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-shakes head- Not worksafe, dudes. (but hay, seme!edgey! 8D)
http://www.savefile.com/files/903766
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Sai-Chan wrote:
Since I linked it to the What if Phoenix wore glasses thread, I might as well link it here.
-shakes head- Not worksafe, dudes. (but hay, seme!edgey! 8D)
http://www.savefile.com/files/903766
-shakes head- Not worksafe, dudes. (but hay, seme!edgey! 8D)
http://www.savefile.com/files/903766
HA. XD I've actually read this one before. :D Not worksafe, indeed.
Phoenix + glasses = <3
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I <3 it forever and ever.I need to buy some doujin at my next con.
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I hope some sorry fool sells theirs and for me to buy, in the future.... I'd so scan more if I could.
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It was scanlated by me. ^^;; That's probably the last of the scans I'll share. Maybe a few random pictures if I can get to them without breaking the spine (further).
Does that mean you have that whole story scanlated/for download somewhere? I'm sorry to barge into the thread late, but that beautiful page you posted has me in raptures and I must see the whole story by any means, I'm sure you understand. XD *coming from someone who has also spent exorbitant amounts of money securing rare/unique doujinshi*It's so rare that a favourite pairing of mine has such beautiful artwork done for it!
In return I promise to provide some scans in the near future... a friend of mine came back from Japan recently and promised me some Phoneix/Edgeworth doujin. (The only problem being she had to ship her huge stash of DJ home and it'll be a month!)
If only I'd known that Balgus Rec existed!Anyway. To contribute to the discussion, I'm of the Edgeworth-on-the-bottom camp, and it has nothing to do with elaborate canon reference... I personally find Phoenix very manly (in that jock/sarcastic/rarely-shaved/heroic kind of way) and it's fun to watch them both negotiate what to do when that manliness wants to make itself known!
Possibly TMI, but there you go.
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Well, I still have the guilty pleasure of liking Edgey on top just SLIGHTLY more. XD;
I know what you mean ;)
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sarahofcroydon wrote:
Does that mean you have that whole story scanlated/for download somewhere? I'm sorry to barge into the thread late, but that beautiful page you posted has me in raptures and I must see the whole story by any means, I'm sure you understand. XD *coming from someone who has also spent exorbitant amounts of money securing rare/unique doujinshi*It's so rare that a favourite pairing of mine has such beautiful artwork done for it!
I'll think about it. XD There's isn't really a "rest of" to that scene, in terms of the physical, Balgus REC's GS stuff is very light on "romance-romance" and heavy on plot. (That chapter the kiss scene is from is actually Miles and Gregory centric, and is veeery Japanese, so I'm kinda like "guh, how could I 'localize' this? XD") If I can procure the original pamphlets, or another copy of "dear,dear", I'll scanlate the entire thing, all ~200 pages. As it is, I've just been going through and scanning choice bits.
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Anyway, I did a little pic just in thanks for providing us with the other scanlation...
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Enjoy!
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I_R_Unorthodox wrote:
Out of curiosity, how does scanlation work? Is it like, cleanly erasing the characters on the page and typing it in in english yourself?
Well, it depends if you already have scans. For me, I have to translate, scan the page, clean it, erase the Japanese text, fill in the gaps where the text was, then add the translation. It sounds complicated, but it's not that hard. Just a bit time consuming, because I'm hardly an expert at it. (That second page in the two I did with Miles and Adrian was a biiiitch, and still looks pretty sloppy. >_< )
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Oo, that's lovely, Sarah. And, if it makes you feel better, I've put an order in for more P/E doujinshi that look nice and plotty. (Sadly, I'm kind of boring, and rarely get smutty doujinshi) If they're any good, I'll probably end up scanlating them completely.
Well, it depends if you already have scans. For me, I have to translate, scan the page, clean it, erase the Japanese text, fill in the gaps where the text was, then add the translation. It sounds complicated, but it's not that hard. Just a bit time consuming, because I'm hardly an expert at it. (That second page in the two I did with Miles and Adrian was a biiiitch, and still looks pretty sloppy. >_< )
I_R_Unorthodox wrote:
Out of curiosity, how does scanlation work? Is it like, cleanly erasing the characters on the page and typing it in in english yourself?
Well, it depends if you already have scans. For me, I have to translate, scan the page, clean it, erase the Japanese text, fill in the gaps where the text was, then add the translation. It sounds complicated, but it's not that hard. Just a bit time consuming, because I'm hardly an expert at it. (That second page in the two I did with Miles and Adrian was a biiiitch, and still looks pretty sloppy. >_< )
O.O;; *implodes*
I think I've just desided you are a smart person. As I don't think I'll ever mange to do something like that. lol.
