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That's sick, but I can actually imagine it happening....

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Complete WIN for that reference. The bloodiest of all of Shakespeare's plays, indeed. And ddja watch that movie by Julie Taymor? <3

And, to make this post on-topic...
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I feel that Kristoph should totally get more screentime in GS5. Or Apollo and Klavier, especially the latter, having some kind of emotional response to being betrayed by someone they trust so much.

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I've been thinking. Apart from maybe 3-3, all of the third cases so far have taken place in some kind of weird subculture, making the case essentially an instance of 'all bets are off' (this is notable in 2-3 in particular, given how far it's necessary to suspend the normal rules to work out anything). So, any ideas as to what bizarre environment 5-3 will take place in?
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I've been thinking. Apart from maybe 3-3, all of the third cases so far have taken place in some kind of weird subculture, making the case essentially an instance of 'all bets are off' (this is notable in 2-3 in particular, given how far it's necessary to suspend the normal rules to work out anything). So, any ideas as to what bizarre environment 5-3 will take place in?


Maybe some kind of religious cult?

Perhaps an insular commune with brainwashed adherents, where Apollo is required to circumvent their secretive and arcane practices in order to discover the truth?
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i think ther should be :yogi: 's childern:keith and meg

Spoiler: 1-4
Considering his "Uncle" alter ego, Keith's and Meg's existance should be put in question.


Now, for ideas...

Well, the only thing I could think of right now is upping the usage of Scientific Investigations.

And that's it.

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Actually, you know what the one twist that would REALLY be eye-catching in GS5?

If the last case of the game's victim...is Phoenix Wright.

Not only that, but you're defending the accused because Apollo gets the impression that he/she is innocent. Imagine Trucy being filled with grief and hate towards the client, and Apollo growing angry as the prosecution pulls out evidence and testimony that implicates the client.

Even better is if the prosecutor is someone like Edgeworth or Franziska, who has a prior history with Phoenix (Edgeworth trying to get justice for his friend, Franziska trying to get revenge for the death of her 'rival'/out of respect for a worthy foe/some other contrivance I'll make up later). Personal stakes!

Phoenix's body is not found, naturally. They're still looking for him throughout the trial, leaving his status ambiguous and the severity of the trial in flux. Throw in a labyrinthine plot surrounding the defendant AND the murder (coincidentally OR intentionally) that only serves to obscure the culprit, and all sorts of other ambiguities. If you want, bring in old PW characters, though this is not 100% necessary.

The ending, naturally, would have to be epic. If Capcom REALLY wanted to be ballsy about it, they could very well do one thing:

Spoiler: Dramatic Reveal!
Reveal that Phoenix is indeed dead.


...but he'll likely be alive at the end, if there's a search going on.

There. I said it. I feel better.

I wonder if anyone will respond?
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I agree, that would be nice.

Also, needs moar ninjas. If the last one had samurai and mob, so far this one has yakuza. Now there need to be ninjas.


Maybe even Ninja Monkeys! (joking of course!)
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chazooma wrote:
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Has anyone ever wondered how... *spoiler text*


Spoiler: 4-4
"Search your perceive system"...? XD

'cause then he would know she wasn't lying. :redd:

Spoiler:
Do you think Apollo would hold any hard feelings toward his parents for not being there in his life? It'd be possible that he'd get all mad and yell, "Some mother you were! Where were you these past 22 (or 23) years?!" Maybe he'd know already that his father's dead, but I doubt he'd suspect that one of the most famous magicians of that time was his real mother.
I can imagine little Apollo saying, "Why does everyone else have a mama and papa except me? *sniff*"
That... would probably make me cry if they actually included something like that in the game.


Spoiler: 4-4
Apollo was 12 when Thalassa left, so it'd be the last 11 years.

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If Capcom REALLY wanted to be ballsy about it,

Graa! MUST FIX POST! :yani-fist:
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I think a serial killer case say like in case 1 the first murder happens then in case 3 then case 5 that would be interesing and in the final case you find out who it is and it is someone you have known all along lol
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I think the prosecutor should be someone that Apollo, Trucy, or Ema should look up to. Like a famous former defense attorney, Magician or Scientist. :D It should be a girl. There's only been one girl prosector so far. >:O
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There's only been one girl prosector so far. >:O

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Well, if they're going the way the last arc went in regards to prosecutors, we'll be getting a female prosecutor next game.
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Not more so for GS5...but in a future arc they should have the recurring comic, or nice character (probably a childhood friend) who's been in all the games of that arc helping out etc., only in the end to turn out as the main villain. Like you have not so obvious foreshadowing or hints throughout that arc until the end.
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That would be interesting for the next arc!
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... they should have the recurring comic, or nice character...

