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Let's change that! *music*
It's everyone's favorite time again!
It is here you don't have to say "when?"
Insert something here that ends with "n"
It's time for the question of the day!
*shot for crappy song*

Question: What are your favorite songs featured in Brawl. Here is a link to get all the music.

Mine would have to be,
    The animal Crossing songs, all of them.
    The Brawl theme and it's re-mixes.
    The Melee DK rap.
    Sonic Racing, Adventure 2, Heroes, and the Secret Rings songs. The games some of them go to may not be the best but I still like those songs.

My list goes on and on.
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Mike's Song, Star Wolf, the Roost, Fever, Gerudo Valley and Sailing Theme. I also detest the Sonic songs.
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I forgot to add Ashley's song. This was the first time I got to hear it. (Must find that Warioware game!)
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Ashley's Theme (English), Ridley Boss theme, Mother (Melee tracks), Ocarina of Time Medley, Hyrule Field Theme - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time", Star Wolf, and one other one I can't remember the name to.
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I like the Sonic stuff. I only downloaded the Sonic stuff though. Downloading the rest of it now, don't worry.

I probably have the Fire Emblem stuff already. Is it me, or as the Sonic games get worse, the music gets better? I detest the first three Sonic tracks. I liked them on the Mega Drive, but on the download? Ugh.
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I like the Sonic stuff. I only downloaded the Sonic stuff though. Downloading the rest of it now, don't worry.

I probably have the Fire Emblem stuff already. Is it me, or as the Sonic games get worse, the music gets better? I detest the first three Sonic tracks. I liked them on the Mega Drive, but on the download? Ugh.


Sonic R, lol T.J. Davis...

I love the Fire Emblem stuff.

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In no particular order and by no means complete!

Sonic - Live and Learn: YAAAAAAAYUH LETS ROCK OUT SONIC Okay, it's no Seven Rings.
Pikmin - Ai No Uta (French version): I'm said this one wasn't a full rendition.
Metroid - "Samus is under fire!": For some reason I thought this could be a commercial for a Metroid MMO. JOIN THE FIGHT!
MGS4 Love Theme: 100% Epic, not from concentrate
Flat Zone 2: Sound tripping
Tetris Attack/Panel De Pon Tutorial Theme: 200% Epic, more epic than your body has room for (spawning babies!)
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Favourite Brawl tunes? Hoboy, long list. I have a habit of liking a lot of stuff most people loathe, especially if I first heard it when I was little.

Here we go. The ones in bold I go out of my way to hear repeatedly. The ones in bold italics are the faves of the faves:

Spoiler: BIG LIST :O
A02 - Underground Theme - Super Mario Bros.
A04 - Ground Theme (Easton Kingdom) - Super Mario Land
A08 - Ground Theme - New Super Mario Bros.
A09 - Luigi's Mansion Theme - Luigi's Mansion
A13 - Delfino Plaza - Super Mario Sunshine
A21 - Luigi Circuit - Mario Kart 64
B04 - Donkey Kong - Donkey Kong
B08 - Jungle Japes Ver.2 - Donkey Kong Country
C01 - Main Theme - The Legend of Zelda
C02 - Overworld - The Legend of Zelda
C04 - The Dark World - The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
C07 - Overworld/Tal Tal Heights Mix - The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
C08 - Hyrule Field Theme - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
C11 - Molgera - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
C15 - Dragon Roost Island - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
C17 - Hyrule Field (Day) - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
C19 - Midna's Desperate Hour - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
D06 - Sector 1 - Metroid Fusion
E01 - Ending - Yoshi's Story
E02 - Obstacle Course - Yoshi's Island
E03 - Fluffy Way - Yoshi's Island
E06 - Wildlands - Yoshi's Island DS
F02 - King Dedede's Theme - Kirby's Dream Land
F03 - Boss Theme Medley - Kirby Series
F04 - Butter Building - Kirby's Adventure
F05 - Gourmet Race - Kirby Super Star
F06 - Meta Knight's Revenge - Kirby Super Star
G09 - Star Wolf - Star Fox Assault
G10 - Space Armada - Star Fox
H01 - Pokémon Main Theme - Pokémon
H02 - Pokémon Center Theme - Pokémon
H03 - Route 1 / Viridian City - Pokémon
H08 - Dialga / Palkia Battle! - Pokémon Diamond / Pearl
H09 - Team Galactic Battle! - Pokémon Diamond / Pearl
I08 - Brain Cleaner ~Replay~ - F-Zero GX
I09 - Shotgun Kiss ~Vegas Palace/Casino Palace~ - F-Zero GX
I10 - Planet Colors ~Green Plant~ - F-Zero GX
J06 - Preparing to Advance - Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
J08 - Attack - Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword
J09 - Against the Black Knight - Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
K01 - Snowman - EarthBound (Mother)
K05 - Humoresque of a Little Dog - Mother
K09 - Unfounded Revenge / Smashing Song of Praise - Mother 3
L01 - World Map - Pikmin 2
L02 - Forest of Hope - Pikmin
L06 - Main Theme - Pikmin
M04 - Mona Pizza's Song (English Version) - WarioWare: Twisted!
M06 - Mike's Song (English Version) - WarioWare: Touched!
M08 - Ashley's Song (English Version) - WarioWare: Touched!
N01 - Title - Animal Crossing
N02 - Go K.K. Rider! - Animal Crossing
N03 - 2 AM Theme K.K. Remix - Animal Crossing: Wild World
N05 - The Roost - Animal Crossing: Wild World
N06 - Town Hall and Tom Nook's Store - Animal Crossing: Wild World
Q07 - Ice Climber
Q10 - Type A - Tetris
R04 - Flat Zone 2
R06 - Lip's Theme - Panel de Pon
R09 - Golden Forest - 1080° Snowboarding
R10 - Mii Channel
R11 - Wii Shop Channel
S02 - Encounter - Metal Gear Solid
S03 - Theme of Tara - Metal Gear (MSX2)
T05 - Master Hand Battle - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
U03 - Emerald Hill Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog 2
U04 - Angel Island Zone - Sonic The Hedgehog 3
U07 - Super Sonic Racing - Sonic R
U11 - Right There, Ride On - Sonic Rush
U12 - Theme of Sonic the Hedgehog ~E3 2006~ - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
U13 - Seven Rings in Hand - Sonic and the Secret Rings
W01 - Princess Peach's Castle - Super Smash Bros. Melee
W12 - Mother - Super Smash Bros. Melee
W20 - Dr. Mario - Super Smash Bros. Melee
W29 - Mute City - Super Smash Bros. Melee
X02 - Menu 1
X19 - Trophy Mode
Y09 - DK Island Swing (Subspace Emissary Version) - Donkey Kong Country
Y11 - Data Selection Screen (Subspace Emissary Version) - Metroid Prime
Y13 - Brinstar (Subspace Emissary Version) - Metroid

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World Map-Pikmen 2
*Sonic Boom-Sonic CD
Star Wolf-Star Fox 64
Corneria-(forgot where(not the melee version))
Tunnel music-X
Overworld-Super Mario
Rico Harbor-Sunshine
*Mona Pizza-Wario
Yoshi's ending
Encounter-MGS(I think the first or second)
Love theme-MGS4
Mila's divine protection-Fire Emblem Gaiden
Tetris A-Tetris

Those are the ones off the top of my head. I love so many more songs.

*These songs are strangely addicting. @_@

I am dissapointed however that they did not include, let alone remix this song in the game-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv-7o8DVV2I. The music before the fight with bowser where you have to actually find him.

I found that piece to be fairly epic, the even included it in Galaxy, but they didn't put it in. In fact, add to that, there hasn't been a single sign of Galaxy anywhere in the game that I've seen besides Rosalina.
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They were being developed at the same time, so chances are an NDA got in the way of being able to include Galaxy content in Brawl. Twilight Princess was released early enough to not suffer the same problem.
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Hey! I'm bringing the update today! It's everybody's favorite place to spend the night! It's the one, the only,

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Luigi's Mansion!

