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What did everyone else think of it?
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Oh, and a couple of friends and I are going to see it over Thanksgiving break. We've read the poem and thought it was totally badass-raw.
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But, to give him basic human characteristics!? That ruins the whole superhero archetype! Now I can see why my mate told me they bastardized the poem. Now I'm hesitant to go see it. Thanks a lot! >:(
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I really don't necessarily agree with, out of anything in the movie, the fact that they had to give him a 'pride comes before the fall' style character. Beowulf was all ABOUT Pride, not about how it will somehow make you reflect on yourself when that pride falters.
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But I do agree that the "Pride is the curse" thing didn't match up with the movie just right.
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luckyhitmaster wrote:
Just think about Spiderman, Simba (The Lion King), Roland (The Dark Tower), etc. Those were all great stories, and Spiderman especially is well-known and loved. All of them are also flawed heroes. Without any internal conflict, things just get boring most of the time.
But I do agree that the "Pride is the curse" thing didn't match up with the movie just right.
But I do agree that the "Pride is the curse" thing didn't match up with the movie just right.
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ur right, if a hero had no weaknesses, there would be almost no conflict. After reading the poem in school, and watching a cartoon version of the poem, i actually enjoyed this story better.
instead of being a story of an unstoppable hero taking down 3 monsters (not so much the third though), it was the story of a man as he faced these monsters
Also, i thought it was cool how they altered the story to link it all together. In the original poem, it felt weird when they switched time frames, but the movie connects the two sides of the story
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Angelina Jolie suddenly wearing high heels didn't exactly help to set the 'period', but yeah, all is forgiven since the rest of it was spectacular ^^
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In the original poem, it felt weird when they switched time frames, but the movie connects the two sides of the story
Weren't the pages missing? I don't think it was deliberate. I always loved the final battle with the dragon in the poem. It was the most frighteningly realistic portrayal of an old warrior against his sure-doom.
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I tend to think of it more as a drawn out videogame tech demo.
Strangely enough, the game doesn't seem to borrow enough of the graphical assets from the movie itself when it was created =/
Anyway, it's videogame is really just another God of War clone. But at least it has a better story than Conan T__T
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DarzieP wrote:
It's worth seeing merely for I AM BEOWULF
Every time he said that, I couldn't help but wonder if they meant to make him seem mentally-challenged. He said it so weirdly. Maybe he should play Yanni Yogi if they ever make a PW:AA live-action movie.
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I dunno.. I agree about it seeming like a long drawn out video game tech demo. The textures were wonderful, but the animation wasn't so great. And some models didn't look so nice either (notably the women..). And what's with
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Meh, I dunno. I studied 3D animation so maybe I'm too nitpicky, but I didn't enjoy this movie so much. I'll give it some points for capturing the humanity of the character, but it felt like a lot of the story was paraphrased too much so there wasn't much development going on. I think I'm better off reading the original.
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Aevitas wrote:
Every time he yelled "I AM.. BEOWULF!" I kept thinking "THIS IS.. SPARTA!"
Me too :3
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i know, my friends and i joke that to truly be a hero, you must fight in the nude. personally i thought it was hilarious that they did that, but i see what you mean about how it may have been a bit too comical
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andrx wrote:
ur right, if a hero had no weaknesses, there would be almost no conflict. After reading the poem in school, and watching a cartoon version of the poem, i actually enjoyed this story better.
instead of being a story of an unstoppable hero taking down 3 monsters (not so much the third though), it was the story of a man as he faced these monsters
Also, i thought it was cool how they altered the story to link it all together. In the original poem, it felt weird when they switched time frames, but the movie connects the two sides of the story
instead of being a story of an unstoppable hero taking down 3 monsters (not so much the third though), it was the story of a man as he faced these monsters
Also, i thought it was cool how they altered the story to link it all together. In the original poem, it felt weird when they switched time frames, but the movie connects the two sides of the story
That's not the point of the poem at all, though. Beowulf is not supposed to have a weakness, save for mortality. He's not a Greek God or a Christian allegory--he is basically just a crazy warrior who spends pretty much the entire book naked beating large monsters to death.
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Weren't the pages missing? I don't think it was deliberate. I always loved the final battle with the dragon in the poem. It was the most frighteningly realistic portrayal of an old warrior against his sure-doom
No, there are no pages missing from the story of Beowulf--not, anyway, in the sense that there is another story between Grendel's mother and the dragon. The only 'pages' missing now are in the original manuscript itself, which is beginning to deteriorate due to it's extremely old age and lack of proper care for a few hundred years.
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Kenjimurasame wrote:
That's not the point of the poem at all, though. Beowulf is not supposed to have a weakness, save for mortality. He's not a Greek God or a Christian allegory--he is basically just a crazy warrior who spends pretty much the entire book naked beating large monsters to death.
