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Jozerick wrote:
Actually it doesn't mean "Mayoi of Grief". "傷心の" is like an adjective. Look here. "傷心の" means broken-hearted/heart-broken/down-hearted.
Oh, I guess it's just my week knowledge of Japanese and "の" that confused me. Jozerick wrote:
It's "jailers", not "jailed".
Hmm... So there is a significant difference, right? "Jailed" might refer to both one person as well as multiple persons, so I though it would fit well... Especially taking GS3's Detention Center theme into consideration.
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I don't think "The Scenery as Seen from the Dusky Brigde" is correct (you misspelled Bridge by the way). It's the bridge that's seen, not the scenery... I think it's better not to include the "seen" and go with something like "Scenery of Dusky Bridge".
I'm okay with Victor's theme, but for Dahlia, it seems incorrect. It could be something like "distant face", "distant image", "distant shadow", but the "of beauty" shouldn't be there.
For GS4's Pursuit, I would say "Must Corner".
I'm okay with Victor's theme, but for Dahlia, it seems incorrect. It could be something like "distant face", "distant image", "distant shadow", but the "of beauty" shouldn't be there.
For GS4's Pursuit, I would say "Must Corner".
...Sorry for such an obvious mistake. Right, "The Scenery of Dusky Bridge" should work.
"Distant Image" fits well. For Dahlia "Distant Shadow" would fit, but I decided to keep in mind that it's also used as Iris's theme.
Also, changing to "Must Corner".
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Sligneris wrote:
Jozerick wrote:
It's "jailers", not "jailed".
Hmm... So there is a significant difference, right? "Jailed" might refer to both one person as well as multiple persons, so I though it would fit well... Especially taking GS3's Detention Center theme into consideration.
Yes, there's a significant difference. "The jailed" (like "the detained") means the people imprisoned in the detention center. "Jailers" are the guards working in the detention center.
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Should we go with "Elegy of the Jailers" or "Elegy of the Guards"? Or maybe "Elegy of the Security Guards", making a slight connection between GS1's and GS2's themes?
Especially considering the fact that Detention Center is not really "jail"...
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It's time like this I regret it wasn't translated as "Ace Prosecutor". Some of these were a little bit... tricky, so I would really appreciate some criticism and possible confirmation. ^^
Before I start putting in the translations for GK2, I have a question - should I use names from the translation patch, like "Prosecutor's Path" instead of "Gyakuten Kenji 2", or should we keep romanized version of original names?
I would also like some confirmation on the grammar of Quercus Alba's theme, Cohdophian Embassies theme and Godot's Reminiscence theme.
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Sligneris wrote:
Should we go with "Elegy of the Jailers" or "Elegy of the Guards"? Or maybe "Elegy of the Security Guards", making a slight connection between GS1's and GS2's themes?
Especially considering the fact that Detention Center is not really "jail"...
Especially considering the fact that Detention Center is not really "jail"...
Now that you mention it... I checked the scripts, and "看守" is always translated as "guard", or sometimes "security guard". So I guess "jailers" isn't really correct...
Sligneris wrote:
Before I start putting in the translations for GK2, I have a question - should I use names from the translation patch, like "Prosecutor's Path" instead of "Gyakuten Kenji 2", or should we keep romanized version of original names?
Personally I'm not familiar with the fan translation, so I would rather use the Japanese names when no official localization is available. But maybe others will disagree.
I've just noticed for GS3 you wrote "Cross-Examination ~ Moderate" while you used "Moderato" for the other games. It's not incorrect, but it should be consistent.
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12. ジングル 〜あんな日々には戻れない
12. Jingle ~ Can't Go Back to a Regular Life
12. Jingle ~ Can't Go Back to a Regular Life
I don't think "あんな日々" means "regular life". Tough I'd like another opinion on this.
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4. 捜査 ～現場のムジュン
14. 追求 ～つきつめたくて
14. 追求 ～つきつめたくて
That's strange. May I ask where you got the song titles from? On vgmdb, these tracks are called "推理 ～現場のムジュン" and "追究 ～つきつめたくて".
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(I couldn't translate ギゾク with anything. Does it mean "Great Thief"?)
It means chivalrous thief/robber.
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(Please confirm. Dictionaries didn't find anything, so I used Google's translation... Which is exactly why I need confirmation.)
According to weblio, ゆかいな means pleasant/amusing/merry/delightful/cheerful/happy. So that's correct.