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You can see all the rooms... I remember it bigger...
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It looks like it's time for an Extreme Makeover: Brawl Edition!
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Guess we should have sent Luigi on the vacation first...
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It... It's fixing itself! :beef:

And we can't forget how to unlock it!
Spoiler: What do you mean people might not want to see?
• Play as Luigi in three brawls

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Looks OK, I guess...
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It's a pity that there aren't ghosts grabbing players/throwing banana skins all over the place, like in the game, but all in all this stage looks pretty good.
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It's a pity that there aren't ghosts grabbing players/throwing banana skins all over the place, like in the game, but all in all this stage looks pretty good.

That wouldve been allright I suppose =P
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Nostalgia from one of the worst Mario games of all time. Ahh....bliss....
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EricaP wrote:
Nostalgia from one of the worst Mario games of all time. Ahh....bliss....

Second.
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EricaP wrote:
Nostalgia from one of the worst Mario games of all time. Ahh....bliss....

:grey: Technically speaking it wasn't a Mario game. He made a brief appearance in the game but it's actually a Luigi game.
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Donald Serrot wrote:
EricaP wrote:
Nostalgia from one of the worst Mario games of all time. Ahh....bliss....

:grey: Technically speaking it wasn't a Mario game. He made a brief appearance in the game but it's actually a Luigi game.

Wrong.

Luigi is a trademark of mario, ergo, all of Luigi's games are Mario games. Even his SSBB symbol is the same as Mario's.
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Occlude Wave wrote:
Donald Serrot wrote:
EricaP wrote:
Nostalgia from one of the worst Mario games of all time. Ahh....bliss....

:grey: Technically speaking it wasn't a Mario game. He made a brief appearance in the game but it's actually a Luigi game.

Wrong.

Luigi is a trademark of Mario, ergo, all of Luigi's games are Mario games. Even his SSBB symbol is the same as Mario's.

Luigi's mansion was made to be Luigi's game. It was made to give him a chance at the spotlight and partially as a fan service. But because Luigi and Mario are from the same series doesn't mean that all games (or just game in this instance) belong to one character. An example would be Super Princess Peach. It's not a Mario game, it's a Peach game. Yoshi's Story is a Yoshi game. That Wario one from the Game Cube was a Wario game. All these characters are from in Mario games, but these games weren't Mario games.

One more I just thought about. :odoroki:
Would Apollo Justice be a Phoenix Wright game? You don't play as Phoenix. But the game is set up mostly the same way.
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No. Phoenix Wrigth is an Ace Attorney game - so is AJ.

Mario is a series of games - I'm not referencing the charcter here. All mentioned games are licensed mainly as Mario games.
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How about this then. Mario started as the main character in a game called Donkey Kong correct? Technically Mario Bros is a spin-off just like those other games I mentioned before. *shot*
The difference with Mario getting his own game and Luigi getting his own game is that Luigi earned it after many years of supporting Mario while Mario was just re-used for other games during that time. (Great games, but he was still just being re-used.) And I actually enjoyed Luigi's Mansion.[/LuigiFanRant]

What I'm trying to say is it's not fair to call Luigi's game just a "Mario" game. Same with the others.

Edit: And Luigi's Mansion doesn't really fall in the Mario series. It was made to be Luigi's game. For just him and his fans. His fans asked for it and it is what they were given.
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Occlude Wave wrote:
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Nostalgia from one of the worst Mario games of all time. Ahh....bliss....

Second.