And the page looks fine to me! I don't think it looks sloppy at all!
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I_R_Unorthodox wrote:
I think I've just desided you are a smart person. As I don't think I'll ever mange to do something like that. lol.
Hahaha, it's really not that difficult. It's nothing that Croik and the other members of the scanlation team don't do on a (semi
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Unfortunately some of these sites are down, so I only have sources for a few of them.
In case you were wondering if this existed...it does! But this is the only one of its kind I've seen (that isn't part of a threesome).
Think I found this off 4chan...
From 10/3. I think the site's gone down, though.
Next gen yaoi needs love, too! From Equaled3
Cracks me up. From [url=http://hal-cion.cool.ne.jp/index2.html]Halcion.[/url
Cuteness. From Jazzberry.
Not expecially gay, but I can't plug Kinoko Kaihatsu enough.
I like this one 'cause it reminds me of my fic >.> From Loophole.
SEME MILES, GO!
SEME ODO, GO! From Ohige. Lots of other Uke!Kyouya (with Odo, Hobo, AND Kiri). But I can't post most of those here :B
Because Phoenix can be gay, too.
One of the many lovely pieces at Wan-con. God I wish it would update.
Need source on this like whoa. I LOVES IT.
Sorry I don't have any doujin to share :(
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I need to see what I can find!
EDIT: Actually considering I'm bad a hunting pics, I'll just draw something myself. Badly.
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*save* I'll try to post some, too... If I can find any good ones... hm.
...I hope someone translates my doujins, one day~..
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And to contribute:
Because we all know Pearly reads yaoi doujinshi in her spare time. XDD -shot- (From this site: http://natane.s3.xrea.com/lvx/ )
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I also drew Edgey in a cheerleader outfit once. Cause he can totally pull it off.
Spoiler: Cut cause I draw big.
An image shall be placed here soon! It's in the making :'D
Fanart Thread, hahaha. Story Thread, hahaha.
Fanart Thread, hahaha. Story Thread, hahaha.
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Well, I still have the guilty pleasure of liking Edgey on top just SLIGHTLY more. XD;
I know what you mean ;)
I honestly have never understood the yaoi fangirl obsession with Seme and ukes. It's what annoys me the most about yaoi, personally. There seems to be too much focus on penetration and not enough focus on the sexual equally. At least, that is the yaoi I like.
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Yes, some people are too warped into who dominates who to realize that being equal lovers is very beneficial.
I've become picky about my BL-stuff, I suppose... I now kinda look away, embarrassed, whenever I see some Gravitation fangirls assume that's how all yaoi should be.....
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Like I said, I prefer them reversible, too. But there's time when I like a submissive Phoenix just a little more just because of my weird taste and think it's hot. That's all, really. *shrug* DX
Yes, some people are too warped into who dominates who to realize that being equal lovers is very beneficial.
I've become picky about my BL-stuff, I suppose... I now kinda look away, embarrassed, whenever I see some Gravitation fangirls assume that's how all yaoi should be.....
Yes, some people are too warped into who dominates who to realize that being equal lovers is very beneficial.
I've become picky about my BL-stuff, I suppose... I now kinda look away, embarrassed, whenever I see some Gravitation fangirls assume that's how all yaoi should be.....
If I wanted submission, I'd fap to bondage. :/
And what's BL?
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The shounen-ai, the yaoi...you know, the works. ;D
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I'm also very picky.
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Am I using the term, right? O=
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Also, bedroom politics are part of a relationship too. I don't believe that Phoenix or Edgeworth are incapable or that they don't take either role depending on their mood, just that they probably have a preference. For the impact it has on their relationship outside the bedroom, it might as well be Rocky Road vs Chocolate Chip Mint.
I don't see the harm in discussing and putting forth opinions, though. Hell, considering I've had in depth discussions about how the cast in general would react when faced with Phoenix's porn stash, this is practically downright normal in comparison. No one in this thread has said whoever bottoms is somehow unequal in the relationship. No one has said whoever bottoms is a weepy caricature of themselves. So unless you think a simple discussion of positioning preferences has something to do with inequality...
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But most fans these days are a lot more flexible. There are some people who will always demand "PERSON X WOULD NEVER BOTTOM" but there are just as many who like reversible couples.
Though in the end a lot of the time it has more to do with aesthetics than actual powerplay.
(Also, Gravitation sucks butt)
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With that said, I like Phoenix and Edgeworth both ways, though I like Edgey on top even more.
