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There is a piece of news about GS5 whose name is “Exclusive interview of Shu Takumi(the director of GS)" spreads really popular on all Chinese GS forums.However, it usually means the news is unreliable, more or less.

I have no idea have you ever seen this though...sorry for my poor English.



When Shu Takumi was exclusive interviewed recently(of course not recently NOW),he said that GS5 will still be on NDS and, it will be the last one for the series. However, it doesn't mean that there will be no new GS game, but the end of stories about Phoenix. After that, GS will become a totally new game and nothing to do with the old series.

He also claim that GS4 is a try. Thanks to the high sale record of GS4, now the staffs are no longer worry about the problem which the players may have to accept a new story.

However, before the new game start, the current GS series must come to an end and GS5 will be the farewell show. GS5 will break the record of the Raise From the Ashes(my, I almost forgot that means AA to most of you here...) and become the longest one of the whole series. Almost all old characters will turn up and some hidden clues in GS1234 will be exploded. Some of the cases which seems nothing to do with each other will also show the connection. In a word, every thing will become clear in GS5. What made the players even more excited, Shu Takumi revealed that the final boss of the all darkness is not a fresh face but some one we are quite familiar with!This person control all in the dark, who can he/she be?


Shu Takumi also said the most part of the script has been finished and the game producing is on its way(just as I said ,it's not a recently news at all). There is also a piece of news which may let the players down: it's probably the last time that Shu Takumi take part in writting the script for GS. From now on, other people will take over his work.


That's all I found...some part of it obviously doesn't make sense but the others might be valuable. I'm glad that I can share it with you here.(Although you probably have already known that OTZ)
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When Shu Takumi was exclusive interviewed recently(of course not recently NOW),he said that GS5 will still be on NDS and, it will be the last one for the series. However, it doesn't mean that there will be no new GS game, but the end of stories about Phoenix. After that, GS will become a totally new game and nothing to do with the old series.


I can see it now, Phoenix is murdered and Apollo has to defend his supposed 'killer'.

Anyway, I am sad that Phoenix will cease to be in any more games (assuming this is true). Although the hobo look doesn't suit him, Hobo Phoenix is better than no Phoenix at all. I'm going to miss him. :sob: :nixiesob:

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However, before the new game start, the current GS series must come to an end and GS5 will be the farewell show. GS5 will break the record of the Raise From the Ashes(my, I almost forgot that means AA to most of you here...) and become the longest one of the whole series.


6 cases (or more!). YES! YES! YES! :foam:

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Almost all old characters will turn up and some hidden clues in GS1234 will be exploded.


There are hidden clues?? :cody:

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There is also a piece of news which may let the players down: it's probably the last time that Shu Takumi take part in writting the script for GS. From now on, other people will take over his work.


The AA series won't be the same without him! But, I'm sure who ever takes over his job (no-one can ever replace him) will do a fine job. *crosses fingers*
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I can see it now, Phoenix is murdered and Apollo has to defend his supposed 'killer'.

Anyway, I am sad that Phoenix will cease to be in any more games (assuming this is true). Although the hobo look doesn't suit him, Hobo Phoenix is better than no Phoenix at all. I'm going to miss him. :sob: :nixiesob:


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However, before the new game start, the current GS series must come to an end and GS5 will be the farewell show. GS5 will break the record of the Raise From the Ashes(my, I almost forgot that means AA to most of you here...) and become the longest one of the whole series. Almost all old characters will turn up and some hidden clues in GS1234 will be exploded. Some of the cases which seems nothing to do with each other will also show the connection. In a word, every thing will become clear in GS5. What made the players even more excited, Shu Takumi revealed that the final boss of the all darkness is not a fresh face but some one we are quite familiar with!This person control all in the dark, who can he/she be?



I wonder how they're going to kill Phoenix off. He's avoided death so many times before.

