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Ok then to be back on topic:
1) What do you think is his goal for visiting this foreign country? Was it really just for reforming the country system because of this mysterious girl?
1) What do you think is his goal for visiting this foreign country? Was it really just for reforming the country system because of this mysterious girl?
Possible scenario, at least given the information up to now, Phoenix was out on a vacation, his guide was put on trial and Phoenix decided he can't go back until he's shown those neanderthalian court-jesters about the amazement of having actual defense lawyers and not decide on a pool of water whether someone is guilty or innocent.
It'll end with him, after having spent months on this 'vacation' (since he obviously has no real job in Japanifornia, after all, or anything else that might require responsibilities to be paid attention to), returning home and seeing his mailbox overflowing with mail and an eviction notice, cause he didn't pay rent on his office.
Either that, or Phoenix'll decide to do what Edgey apparently did and travel the world, leaning other court systems. (Trucy might or might not be asked if she wants to travel the world now, too, or would rather stay at home and finish school and what not)
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There is no such thing as Self-Defense. We might call it that, but everyone will still be a dick and call you a murderer, so there is no point in even pleading for that. It's either Off by all charges or Guilty.
This calls for some expert help from the Mighty Machinima Klavier!
Ob-JEK-shoon!
Actually, Fräulein KatzMuto, in the first AA game you played, there was that one-time option of lessening the penalty by choosing justified self-defence instead of opting for the Not Guilty verdict, ja? And while it still counts as a Guilty verdict by in-game result, it seems to primarily serve as a provision of an important Aesop about how going all the way to find the truth and also believing in your client until the very end is always a better option. The point is, there is no evidence whatsoever suggesting that the party guilty of self-defence actually gets called a murderer, much less by everyone already being a single unspecified detective, because the game cuts off at that point!
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CatMuto wrote:
There is no such thing as Self-Defense. We might call it that, but everyone will still be a dick and call you a murderer, so there is no point in even pleading for that. It's either Off by all charges or Guilty.
This calls for some expert help from the Mighty Machinima Klavier!
Ob-JEK-shoon!
Actually, Fräulein KatzMuto, in the first AA game you played, there was that one-time option of lessening the penalty by choosing justified self-defence instead of opting for the Not Guilty verdict, ja? And while it still counts as a Guilty verdict by in-game result, it seems to primarily serve as a provision of an important Aesop about how going all the way to find the truth and also believing in your client until the very end is always a better option. The point is, there is no evidence whatsoever suggesting that the party guilty of self-defence actually gets called a murderer, much less by everyone already being a single unspecified detective, because the game cuts off at that point!
Actually, Phoenix says that opting for Justified Self-Defense is still a guilty verdict and that idiots would still call Maya a murderer - though it couldn't be a murder, only homicide because Maya was not in control of her body. Das ist das Problem, Herr Quixote, und nicht dass es um die Findung der Wahrheit geht.
But homicide ALSO doesn't exist in AA, it's always murder. Even if you're supposedly a little kid and kill someone on accident, it's still murder. As Herr Grossberg so KINDLY told us.
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I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
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CatMuto wrote:
Actually, Phoenix says that opting for Justified Self-Defense is still a guilty verdict and that idiots would still call Maya a murderer - though it couldn't be a murder, only homicide because Maya was not in control of her body. Das ist das Problem, Herr Quixote, und nicht dass es um die Findung der Wahrheit geht.
But homicide ALSO doesn't exist in AA, it's always murder. Even if you're supposedly a little kid and kill someone on accident, it's still murder. As Herr Grossberg so KINDLY told us.
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But homicide ALSO doesn't exist in AA, it's always murder. Even if you're supposedly a little kid and kill someone on accident, it's still murder. As Herr Grossberg so KINDLY told us.
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...Just as I expected. Nice catch, if y'know what I mean. Bonus points for that Gratuitous German, too!
Fake Klav, you're dismissed!...Also, don't you mean "manslaughter" instead of "homicide"?
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Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
Actually...