I also agree, but I will not say third.
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How about this then. Mario started as the main character in a game called Donkey Kong correct? Technically Mario Bros is a spin-off just like those other games I mentioned before. *shot*
The difference with Mario getting his own game and Luigi getting his own game is that Luigi earned it after many years of supporting Mario while Mario was just re-used for other games during that time. (Great games, but he was still just being re-used.) And I actually enjoyed Luigi's Mansion.[/LuigiFanRant]

What I'm trying to say is it's not fair to call Luigi's game just a "Mario" game. Same with the others.

Edit: And Luigi's Mansion doesn't really fall in the Mario series. It was made to be Luigi's game. For just him and his fans. His fans asked for it and it is what they were given.


If you wanna get technical about it, Luigi's Mansion was originally just a Tech Demo for the GCN. I don't think it was originally going to become a 'real' game until when showed to the press. There was a lot of demand to see it as a real title, and thus development continued and made it a launch title.
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I can't remember any games that used the C stick to that extent. Poor, ignored yellow nipple...

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Mario platformers = Mario series
Yoshi (and sometimes Baby Mario) = Mario spin-off
Mario RPGs = Mario spin-off
Mario Kart and other sports = Mario spin-off
WarioWare = WarioWare series
Luigi's Mansion = Mario spin-off

Note the difference - WarioWare has its own universe, whereas Luigi uses Mario's universe, Mario's enemies, but the gameplay is significantly different.
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Tinker wrote:
Mario platformers = Mario series
Yoshi (and sometimes Baby Mario) = Mario spin-off
Mario RPGs = Mario spin-off
Mario Kart and other sports = Mario spin-off
WarioWare = WarioWare series
Luigi's Mansion = Mario spin-off

Note the difference - WarioWare has its own universe, whereas Luigi uses Mario's universe, Mario's enemies, but the gameplay is significantly different.

This is the last I'm saying on this. I wasn't talking WarioWare. There was a Wario adventure type game on the GC. That is what I was talking about. That is why I didn't mention the "Ware" part. Yes they may be spin-off games, but I feel they deserve their own recognition as games. Not as Mario's leftovers. And with that I'm done. Let's get back to Brawl.
I'm just going to say right here I'm sorry about the ranting I've been doing. And allot of this is my personal feelings. I just don't like seeing a good game lowered to almost nothing like that. And that is how I took it. That was probably a miss interpretation on my part. I'm done ranting now.
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Donald Serrot wrote:
This is the last I'm saying on this. I wasn't talking WarioWare. There was a Wario adventure type game on the GC. That is what I was talking about. That is why I didn't mention the "Ware" part. Yes they may be spin-off games, but I feel they deserve their own recognition as games. Not as Mario's leftovers. And with that I'm done. Let's get back to Brawl.
I'm just going to say right here I'm sorry about the ranting I've been doing. And allot of this is my personal feelings. I just don't like seeing a good game lowered to almost nothing like that. And that is how I took it. That was probably a miss interpretation on my part. I'm done ranting now.


I had, erm, not even read that post. I wasn't referring to you :)
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Tinker wrote:
Donald Serrot wrote:
This is the last I'm saying on this. I wasn't talking WarioWare. There was a Wario adventure type game on the GC. That is what I was talking about. That is why I didn't mention the "Ware" part. Yes they may be spin-off games, but I feel they deserve their own recognition as games. Not as Mario's leftovers. And with that I'm done. Let's get back to Brawl.
I'm just going to say right here I'm sorry about the ranting I've been doing. And allot of this is my personal feelings. I just don't like seeing a good game lowered to almost nothing like that. And that is how I took it. That was probably a miss interpretation on my part. I'm done ranting now.


I had, erm, not even read that post. I wasn't referring to you :)

Sorry. I was a little blind there. But looking at what you said, it looks like you were trying to help me a bit. I get a little over defencive when it comes to one of my favorite characters. Yea, I feel kinda stupid now. I'll go try to get my feet out of my mouth now.
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Why are your feet in your mouth?
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Sorry I'm late!

Anyways, not a bad stage.

NOW.... time to get into this debate.

Spoiler: Wrestle's Argument. RUN!!!
Apollo Justice isn't from the Phoenix Wright series...

