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So moe for Makoto it's funny.

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Interesting.
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Because I am prone to frequent and random bouts of inspiration, I had some ideas about Kyouya/Rocktra...

Origins: Rocktra came about from Kyouya being around Kirihito for so long- sort of like an infection caused by Kirihito/Sadistress being "infused" with the Power Perfect. As I see it, Rocktra showed up after Sadistress. Maybe Rocktra first "erupted" when Sadi was bullying Kyouya?

Now, maybe this is just my odd interpretation, but I see Rocktra as being of a slightly different nature than Sadistress. Rocktra seems to be more of a "second conscience" (ie. she tends pop out and blurt whatever Kyouya's thinking at the time) than Sadistress is. (Sadi isn't so much what a representative Kirihito is thinking as she is a method of stress release or some business like that.) I'm well aware that that doesn't explain where G-Girl and whatnot come from- maybe when Rocktra had control for a little too long?

As for why Rocktra fights alongside Sadistress... I think it's probably because of intimidation. In my mental drafts, Sadi bullies Rocktra A LOT. Maybe a combination of intimidation and brotherly/sisterly love?

...My ideavomit kinda splintered into pieces when I went to write it down. ._. If I remember anything I missed, I'll edit this post.
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Wargh I keep forgetting to post this here. I came up with a design for Makoto's super suit.

Spoiler: Yes I used Makoto's pose from her official artwork for just a base. So sue me.
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I figured since she IS an artist, her color scheme would be more pastely. I love the idea of the rainbow stockings :keiko:


And I don't think this would be of any use, but here are a few older!Pearl and older!Cody doodles.

Spoiler: This is slowly becoming my new favorite OTP. Srsly.
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I had the idea that Pearl and Cody would be like a love/hate relationship.
Cody is your class bad boy/lazy/arrogant rocker guy while Pearl is the quiet/smart/bookworm/helpless romantic new girl.

Cody of course teases Pearl calling her "stupid", "idiot" or "pretzel-head". Pearl dispises Cody from the start because of his behavior and finds him a nuisance. But as time passes they gradually begin to warm up to each other and eventually become friends...and perhaps something more.
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So adorable, those two. |D

I'm starting to dislike my "lolforms" idea, or maybe my style just isn't suited for a character like Super Makoto. We need to make more of a nod to the "magical girl" genre and I feel your design, LySs, would be a great jumping-off point for that.
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LySs... I really like your outfit design. *nodnod*
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Two weeks (and then some) without any major progress or ideas being contributed! What with the fall semester beating down on various involved people, I've decided that I will have to step up to the plate in making hard, final decisions on some bits and pieces. This will NOT suffer a death by committee!

In the meantime, here's an art batch:


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Another art dump, with some discussion points!
  • Pulsar Adrian's new suit - Adrian was sorely in need of a design change when I realized that her blue leotard, blonde hair, and glasses made her frighteningly indistinguishable from Sadistress! Taking a cue from her GS3/TNT incarnation (and Tron), her suit has been changed to black with glowing blue strips. Now you can really see light and energy pulse throughout her body!
  • Dahlia concepts 1 - Dahlia concepts 2 - Attempting to take cues from Emma Frost (aka the White Queen of Marvel comics), Dahlia's design is still going though the conceptual phases. Cloaks, corsets, and such are the order of the day, but Dahlia's diminuitive and slim frame are a challenge to accessorize without overshadowing.
  • Daian is the Hairaiser - Introducing our newest villain! Daian Mayudzuki's hair does more than look ridiculous (and launch itself like a rocket), he can transform it into a literal weapon!
  • Name and Pose - HAIRAISER. It just doesn't get cheesier than that.
  • Cheesy Lines - Okay, maybe it does. Here are some really bad puns and cheesy lines for Hairaiser's opening taunt.
  • Super mode (w/ Lydia) - Taking the hair concept a little too far, Hairaiser is covered in hair armor, but how many shapeshifting tentacle blacknesses can there be in one superhero universe?
  • GREAP attack - Borrowing from Super Smash Bros Brawl, the Hairaiser whips out a double-bladed GREAP attack.

What was Lydia doing cosplaying in the second-to-last picture? She was doing what she does best: cosplaying. A novice superhero with debatable efficacy, Lydia is hyperactive and indecisive, constantly switching outfits and movesets as she tries to find what kind of superhero identity would fit her best. Often she ends up mimicking existing supers, and this can land her in all kinds of trouble... such as when she's implicated as the suspect in a high-profile case!

Enter Kyouya Garyuu, brave prosecutor and pursuer of truth and justice. A "real life hero," Kyouya has always taken his job as a prosecuting attorney seriously, but for a long time something has been troubling him... he has gained the ability to transform into Rocktra and wield unique superpowers! Unable to reconcile his dual identity, he has kept it a secret from everyone, especially his overbearing brother, Kirihito. Upon hearing that the defendant in this case is in fact a "superhero" herself, he becomes curious...

Another day, another trial, another turnabout. The diligent Kyouya unveils the truth and proves Lydia's innocence, while dragging out the real culprit. He befriends Lydia and immediately begins questioning her about what it means to be a superhero, eventually able to apply himself as a hero not just in the courtroom, but also in battle against supervillains.

Lydia eventually discovers that cosplaying is her superpower, and by donning different costumes she can take on entirely different attitudes and powers. Still as ADHD as ever, though, she chooses a different costume each night when she goes out to help her fellow superheroes, but it's not always the right one for the job...

