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I just fail to see how Phoenix traveling around the world improving the legal system of mysterious countries could be related in any way to anything in DD.

You mean to tell me the new country in AA6 won't be the only new one? :udgey:

I highly doubt we're actually flying around the world in one game. The Water Mirror is a key game mechanic and it's built into the floor of the courtroom. No way in heck is Nick going to leave after one or two cases.

That said, it doesn't mean he had come to this country alone. While that boy could possibly be an assistant with him for this one case, he's a part-time tour guide. Bokto may also be a monk in training, but I doubt he'll have the same kind of channeling power as that oracle girl. And that girl ain't gonna be the assistant either, especially with how she's been introduced.

That leaves the assistant role open for candidates, doesn't it?
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That leaves the assistant role open for candidates, doesn't it?

Maybe he brings Trucy along for some Father-Daughter bonding? That's all i can think of and surely Apollo could use a break from being annoyed 24/7 by her.
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Dang it. I just imagined a scenario where Trucy gets her father to travel to Tibet because she has plans for him and Maya. "But why TIBET!?" "'Cause that's where she's going, silly! Now get packing!"
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You actually bring up an interesting idea there. How about, no Apollo or Athena, but bring Trucy with you and meet up with Maya.

...okay, no, on second thought I don't see that working :-P
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Oh, please. Nothing like a good ol' goat ride to get father and daughter to bond. :D

Wow, no wonder Nick is so pissed in that picture.
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Dang it. I just imagined a scenario where Trucy gets her father to travel to Tibet because she has plans for him and Maya. "But why TIBET!?" "'Cause that's where she's going, silly! Now get packing!"


"Trucy, stop trying to hook your adoptive parent up, it's creepy!"

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Dang it. I just imagined a scenario where Trucy gets her father to travel to Tibet because she has plans for him and Maya. "But why TIBET!?" "'Cause that's where she's going, silly! Now get packing!"


"Trucy, stop trying to hook your adoptive parent up, it's adorable!"

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negativity about the game should not translate to negativity about your fellow posters

Oh if only everyone, especially at GameFAQs could learn from this. (except I guess that's more a case of "negative opinions about games turns into negative reception as a person from the receivers"

Shoryuken could take a few lessons as well. You ask their community if they like the idea of virtual chess fighting (i. e. combination of chess and one or more fighting games in a single tournament/discipline), and they just start calling you autistic or something. Gee, some people... :simon:

Anyway, for a moment there I thought maybe this "changing the whole country" motif had to do something with connecting Nick's adventures with those of his ancestor Chiron (a fine fan name for Ryuunosuke if I've ever seen one)... Based on the timing of these games' existing and expected releases so far (which are close, to say the least), maybe they've already conspired to make it look like they'll make two separate trilogies, then BAM! the fifth game in total ties it all together, drawing a huge parallel across more than an entire century, solving a final case no younger than that, and restoring peace and justice... *puts glasses on* ...for all.
...Okay, to all, I get it.

My second thought was that they might use this whole magatama madness revival to steer the game towards a Ghost Trick crossover, but that's probably just as likely as my first thought, so never mind that.
It sure was mighty fun to think about all of this, though! :athena:

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Dang it. I just imagined a scenario where Trucy gets her father to travel to Tibet because she has plans for him and Maya. "But why TIBET!?" "'Cause that's where she's going, silly! Now get packing!"

So basically a setup for an investigation with Phoenix, Maya, Pearl and Trucy arguing about ladders/stepladders. Yeah, seems a little long overdue. Where do I sign up?
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So, the story will be taking place in a different country... apparently, a place where society is organized according to a hierarchical system which is hugely influenced by spiritual beliefs. I have a feeling we've seen something like this before. Maybe because it was a recurring theme in the first three games, maybe because it was also present in case 5-2. I don't get it, why put a girl with an amulet and "spiritual powers" in it again? This series has had enough of this. A change of location should be followed by a change of themes imo. Just hope this game doesn't turn out to be some kind of introduction to a "Fey Clan 2.0".

I'm kind of pessimistic, but I'll wait for more information to form a definite opinion on it. The new court system could be interesting, at least.
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Dang it. I just imagined a scenario where Trucy gets her father to travel to Tibet because she has plans for him and Maya. "But why TIBET!?" "'Cause that's where she's going, silly! Now get packing!"

So basically a setup for an investigation with Phoenix, Maya, Pearl and Trucy arguing about ladders/stepladders. Yeah, seems a little long overdue. Where do I sign up?