Let's see if I can scout up some fun P + E stuff. (I had some fun with that in my latest "Error & Trial."
)Edit: God, I hate Gravitation. Shuichi drives me NUTS.
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I've looked at some academic research on it, and the major movement/genre we call slash came about in the 70's in America, along with feminism and all that jazz. Women were sick of the typical male heroes sweeping the damsels in distress off their feet, so they revolutionised their fandoms by pairing, say, Captain Kirk with Spock instead of the girl of the week. The whole thing was very political, and very much about equality.
I think that's why there's a lot of debate and confusion when the western tradition of fandom meets the Japanese tradition of fandom, in anime & games... the Japanese have always had a tradition of gendered storytelling (onna-e and otoko-e are terms for female and male stories produced in the Heian era), but it was also around the 70's and 80's that yaoi and BL started to pick up as genres.
While slash looks outward to politics and society, yaoi is about the individual women... there are theories about the role of the uke. Have you noticed how it's rare that we'll get close-ups of a seme's sex face, but will always get the uke's? It's been said that one of the reasons for the polarisation of the sex roles into categories of seme and uke is so that a woman can identify with the uke and fantasise about a relationship where gender isn't the primary factor that causes inequality in a relationship, as in Japanese society. It's also important to consider that yaoi is considered a fantasy, an escapism, as in the tradition of manga etc, whereas slash is all about being realistic and peverting heterosexual politics. ;3
Bear in mind, that includes a lot of unsubstantiated theories and generalisations, but I guess it explains to me why there's so much debate about yaoi and roles and realism etc.
It was a bit tl;dr but I love this topic and can't help myself when it's raised. :3 I personally approach doujinshi as a romantic sexy romp through the courts and look for yaoi-esque stories when I want a good old fashioned angsty love tale... but when I want something a bit grittier and more realistic I'll put the characters and their personalities before my enjoyment to stay as true to them as possible. It sounds kind of selfish really! I hope that made sense! ^^'
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sarahofcroydon wrote:
I hope that made sense! ^^'
Not really, but it sounded damn cool.
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Sai-Chan wrote:
Since I linked it to the What if Phoenix wore glasses thread, I might as well link it here.
-shakes head- Not worksafe, dudes. (but hay, seme!edgey! 8D)
http://www.savefile.com/files/903766
-shakes head- Not worksafe, dudes. (but hay, seme!edgey! 8D)
http://www.savefile.com/files/903766
That was tame. But sexy nonetheless.
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AS FOR THE GAY, WELL:
Spoiler:
When it comes to seme/uke archetypes, it gets really annoying. I mean, you get some variations (the gentlemanly seme, the lolmanly seme, the shota uke, the weepy uke and the 'spunky' uke) but they're generally all so similar it's like 'Okay...That was like pretty much every other generic BL/Yaoi/Slash fic ever written :/'. Besides, topping from the bottom is so much better, amirite?
(And thanks so much for not, you know, eating my liver at bringing the whole seme/uke thing up, eheheh)
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And the maid outfits are VERY cute. Darling, I must know the source. :3
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sarahofcroydon wrote:
It was a bit tl;dr but I love this topic and can't help myself when it's raised. :3 I personally approach doujinshi as a romantic sexy romp through the courts and look for yaoi-esque stories when I want a good old fashioned angsty love tale... but when I want something a bit grittier and more realistic I'll put the characters and their personalities before my enjoyment to stay as true to them as possible. It sounds kind of selfish really! I hope that made sense! ^^'
Yes, very well said. I understand what you mean about the polotics and differences. I've been in online fandom for 10 years now (not nearly as long as some fans, but it still feels like a long time!) and it's interesting to watch the way fandom changes, and especially how yaoi/slash have grown and mixed and changed each other. And the terminology is still changing all the time.
Though I contend the idea that Slash was ever meant to be "more realistic" than yaoi. They are different kinds of realism, of course, but my friend who started in X-Files fandom has many a horror story of Skinner giving birth to Mulder's baby, or Mulder the "weepy uke" to Krycheck, etc, and these from authors who had nothing to do with yaoi or Japanese fandom. Maybe it was different in the fanzine days, but I haven't been around long enough to know :B
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BL started out MUCH more rigid than it is right now--if you take a look at some of the stuff that's currently popular in Japan, you'll see "seme" and "uke" aren't as differenciated as much as they used to be--but I think your best bet for non-rigid "roles" comes in "manga with male/male romance in it" as opposed to "manga about male/male romance".
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