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14. 糸鋸圭介 ～やるときはやるッス
14. Dick Gumshoe ~ I can do it when it counts, pal! (??? I really don't know. I couldn't translate that.)
14. Dick Gumshoe ~ I can do it when it counts, pal! (??? I really don't know. I couldn't translate that.)
Literally, it means something like "when I do, I do". It's apparently an expression that means: to do something seriously/with effort when it's important. So I'd say the translation here is correct.
Sligneris wrote:
I would also like some confirmation on the grammar of Quercus Alba's theme, Cohdophian Embassies theme and Godot's Reminiscence theme.
I don't see a problem with those. If you want a more literal translation, Alba's theme would be "The Enemy Who Surpasses the Law" and Godot's Reminiscence something like "Feeling The Bitter Taste of Truth". But that's not a big difference.
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I allowed myself to translate Yumihiko's nickname, as it's pretty straightforward. Included a pun, even. ;) "No. 1", referring to how much of a genius he is which might also be read as "No. One", referring to how he's actually not :D Might remove it if asked, though.
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Now that you mention it... I checked the scripts, and "看守" is always translated as "guard", or sometimes "security guard". So I guess "jailers" isn't really correct...
"Elegy of the Security Guards", then.
Jozerick wrote:
I've just noticed for GS3 you wrote "Cross-Examination ~ Moderate" while you used "Moderato" for the other games. It's not incorrect, but it should be consistent.
That was just an oversight on my part. Fixed
Jozerick wrote:
I don't think "あんな日々" means "regular life". Tough I'd like another opinion on this.
"日々" means, "daily", "every day", so I suppose it would be something more like "everyday life" if anything, but "あんな" means "sort of", such", so maybe something among the lines of "Can't Return to Days Like Those"?
Jozerick wrote:
That's strange. May I ask where you got the song titles from? On vgmdb, these tracks are called "推理 ～現場のムジュン" and "追究 ～つきつめたくて".
Got these names from here. ...It's gonna be bad if now it's Japanese titles that are inconsistent.
Edit: Now that's weird... You're actually right. Pursuit theme is "追究" in GK2 too. However, both AA and AAI versions are romanized as "tsuikyū", so I suppose we should keep it the same in the translation. That changes "Contradiction at the Crime Scene" track, though. "Investigation" prefix becomes "Deduction". Thank you for help, and sorry for my initial reaction.
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Literally, it means something like "when I do, I do". It's apparently an expression that means: to do something seriously/with effort when it's important. So I'd say the translation here is correct.
Huh... Okay, I suppose it's correct translation. However, I'm not sure what to do with that one. Technically, we should capitalize every first letter, but so far that one was treated like an exception, similarly to Athena's theme... And it doesn't look all that well, with every letter capitalized... Hmm...
Jozerick wrote:
It means chivalrous thief/robber.
How was Yatagarasu referred to in-game again...? "Noble Thief"? I'll change that, then.
I was also wondering on renaming Cohdopian Reminiscence theme to "The Countries Torn Apart" to mirror the regular one, but this time it's English grammar I'm not sure about...
Thanks for all the confirmations, by the way! ^^
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Sligneris wrote:
Edit: Now that's weird... You're actually right. Pursuit theme is "追究" in GK2 too. However, both AA and AAI versions are romanized as "tsuikyū", so I suppose we should keep it the same in the translation.
They may be pronounced the same, but they are different words though. The main series' 追求 is to pursue/follow/look for something (i.e. to get a hold on something), while AAI's 追究 is about finding things out, clearing things up. The meanings are close, but they are definitely used as seperate words with distinct differences.
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23. "Swashbuckler Spectacular Song" ~ Athena's Sea of Adventure is Here!
Renaming, so that both the proper meaning and Athena's name are in here... I hope there are no problems with that one? ^^;
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They may be pronounced the same, but they are different words though. The main series' 追求 is to pursue/follow/look for something (i.e. to get a hold on something), while AAI's 追究 is about finding things out, clearing things up. The meanings are close, but they are definitely used as seperate words with distinct differences.
...Both could be translated as "Investigation" (into something), but that would be too easily confused with, err, well... "Investigation" themes. I thought about keeping both meanings by a synonymous words of sorts...
"Search", maybe? ...Ugh, that too is too easily confused with "Investigation" themes.
Any ideas?
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Sligneris wrote:
I allowed myself to translate Yumihiko's nickname, as it's pretty straightforward. Included a pun, even. ;) "No. 1", referring to how much of a genius he is which might also be read as "No. One", referring to how he's actually not :D Might remove it if asked, though.
I think it should be translated anyway. イチリュウ is a noun, not a name. (I think it's used as an adjective here, so "イチリュウの推理" may mean "first-class reasoning").