As for the current arc, :karate: should definitely come back! I still think he could be the new Larry! (But cooler!)
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He has girl problems, seems to find trouble allot, and is a big goofball!

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Leo wrote:
Spoiler: 4-4
Apollo was 12 when Thalassa left, so it'd be the last 11 years.


Spoiler: 4-4
Thalassa gave Apollo up soon after his birth. According to the game, she was married a year and then her husband died on stage. She returns to the troupe after losing her husband without baby Apollo (and missing one bracelet), so she would have been absent Apollo's whole life.

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If Capcom REALLY wanted to be ballsy about it,

Graa! MUST FIX POST! :yani-fist:


Seriously, is that the ONLY thing people have to say? :pft:

Meh, I was thinking about Suikoden II when I wrote this. Still, it's fixed. :keiko:
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The Final villian...

The one behind the catastrophes that were Manfred von Karma, Damon Gant, Matt Engarde, Morgan Fey, Dahlia Hawthorne, and Kristoph Gavin.

It would be quite epic.

Also, Iris needs to return. Ja.
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Takuya, you should probably mark those spoilers.

Anyway, I've been thinking about what plot points Apollo Justice set up to be important in the next game, and I've come up with four:

Spoiler: SPOILERS for the whole game. Obviously.
The seedy history of the Gavin brothers: I honestly don't know whether this is likely to be important, but it could be. I mean, you get two brothers presumably growing up in the same household, yet they become so different. Klavier plays guitar, Kristoph plays violin. Klavier becomes a prosecutor, Kristoph a defence attorney. Klavier cares about the truth, Kristoph about his reputation. Klavier fights for justice, Kristoph...kills people. There's got to be more plot there.

Borginia: Not only do we have no clue how Lamiroir ended up there, but Machi's plot has a distinct unfinished feel. When he takes the stand at the end of the trial, he says 'situation...I cannot explain.' In other words, he seems to be still hiding something.

Apollo's past: We know absoultely nothing about what happened to him between his birth and his showing up at Kristoph's office. Was he adopted? Did he grow up in an orphanage? Does he have a mysterious old friend who wears a cravat might show up?

The Gramaryes: This one is really a given. We still don't know who Polly's father is, or who shot Thalassa. I suspect that maybe Thalassa was actually shot by a third party we haven't met, who took advantage of the fact that there would be bullets flying around anyway to try and kill her. Also, I want to visit Valant in jail. Image how awesome a magician's cell would look!
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I would like another main villian again :edgy: Maya/Pearl/Edgeworth/andtherest have to come back! For any reason. :keiko:
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Salutation Here wrote:
Spoiler: SPOILERS for the whole game. Obviously.
The seedy history of the Gavin brothers: I honestly don't know whether this is likely to be important, but it could be. I mean, you get two brothers presumably growing up in the same household, yet they become so different. Klavier plays guitar, Kristoph plays violin. Klavier becomes a prosecutor, Kristoph a defence attorney. Klavier cares about the truth, Kristoph about his reputation. Klavier fights for justice, Kristoph...kills people. There's got to be more plot there.

Borginia: Not only do we have no clue how Lamiroir ended up there, but Machi's plot has a distinct unfinished feel. When he takes the stand at the end of the trial, he says 'situation...I cannot explain.' In other words, he seems to be still hiding something.

Apollo's past: We know absoultely nothing about what happened to him between his birth and his showing up at Kristoph's office. Was he adopted? Did he grow up in an orphanage? Does he have a mysterious old friend who wears a cravat might show up?

The Gramaryes: This one is really a given. We still don't know who Polly's father is, or who shot Thalassa. I suspect that maybe Thalassa was actually shot by a third party we haven't met, who took advantage of the fact that there would be bullets flying around anyway to try and kill her. Also, I want to visit Valant in jail. Image how awesome a magician's cell would look!


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Those are some excellent points. Personally, I think the first two are somewhat unlikely to be addressed. Although I can see Klavier coming back, I don't see how a Kristoph return would fit. Also, while we're probably going to find out more about Lamiroir's past, I don't really think Machi will be back. The other two however, I think are very probable. They deliberately left Apollo's background vague and I think that the next game is going to have a lot of filling in. I also like the idea of a third party being responsible for Thalassa's shooting. The details surrounding that in this game are so vague, so I hope they do clear it up.
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For GS5, I was hoping for a female prosecutor. Someone who kicks ass, but isn't a clone of an already-existing character. I was thinking that the prosecutor could act really friendly outside of court, but inside court she'd be some kind of strict, intense, woman who would object to almost anything. Hopefully she'll put up a really good fight, and maybe have a connection to Apollo somehow.

And of course, expansion on the characters would be great. I would like to see some backstory on the Gavins (because I feel that since they missed the opporotunity in the first game, they should definitly do it in the second), Apollo, and the Gramaryes.
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The new prosecutor is going to be an already-existing character. I'm thinking Franny or Thally.