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
While that is correct, it still makes no sense that that is where they decide to be very, very true to the Japanese culture and basis of the game, even for the localization. Cause you know, a ramen shop is totally the same as a 'noodle' shop and don't forget the typically American low-table that you sit at on cushions, or the floor, with that nice heater on the inside.
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...Also, don't you mean "manslaughter" instead of "homicide"?
Mh, technically, yes.
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D_Albertz wrote:
Ok then to be back on topic:
1) What do you think is his goal for visiting this foreign country? Was it really just for reforming the country system because of this mysterious girl?
2) Sorry if this is offtopic. But:
When EXACTLY is the HAT-3 Launch. From my view it seems to be rather quick compared to HAT-1 & HAT-2 7 years gap. Half year or even full one year afterward?(which means in Dec. 2029?) This is important since we must deduce WHEN this game sets and how it seems to happen AFTER HAT-3 launch.
1) What do you think is his goal for visiting this foreign country? Was it really just for reforming the country system because of this mysterious girl?
2) Sorry if this is offtopic. But:
When EXACTLY is the HAT-3 Launch. From my view it seems to be rather quick compared to HAT-1 & HAT-2 7 years gap. Half year or even full one year afterward?(which means in Dec. 2029?) This is important since we must deduce WHEN this game sets and how it seems to happen AFTER HAT-3 launch.
1) Not "because of" this mysterious girl; rather, this country's judicial system is just crap and unreliable in the first place. Someone has to do something; might as well be Nick.
2) Dates are never secured in the AA games anyway. We can only assume that the events of this game take place the following year after DD. And whether you count by the Wiki's timeline or the miscounted official timeline, it'd be some time in 2027/8, respectively.
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Re: Ace Attorney 6 in Famitsu 9/3/15 - full scans
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
D_Albertz wrote:
Ok then to be back on topic:
1) What do you think is his goal for visiting this foreign country? Was it really just for reforming the country system because of this mysterious girl?
2) Sorry if this is offtopic. But:
When EXACTLY is the HAT-3 Launch. From my view it seems to be rather quick compared to HAT-1 & HAT-2 7 years gap. Half year or even full one year afterward?(which means in Dec. 2029?) This is important since we must deduce WHEN this game sets and how it seems to happen AFTER HAT-3 launch.
1) What do you think is his goal for visiting this foreign country? Was it really just for reforming the country system because of this mysterious girl?
2) Sorry if this is offtopic. But:
When EXACTLY is the HAT-3 Launch. From my view it seems to be rather quick compared to HAT-1 & HAT-2 7 years gap. Half year or even full one year afterward?(which means in Dec. 2029?) This is important since we must deduce WHEN this game sets and how it seems to happen AFTER HAT-3 launch.
1) Not "because of" this mysterious girl; rather, this country's judicial system is just crap and unreliable in the first place. Someone has to do something; might as well be Nick.
2) Dates are never secured in the AA games anyway. We can only assume that the events of this game take place the following year after DD. And whether you count by the Wiki's timeline or the miscounted official timeline, it'd be some time in 2027/8, respectively.
There's no way it'll be in 2027. The DD's final case sets in Dec.2027. So it'll obviously sets after 2027..but i hate how cases in main AA game has a huge gap of one/2 months between cases.
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I personally give no craps about the gaps, I mean most of the cases are pretty shocking for them...
For the gaps? The gaps are shocked by cases?
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CatMuto wrote:
Actually, Phoenix says that opting for Justified Self-Defense is still a guilty verdict and that idiots would still call Maya a murderer - though it couldn't be a murder, only homicide because Maya was not in control of her body.
Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
Actually...
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
Wasn't the more important thing that Maya couldn't live with herself if she thought she really did kill someone (even though she wasn't in control of her own body; Maya already made clear she doesn't think that excuses her). As I recall it, that is what was important to Phoenix, not so much how the public would look at Maya, but rather how Maya would look at herself...