Now that I think about it, the Tibetans don't have separate words for ladder and stepladder. What will we do, guys? :(
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What I find strange is how seemingly it's okay to preemptively say it looks good and be excited, but it's not okay to say it looks bad and you're not that interested...


To be clear: it's fine to say you're not impressed with what's coming out! What's important is that you don't tear down others who do like it - and, in return, I would expect them to be respectful of your opinions as well.

...Of course, a forum filled with nothing but negativity does get awfully tiring to read, so it would be nice if folks tempered their words and gave solid critique/discussion rather than just say "this sucks". (And again, the opposite would hold true - but the day we get a thread about a Yamazaki game that is too filled with "INCREDIBLE!!!" for reasonable discussion I'll eat my hat. :yogi: )
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Dang it. I just imagined a scenario where Trucy gets her father to travel to Tibet because she has plans for him and Maya. "But why TIBET!?" "'Cause that's where she's going, silly! Now get packing!"


"Trucy, stop trying to hook your adoptive parent up, it's adorable!"

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You're sick. :ron: Imagine if Phoenix was her biological father. Do you still think that would be adorable?

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That does sound like a possibility, in which case I severely hope that it's NOT the case. It would just show they have NO proper ideas anymore...

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THAT STUPID JOKE CAN GO DIE AND BURN! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! :edgey:

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You're sick. :ron: Imagine if Phoenix was her biological father. Do you still think that would be adorable?

That does sound like a possibility, in which case I severely hope that it's NOT the case. It would just show they have NO proper ideas anymore...

THAT STUPID JOKE CAN GO DIE AND BURN! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! :edgey:


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Edit: Actually, on second thought, that's not even "no fun allowed". That's just you shitting on other people's ideas in a rather critical way, and on that note, rather common ideas at that. It seems like you're here only to be negative towards other people's ideas/opinions/anything positive anybody has to say.
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Edit: Actually, on second thought, that's not even "no fun allowed". That's just you shitting on other people's ideas in a rather critical way, and on that note, rather common ideas at that. It seems like you're here only to be negative towards other people's ideas/opinions/anything positive anybody has to say.


The only one I will agree on there is maybe my words about the stepladder/ladder joke disappearing. Though I stand by it, that joke stopped being funny like the second or third time it appeared. Especially since the joke isn't very funny to begin with and the difference is very easy to tell. In fact, if they are going to bring that joke back, I hope it gets shunted once and for all.

Phoenix: Oh. A stepladder.
Mysterious Chick: That is a ladder, Mr Wright.
Phoenix: ...what is the difference, anyway?
Mysterious Chick: The ladder requires a stable, vertical surface to be leaned against to use. A stepladder does not require any asisstance, being capable of supporting itself.
Phoenix: ...O-Oh. I see. (There honestly was such a simple difference to them?)

As for the Fey Clan 2.0? Seriously, would you enjoy a game series that keeps going, but only because it's basically rehashing its already done plot and character ideas, but with a poor, chipping layer of paint on top of it? Bad enough that Ema was originally Maya ~*WITH SCIENCE*~, but at least she was somewhat expanded upon to be not just a Maya clone. We don't need another big family feud or spiritual emphasis. If they honestly cannot bring out a new AA game without copying their old games, they need to throw in the towel.

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Thank god I'm not into deep and intricate plots or into good writing.
I just like the mysteries and cases. The characters are pretty interesting, too, but so long as they keep up the same style, I'll probably like it.
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Remember the old days where everyone was so hyped and thrilled about the prospect of a new AA game coming over in the West?

I haven't read the first post nor do I plan to. Call me naive, but I don't want to know anything about this game. I'll wait until it comes out, play it, and reserve my judgement for then. All I can say is I enjoyed DD, which I thought was better than AJ, which was Takumi's last game, so I'm going into this new game with a little bit of hope that it'll turn out good.

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As for the Fey Clan 2.0? Seriously, would you enjoy a game series that keeps going, but only because it's basically rehashing its already done plot and character ideas, but with a poor, chipping layer of paint on top of it? Bad enough that Ema was originally Maya ~*WITH SCIENCE*~, but at least she was somewhat expanded upon to be not just a Maya clone. We don't need another big family feud or spiritual emphasis. If they honestly cannot bring out a new AA game without copying their old games, they need to throw in the towel.

