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I wonder how come Vera managed to survive the poisonous Atroquinine. According to Klavier, it's like a touch of a Reaper's Scythe. Which means there's no way to actually survive if Atroquinine Poison is on Anyone's body.

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I think it was because "it was just below the lethal amount". Although she did eat nail polish too. And it would have still been wet, since she put it on like a minute before she bit her nails.
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Below the Lethal Amount? Hadn't Ema/Klavier/Whoever said the lethal dosage is... err... how milligrams was it again? It was too low, that I forgot it.

Weird for a happy-go-lucky girl. I wonder if her nails were half-dried then. It should reduce some amount of Atroquinine... or the reverse?
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Yes, as Blackquillz said, it was just below the lethal amount. Perhaps Kristoph had it a little too diluted, since it was intended for a 12 year old. Or the nail polish had got sedimented in the bottom of the bottle and some of the poison went along.
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Kristoph accidentally gave her one of the bottles intended for himself and kept the poisonous one, and since he's striving for the most beautiful nails he'd never ever bite them. She merely got sick because she had a cup of sweetened coffe just before the trial and its grossness dawned on her more and more.

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^Eheh.

I believe I've solved the mystery of why Doug Swallow made "poison". Here, let me quote the game here.
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Last night, someone stole
some poison from our lab.

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P-Poison...?

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The same thing happened
eight months ago. A drug
sample was stolen.

She came to the lab that
time, too.

It could only have been her!
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*insert Phoenix spazzing and pushing him onto his umbrella here*

Anyways, the point of that was to see that he said "a drug sample" had been stolen from them in the middle of the night. They probably kept that sample for educational purposes, to study it or whatever. So, when they made more, they just did that for educational purposes and to replace that sample.

Also, found out a bit about the bottle necklace - it held two teaspoons exactly.

Also, found out about the whole contradiction between Diego drinking the whole thing or not - it said in the case report that they found traces of the poison on his cup. Note that it said "on the cup" and not in the coffee left in the cup. So he probably did chug the whole thing.

One more thing! They said that the poison is special because it is extremely hard to detect. So we know that it's colorless and etc.

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Anyways, the point of that was to see that he said "a drug sample" had been stolen from them in the middle of the night. They probably kept that sample for educational purposes, to study it or whatever. So, when they made more, they just did that for educational purposes and to replace that sample.

Ah!
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Also, found out a bit about the bottle necklace - it held two teaspoons exactly.

Silly Dahlia.
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Also, found out about the whole contradiction between Diego drinking the whole thing or not - it said in the case report that they found traces of the poison on his cup. Note that it said "on the cup" and not in the coffee left in the cup. So he probably did chug the whole thing.

Mhm. I'm back to the "he threw some of the poison up". Or rather, I never left that one, but spilling the coffee would be cuter. (Because it isn't as fun if he just was one lucky fellow. I need to stretch things.)

No, wait. He survived because he's a troll. I forgot that for a sec.
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It just shows all of the coffee left the mug, not where it went. He could still have spilled some of it.

And the "powdered poison" that killed Glen Elg... Was totally sugar.
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But of course! Poor Glen.
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So that's why when Viola offered Phoenix and Maya coffee with sugar in it... *shudder*
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And here I thought she was just messing, trying to be a little creepy. But she actually did try to...

Edit: Now I know where Diego's coffee went. He'd never chug sweetened coffee voluntarily, naturally. He did the largest spit-take in the world before collapsing.
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So he kept the whole mug worth of coffee in his mouth and then pfwoooosh? That... Sounds like something he could totally do. Bonus point if he had sugar spat IT on Dahlia for trolling, but she probably saw what was coming and moved aside.

On the subject of Dahlia, I'm just gonna put in my little theory in more detail.

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Dahlia poisoned Diego with poison extracted from the Borginian cocoon. As stated in the game, one cocoon makes for a big quantity of poison, and the poison Dahlia used was lethal at two teaspoons. Exportation of the cocoons were banned after "an incident several years ago" which was hushed down by media and isn't expanded further upon. In AJ, twelve (several) years have passed since the courthouse poisoning, which was just vaguely described in the news paper as "an incident", and in 3-1, everyone just referes to the poison as "a special poison". She got it from the school lab, and it's said in 4-3 that while the cocoons can be used to make the Incuritis cure by a process, altering that process just slightly turns it into poison. Therefore, the fact that a school lab holds a poison may be sheer accident.

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*huff* *puff* *huff* *puff* HAH! *desk slam* :grey:

Sorry. I was in a very bad mood, and somehow vented myself. Anyways, about the topic. Are you serious that Viola offered them poisoned coffee so the two gems of AA would die of poison? Also... even if they (drank?) it, the poison itself didn't work for unknown reasons.
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Ace Pointer: We were only kidding about sweetened coffee.

