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I feel like such a moron... I've been wanting to play Ultra Despair Girls and I totally forgot that Daniel brought it to me the last time he was here.... over a month ago.
Man, I'm stupid.
Man, I'm stupid.
Speaking of that spin-off, I read that Ko... Ka... Naegi's sister is the emotionally distressed and instable protagonist. Um, why would I want to play a game where the protagonist repeatedly wants to give up and doesn't seem to have the balls to go through with this? I mean, I'm guessing that getting stronger is part of her arc, but unless she begins to show balls pretty fast, I'd wonder why they didn't make Fukawa the protagonist. At least this way, Genocider can take over the balls part.
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Seriously, it's fine if you want to use your game as a commentary on that, just please stop beating us over the head with it. I'll say it again people, subtlety works wonders.
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TheDoctor wrote:
Well, of course. It's all part of the hope vs. despair "symbolism."
I feel like whenever Naegi, or anyone, mentions the word 'Hope' in the games, 'Friendship is Magic' should start playing and be accompanied by the character farting out rainbow sparkles. (ie the phenomenon, not the pony, if there is one named that)
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Trailer: https://youtu.be/FfMqURJ3ZfE
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New Anime Trailer: https://youtu.be/R9AQjGxQGdw
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So, if I understand correctly, the new game will use a different setting and storyline than DR1 and 2. But the new anime will conclude the story from DR1 and 2. Weird.
Odd naming convention too, but I guess that's not new. That is, the anime is numbered 3, since it's a direct continuation of the prior games, but the new game is called V3 due to the alternate setting and story.
Well, at least it's nice to know that they intend to do something different. I guess we'll see how different it is.
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More stuff xD
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Hey, an image that will likely mean something entirely else. Can we change the villain, please? Monokuma was... never all that good of a villain before...
He doesn't even look intimidating.C-A
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Monokuma is kind of the mascot of the series though, so we're stuck with him.
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Okay, well, the mastermind wasn't a good character to begin with. None of the masterminds were all that interesting.
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CatMuto wrote:
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Okay, well, the mastermind wasn't a good character to begin with. None of the masterminds were all that interesting.
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Fair enough. Just saying that there could be someone interesting behind Monokuma this time around, even if the face hasn't changed.
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So the creators basically said "Fuck it, we're ditching the story for the third game and we'll just conclude it in an anime"? I know he admitted before that the overarching story was basically slapped together but it's still funny to me to just see them ditch it
IIRC, in an interview they said that the development team was basically split, with half wanting to do a story with a new cast and half wanting to continue/finish the story of the current cast. I wouldn't be surprise if the compromise was doing the former in the game and the latter in the anime.
(Also, if they're basically starting over in DRv3, maybe this time they'll be able to do it right...)
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IIRC, in an interview they said that the development team was basically split, with half wanting to do a story with a new cast and half wanting to continue/finish the story of the current cast. I wouldn't be surprise if the compromise was doing the former in the game and the latter in the anime.
(Also, if they're basically starting over in DRv3, maybe this time they'll be able to do it right...)
(Also, if they're basically starting over in DRv3, maybe this time they'll be able to do it right...)
I find it interesting that making a game with a 100% new cast was such an absurd idea. Very minor rewrites in SDR2 could make it almost completely separate so you think very minor rewriters for DRv3 would make it tie-in
Unless this game will be completely different beyond new mechanics, I guess
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
IIRC, in an interview they said that the development team was basically split, with half wanting to do a story with a new cast and half wanting to continue/finish the story of the current cast. I wouldn't be surprise if the compromise was doing the former in the game and the latter in the anime.
(Also, if they're basically starting over in DRv3, maybe this time they'll be able to do it right...)
(Also, if they're basically starting over in DRv3, maybe this time they'll be able to do it right...)
I find it interesting that making a game with a 100% new cast was such an absurd idea. Very minor rewrites in SDR2 could make it almost completely separate so you think very minor rewriters for DRv3 would make it tie-in
Unless this game will be completely different beyond new mechanics, I guess
It's not that it was absurd, they probably just wanted to continue the story with the old cast more than doing a story with a new one.
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JesusMonroe wrote:
So the creators basically said "Fuck it, we're ditching the story for the third game and we'll just conclude it in an anime"? I know he admitted before that the overarching story was basically slapped together but it's still funny to me to just see them ditch it
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(Also, if they're basically starting over in DRv3, maybe this time they'll be able to do it right...)
...I was gonna say something similar, but figured I'd better not, or I'd be 'too negative' again.
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HOLY SHIT I AM SO FUCKING HYPED RIGHT NOW.
No offense, Danny, but I think with your love of DR, I could just whisper "Danganronpa~" into your ear and you'd be hyped.
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The most important question is: which voice actor doing a beloved character on national TV will be cast this time in a surprising role?!
Can we go the YuGiOh route? Cast a singer as the main character?
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HOLY SHIT I AM SO FUCKING HYPED RIGHT NOW.
No offense, Danny, but I think with your love of DR, I could just whisper "Danganronpa~" into your ear and you'd be hyped.
Sadly he didn't even know about this until I told him last night. Usually he's the one that tells me. xD
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TheDoctor wrote:
Agreed. All There In The Manual is a pretty annoying trope.
Especially since majority of said supplementary reading material never adds anything that is actually important to the game, characters or its story. (Like... Final Fantasy XIII, do I really need a chapter telling me about how Sera and Snow buy Lightning's knife? No.)
And if they do include things that are important to the story (Say the deeper reason for the first Zelda game)... then why wasn't it in the game itself to begin with?
You don't cut vital shit out of a game.C-A
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Can I just drop a little note in here saying that I'm tired of people telling me I obviously do not 'get' Danganronpa if I don't read the novel of it? A game shouldn't be only comprehensible if one reads supplementary reading material to begin with.