Here's the thing: As far as announced materials go, how can you possibly know what the plot is? Was family feuds mentioned anywhere? All that was mentioned was a flawed court system relying on "spirits" of questionable origin, effectively denying people the right to a credible defence, in the eyes of Phoenix, who then proceeds to step up and object. That had nothing to do with the Kurain trilogy in the slightest. In fact, that has all the markings of Phoenix denouncing their spirits as biased, or even fake. Colour me intrigued.

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PS: What else am I supposed to think of someone saying that a girl is basically trying to get her parent laid and thinking it's adorable?

The only person who said laid was you; Rubia sure didn't. Trying to get two friends reacquainted doesn't have to be anymore than that, at least as a motivation. Perhaps you're projecting.
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effectively denying people the right to a credible defence, in the eyes of Phoenix, who then proceeds to step up and object.


It's an Ace Attorney game, you never had a proper, credible defense chance to begin with. :ron:

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It would be forcing to people into each other's company. What if they don't want each other's company at the moment? Or better yet, they don't want SOMEONE ELSE to direct their lives. If they want to meet up with someone, fine, they don't want someone else to play Matchmaker.

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It's an Ace Attorney game, you never had a proper, credible defense chance to begin with. :ron:

Exact words; "In the eyes of Phoenix". You even quoted it.

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It would be forcing to people into each other's company. What if they don't want each other's company at the moment? Or better yet, they don't want SOMEONE ELSE to direct their lives. If they want to meet up with someone, fine, they don't want someone else to play Matchmaker.

It's Maya and Nick. You know, the pair that stuck together for 3 years (at a confirmed minimum). Shouldn't need to remind you what Phoenix willingly went through trying to protect Maya. They were still even writing letters to each other and using Pearls as the relay in DD (well at least Maya was, as far as we've seen). I think "forced" is pretty much out of the question.

If your adoptive daughter tells you to go meet your closest friend that you haven't seen in 7 years because you haven't seen them in 7 years, you damn well take that excuse to do so.
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Re-Read: Maybe he doesn't WANT to meet her right now. Doesn't matter if it's a good friend or lover, sometimes, even if you like them a lot, you don't want to see them right now.

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Hey, no reason for the two of you to argue! It seemed to me like CatMuto was making a side remark about how she'd find it a bit odd, and making predictions about the plot, I don't really think she claims to know with certainty what the game will be about.

Anyway, this is reminding me a lot of DD's announcement in 2012. It was confirmed that it'd be released in the west as soon as the logo was published, if I remember correctly. Now, back then, a PLvsPW localization was only a glimmer in the community's eye, and it'd be another year and a half or so before it would be confirmed, than another half year before its release, after DD's localization. While I know the PLvsPW localization was picked up by Level 5 in the end, this is reminding me a bit of that scenario.
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All these people making in-depth analyses and speculation and I'm just here wondering what the subtitle might be.

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit Trials
- Reflections of Law
- Objected Faith
- All Outta Bum Raps
- NoMo' Japanifornia
- Silence of the Yaks
- Far Cry 4
- Turnabout Plane Ticket
- Goats and Tribulations
- Jumping the Orca
- vs Professor Layton 2: Tibet is Fake
- Climbing Himalayas and Dying
- Ace Attorney Murderer: Asian Genocide

Alright, that got a bit ridiculous, but anyways, I think the game looks relatively fresh and interesting and will be a nice change of pace for Phoenix, let's hope it'll be to DD what AAI2 was to AAI and keep a positive outlook, at least until TGS ruins everything :trucy: .
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These are great XD I love the "Tibet is Fake" crossover XD

I don't know what the English subtitle could be... Maybe something like "Ace Attorney: Bonds of Fate"?
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I like the second title a lot.
It can work because of the gimmick.
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Not a bad list. Most of them would make interesting fangame titles...

I have no idea, though. Conquest of Everest "Spirit of Law" reminds me of this one really nice rap-piano remix of Court Begins I found on OCR, but it could be the most obvious choice.
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This makes me think of turning Kristoph Gavin into some sort of Hannibal Lecter expy. Why and how would he be in Not-Tibet? I dunno.
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While we're coming up with names, Ace Attorney: Spirits Within.

Nah, that'd be a shame. We've already seen what happened when Final Fantasy used that subtitle.

I'm still awaiting an Ace Attorney game where Phoenix finally gets off his lazy bum and gets himself a driver's license. Can't flash your lawyer badge forever when someone asks for your ID, bub.
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I'm still awaiting an Ace Attorney game where Phoenix finally gets off his lazy bum and gets himself a driver's license. Can't flash your lawyer badge forever when someone asks for your ID, bub.