I say the final boss is :karma: . Not enough of him in PW1, so maybe. I mean, Karma did go down, but we're not sure if he was executed, he surely would feel a lot of resentment toward Phoenix, so maybe Karma kills Phoenix off too. He's a Karma, so getting out of jail would probably not be impossible for him. Nah, nevermind. I still HAVE TO KNOW DARNIT.
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I really hope they don't kill off Phoenix and I have trouble seeing it. People were upset enough about losing Phoenix as the protagonist. I can't see them killing him off. It's also a cheap way to get rid of a character and they made him rather important to the AJ arc to suddenly just kill him off. They killed Mia, but Maya was always channeling her so it was a non-issue because she played a large role while being dead. This wouldn't be so in the AJ arc. Killing off popular characters is not usually a good way to make the fan base happy, so I do have a lot of trouble seeing it happening.
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Especially with Yumi agreeing to tell them everything about the family and Phoenix assuring her that he'll watch over them at the end, it doesn't seem like such a thing is even on the horizon. Unless they're going for a shock factor thing, I would think they would not be trying to take away from Phoenix's importance to the plot and arc, not adding to it. That's just me though. Besides they have this whole rivalry with Kristoph thing going. The whole "they've become my reason for living" thing makes it hard to believe they were trying to phase him out. To suddenly kill him off in the next game so that he's not in GS6 just doesn't seem to make sense. Besides it would make me cry. :larry:

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How about this.

:hobohodo: Commits some horrible crime, but it's against a murderer or something, and :garyuu: is the only one who will defend him.

It could set up a cool :garyuu: vs. :kyouya: trial.
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MnHttnA.D.A wrote:
How about this.

:hobohodo: Commits some horrible crime, but it's against a murderer or something, and :garyuu: is the only one who will defend him.

It could set up a cool :garyuu: vs. :kyouya: trial.


Problem is Kristoph's doing time in the slammer at the moment, likely on death row... Unless you're talking about a flashback case, that would work.
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Yes, it's time for Mr. A.D.A. to reflect on fictional sentencing.

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Kristoph's act (Murder two, max), though premeditated, proves he's insane. He'd plead down to Man one and serve at 15 years in jail. Plus I'm not sure if I could get a jury to believe he did all that by himself.

The thing is, I don't think that they have plea bargaining in the PW universe. With that in mind, how long would his sentence be?
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Maybe when they close this story with GS5 they'll pull a Megaman Starforce for the next one. (200 years later type deal.)
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Maybe when they close this story with GS5 they'll pull a Megaman Starforce for the next one. (200 years later type deal.)


Robot defense Attorney: Mr. Zarko was killed by this super death ray blaster stolen from professor Xorgo's research lab located on Guo Galaxies planet named Huio Xor 9!

Robot Judge: Is that so, Mr. Robot defense Attorney?

Robot Prosecutor: Objection! Everyone knows that professor Xorgo couldn't have anything stolen from him! He had an anti-theft chip installed in him last year (in Culxinz years, that is)!

Robot defense Attorney: (Wait a second... the thought section of my artificial brain has been stimulated! If professor Xorgo had an into theft chip installed...)

Robot defense Attorney: Your honor... if professor Xorgo had an anti-theft chip installed... he couldn't create a super death ray blaster in the first place! Everyone knows that anti-theft chips also deactivate all creation chips!

Robot Prosecutor: *Explodes*
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Maybe when they close this story with GS5 they'll pull a Megaman Starforce for the next one. (200 years later type deal.)


Robot defense Attorney: Mr. Zarko was killed by this super death ray blaster stolen from professor Xorgo's research lab located on Guo Galaxies planet named Huio Xor 9!

Robot Judge: Is that so, Mr. Robot defense Attorney?

Robot Prosecutor: Objection! Everyone knows that professor Xorgo couldn't have anything stolen from him! He had an anti-theft chip installed in him last year (in Culxinz years, that is)!

Robot defense Attorney: (Wait a second... the thought section of my artificial brain has been stimulated! If professor Xorgo had an into theft chip installed...)

Robot defense Attorney: Your honor... if professor Xorgo had an anti-theft chip installed... he couldn't create a super death ray blaster in the first place! Everyone knows that anti-theft chips also deactivate all creation chips!

Robot Prosecutor: *Explodes*

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Yes, it's time for Mr. A.D.A. to reflect on fictional sentencing.

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Kristoph's act (Murder two, max), though premeditated, proves he's insane. He'd plead down to Man one and serve at 15 years in jail. Plus I'm not sure if I could get a jury to believe he did all that by himself.