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The new prosecutor is going to be an already-existing character. I'm thinking Franny or Thally.

Yes, I just tried to nickname Thalassa.


We don't know that. The new prosecutor could be an old character or a new one.
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I hope the "new" prosecutor is...Klavier, actually. Is the Prosecutor's Office that much of a revolving door? Plus, Klavier was awesome, so we need to see more of him.

I wouldn't mind seeing Lana back and actually prosecuting a case also; I was a bit annoyed that we saw Ema but didn't hear a thing about what happened to her big sis...
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I hope the "new" prosecutor is...Klavier, actually. Is the Prosecutor's Office that much of a revolving door? Plus, Klavier was awesome, so we need to see more of him.


That would be a change from the Prosecutor of the Month club. :edgeworth: :franny: :godot: :kyouya:

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I wouldn't mind seeing Lana back and actually prosecuting a case also; I was a bit annoyed that we saw Ema but didn't hear a thing about what happened to her big sis...


That might be nice, too...even a 'I killed her when I caught her smuggling cocaine in Snackoos bags." :yummy:
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I hope the "new" prosecutor is...Klavier, actually. Is the Prosecutor's Office that much of a revolving door? Plus, Klavier was awesome, so we need to see more of him.


I doubt that the GS staff would take him off. Afterall, his brother
Spoiler: AJ Spoilers
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Slim Shady, and we all know who he is. Right? *wink wink*


So, I doubt it. They would need someone to connect to him, like Klavier, so I'm pretty sure he's in the next sequel.
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I don't think Klavier would be the main prosecutor in the next game though. I mean, maybe as a guest prosecutor or something, but let's bring in someone new. Someone who wants to crush Apollo under their heel. Klavier's a nice guy, but Apollo was led through the trials by Klavier sometimes. Apollo needs to learn how to think it out on his own. Having a nice prosecutor is refreshing, but beating someone who wanted to squish Apollo like a bug is oh so satisfying.
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Keep the jurist system but add a twist: Depending on whether you select 'Guilty' or 'Not Guilty', a separate path branches off from the main story and a new one unfolds. You would progress through Case 1 - 4 (or w/e) like normal, only the story changes. Perfect for adding replay value.
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I'd imagine a murder case that Apollo takes that leads to Kurain.


Yeah, and maybe Pearls is implicated somehow
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a la Ema in 1-5.
. The real murderer in our imaginary case is Morgan, maybe?


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You mean Lana, but Ema is tied to the SL-9 incident and was accused of killing Neil Marshall
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Case 5-1: Crushed Turnabout
Wright & Co. Law Offices are back in full swing. Wright is busy on a case requiring some extensive footwork when Gumshoe shows up, looking for Phoenix's help. Mike Meekins has been killed, and Dick's the prime suspect. Without Phoenix around, Gumshoe is reluctant to trust Apollo, and gives several annoying, "Y'know pal, this is where ol' Wright would check the court record..." type advice. In a turnabout, it's revealed that... Meekins actually died as a result of his own clumsiness. As a twist, it comes out that Prosecutor Payne had arranged for the scene of the crime to be altered to 'get' Gumshoe, in revenge for the numerous losses Payne felt was the result of Gumshoe's incompetence. Gumshoe is acquitted.
- Throwaway lines: Phoenix working with Edgeworth on the case
- References to Maggey




That sounds like a really good case. I'd definetely play if it were ever made.
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And we'd never have to see Payne again after that case.
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Another "popular" fan relationship is Franzika x Adrian and from what I understand outside of 2-4 Fran and Adrian are not in the same case or even speak of the other.

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Since this is a while in the future, how about we get the relevation that Edgey IS a Fey? Somwthing could happen like Nick or Maya is murdered, and Edgey, who was trying to get back to his roots, is a suspect?

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I want to see the Justice and Co. Law Offices. Though maybe that's one for the end of Apollo's arc.
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I haven't gone through this entire massive thread, so maybe someone already mentioned this..

Kristoph Gavin should be a playable character with a young Apollo as his legal aide possibly taking down notes and stuff. We really need to see what were Apollo's aspirations for becoming a lawyer since we didn't get any of it in his first game.

Have a fan poll on which old character should come back since most fans are still attached to the old characters. The old characters shouldn't dominate the game, but it would nice to have a cameo or 2.

Maybe we can also see an actual magic show by Minuki or even have her as a suspect like Maya in one case.
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Maybe we can also see an actual magic show by Minuki or even have her as a suspect like Maya in one case.


:zennybw: :sob:

NO. I do not want a repeat of Maya. Plus, investigating gets a bit lonely when your assistant's in jail.
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