- - - - -

Yes, Rocktra is no longer a supervillain paired off with Sadistress. In fact, she acts opposite Sadistress. Two brothers, two supervillainesses, locked in a struggle between justice and evil. Fate works in such mysterious ways...

On the horizon: major site revamp, more villain designs, more writing, more more more!
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Here's the SMako-related chatlog for that night.

Also.

ARR, IT BE TALK-LIKE-A-PIRATE DAY, YE LANDLUBBERS.

Spoiler: BOOTY... wait what?
(6) Sami-Fire > ...Wasn't there a plan for Lydia to be a "recap girl" of some sort? (...Wait, that's not the plot. Sorry, give me a moment...)
(7) Gigafreak > Yeah. SMako Channel.
(7) Gigafreak > Summarizes the plot at the end, intro or intermission of some chapters
(6) Sami-Fire > And of course, recaps.
(7) Gigafreak > Whenever the plot demands it.
(3) Tril > Also, randomly eating souls >__>
(7) Gigafreak > Only in the LydiEmpusa chapter.
(3) Tril > Wouldn't she, like...not be around to recap after said event? >>
(7) Gigafreak > (Heck, maybe it was just Viola messing around again, and summoned it with Lydia's body as the Empusa's vessel.)
(6) Sami-Fire > Eh? That was implemented...?
(3) Tril > Well, I assumed it was Viola to begin with
(7) Gigafreak > Possibly by accident. Possibly because Lydia went there asking for "some ways to increase ratings."
(7) Gigafreak > I dunno if it was implemented
(1) MSOB > like magick boob formula
(6) Sami-Fire > Sounds about right.
(7) Gigafreak > And poof, LydiEmpusa for the day
(7) Gigafreak > The plot for that episode revolves around exorcising her without hurting her
(7) Gigafreak > Maybe.
(3) Tril > Also, nawt Succubus no more? 8u
(1) MSOB > Only in Disgaea
(7) Gigafreak > She's only "Default" like that in her Disgaea fanon... which might be canon what with custom characters
(1) MSOB > Aside from SMakoChan, I felt my best idea was that Lydia was an avid cosplayer and fangirl
(2) Lydia > omfg, Cosplayer yes.
(1) MSOB > Maybe she's a wannabe superheroine but is indecisive and hyper and likes to try on all different kinds of costumes and movesets
(6) Sami-Fire > *idea!* Or maybe even a helpful-hint girl? Ohwaitthat'stoomuchinvideogamecontext.
(3) Tril > Oh lord.
(1) MSOB > And, in truth, that IS her superpower - mimicking other superheroes (and adding twists of her own)
(6) Sami-Fire > That's kind of like Narikiri Dungeon. XD
(1) MSOB > So she's never using the same moveset/costume between episodes
(7) Gigafreak > So she's Sal Manella minus the fugly, plus the awesome
(6) Sami-Fire > Wear a costume, gain that person's powers.
(3) Tril > ....ew, Giga X_X
(1) MSOB > Ew.
(1) MSOB > Giga.
(1) MSOB > CORNER.
(1) MSOB > *points to the moldy, decrepit and uncared for corner that hasn't been maintained by dulla for a while*


(2) Lydia > we're still trying to figure out Rocktra.. right?
(6) Sami-Fire > Yeah...
(2) Lydia > have we decided WHAT she is? neutral evil.. good? what?
(1) MSOB > I really don't think Kyouya would team up with his evil bitch brother
(2) Lydia > Plus the fact, I'd imagine kiri would take his anger out on Kyouya
(1) MSOB > Actually it's quite possible they could be nemeses
(2) Lydia > since they grew up together
(7) Gigafreak > Hrmm... Sadi is chaotic... neutral when you get right down to it
(1) MSOB > on opposite sides of the law...
(6) Sami-Fire > (I think that Sadistress forces Rocktra to come along by bullying her... lots of bullying in my drafts.)
(2) Lydia > yeah
(7) Gigafreak > Rocktra would be lawful neutral then?
(2) Lydia > Listen
(2) Lydia > In my HONEST oppinion..
(2) Lydia > Rocktra/Kyouya
(2) Lydia > WOULDN'T be on the evil side
(2) Lydia > just because of Bullying
(2) Lydia > think about it.
(2) Lydia > Bullying would only make him more upset and want to stay as far away as possible
(2) Lydia > why would he want to become the thing he probably dislikes the most.
(1) MSOB > It would make more sense if they kept their super identities a secret from each other anyway x_x
(1) MSOB > Kyouya IS a prosecutor for great justice after all
(6) Sami-Fire > (...In that case, if Sadi and Rocktra know each other, the memories of encountering each other would probably be buried in the depths of their brains that aren't accessible by their male forms.)
(6) Sami-Fire > (I suppose at some point there'd be a leak, though.)
(7) Gigafreak > Actually, so long as neither sees the other in the midst of genderswap, they could go on not-suspecting anything
(1) MSOB > Sadi vs Rocktra would just result in rivalry, but they can't make any connection as to what their alter egos are, really
(1) MSOB > No need for memoryswappin'
(1) MSOB > What giga said
(7) Gigafreak > As for the fact that they're the only two people on the planet with drillhair?
(7) Gigafreak > SAILOR MOON EXPLANATION
(7) Gigafreak > ...Nobody seems to notice.
(1) MSOB > Hey hey
(6) Sami-Fire > "Wait a minute, is that- nah, couldn't be."
(7) Gigafreak > Preeeetty much
(1) MSOB > drill hair is a pretty popular hairstyle since GWave hit it big