The thing is, I don't think that they have plea bargaining in the PW universe. With that in mind, how long would his sentence be?


*This is real world Law, not PW*

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Kristoph at trial would be a lot like Thomas Cullen Davis. He has the money to afford top-flight Defense Attorneys, he has superior knowledge and understanding of the Criminal Justice system. And finally, a jury would be loath to convict someone as social and cultered as him. As a Prosecutor, I don't know if I could convince twelve people that someone as charming and obvioulsy gifted as Kristoph is capable of such a Hannibal Lecter-ish plot.

Plus, he's a true Sociopath.

But, If I was his Defense Attorney, he would walk. I guarantee it.

If I did manage to get a conviction, I'd ask for 25 years with parole after 15.

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Kristoph at trial would be a lot like Thomas Cullen Davis. He has the money to afford top-flight Defense Attorneys, he has superior knowledge and understanding of the Criminal Justice system. And finally, a jury would be loath to convict someone as social and cultered as him. As a Prosecutor, I don't know if I could convince twelve people that someone as charming and obvioulsy gifted as Kristoph is capable of such a Hannibal Lecter-ish plot.

Plus, he's a true Sociopath.

But, If I was his Defense Attorney, he would walk. I guarantee it.

If I did manage to get a conviction, I'd ask for 25 years with parole after 15.




Oh man...maybe Andrews was right,lawyer is not a good job sometimes.

I wonder what will happen if Phoenix become a prosecutor in GS5. I don't think he will be a lawyer again for some reasons but since he's taking another test...can he become a judge?(just kidding XD)

Anyway, it's seems to be a tradition for GS that a new (really popular) prosecutor appears in each game, why not the GS5?
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I don't think Phoenix has the stomach to be a Prosecutor.

Plus he tends to trust defendants, not a good trait for a Prosecutor.
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Kristoph at trial would be a lot like Thomas Cullen Davis. He has the money to afford top-flight Defense Attorneys, he has superior knowledge and understanding of the Criminal Justice system. And finally, a jury would be loath to convict someone as social and cultered as him. As a Prosecutor, I don't know if I could convince twelve people that someone as charming and obvioulsy gifted as Kristoph is capable of such a Hannibal Lecter-ish plot.

Plus, he's a true Sociopath.

But, If I was his Defense Attorney, he would walk. I guarantee it.

If I did manage to get a conviction, I'd ask for 25 years with parole after 15.




Oh man...maybe Andrews was right,lawyer is not a good job sometimes.


Yes, sometimes it's hard to rationalize what happens. You just tell yourself that you're doing only what you can do.

Also for Kristoph
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I don't think Phoenix has the stomach to be a Prosecutor.

Plus he tends to trust defendants, not a good trait for a Prosecutor.



That's exactly why I don't think he will be a lawyer anymore.

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He used to be the kind of person who easily trust others from the button of his heart, but now, I wonder if he's still willing to do that. He's already learned a lesson that he couldn't depend on the Mantaga( must be the wrong name, whatever), and since he's seriously hurt by trusting others, I'm sure you can feel his great change in the seven years, too.


On the other hand, maybe it's just my own wish that he won't become a lawyer, and being hurt ,again.
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I don't think Phoenix has the stomach to be a Prosecutor.

Plus he tends to trust defendants, not a good trait for a Prosecutor.



That's exactly why I don't think he will be a lawyer anymore.

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He used to be the kind of person who easily trust others from the button of his heart, but now, I wonder if he's still willing to do that. He's already learned a lesson that he couldn't depend on the Mantaga( must be the wrong name, whatever), and since he's seriously hurt by trusting others, I'm sure you can feel his great change in the seven years, too.


On the other hand, maybe it's just my own wish that he won't become a lawyer, and being hurt ,again.


This entire thing is kinda funny. If :hobohodo: hadn't been so naive in the first place, alot of his problems might not of happened. :hobohodo: 's emotional age is like 12.

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Of course, I'm fairly sure :garyuu: could fool anyone. He's an evil, more realistic form of Gant.

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This entire thing is kinda funny. If :hobohodo: hadn't been so naive in the first place, alot of his problems might not of happened. :hobohodo: 's emotional age is like 12.

