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Gotta Luv Edgey! wrote:
It would be cool to see what Franciska looks like 8 years later...hehehehe


Five bucks says that she's got longer hair and doesnt use the whip. Haha. That would be so so so weird cause all of us are used to seeing her with it.
:ka-whip: :whip: :ack: :objection: :oops: :ka-whip: :ack:
And then they'd do it all again. Hahaha

what about apollo, what would happen to him?
:odo-objection: :objection: :ka-whip: :whip:
poor poor apollo.. he's literately screwed if she was to be the Prosecutor in his next case...
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We're getting off topic here peeps...While I agree that chances are Franny won't come back 8 years into the future to give Phoenix the card...

There's no evidence that she hasn't already, To elaborate, We don't know what happens after
Spoiler: 3-5
Phoenix and Maya go and Fetch Pearl and Return to Trae bein for the party
beyond what the characters have to say in the credits...however, in that time there, it would have been Easy for Franny to pull Phoenix Aside and give it to him, it may simply not be shown to AJ in his game, just because Phoenix didn't feel like it.

Point being, that while it could have been totally forgotten (In all honesty, probably was) There's still a chance that Phoenix Carries it in his pocket next to the Megatama for all we know.

Mainly, I'm saying that it might not be the last we see of the card, it could easily show up in a later game, dropped by Phoenix and he could explain how he got it and what it is when it's given back to him, of course, Capcom would have to be willing to seal the deal with a Cannon PhoenixXMaya Pairing.

I think it could happen, they have alluded to it enough (C'mon, if the need the cannon Evidence Pile, go look at the PhoenixXMaya Fanclub, we've been working hard on it.) The only reason they wouldn't is because Capcom is often annoying about committing to a story sometimes. (Me:So like...none of the endings in Resident Evil were real...WTF? Why even beat the game?)
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honestly, i dont think the card is comming back.
capcom had it's chance in game three, cuz franny could have just gave phoenix the card at anytime and if she comes back now, just for the soul purpose of giving it to him, it would be:

1. compleatly unrelated to Apollo Justice (or the story line so far) and
2. that would be premoting frannyXphoenix.

therefore, i bealeve we have seen the last of the card. it was just a filler to have a deep moment with franny and to have a fourth peace of evedence.
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I hope in AJ 2 the card's just sitting there in The Office/Talant agency or something and when you examine it Pheonix comments about :whip:, like his comment about Maya if you examine those videos in the Hospital
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NOO it is not the end of that card!!!!!!
I mean, why would they say 'I will return it to you' if she wasn't going to???
And Capcom 'had its chance'??? Maybe they had actually planned to bring it back NOW for the most impact!!!Because yeah, it may have been filler, but if later they had realised they can't bring it back, they would have made Franny say 'I lost it' or something. There just has to be a reason!!!!

And whatever the plot is, I think GS5 somehow has to tie in the Apollo Justice characters, BRING BACK THE OLD ONES, some relationships lol, in a very epic storyline where Phoenix is the murderer or something. Or the Judge :)
(But that's only if it were to be the last game, so it might not be)
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But but.... what if the Fourth generation de Killer is in the next game? And they need to contact everyone who was involved in case against his predecessor to gain information about him. And a vital clue is... THAT VERY CARD!!! :meekins:

Yeah, I'm just being silly. While I do hope for de Killer IV, I don't think that card's coming back.


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Superninfreak wrote:
I hope in AJ 2 the card's just sitting there in The Office/Talant agency or something and when you examine it Pheonix comments about :whip:, like his comment about Maya if you examine those videos in the Hospital


if the card is comming back, this is pbly how there gonna do it.
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Ok i've been wondering how many people who have actually played Apollo Justice haven't heard of or played Phoenix Wright so whats wrong with bringing back character I mean
Spoiler:
Gumshoe was brought back for a cameo in case 4-4!
so why not?
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Lol. I can see this happening.

Spoiler: 4-4
Now with her eyesight, Thalassa wants to revisit the land of 'Borginia' and takes her daughter, Trucy with her. It's a short trip, though.


Then, a murder happens. Prosecutor Klavier is incapacited somehow, he can't come to trial. Franny steps in as Prosecutor for the three days, with Apollo on defense and Phoenix helping. In the middle of a recess, Franny hands the card over to Phoenix.

Then, sometime after the case,
Spoiler: continuing from the last one
Thalassa returns to America with Trucy, and things go as planned.

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Franny said that she'd give the card to Phoenix when they did battle again, in game 3 she only faced off against Edgeworth, not Phoenix, unless Franny goes against Phoenix, the card is not going to be brought back, she might count Apollo as Phoenix's successor but the card will have no significance to Apollo, and Fanny would know that.
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DarknessLord wrote:
Franny said that she'd give the card to Phoenix when they did battle again, in game 3 she only faced off against Edgeworth, not Phoenix, unless Franny goes against Phoenix, the card is not going to be brought back, she might count Apollo as Phoenix's successor but the card will have no significance to Apollo, and Fanny would know that.


In that case, she might give it to Apollo as a symbolic gesture, if she considered him the 'successor' to Phoenix Wright.