(7) Gigafreak > Rocktra.... hmm.
(7) Gigafreak > *Imagining Rocktra showing up NOT to fight, but only to provide Dramatic Battle Musics*
(2) Lydia > Dude, she fights like ember.
(3) Tril > "Kyo: All of the band members are involved with law inforcement. And they're superheroes." "Apollo:...what's -your- power?" "Kyo:...IZ A SEKRIT. 8/"
(2) Lydia > from Danny Phantom d00d



(7) Gigafreak > ....Ah... I just imagined what ELSE Daian can do with that hair...
(8) SephiCloud > Something... else? O,o
(3) Tril > o-o;
(7) Gigafreak > Fiddle.
(6) Sami-Fire > ...Uh oh- NOOOOOO
(2) Lydia > GIGA.
(7) Gigafreak > *Sits in corner*
(6) Sami-Fire > Except, of course, he'd be the GOOD fiddler.
(6) Sami-Fire > GROUPIES AND SHITE FOLKS. GROUPIES.
(6) Sami-Fire > YOU JUST CAN'T FORGET THEM, NYER.
(3) Tril > I always imagined Gant and Daian would be swimming buddies. Daian IS supposed to be a shark, after all. >_____>
(8) SephiCloud > Gant: Daian, mah boy...
(7) Gigafreak > (What have I done)
(8) SephiCloud > Daian: .... O_o huh?
(8) SephiCloud > Gant: You'll soon find out XD HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOO


(1) MSOB > Villain!Rocktra is officially discontinued.
(1) MSOB > ROCKTRA JOINED YOUR PARTY.
(1) MSOB > So
(1) MSOB > Hairaiser is go?
(6) Sami-Fire > (To Makoto?) "She's trying to lead you down the path of skankiness! I'm gonna lead you down the path that ROCKS!"
(7) Gigafreak > Hey diddle diddle, the Gant loves to fiddle, Mako jumped over the moon. The Pearldickie laughed to see such a sight as the Lyss made things go kaboom.


(6) Sami-Fire > (...The "Sadistress antagonizing Rocktra" bit can still be implemented, even though Rockta's undergone an alignment shift?"
(1) MSOB > Pretty much
(7) Gigafreak > If anything, it'd fuel Rocktra's preference for Good And Fluffy
(1) MSOB > good
(1) MSOB > and fluffy
(1) MSOB > AND PINK
(16) Yuukichu > AND
(7) Gigafreak > PINK'D
(16) Yuukichu > IT SUPORTS MY THEORY
(16) Yuukichu > THAT ROCKTRA AND MA ARE TOTALLY BFF
(7) Gigafreak > ...But... MA is listed on the Villains section/...
(6) Sami-Fire > (Ah, speaking of MA... shouldn't she and Aiga technically be neutral?)
(6) Sami-Fire > ...It's Moonlight Angel, right? X_X
(16) Yuukichu > yesh
(1) MSOB > Yeah, it hasn't seen an update in aaaaaaaaaages.
(3) Tril > We need a way to make Aiga villainous, honestly.
(16) Yuukichu > But Aiga's evil...XD so
(16) Yuukichu > Guilt by association
(3) Tril > Not -srsly- evil, but...
(7) Gigafreak > Eccentricist is a sort of mercenary-engineer, so...
(1) MSOB > capitalism is bad >:O
(16) Yuukichu > ? GUILTY BY ASSOCIATIOOOOON?
(1) MSOB > The proletariat demands it
(6) Sami-Fire > Rocktra: "WHY CAN'T I FINE ANY SHIRTS THAT MATCH" *sees a bunch of ripped shirts* "SAAAADDDIIIIIIIII ;____;"
(6) Sami-Fire > *find
(3) Tril > Just to give his special supervillain name more meaning, he should actually DO stuff, tho 8/
(7) Gigafreak > "WHY ARE YOU WRECKING OUR TOWN" "How else should I beta-test my battlemech!?"
(8) SephiCloud > XD
(6) Sami-Fire > Sounds about right. XD
(3) Tril > I was thinking he could traipse around in his big battlemech and steal MOAR MOON ROKS so he can keep Yuu alive 8U
(1) MSOB > MAGICK BOOB FORMULA.
(8) SephiCloud > wtf, magic boobs huh?
(1) MSOB > "WHY ARE YOU STEALING OUR MOONROKS." "IZ SEKRIT."
(1) MSOB > OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND
(16) Yuukichu > AND THEN YUU STEALS SUM
(8) SephiCloud > WHUT, 9000?
(8) SephiCloud > THAT'S NOT POSSIBLLLLEEEE
(3) Tril > @Yuu- And Zaza arrests her? XPP
(3) Tril > "Yuu: Fission mailed :<"
(16) Yuukichu > OHSHI-
(7) Gigafreak > And SHE drags HIM off by his handcuffs
(16) Yuukichu > XD
(16) Yuukichu > OH YEAH BABY
(6) Sami-Fire > ...(Actually, the Guilt by Association doesn't work for Yuu, or Shannon should be on the evil side... waitnevermind)