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Of course, I'm fairly sure :garyuu: could fool anyone. He's an evil, more realistic form of Gant.


Yeah, actually you are right, he was just so native that any idea of keeping himself from evil trap never occurred to him.

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Yet, just as you said, he couldn't escape from Garyuu, earlier or later. In the GS4, some parts of Phoenix did become cold and hard, but he's still not Garyuu. Garyuu is evil, Phoenix is not.

Here is my point: As long as Phoenix still keep his kindness and warm heart, I doubt that if he can stand in a court as a defense attorney. In the other words, Mia's soul is still alive in him. Phoenix was taught to be a native big boy as we saw in GS 123, but he did use forge evidence (the bloody ACE) on purpose and forced Apollo sent his own mentor into jail. At the end of the first trail, Garyuu asked him if it was his revenge, Phoenix avoided answering the question at the moment. Even I'm not willing to admit that, I think it was. What makes it worse, he used Apollo to do that for him.It's no wonder Apollo got so angry after the trail.

Although he said twice or three times that he doesn't care what really happened since seven years has passed, but he asked Apollo quite a few times that what does he think about it. Does he believe in him? Well, that just made me feel that he does care about Apollo's opinion, since he can see some thing he's lost from the young lawyer.

May be he can just over come his weakness and become a lawyer again, but to me ,it's not really the Phoenix who I know from the beginning of the GS1.Well, it's a bit funny to say that here,because even the GS4 he's already changed.

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There is a very big difference in cold and hard and evil. Like I keep saying, my boy :garyuu: Krissi is probably insane.

Call me crazy, but this could make :hobohodo: a better lawyer. One of the first things I was told after graduating law school was that EVERYBODY LIES. It's true in Trial Law. Maybe :hobohodo: will stop being so attached to everything.


Sometimes in Court my dad has the Kristoph vibe. He's acting like he's being really polite and then he gets super angry without raising his voice. It's so creepy.
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MnHttnA.D.A wrote:
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There is a very big difference in cold and hard and evil. Like I keep saying, my boy :garyuu: Krissi is probably insane.

Call me crazy, but this could make :hobohodo: a better lawyer. One of the first things I was told after graduating law school was that EVERYBODY LIES. It's true in Trial Law. Maybe :hobohodo: will stop being so attached to everything.


Sometimes in Court my dad has the Kristoph vibe. He's acting like he's being really polite and then he gets super angry without raising his voice. It's so creepy.



Fine, I gaive up...you win...now :-P

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm really happy to discuss with you and maybe someday we can pick up some other topics^-^I'm just a bit tired of typing long English...usually I don't do that except my own homework, sorry for that :sob: (I know it's not good for my study though, maybe I should just make more practice here=_=)

Plus, after all, I'm not a professional one so I don't really know about all the law stuff. (Actually I hate the Policy and Law classes in my high school...so many texts to recite.*sigh*)

Thank you very much though, we will see who's the correct one sooner or later :franny: I'm under an impression that the GS5 is promised to be on sale from 2008 March~2009 March. I think the game is impossible to be finished within this year(I'm not a professional attorney but I'm in a game producing group, so I know what kind of hard working it is :sadshoe: ), but TGS 2008 is a hope~(However, it can't be Phoenix and Miles "arguing" in court again :nixiesob: )
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The thing is, I don't think that they have plea bargaining in the PW universe.


Didn't Lana say in 1-5 that they'd consider a plea if she told them about the mystery of the 'simultaneous murder' of Detective Goodman (This assumes of course, that 1-5 is considered canon).

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How about a murderer from a past game is framed for another murder and needs to be defended. Apollo is reluctant at first, but Trucy or Phoenix helps him to reconsider. Characters from the case where your client was guilty before appear as well. At the end, the defendant, although found Not Guilty, has to remain in jail, but he/she expresses gratitude and only wishes at some point he/she could be released.


This gives me an idea of a little joke they could put in:

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:udgy: Why not?

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The thing is, I don't think that they have plea bargaining in the PW universe.


Didn't Lana say in 1-5 that they'd consider a plea if she told them about the mystery of the 'simultaneous murder' of Detective Goodman (This assumes of course, that 1-5 is considered canon).