Or, she could give it to Apollo in despair that she will never be able to face Phoenix (if he does not become an attorney again). Or to Phoenix, as well, possibly in an attempt to make him return as a lawyer (I could see her having developed a dependency regarding Phoenix as a 'rival').

Or, she could even throw the card away if she found that Phoenix was not going to return, and then someone could find it and give it to Apollo or Phoenix. Once again, despair and surrender.

These all assume that Franzy even shows up in the game, and that the card is used in any way. They're just fun speculations regarding a minor-yet-unresolved plot point.
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i love the idea of franzesca going up to apollo and handing him the card, telling him to give it to phoenix.
and when he tryes to ask questions about it...
:ka-whip: :whip:
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Franziska to show up as a judge in GS5 = GREAT JUSTICE FOR ALL

Personally I'd think it'd be hilarious.
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Prosecutor Daray wrote:
Gotta Luv Edgey! wrote:
It would be cool to see what Franciska looks like 8 years later...hehehehe


Five bucks says that she's got longer hair and doesnt use the whip. Haha. That would be so so so weird cause all of us are used to seeing her with it.


If that's the case, I'm pretty sure she would have upgraded to the CANE.
*dun dun dunnnn*



ANYWAY. I created a topic about this whole card thing in the GS3 section.
Because I kept on wondering and thinking, WHY THE HELL DID FRANZISKA NOT GIVE THE CARD TO PHOENIX?

At the end of JFA, it definately seemed like the card had a strong relevance towards the plot of T&T
But in reality, the card had absolutely no relevance at all.
Which I thought was really, really weird...


As much as I HATE, HATE, HATEE to say this, I really do think that the card won't appear anymore.
Which is pretty stupid, because why would the capcom people make such a big deal out of it in JFA? It seemed too big to simply be 'forgotten'.

I really do hope we see more of Franziska though, screw the card, I WANT FRANNY!
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Or probably a sturdy, spiky chain.....
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Prosecutor Daray wrote:
Gotta Luv Edgey! wrote:
It would be cool to see what Franciska looks like 8 years later...hehehehe

Five bucks says that she's got longer hair and doesnt use the whip. Haha. That would be so so so weird cause all of us are used to seeing her with it.

If that's the case, I'm pretty sure she would have upgraded to the CANE.

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I simply believe the reason she didn't give the card to Phoenix is that she didn't face off against him. She says, specifically, at the end of JFA, that she'll give it to him when they meet to do battle again (or something VERY close to that). And I can't see her giving it to Edgeworth... :edgeworth: :franny:

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Superninfreak wrote:
I hope in AJ 2 the card's just sitting there in The Office/Talant agency or something and when you examine it Pheonix comments about :whip:, like his comment about Maya if you examine those videos in the Hospital

:hobohodo: "Oh, I got that from a girl who used to whip me." :ka-whip:
:apollo-shock:
I think Apollo would stop asking questions right there. XD

I honestly think anything more than that would be a little "messy" in terms of the fact that this is now "Apollo Justice," not "Phoenix Wright." As much as I miss the old characters... I was frustrated that half the time Apollo was just being used by Phoenix. ^^;
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Regy Rusty wrote:
But but.... what if the Fourth generation de Killer is in the next game? And they need to contact everyone who was involved in case against his predecessor to gain information about him. And a vital clue is... THAT VERY CARD!!! :meekins:

Yeah, I'm just being silly. While I do hope for de Killer IV, I don't think that card's coming back.




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The card was just put in for closure IMO. The picture that Pearl wanted to see and the fourth piece of evidence etc.


'The 4th piece of evidence' isn't as reason of itself. The card was of separate importance, otherwise they would have just had 3 pieces of evidence.

The card was important to Game 2 for various reasons [it was a way to show Franziska intended to keep prosecuting and return to defeat Phoenix one day, also the card's contents had symbolic meaning for.. various theories of mine..].

However.. if the writers of game 5 are the same as game 4, I expect they won't remember it or think it's of relevance any more. I mean, they apparently thought Edgeworth, Maya and the entire contents of game 2 and 3 weren't relevant enough to reference or impact the game, so, although the card's return would be good for continuity if Franziska ever returned to face Lawyer Phoenix, the chances of that happening in GS5 are.. unfortunately remote.

Giving it to Apollo would be meaningless to both Apollo and Franziska.

Also, though we assume the next game is about Apollo, it's not the 'Apollo Justice Series'. In Japan the game is simply called 'Gyakuten Saiban 4/5'

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Ok i've been wondering how many people who have actually played Apollo Justice haven't heard of or played Phoenix Wright so whats wrong with bringing back character I mean
Spoiler:
Gumshoe was brought back for a cameo in case 4-4!
so why not?

Gumshoe didn't need new sprites. Franziska, Maya, Edgeworth? etc would. More work for the lazy producers.
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I think nobody can say for sure whether it will be there or not.
Yes, some may say they just forgot, but Capcom isn't a bunch of amateurs to do such a mistake..
Oh, and btw, the game is still GS5. We don't know if it is AJ2 (yeah it most probably will be, but who knows?)
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