(1) MSOB > Oh! Okay, I'll give everyone the new concept right now.
(1) MSOB > OK, listen up, here's our new deal with Heroic Rocktra
(6) Sami-Fire > *listens up* Be sure to remind me every so often, my memory is bad...
(1) MSOB > Kyouya is a "real life hero" by day as a prosecutor, and a pursuer of truth and justice, but something happens that makes him turn into Rocktra at odd times.
(1) MSOB > At first confused by all this, he doesn't know what to do with his superpowered form, until a case where he must prosecute an "amateur superhero"
(3) Tril > So...since Kristoph and Sadi are seperate entities, what about Konrad and Rocktra? >>
(6) Sami-Fire > (...I was thinking Rocktra is sort of like a second conscience, maybe...? As in, sometimes she says stuff that's on Kyouya's mind. She's not as segregated from Kyouya as Kiri is from Sadi.)
(1) MSOB > Lydia, the defendant in question, is a struggling wannabe superhero who is constantly switching costumes, movesets, and superhero identities (in fact never shows up in court under the same name, excep
(1) MSOB > Indecisive and out of control, she eventually lands herself in a tricky spot where she has been implicated of a crime.
(6) Sami-Fire > (...ANd let me check this real fast before I jot this down... did we decide if Kiri and Kyouya know of each other's entities? I was thinking that, either way, the entities would know each other but ke
(1) MSOB > Kyouya does the right thing and proves her innocence, revealing the true culprit. Lydia is forever thankful for not only saving her life but saving her reputation as a superhero (she has none)
(6) Sami-Fire > *keep the memory from the other side.)
(6) Sami-Fire > (I likes that idea.)
(3) Tril > And then..."Viola: Hai Lydia I've got this awesome costume for you! :D" "Lydia: O rly? :D" "-insert carnage and soul eating-"
(1) MSOB > Lydia and Kyouya befriend each other, and Kyouya bashfully asks Lydia to show him the ropes of being a superhero so he might harness his superpowers
(2) Lydia > and she's all -CUTESMILE- KAY~
(16) Yuukichu > which eventually leads to a ?SEXY ADVENTURE?
(6) Sami-Fire > (Is Lydia the only one who knows of Rocktra aside from Sadi at first?)
(2) Lydia > Yeah.
(7) Gigafreak > Know of Rocktra's existence, or know of Rocktra's connection to Kyouya?
(6) Sami-Fire > Both.
(2) Lydia > Both. i'd assume.
(2) Lydia > yeah
(2) Lydia > Because think about it
(2) Lydia > if they become close friends
(6) Sami-Fire > Kyouya trusts Lydia with that secret.
(2) Lydia > especially revealing her identity to him..the shouldn't keep secrets.
(2) Lydia > I mean amongst themselves
(2) Lydia > but yes.
(2) Lydia > they**


(7) Gigafreak > Lost stuff that happened before the maintenance
(7) Gigafreak > Sal Manella. Does he still exist, and what are his powers
(6) Sami-Fire > I think we more or less restated everything here- oh, that.
(1) MSOB > Well, there's still the original concept that was stored in the SMako thread
(1) MSOB > Sal as a WoW raid leader....
(6) Sami-Fire > I figured he'd be a poor mimic of the people he Otakus over... Much worse off than Lydia.

(16) Yuukichu > Yuu: DAIAN I NEED HAIR TIPS K
(3) Tril > "Daian: Put penises on it. :D" "Yuu:....8/"
(16) Yuukichu > Yuu: But I has a veevee


(2) Lydia > SOMEONE.
(2) Lydia > GIVE ME A COSTUME IDEA
(2) Lydia > FOR ONE OF LYDIA"S COSPLAY ALIASES.
(6) Sami-Fire > Costume Idea for who? Lydia?
(16) Yuukichu > HARAJUKU MEETS BISHOUJO SENSHI MEETS GUNDAM
(16) Yuukichu > -shot-
(1) MSOB > Well, what's she cosplaying as?
(2) Lydia > OH GOD
(6) Sami-Fire > ...Except that Lydia would more or less have the same outfit as someone else?
(2) Lydia > that's just It, I don't know
(2) Lydia > LOL IN COURT SHE DRESSES UP AS YOUNGER KYOUYA
(1) MSOB > LIGHTSPEED.
(6) Sami-Fire > ...She has a magic changing closet where all of her costumes are hidden, Narikir style.
(1) MSOB > No, no, when she shows up in court she shows up as...
(1) MSOB > ...
(1) MSOB > MIA.
(2) Lydia > OMFG
(6) Sami-Fire > ...I'm channeling WAY too much Narikiri here...
(2) Lydia > YES.
(2) Lydia > LOL
(16) Yuukichu > CLASSIC CARTOON CLICHE
(16) Yuukichu > make her like Superman
(16) Yuukichu > she just RIPS HER SHIRT OPEN
(16) Yuukichu > HOAAAAAAAAARGH
(2) Lydia > LOLNO.
(16) Yuukichu > CAN I HAS A FANSERVICES PLS
(6) Sami-Fire > *sees all the costume ideas flying around*
(3) Tril > GANT COSTUME @_@
(2) Lydia > LOOOOL
(2) Lydia > She probably wouldn't crossplay. even though I do.
(3) Tril > "Lydia: I GOT SUM TENTACLES, KYO~" "Kyo:...%_%"
(3) Tril > Run, Konrad, run! D:
(2) Lydia > KONRADICAL~
(2) Lydia > Would you draw some costume idea for me~
(1) MSOB > Which one? x_x
(2) Lydia > anyone
(2) Lydia > anyone you feel like
(6) Sami-Fire > ...Why wouldn't she just wear altered versions of someone else's costume?
(1) MSOB > hmhm
(1) MSOB > Basically, yeah
(6) Sami-Fire > Or are you looking for a default?
(2) Lydia > NO.
(2) Lydia > NEVER
(16) Yuukichu > OHSHI-
(1) MSOB > SAL IS NOT A COSPLAYER
(1) MSOB > HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT
(2) Lydia > SAL IS NONE OF THE SORT.
(18) ButzF@*# > I HOPE NOT ><
(3) Tril > Also- is Lydia having of not being von Karma in this? Or does she just...not like to hang out in the magical other world? >>
(1) MSOB > Um.
(1) MSOB > I guess she's not a von Karma in SMako.
(2) Lydia > She'll probably NOT be a von karma here.
(6) Sami-Fire > SAL IS NOT A COSPLAYER.
(6) Sami-Fire > HE'S ONE OF THOSE WEIRD FREAKS DOING BAD HADOKEN IMPRESSIONS OR SOMETHING.