He was!? I don't remember that! o_O
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Kenjimurasame wrote:
No, there are no pages missing from the story of Beowulf--not, anyway, in the sense that there is another story between Grendel's mother and the dragon. The only 'pages' missing now are in the original manuscript itself, which is beginning to deteriorate due to it's extremely old age and lack of proper care for a few hundred years.
As well as a fire, if I recall.
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And now that it's been mentioned, I have a theory (which can probably never be proven wrong or right). I'm guessing that the fire probably caused the 30-year gap of years in the poem we read now. It always seemed odd to me, even for something so old; the new characters at the end weren't well-introduced, but instead just kind of thrown in. Plus, 30 years is a pretty long time. I don't know where this theory came up, but I've also heard that the original had the Celts playing important roles as enemies to Beowulf. Over the years, a lot of theories have came up about the original story. It sucks that we'll never really know the truth. But I really do think the 30-year gap was probably caused by a fire.
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Aevitas wrote:
Every time he yelled "I AM.. BEOWULF!" I kept thinking "THIS IS.. SPARTA!"
Hahaha, me too. After the movie I kept yelling it like I was saying "THIS IS SPARTA!!" My friend was amused. X3;
I really liked it. Amazing graphics and such.
I'm unfortunately not familiar with the poem, but I thought the story was good.
I rather liked how the "perfect" hero had a flaw, and therefore it reminded us that he's human.
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As in my area, I'd like to say that the film hasn't reached our shores yet (just as we got GS4 earlier than US). I plan to bring my 17-year-old niece to watch it once it reaches here but then again, I'm unsure about the contents of the story (OF COURSE I haven't watched it myself). And I won't get the story pirated either, that's just out of the question here. Is it viewable for all ages? Please note me if the story isn't suitable for my niece's view. Thanks.
Hmm... I guess. Depends if she's one of those people whose goes pyhsco at the sight/ thought of blood. (Keep in mind the above review is by a 13-year old) I just checked the family rating and it says only for kids 15+ so it shold be OK.
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It works quite well, Ray Winstone's voice on a hero shaped body works (in real action it would have been silly either way). Didn't realize John Malkovich was in the film aswell.
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luckyhitmaster wrote:
Besides all of that, you have to add on the fact that it was originally only told through oral tradition, and we all know how that kind of thing goes. People forget things, and occasionally add things.
And now that it's been mentioned, I have a theory (which can probably never be proven wrong or right). I'm guessing that the fire probably caused the 30-year gap of years in the poem we read now. It always seemed odd to me, even for something so old; the new characters at the end weren't well-introduced, but instead just kind of thrown in. Plus, 30 years is a pretty long time. I don't know where this theory came up, but I've also heard that the original had the Celts playing important roles as enemies to Beowulf. Over the years, a lot of theories have came up about the original story. It sucks that we'll never really know the truth. But I really do think the 30-year gap was probably caused by a fire.
And now that it's been mentioned, I have a theory (which can probably never be proven wrong or right). I'm guessing that the fire probably caused the 30-year gap of years in the poem we read now. It always seemed odd to me, even for something so old; the new characters at the end weren't well-introduced, but instead just kind of thrown in. Plus, 30 years is a pretty long time. I don't know where this theory came up, but I've also heard that the original had the Celts playing important roles as enemies to Beowulf. Over the years, a lot of theories have came up about the original story. It sucks that we'll never really know the truth. But I really do think the 30-year gap was probably caused by a fire.
There was no story lost, ever. No fire, no nothing. The story of Beowulf has three chapters, and that' all it has ever had. Whether it changed between oral retelling or not is also irrelevant, because the only "text" of Beowulf is the one translated from the Nowell Codex. While that did have fire damage, it was only to the fringes of the pages, meaning that unless they somehow inscribed each page margin with extra story, nothing was lost.
Wherever you heard about the Celts is wrong. Beowulf was never in any location where the Celts could have actually met him.
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Kenjimurasame wrote:
There was no story lost, ever. No fire, no nothing. The story of Beowulf has three chapters, and that' all it has ever had. Whether it changed between oral retelling or not is also irrelevant, because the only "text" of Beowulf is the one translated from the Nowell Codex. While that did have fire damage, it was only to the fringes of the pages, meaning that unless they somehow inscribed each page margin with extra story, nothing was lost.
Wherever you heard about the Celts is wrong. Beowulf was never in any location where the Celts could have actually met him.
Kenji's right on this one.
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I LOVED the story line and how it kept repeating...
Just an amazing movie...
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VioletBlu wrote:
I watched Beowulf a few days before it came out because I won some tickets.
I LOVED the story line and how it kept repeating...
Just an amazing movie...
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I LOVED the story line and how it kept repeating...
Just an amazing movie...
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
it has more swearing than a Samuel L. Jackson flick.
that can't be possible
my english teacher saw that one and she said it was horrible.
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