BUT!

Gyakuten Saiban 4 IS FROM THE GYAKUTEN SERIES!

Consider it this way.

A = B
B = C
Does A = C?

PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS QUESTION'S ANSWER! It is "Not Necessarily".

Apollo Justice = A
Gyakuten Sayban IV = B
Gyakuten Saiban/Phoenix Wright series = C.

Apollo Justice IS Gyakuten Saiban IV
And Gyakuten Saiban IV IS a part of the Gyakuten Saiban series!

BUT....

Apollo Justice is not a part of the Phoenix Wright series.

This is One way to look at it.

But if "C" stands for "Ace Attorney", then A = C.


NOW... for the great Mario debate:

Alright! Now....

Wario Land I-IV, and Wario World.

Are they Spin-offs from Mario? Or Wario?

This is specifically for Occlude, Don Serrot, and Tinker to judge. WarioWare SEEMS like its own series, but IF Wario Land is considered a spin off of Mario games, then this makes any and all of the "Wario Ware is its own "area" " argument discussed, invalid.

See, this is, essentially, a trap. If it is AGREED that these games are part of a Wario division, than WarioWare is NOT a division. It's part of Wario's division.

Likewise, if these games are part of MARIO'S division, so is WarioWare.

Wario Land/World are WARIO-SPECIFIC games. And there's LOADS more of his games, too.

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Why are your feet in your mouth?

:igarashi: Young people these days!
That is an old frase that you would say when you feel like you said something stupid.

@Wrestle: Where were you man! You missed the debate!
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Sorry, Father was online.

And I was injured two days ago when I slipped on an ice-covered concrete step outside, and landed on a hard, wooden step, kidney-first, 4 steps down.

Trying to tend to it. Somehow I also sprained my arm. Not sure how...
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Ouch! ... I hope you'll be battle ready when Brawl come out!
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Anyone know what this Forbidden 7 thing is? This is all I know on the subject.

"What are the forbidden 7?"

Characters who have folders on the game disc with nothing in them. Mewtwo, Roy, Dr. Mario, Plusle & Minun, Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik. It's also been discovered that Mewtwo and Roy also had victory themes, and Mewtwo had a "versus" screen for classic mode. Perhaps suggesting that those two in particular may've been cut fairly late into development.


Got that from GameSpot SSBB forums, anyone else got anything on this?
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Anyone know what this Forbidden 7 thing is? This is all I know on the subject.

"What are the forbidden 7?"

Characters who have folders on the game disc with nothing in them. Mewtwo, Roy, Dr. Mario, Plusle & Minun, Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik. It's also been discovered that Mewtwo and Roy also had victory themes, and Mewtwo had a "versus" screen for classic mode. Perhaps suggesting that those two in particular may've been cut fairly late into development.


Got that from GameSpot SSBB forums, anyone else got anything on this?


Alright, here it is from the horse's mouth...'s source's acquaintance. :oops:

Anyways, on the Brawl disk were seven characters with some data - the ones listed above. Now, this was at first taken to simply be scrapped stuff. At some point Mewtwo's 'versus' screen surfaced.

Now, TFox, who I know from another forum, leaked Brawl info previously to Chronobound from GFAQs/Smashboards, and it turned out right. Now, TFox is saying (through Chrono) that Roy/Mewtwo/etc. will be in the NA/PAL versions and downloadable for JP.

Now, to be blunt, I know TFox, and he's not exactly the world's most reliable source. I'm on the fence on this one.
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That. . . .would. . . . . rock!!!!
Must not get hopes up!!

Thanks for the info.
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That's nice, but has there been any evidence that the Brawl software is built for downloadable characters?
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The fact that the folders already exist for the characters lends credibility to this argument; it would be relatively easy to patch the game or the savestate with the folders already in place.

However, to be honest I don't think this is likely, although the fact that the supposed downloadable content includes missing Melee characters means I can't dismiss it entirely.
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