(18) ButzF@*# > Tomorrow is Talk like a Pirate Day, already?
(7) Gigafreak > Yeah
(1) MSOB > MSOBeard?
(3) Tril > We must plan for our special pirate episode of SMako |D
(18) ButzF@*# > That's a good one Bee! =)
(2) Lydia > WHAT WOULD LYDIA'S PIRATE FORM LOOK LIKE.
(2) Lydia > THAT'S IT, BEE. DO IT. NOW. XDD;
(16) Yuukichu > PIRATE.
(2) Lydia > JUST KIDDING
(16) Yuukichu > I can use a design I had for a pirate OC I made once.
(2) Lydia > I can do it.. Later.. XD;
(1) MSOB > o_O
(16) Yuukichu > -sorta misses playing her too-
(3) Tril > o-0
(1) MSOB > Uh, what was I supposed to do again.


Meep. I think I cut out some of the wrong lines...
Sticks and stones may break my bones...
But a giant mallet will break them faster.
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Sadistress gets a costume redesign, too.

Spoiler: Comparison of old vs new
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Spoiler: Red. Red. *Red*. *Red*, Charlie boy. *Red*! Is the color of sex! Burgundy is the color of hot water bottles! Red is the color of sex and fear and danger and signs that say, Do. Not. Enter. All my favorite things in life."
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I neglected to post this.
I don't know what happened.
Spoiler: Magical Minuki/Trumpcard Trucy doodle
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Collab between myself and Giga. :3

....Do we HAVE to change her name to Trucy? :<
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I really don't know to what extent we'll localize Super Makoto.

Especially concerning the protagonist... we'll just have to take a vote on which names we like as they come up.

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A list of characters implemented in SMako (officially and unofficially) with Japanese and American name "conflicts", if they have 'em. The name first adopted into SMako nomenclature is given first. In no specific order.
  • First SMako usage / Alternate localisation -- SMako Super Alias
  • Makoto Ese / ?? -- Super Makoto
  • Takita Kitaki / ??
  • Doburoku Ese / ??
  • Kirihito Garyuu / Kristoph Gavin -- Sadistress
  • Kyouya Garyuu / Konrad Gavin (EU) -- Rocktra
  • Apollo Justice / Housuke Odoroki -- Apollo Justice (AJ is a special case, as both names have been officially assigned to him)
  • Daian Mayudzuki / ?? -- Hairaiser
  • Souryuu Kaminogi / Diego Armando -- Le Comte du Cafe Cristo, Shadow Cell
  • Yuusaku Amasugi / Ron DeLite -- Kamen Mask / Mask☆DeMasque
  • Desirée DeLite / Mareka Amasugi -- DDD
  • Aiga Hoshiidake / Luke Atmey -- The Eccentrist
  • Minuki / Trucy -- Magical Minuki / Trumpcard Trucy
  • Urami Shikabane / Viola Cadaverini
  • Zenitora / Furio Tigre
  • Chinami / Dahlia
  • Ayame / Iris
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Art Dump, la la
  • New Design for Chinami/Dahlia - One Two - Her shawl has evolved into a cloak/poncho, her light pink palette recalling the image of an innocent little girl. Revealing herself, however, shows her true nature - the upper part of her skirt shifts to red, like a bloodstained apron, and her corset top is striped red and black. She wears the Red Magatama she "acquired" from Mia in Bolginia, and also hides a blade inside her parasol.
  • The Forgotten Tower - Originally done for shits and giggles, this vignette takes a quote from Diablo II that describes the fate of one particularly vile Countess. This invited others to contemplate the idea of Chinami being Really Seven Hundred Years Old, like some ancient evil that was locked up inside the earth beneath Hazakurain. But what does that make her twin sister, Ayame/Iris? Just a concept to think about...
  • Notes on Repast - Just sketching out Repast's anatomy. Decided to make his one wing more arm-like, such that it acts much like a third arm or prehensile tail, as well as a vestigial wing. Using that and his left arm, he can clamber over obstacles easily while shielding himself with his right. Neat, huh?
  • Vengeance is all that remains - I gotta admit, Shadow Cell looks a lot more like Solid Snake than he does Simon Fisher. And if we go with the localised name of Diego Armando, we're gonna have a Hispanic ninja on our hands. That would be fucking awesome.
  • Xel'lotath's Black Guardian - It was late at night and I wanted to have a shot of Takita taking potshots at a giant monster (you know, stepping in to be the hero when he shouldn't). I was strapped for ideas and decided to use Urami/Viola as the summoner of a Black Guardian from the Eternal Darkness video game for Nintendo Gamecube. Hardcore!