Sligneris wrote:
"日々" means, "daily", "every day", so I suppose it would be something more like "everyday life" if anything, but "あんな" means "sort of", such", so maybe something among the lines of "Can't Return to Days Like Those"?
Yes that sounds right.
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Huh... Okay, I suppose it's correct translation. However, I'm not sure what to do with that one. Technically, we should capitalize every first letter, but so far that one was treated like an exception, similarly to Athena's theme... And it doesn't look all that well, with every letter capitalized... Hmm...
I don't know why it should be an exception though. I understand for Athena's theme since that's how it was written in Japanese, but here I don't see a problem with "I Can Do It When It Counts, Pal!".
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How was Yatagarasu referred to in-game again...? "Noble Thief"? I'll change that, then.
Let's see... there's no consistent translation. Noble, noble thief, vigilante, noble vigilante, modern Robin Hood...
"Noble thief" sounds right.
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18. Stange People
A "r" is missing.
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22. 鳳院坊了賢 ～暗殺の音色
22. Ryōken Hōinbō ~ The Tone of an Assassin
22. Ryōken Hōinbō ~ The Tone of an Assassin
Technically it's assassination, not assassin.
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11. 追憶 ～記憶喪失の少女
11. Reminiscence ~ The Girl's Lost Memories
11. Reminiscence ~ The Girl's Lost Memories
Technically it's more like "the amnesiac girl".
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Jozerick wrote:
I think it should be translated anyway. イチリュウ is a noun, not a name. (I think it's used as an adjective here, so "イチリュウの推理" may mean "first-class reasoning").
...Then it's both nickname and adjective, apparently, hm? I'll keep the Japanese nickname in parenthesis, but replace the one I made.
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I don't know why it should be an exception though. I understand for Athena's theme since that's how it was written in Japanese, but here I don't see a problem with "I Can Do It When It Counts, Pal!".
Alright, changed.
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A "r" is missing.
... *sinks down in shame* Sorry...
Jozerick wrote:
Technically it's assassination, not assassin.
Done
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Technically it's more like "the amnesiac girl".
Hmm... "Reminiscence ~ The Amnesiac Girl" sounds weird, though... "Reminiscence ~ A Girl With Lost Memories/Memory Loss" maybe would work better?
I was also trying to do something with Shigaraki's theme, although I'm not sure what I should do with it... I understand that it was supposed to mean"[his] motive/real intention [was a] joke", or something like that? I don't want to get too creative there, but I have no idea how to put it.
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Also, the GK Pursuit theme names are a bit oddly worded. This is the result of taking a translation a bit too literally and ending up with a confusing title. Perhaps "Seeking to Search Through" and "Seeking to Pinpoint", or something like these, would be more fitting. Since none of the Pursuit titles actually include the word "truth" or "end" in them, they can be applied to anything.
And just for the record, what's translated as "Press" in the GS cross-examinations is actually "ゆさぶる", which means "to shake, to jolt" - Shouting "Hold it!" does do the trick. What's translated as "Pinpoint" in the Mood Matrix scenes is "つきとめる"... which is the same verb as in GK2's track name. It's also why I chose it.
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GS2 is actually "Wanting to Cross-Examine", not "Questioned", as it uses the same word as in Cross-Examination themes, and is meant (and probably was in Japanese version?) to reference common question in the game, whether we want to continue with questioning.
GK translated as something among the lines of "get down", "investigate thoroughly" and "follow an argument to its logical conclusion"
GK2 was basically just "wanting to find out".
Hmm... I think I'd need more opinions on that one.
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Sligneris wrote:
Hmm... "Reminiscence ~ The Amnesiac Girl" sounds weird, though... "Reminiscence ~ A Girl With Lost Memories/Memory Loss" maybe would work better?
Yes that would work too.
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GS2 is actually "Wanting to Cross-Examine", not "Questioned", as it uses the same word as in Cross-Examination themes, and is meant (and probably was in Japanese version?) to reference common question in the game, whether we want to continue with questioning.
That's not really the same word. Cross-examination is "尋問", while the verb in GS2's pursuit theme is "問い詰める"/"問いつめる". They share a kanji, but it's not the same word. "Wanting to question" would be correct.
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I still want to somehow change Maya's Reminiscence.... Would "Maya's Heartbreaking Evening" work? (Similarly with Athena's Pirate Song theme)
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No, the difference between that theme and Athena's pirate song is that the first one doesn't have a specific pun to it. The other one does.
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I don't know. "Heartbroken Maya" just like that sounds weird to me.
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