And it's not something I disagree with. Even if accidental or in self-defense, I probably wouldn't be too comfortable with myself either.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
I feel the same
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Wasn't the more important thing that Maya couldn't live with herself if she thought she really did kill someone (even though she wasn't in control of her own body; Maya already made clear she doesn't think that excuses her)
That part made no sense to me, because it was made clear - either in that case or in 3-5 - that, when a medium channels a spirit, the medium is absolutely, 100% gone. They have no control over themselves or the spirit inside their body... so, honestly, what the hell was Maya supposed to have done?
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CatMuto wrote:
That part made no sense to me, because it was made clear - either in that case or in 3-5 - that, when a medium channels a spirit, the medium is absolutely, 100% gone. They have no control over themselves or the spirit inside their body... so, honestly, what the hell was Maya supposed to have done?
I can understand it. It's not logical or rational, but I can definitely sympathize with that feeling...
To try to explain it... Hm... Maya still feels responsible because of something she did (channeling the spirit), someone died. Even if she wasn't in direct control of her body, it was her decision that led to it
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Nurio wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
That part made no sense to me, because it was made clear - either in that case or in 3-5 - that, when a medium channels a spirit, the medium is absolutely, 100% gone. They have no control over themselves or the spirit inside their body... so, honestly, what the hell was Maya supposed to have done?
I can understand it. It's not logical or rational, but I can definitely sympathize with that feeling...
To try to explain it... Hm... Maya still feels responsible because of something she did (channeling the spirit), someone died. Even if she wasn't in direct control of her body, it was her decision that led to it
...didn't Morgan insist Maya do this? I haven't played 2-2 for a long time, so...
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CatMuto wrote:
...didn't Morgan insist Maya do this? I haven't played 2-2 for a long time, so...
Not, sure... But honestly, I'm not sure how you think the typical human mind works, but even if someone else insists you do something, you yourself still feel responsible for the consequences. People don't typically go "well, since you insisted, it's your fault". Not over these matters, anyway
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Nurio wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Actually, Phoenix says that opting for Justified Self-Defense is still a guilty verdict and that idiots would still call Maya a murderer - though it couldn't be a murder, only homicide because Maya was not in control of her body.
Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
Actually...
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
Wasn't the more important thing that Maya couldn't live with herself if she thought she really did kill someone (even though she wasn't in control of her own body; Maya already made clear she doesn't think that excuses her). As I recall it, that is what was important to Phoenix, not so much how the public would look at Maya, but rather how Maya would look at herself...
And it's not something I disagree with. Even if accidental or in self-defense, I probably wouldn't be too comfortable with myself either.
It may have been the more important thing in Maya's case, okay. But she wasn't the only person matching the pattern.
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CatMuto wrote:
Pessimistic_Fool wrote:
Actually...
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
I think it was Neni who explained this on tumblr, but I sadly don't have the link, and it was a while ago.
But from what I remember, this part of the game is justified in that it realistically portraits how society treats you in Japan if you get declared guilty of killing someone - even if it was accidental or in self defense. I can't claim to understand it, but then, I'm not Japanese.
If it's true that their society really judges you for these things, and harshly so, then I can excuse the games using the same rule.
While that is correct, it still makes no sense that that is where they decide to be very, very true to the Japanese culture and basis of the game, even for the localization. Cause you know, a ramen shop is totally the same as a 'noodle' shop and don't forget the typically American low-table that you sit at on cushions, or the floor, with that nice heater on the inside.
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...Also, don't you mean "manslaughter" instead of "homicide"?
Mh, technically, yes.
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Low table with a heater…Are you referring to a kotatsu?
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Although, granted, this is what usually happens when you hit an info-drought for two weeks between an announcement and any actual previews for any type of content. Good thing TGS is less than a week away.
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Low table with a heater…Are you referring to a kotatsu?
That is a very un-American word for a very American thing. The appropriate American term is 'low table with heater inside'.
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Does this normally happen?
It doesn't happen with just my stuff, it can happen with anyone. But yes, it's somewhat regular.
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Although, granted, this is what usually happens when you hit an info-drought for two weeks between an announcement and any actual previews for any type of content.
Or, rather, this is what happens when you have extremely limited info on anything.
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