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Little update about art links.

Since I am no longer hotlinking the oekaki screencaps in the posts, I will need a new way to present SMako artwork in this thread. I will be beginning to archive edited screencaps on the SMako website...

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LA LA ART DUMP CHA LA
  • Ace Attorney styled Super Makoto logo by Gigafreak - Inspired by the idea that Makoto's main weapon is an art pen of some sort.
  • Super Makoto takes flight by MoronSonOfBoron - [color=yellow]I've decided that we'll go with a Magical Girl theme for Makoto's costume.[/url] For the time being, I'm borrowing LySs' design for all future drawings of Makoto. (More designs are welcomed, but now we'll just keep it to a Magical Girl theme).
  • A Sadistress in Kirihito's Clothing / Costumes for Lydia by MoronSonOfBoron and Minuki - Just some conceptual sketches and such. And boobs.
  • GG Cosplay with Rocktra and Lydia - Okay, seriously, everyone who hasn't played Guilty Gear needs to play it NOW. *hangs head in shame*
  • Shinycurvy Sadi by Yuu-chan - She picked up this style from another deviantART user and has been experimenting with it. Suits Sadistress rather nicely ("Oh, but doesn't everything, darling?")
  • Shiny Makoto - Shiny VenoMakoto - Shiny VenoMakoto with Soulshawl - All by Yuu-chan. Behold the transformation!
  • VenoMakoto stares into your soul - Naked - Both by MoronSonOfBoron, yours truly. Doesn't she look delicious(ly sinister)?
  • Hobocop vs Shadow Cell by MSOB - rofl chestguns wut
  • Venom Redd by MSOB - Here's where it gets interesting. I'm now playing with the idea that Venom is actually a manifestation of Manfred von Karma's Power Perfect. He can use it to corrupt and conquer other beings. Unable to influence Earth directly, he dropped the Black Nail Polish into Makoto's lap in the hopes that she would become his agent of destruction. Here, we see Redd using the power granted him by Emperor von Karma. He's invincible now... or is he?
  • Makoto Corrupted by MSOB - Here's where it gets REALLY interesting. After the first manifestation of Venom Makoto, Makoto discovers that she can still use the power of the Black Nail Polish. By invoking it in small doses, she can temporarily become superpowerful, but using it too much or for too long will lead to it attempting to "corrupt" her system again, and she will slowly lose her free will. At this point she needs the help of her friends to shake her out of it (by force or by reasoning). Yes, this concept is stolen straight out of Metroid Prime 3. Deal with it.
  • Meeting of Shadows by MSOB - Is she named Urami or Viola? Either way, it's not her -real- name, as she is really an extradimensional entity from a dark realm. Here she has summoned (been visited by?) a fellow darkling by the pseudonym of Joe... If you ask them what they're talking about, the response would be "Not for you to know, mortal."
  • Neon Makoto by MSOB - Using LySs' design again.
  • CosStar - MSOB, Minuki, Yuu-chan - HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER. After finally discovering her "true" power as a hero-mimicking, er, superhero, Lydia becomes CosStar. Always armed with her luggage full of magic costumes, she's ready to take on nearly any challenge. These are only basic concepts at the moment.
  • CosStar in Cow Costume by Minuki - It was bound to happen.
  • Eccentrist Mech Pilot - Yuu-chan drew the mech, MSOB drew the Eccentrist. What, isn't a mad scientist allowed to kick a little ass every now and then? In any case, this is the giant robot Eccentrist pulls out when people are less than forthcoming with the supply of moonrocks to keep Moonlight Angel alive.
  • Design notes for Eccentrist - Yuu-chan drew up the clothing beneath the white suit of the Eccentrist. Aiga takes on a darker tone with the red shirt and black vest. His monocle is built-in with technology that lets him track, analyze, and scan his targets and surroundings.
  • The Young Mask by Yuu-chan - The Old Mask by MSOB - Yuu-chan decided on a color scheme for SMako's Mask*DeMasque superhero, as well. Unfortunately, his svelte, athletic self will rarely be seen in SMako's main story... what you'll get to see is the broader beer-belly Mask, and his beloved bottle of booze.
  • Eccentrist busts out a mech again by Gigafreak - As a stopgap measure, the Eccentrist puts Moonlight Angel into a... hamster ball... to prevent her from coming to any further harm while she is weakened. He then proceeds to stomp about town looking for moonrocks.
  • The Final Battle by MSOB - Again, ripped out of Metroid Prime 3. Breaking into the Super Dimensional Fortress of Emperor Manfred von Karma, Makoto must face Manfred in his ultimate form. The Emperor is allowed a monologue, of course - he dreams of "a universe devoid of color... of imperfection!" (Recommended listening for atmospheric effect - Rundas Battle - Metroid Prime 3)


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The site's getting a facelift. BOOKMARK UPDATES AND BROKEN LINKS AHOY!