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So he kept the whole mug worth of coffee in his mouth and then pfwoooosh? That... Sounds like something he could totally do. Bonus point if he had sugar spat IT on Dahlia for trolling, but she probably saw what was coming and moved aside.

Exactly! Chugchugchug... No no no no NOOO! :spit:

Yeah... At least he tried. At least the troll tried, because I'm sure he did.
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As stated in the game, one cocoon makes for a big quantity of poison, and the poison Dahlia used was lethal at two teaspoons. Exportation of the cocoons were banned after "an incident several years ago" which was hushed down by media and isn't expanded further upon.

That's right! It almost feels like canon now. Very much headcanon'd.
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Of course he tries, but A troll only fails when a troll gets poisoned. That is my rule. I think he has inflatable cheeks, but that is beside the point.

Seriously though, Lamiroir's eyecondition, was it due to shock?
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A troll that gets poisoned is a bad troll, that's why he stopped being one as Godot.

Did they state where she got shot? I don't remember much.
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Ace Pointer: We were only kidding about sweetened coffee.

Even it is a "joke" or anything, let's pretend it really happened. Viola gave the duo cup of "coffees".
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A troll that gets poisoned is a bad troll, that's why he stopped being one as Godot.

Did they state where she got shot? I don't remember much.


I don"t think they did. I'm at the final trial now.
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I just assumed that since she lost her memory and her eyesight, it musts have affect her brain somehow... Maybe she was hit in the head? Or her spine or something?
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Wouldn't that kill her? The head, at least. Some sort of nerve damage seems legit, otherwise.
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Well, Malala Yousafzai did survive being shot in the head. Maybe Thalassa was shot only on the very side of her head or something.
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True...
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What's the deal with Grossberg and his hemorrhoids? Did he get them because he is overweight?
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One cause of hemorrhoids is obesity, so I would think so.
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I'd say it's because he's constipated. He was constipated throughout that trial and really needed to go to the bathroom. It's why he took so long to get one file.
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...Were you kidding about that, or is it canon that he always needs to pee?
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Hemorrhoids are associated with constipation and straining at bowel movements. Pregnancy is also associated with hemorrhoids. These conditions lead to increased pressure within the hemorrhoidal veins that causes them to swell. Other conditions, for example chronic liver disease, may also cause increased venous pressure and may be associated with hemorrhoids.

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According to the Japanese source, he kept complaining about his butt, and the localization team was free to take that wherever they pleased. I suppose given his girth, it was only expected that they went with the safest option.

But it's a common recurring joke in the fandom ever since that one option in the first game where Nick assumed he and White were "lovers".
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I think he could just go for a diet or some physical excersize-shaping up or something. :yogi:

Btw, I agree with your "Atroquinine Theory". Also, I dunno how long this thread would survive. XD
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I KNEW Grossberg's hemorrhoids would get brought up. I also knew that it was gonna be hilarious too. I just burst out laughing out of nowhere.

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Of course he tries, but A troll only fails when a troll gets poisoned. That is my rule. I think he has inflatable cheeks, but that is beside the point.


Inflatable cheeks? Or maybe he uses them for storage, kinda like a chipmunk?

EDIT: was gonna post something that was probably rather dirty, but decided it was too effed up. Gonna go bleach my brain now.
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...now I'm, eh, uhm, curious. Morbid curiosity.
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Nope. Sorry bro. You'll just have to fight against your curiosity this time.
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I will do that, sis, but still; one shouldn't awaken people's curiosity like that!

...but this time it might for the best and I'll try not to think about it. My mind might wander in unwanted directions.
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Trust your little sis on this one, WFG. I'm doing you a favor here by sparing your sanity.
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I... will thank and trust you then, sister. I need to keep at least some of my sanity. *takes deep breaths and thinks of pretty things*
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Brami, now you've got me curious. Waaah!
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I think that Vera might be Autistic. By that I mean slightly high on the spectrum, more severe than Aspergers, but still able to speak, just not that much. Some people with Autism are shown to have one particular talent they excel at, even at a really young age. I admittedly don't have a lot of evidence, but this is something I've been thinking about since I first played the game.
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My little sister is autistic, so I know a bit about that and can say with certainty that Vera could be autistic, indeed. That's not what I personally think, mind, I think that she was just afraid of going outside because of how she was almost kidnapped once, but there's a possibility there, I'll admit.

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Bramimond wrote:
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Bram, this is the medical thread. Post it in the name of science, but hide in spoiler tags for common courtesy. I do not like it when my curiosity is piqued but not followed through. >:(
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:scientific: For the power of science! :sassy: You must tell us, Brami!
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