I imagine they have plea bargains in the PW world, it just doesn't come up in the game because, not only are Phoenix's clients actually innocent (with one exception of course), he believes whole-heartedly that they are innocent as well so he wouldn't consider a plea deal which would send an innocent person to jail.

On another note, I for one, would love to see Phoenix return to being a lawyer.
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I kind of figured that they partly had Phoenix forge evidence in the first case to show the necessity of the jury system in the last case. Could Phoenix have gotten off in the first case without forging the evidence? Possible, although unlikely considering how the PW world seems to be structured, but he could not have gotten the guilty party. Kristoph knew the system very well and never left behind the decisive evidence that would have been required to prove his guilt. His actions weren't right and I don't think Phoenix believes they were, but I think he was more afraid of Kristoph getting away again (Although I won't discount the possibility that it was also partly for revenge. Kristoph did screw him over. After all, he paid for a crime he didn't commit for seven years. Can we say time served?) As I recall, Kristoph's last lines before his breakdown are pointing out that no one has any decisive evidence that he committed the crime and Klavier points out that it no longer matters because the jury would decide. That all that was important in the end was the truth. Kristoph got away with framing Phoenix and could well have gotten away with two murders (and only doesn't get away with the first murder because of Phoenix's actions since the old system is still in place at this time), but the compete truth finally comes out in the end with the help of the jury system. I figure that Phoenix would likely come back to his old self (Although I honestly don't think he's changed that much from his old self. We just aren't in his head anymore and he comes off more mysterious because of his situation) now that everything is settled (except perhaps a little wiser now). Or at least I hope so.

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Maybe Apollo should go through what Phoenix had to go through...some of it anyway. e.g. Franziska as prosecutor :franny: , Edgeworth as prosecutor :edgeworth: , meet someone from his past, defend Maya :maya: /Pearl :pearl: and have Mia's ghost :youngmia: scare him half to death!! (YAY smilies!!)
Also, if he does defend a Fey, we'll get to know what happened to them which will be really great!
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Not necessarily a GS5 idea because I doubt Apollo's arc will end THAT fast.

Probably in the next arc...the next assistant, if they keep up this tradition, should be a boy psychic apprentice.

BUT WAIT, HE FAILS AT HIS POWERS SO HE CAN'T HELP YOU IN YER...LAWYERING. However like the Perceive and Magatama(sp?) System, he has some sort of thingeh to help you with your trials.

I mean we had the spirit channelers, the magicians, where are my fudging psychics? D<
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The thing is, I don't think that they have plea bargaining in the PW universe.


Didn't Lana say in 1-5 that they'd consider a plea if she told them about the mystery of the 'simultaneous murder' of Detective Goodman (This assumes of course, that 1-5 is considered canon).


If 1-5 wasn't canon, Ema wouldn't remember Phoenix in AA4.
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I'd just like to point out that that was the post where I accidently edited his post instead of quoting it. Still, there's a difference between considering a plea and granting it; the wording makes it look more like an infrequent occurance. (It's only really in the US where lots of pleas happen; here in the UK we only really have the diminished responsibility/insanity plea.
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For the love of god can't we have any brainwashing, mind control or hyponisis
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No, shut up about the damn brainwashing already.
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For assistant ideas, I was thinkin' that perhaps there should be one to read minds...except they don't know how to control it so they reads minds randomly and can't control when they do it. That way they would be unpredictable. (Or Apollo should just stay with Trucy as his aid.)
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espeoradar wrote:
For assistant ideas, I was thinkin' that perhaps there should be one to read minds...except they don't know how to control it so they reads minds randomly and can't control when they do it. That way they would be unpredictable. (Or Apollo should just stay with Trucy as his aid.)


GS4 gave me an impression that the producers are trying to add more and more science investigating skills rather than ESP powers.
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Paynes son as the new prosecutor?
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I didn't think he had one.
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you never know...
he might.
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Payne actually does talk about his family in the game, I believe. He mentions having a wife and daughter, but no son. It would be more realistic to imagine his daughter as the new prosecutor.
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As long as she's smokin' hot :D
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I already posted that as an idea, actually. You know, Felinda Payne?
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