QFT
Or as I like to phrase it, they shouldn't be making games that require entire separate novels just to make the plot comprehensible.
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- an LJ comment on villains and over the top OCs in The Beast Within
Um... no? Ignoring my overall dislike of Monokuma, what did Monokuma do that actually came across as really, really creepy and mentally-destroyable? Maybe it's because I'm too Genre Savvy, as one might say, but if I found myself with such a stupid bear somewhere and it says "KILL EACH OTHER!" and then shows me a DVD of something that MIGHT have happened, I'd be more inclined to go hardcore and say "Prove it."
That part really bugged me in the game. Naegi sees his home ransacked - okay, maybe someone robbed his place. I do not remember, was there blood in the image? I don't think so. But there was no corpse lying around or anything that said, "Yeah, your family is injured/dead". It was an abandoned, cut up couch - OH, THE HORROR!!
Sure, it worked on Maizono, but... well. She's a freaking Ophelia.
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I'm not saying they should get rid of Monokuma, since I kinda like the evil, cute thing he's got going on, but at least make the mastermind a more credible threat. Heck, 999 had a pretty good example of making the mastermind a credible threat (maybe it's the gas mask?). It can't be that hard.
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The LJ comment might be selling Monokuma a bit too highly, but I also don't think he was completely harmless.
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CatMuto wrote:
Maybe it's because I'm too Genre Savvy, as one might say, but if I found myself with such a stupid bear somewhere and it says "KILL EACH OTHER!" and then shows me a DVD of something that MIGHT have happened, I'd be more inclined to go hardcore and say "Prove it."
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And then he kills you off for being uncooperative
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Maybe it's because I'm too Genre Savvy, as one might say, but if I found myself with such a stupid bear somewhere and it says "KILL EACH OTHER!" and then shows me a DVD of something that MIGHT have happened, I'd be more inclined to go hardcore and say "Prove it."
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And then he kills you off for being uncooperative
I'm not saying I'm refusing to kill people - I just want to have some proper reason to go through with it, before having to waste my time and breath on concocting some plan to get away with it. (And knowing these idiots, I could easily pull it off.) I mean, the money motive might sway me - greed is one of the most common reasons for killing - but not an image or video of a very ambiguous situation that I have no means of verifying.
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Tbf, Monokuma did murder Junko in front of everyone's eyes at the beginning of DR. I gotta imagine "If you don't kill each other, I'll do the job for you!" was at least in the back of the students' minds.
I forget, didn't Monokuma mention something about having broken his own rule there and he won't do it again? (though possible I'm confusing it with Battle Royale right now, I re-read it recently)
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Of course, he made it look like he was going to attack her first, so she technically attacked him in self-defense.
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TheDoctor wrote:
Monokuma killed Junko because she "attacked" him, and the school rules specifically state no harm must be done to the principal/headmaster.
Of course, he made it look like he was going to attack her first, so she technically attacked him in self-defense.
Of course, he made it look like he was going to attack her first, so she technically attacked him in self-defense.
Did she attack him? I thought she just mouthed off to him majorly - though maybe I'm thinking of DRAT, which I am slowly replacing as canon in my head.
Though I do know Oowada was grabbing Monokuma, which was against the rules.
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I forget, didn't Monokuma mention something about having broken his own rule there and he won't do it again? (though possible I'm confusing it with Battle Royale right now, I re-read it recently)
Oh yeah, I mean, the evil teddy bear who's kidnapped us and killed one of our peer right in front of eyes would never lie to us, right?
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Bad Player wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
I forget, didn't Monokuma mention something about having broken his own rule there and he won't do it again? (though possible I'm confusing it with Battle Royale right now, I re-read it recently)
Oh yeah, I mean, the evil teddy bear who's kidnapped us and killed one of our peer right in front of eyes would never lie to us, right?
Hey, if he demands we believe his videos, I'd hold his words to that standard, too. He can't have the cake and eat it, too.
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Fine, but the point is that even if he says he won't, Monokuma is threatening because he can--and has demonstrated that he can--pretty much kill any of them whenever he wants.
Eh. For 'high school talents' that were the 'hope of the generation' majority of them seem painfully stupid and not worth it.
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CatMuto wrote:
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Fine, but the point is that even if he says he won't, Monokuma is threatening because he can--and has demonstrated that he can--pretty much kill any of them whenever he wants.
Eh. For 'high school talents' that were the 'hope of the generation' majority of them seem painfully stupid and not worth it.
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Yeah, but at this point you're just firing off random shots at DR rather than actually addressing the LJ quote that started this whole discussion
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Yeah, but at this point you're just firing off random shots at DR rather than actually addressing the LJ quote that started this whole discussion
Quite honestly, that's because Monokuma mostly came across as directly involved in making them do things is in the very beginning. Maybe with the threat of revealing
For a supposedly threatening villain, he was surprisingly off-hand. And while that can be threatening, I just didn't feel it with Monochi.
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...I kinda would have preferred that. Sure, they say it cheapens the previous event... I think that would have actually, you know, fit more with the game's theme. Hell, have it happen, just to be a player punch in the face, with the previous event being pointless because... that's just how things go in the game. (Then again, maybe I just demanded DR to be darker)
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...I kinda would have preferred that. Sure, they say it cheapens the previous event... I think that would have actually, you know, fit more with the game's theme. Hell, have it happen, just to be a player punch in the face, with the previous event being pointless because... that's just how things go in the game. (Then again, maybe I just demanded DR to be darker)
I see that posted all the time by Hiyoko fans but there's never been a source to back it up. I honestly don't think it's true
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