http://xpsyx.com/SuperMako/

For now, there's just a simple splash page chronicling the beginnings of the project, and where it's come to now...
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  • Moonlight Angel makes a last stand - Every hero faces a battle that looks like it could be their last.
  • Super Makoto "Quetzal" costume - Not as rainbow colored as the serpent of legend, I attempted my own take on the magical girl theme we all agreed upon. I failed horribly.
  • Super Makoto "Wing" costume - Exaggerated ribbon FTW
  • Young Mask - Ron in his black/green getup design for SMako.
  • Meet the Mask - Makoto and Yuu go looking for the retired superhero Mask*DeMasque, and upon finding his house, mistake Mareka to be Mask's secret identity. Ron would get up and say something but his beer can is still half-full.
  • Super Makoto for Nintendo DS - Just a silly idea I came up with. The DS, held book-style lets the player use the touchscreen as a sketchpad while moving Makoto around in the topscreen (using either the D pad or ABXY).
  • Moonlight Angel mechsuit - When short on celestial power, MA dons a mechsuit designed by the Eccentrist.
  • Yuu's Super Makoto design - A new magical girl costume for Super Makoto. Trés chic.
  • The Guildmaster attacks - Sal Manella calls his crew into action.
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  • Sadistress - Back in her blue suit. I don't think the red really suits her (we're just too used to her being in Kristoph's blue!)
  • SPARTA! - FUCK YEAH!
  • Makoto's Sketchbook - It exudes magick!
  • Guildmaster Antics - When Sal is damaged, little numbers display over his head. His ultimate summon is the dreaded Galaxy Cat, unfortunately the omnipotent feline is less than accurate...
  • SHOPPING! - The girls take their favorite boys out...
  • Moonlight - First one to say "moon prism power" gets a Falcon Punch in uterus.
  • The Emperor's Granddaughter's New Clothes - Venom Makoto gets a bit of a makeover. Instead of a corset top and skirt, she now wears a slender, strapless dress with a billowing hemline and finely embroidered seams. Provocative!
  • Dark Makoto by LforLotta - Fishnet weave vest... kinda metalhead.
  • Makoto vs Hairaiser - It's like a Sonic Rush boss fight.
  • Before the Guinness - Just some cute Mask.
  • Taste the Rainbow - Trapped by von Karma, Makoto feels the corrupting power of the Venom encroaching upon her. She unleashes the last bit of her power, revealing that the Venom inside her body had been transmuted by her power: it's not true black, it's a black formed by all colors combined! Von Karma is powerless to resist the colorful onslaught.
  • Funny Family - Makoto shares a tender moment with her mother and mother.

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New, minimal, easy-to-read, the site is back, with a populated character gallery. Check out the new and improved smooth, undithered rollover GIFs (and there's one completely new one - can you spot it?).

Coming next:
  • New character pages (with localized names!).
  • A credits page
  • Refurbished chatlogs page

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Can we get an evil Dee/Morgan Geisha person?
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Hahaha, I thought you'd show up sooner or later, Erica.

We haven't quite found how to fit Morgan into the storyline (the Feys play a major role, of course). As it stands, those of the Fey bloodline are supposedly inheritors of some great power, a good portion of which (or the secret to it) is sealed inside three Magatama. Dahlia killed Mia for one of these, and is now seeking Maya and Pearl to gain the other two pieces. Once she attains the complete power of the Magatama, she plans to ascend and unite with the evil Emperor Manfred von Karma. If you have any ideas on this front, let me know.

Dee Vasquez will probably be reserved for a "generic villain" slot much like Repast, the Guildmaster, and Hairaiser, rather than being deeply involved with the overarcing storylines. Again, if there are any ideas out there for what kind of supervillain Dee could be, send them in.

For now, I'd like to turn people's attention to the new features of the website.

  • The Character Gallery - This is actually a rough form of the Character Gallery - when it is completed, each character portrait will be flanked by links to the character's profile and their art page.
  • Character Profile - This is a bare-bones character profile. As you can see, it retains much of the same setup as the previous version. We're still missing a lot of profiles, and a lot of them need to be localised for T&T standards - hop to it, people!
  • Art Page - In the future, each character will have an individual art page featuring all the art that features them (solo and groupshots). The art is seperated into three categories - illustration, sprites, and oekaki. More will be added as necessary.

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Could Somone please outline the storyline? I would Start To Join In But I don't Know What Is Happening
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I really should work on a barebones outline of the story and timeline. There's so many details we haven't solidified yet! \(O_o)/
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Hahaha, I thought you'd show up sooner or later, Erica.

We haven't quite found how to fit Morgan into the storyline (the Feys play a major role, of course). As it stands, those of the Fey bloodline are supposedly inheritors of some great power, a good portion of which (or the secret to it) is sealed inside three Magatama. Dahlia killed Mia for one of these, and is now seeking Maya and Pearl to gain the other two pieces. Once she attains the complete power of the Magatama, she plans to ascend and unite with the evil Emperor Manfred von Karma. If you have any ideas on this front, let me know.

Dee Vasquez will probably be reserved for a "generic villain" slot much like Repast, the Guildmaster, and Hairaiser, rather than being deeply involved with the overarcing storylines. Again, if there are any ideas out there for what kind of supervillain Dee could be, send them in.

For now, I'd like to turn people's attention to the new features of the website.

  • The Character Gallery - This is actually a rough form of the Character Gallery - when it is completed, each character portrait will be flanked by links to the character's profile and their art page.
  • Character Profile - This is a bare-bones character profile. As you can see, it retains much of the same setup as the previous version. We're still missing a lot of profiles, and a lot of them need to be localised for T&T standards - hop to it, people!
  • Art Page - In the future, each character will have an individual art page featuring all the art that features them (solo and groupshots). The art is seperated into three categories - illustration, sprites, and oekaki. More will be added as necessary.