That reminds me. Since he's in a new country, how will they recognize that he's a defense attorney and not some quack pretending to be the real person?
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Oh my god you know what this suddenly reminds me of?
Dragon Ball GT.

Think about it, their trying to recapture the glory days by moving the protagonist to a completely different location. Just replace Trunks with spirit mediums...
I just hope the writing isn't as bad.

...Now i'm just picturing Edgeworth shaving off a moustache and going. "Hey Apollo, notice anything.... Different?"
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I just hope Trucy is in this game at the very least. I want a Dad & Daughter combo in one of the case.
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Here's the thing: As far as announced materials go, how can you possibly know what the plot is? Was family feuds mentioned anywhere? All that was mentioned was a flawed court system relying on "spirits" of questionable origin, effectively denying people the right to a credible defence, in the eyes of Phoenix, who then proceeds to step up and object. That had nothing to do with the Kurain trilogy in the slightest. In fact, that has all the markings of Phoenix denouncing their spirits as biased, or even fake. Colour me intrigued.


We can't say the game will repeat the same things that happened with the Fey Clan (at least not yet), but we can claim there is a high probability that it will feature themes already used before (in the entire first trilogy). Seeing the shape of this amulet, the new characters' clothes and this "oracle of spirits", it doesn't take a genius to deduce the chances of some hierarchy based on spiritual aptitude being part of the storyline. This "oracle of spirits" could be some kind of master, even.

Another thing. I really hope I'm wrong, but this game looks like a regression of everything that was established in AJ and DD. It's like they are trying to put emphasis on Phoenix again. Capcom just doesn't make sense, lol. They come up with these crazy ideas, and totally change the direcion the series is heading in every new game.
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Given how Bolt Storm worded it in the first post I guess it can't be helped so many people misinterpret it, but "oracle of the spirits" specifically refers to a message (御霊の託宣). It is not the title of a person.
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I'm still awaiting an Ace Attorney game where Phoenix finally gets off his lazy bum and gets himself a driver's license. Can't flash your lawyer badge forever when someone asks for your ID, bub.

That reminds me. Since he's in a new country, how will they recognize that he's a defense attorney and not some quack pretending to be the real person?

Good question. Especially since no one noticed during the days of Furio Tigre in his own native country in the first place. I'd guess if they went the lazy way, pull what Mario did in the BeanBean Kingdom, but instead of having a signature jump, he has a signature finger point that everyone will recognize.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


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There aren't defense attorneys in this country anyway, so I doubt it matters if he can prove that he's one or not. On the other hand, now he has an excuse to show everyone his badge, since they probably haven't seen something like that before.
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Nah, the lazy way would be to just roll with it and not question his integrity. After all, "there's no way this foreigner will win against the Oracle" seems to be the common theme.

It was a minor mistranslation on Bolt's part regarding the "no defense attorneys", actually. I doubt this country has never seen defense attorneys before. They've simply disappeared out of use because having one seems so moot. So, Phoenix arrives to prove that wrong, and bam! We have a new game.
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Honestly, the thing I'm most concerned about is the change of a setting and how this will affect characters. Franziska and Lang seem to be the only characters that'd make sense to return (and maybe Trucy because she went there with Phoenix), and that'd lead to the same problem I had with DD, being that there's next to no returning characters - aside from the staple Phoenix, Trucy, Apollo and Edgeworth, we only got Pearls and Klavier. Even though seeing Franziska and maybe Shi-Long Lang return would be fairly cool.
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Honestly, the thing I'm most concerned about is the change of a setting and how this will affect characters. Franziska and Lang seem to be the only characters that'd make sense to return (and maybe Trucy because she went there with Phoenix), and that'd lead to the same problem I had with DD, being that there's next to no returning characters - aside from the staple Phoenix, Trucy, Apollo and Edgeworth, we only got Pearls and Klavier. Even though seeing Franziska and maybe Shi-Long Lang return would be fairly cool.


At least it didn't pull the AJ-Card of replacing Gumshoe with someone who was shoved into the game post-release and then added characters that are super forgettable. I may not LIKE certain characters in the previous AA games, but they were more memorable than "Ms Dahlia Rip Off", "Joey Wheeler YGO TAS" and "That blind kid that actually wasn't blind". At least DD HAD some returning characters. (And personally, I don't count Klavier)

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