Morgan could be the evil geisha, who is also looking for the shards. Kinda like Sheena Fujibayashi and Colette Brunel in Tales Of Symphonia: See, both wanted to save their worlds, Colette goes to the seals, and Sheena follows pursuit to kill her. Get it? So Morgan could want the other shards... And she already has killed Elise and Bikini...!
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This project is so amazing I couldn't help but read all of the previous pages just to see where it went.

I, unfortunately, lack any kind of artistic talent, so I'm not sure how I might contribute, but take my admiration anyway.

A couple random Dahlia/Chinami/Iris ideas:

If you wanted Dahlia to be Really Seven Hundred Years Old, she might be (probably in spectral tentacle hair form) a psychic manifestation of the bitterness of the branch family, who tend to be weaker in Magatama based power than, and thus suboordinate to, the branch family. Iris might be somehow possessed by Spectral!Dahlia, perhaps as one of Morgan's plots. Ex: A union with Emperor von Karma and one of her offspring seems like something Morgan would want (increasing the clan's power and influence), so she allowed Dahlia to possess Iris and go hunting the Magatama pieces to increase her prospects in the eyes of the Emperor. Spectral!Dahlia for her part, wants to possess th resultant child and thus have both Fey power (which is psychic in nature?) and the Power Perfect.

Another shorter idea, without the 700 year old bit: What if the reason no one has attempted to gather all the pieces of the Magatama together before was that possessing more than one's "birth share" not only gave increased power, but also caused proportional insanity?

Dahlia and Iris could then be Morgan's twins, but with Dahlia having the powers for both, and thus being insane, and constantly wanting more power. She would go about getting this by killing all the other Feys as outlined, and attempting to steal a bit of the Power Perfect in uniting with von Karma Sr. Morgan is the same as above and willing to go along with this for glory, power, or (insert alternate reason).

Hopefully, these are moderately interesting and that I didn't miss any huge features of SMakoto already established in spawning them.
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Yeah, we're definitely trying to figure out Dahlia and Iris' position in all this.

I think we'll actually be going with a mortal Dahlia, rather than a spectral one.

Involving Morgan in the plot is a great idea, but I think her level of machination far outstrips Dahlia's - enough to earn her a slot next to von Karma. Wouldn't you agree? Especially since she "uses" her daughters for her own ends (possibly could give us space to explore the sisters' relationship with each other?).
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I totally agree with you on Morgan, she's pretty much as Machiavellian as they come. Perhaps she would take advantage of Dahlia's desire for power by telling her that by unifying with von Karma she would obtain some portion of the Power Perfect, which is a lie, but the resultant child would give Morgan about as much influence as she could want.

As for Iris, I though of her being much as she is in regular PW, a restraining influence on Dahlia, and the only one for whom Dahlia really feels any attachment. I envisioned at least one part of the Makoto & Friends battle where Dahlia charges up some super attack of DOOM after everyone is exhausted from fighting her (with appropriate cheesy finishing lines) but hesitates for a moment when (pick a character, but probably Godot) hurls Iris in front of her path. This momentary pause is then enough for some form of power perfect counterattack to be launched.

Also, there's the problem of how to integrate Dahlia and her general nastiness into the "magical girl" genre, where villains are either not irredeemably evil, totally evil such that they have no humanity at all (von Karma) or giant tentacle monsters (at least I think that's how MG anime generally works). That's part of why I like the "Fey power may cause insanity in high doses" idea, because if Makoto, uses the HAX of the Power Perfect to remove Dahlia's powers, you get a MG happy-ish ending as the sisters can "reunite" now that Dahlia is sane. which fits SMako's lighter tone fairly well.
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The question is: how does Pearl fit into this? After all, in-game Morgan was pretty much motivated by wanting Pearl to be the next Master, so...
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I think the idea was that Pearl had one of the three special magatama. I haven't thought up of anything else to involve her other than that... which is a little bit stupid, come to think of it. :$

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Update on Morgan Fey:

Right now we're headed towards having Morgan masterminding alongside Manfred, thus putting her at a position above Dahlia (pulling her strings, and Iris' too). This also opens up the opportunity of Morgan playing the "mommy card" when it comes to Pearl, possibly turning her against her friends in some manner (probably indirect manipulation rather than a cheesy turncoat scenario).

So Morgan instructs Dahlia to gather the three Magatama from their holders... Somewhere along the way she bungles the job and Pearl disappears with her piece (later discovered she was raised by the Steel Samurai). Very soon after, Dahlia succeeds in killing Mia and taking hers. Maya disappears some years later.
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Bumping to keep this project aliiiive! :rock'n:
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This project... it intrigues me...

I vote that it lives. :D
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Hey, thanks for the support everyone!

I never intended for this thread and project to become so inactive, but the past months have seen me making some adjustments to life in our new house. That and I've been having yet more PC problems!

I plan to focus on doing more art and writing in the coming spring, though, and plenty of it!
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MoronSonOfBoron wrote:
Hey, thanks for the support everyone!

I never intended for this thread and project to become so inactive, but the past months have seen me making some adjustments to life in our new house. That and I've been having yet more PC problems!

I plan to focus on doing more art and writing in the coming spring, though, and plenty of it!

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They're awesome! Worth of my time in here <3

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Just read all this topic in one sitting.
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Dear lord, woman, how do you still have any sanity left in you?! :beef:

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