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That picture is too too cute! *saves*
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I will admit that I love that picture as well. It is both adorable and absolutely hilarious (I know I got a good laugh out of it <_<).



So... topic time. Let's see if we can keep this thread alive. :shoe: Since I am having trouble coming up with a better topic, I'll suggest the rather silly one floating around in my sleep-deprived mind at the moment and you guys can either run with it or anyone who wants to is welcome to suggest a better one. Anyway, in the event that Phoenix and Iris had children, what would they name them?


And of course the topic of the Wiki article is still open. Any suggestions are welcome as well as any proofing help. :yogi:
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Children? Hmmm....in the conventional sense, I seem to be thinking of more traditional names such as Claire, Eleanor and others for the girls whilst guys are more common such as Michael and as well as Justin.

But I'm pretty sure that there are many more names they could both go for as Illona and as well Katarin...
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If both jointly decide on calling their first daughter Dahlia, I will......um........:yuusaku:
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If both jointly decide on calling their first daughter Dahlia, I will......um........:yuusaku:


I actually have trouble seeing them naming their daughter Dahlia. Phoenix isn't likely to have good thoughts about Dahlia and, while I can't imagine him not supporting Iris while she mourned her sister, I also have trouble seeing him agreeing to name his child after the woman who tried to kill him (and harmed many of the people he cared about). I also can't see Iris pushing that name honestly. She loved her sister a great deal, but she's also aware of how much pain came from her sister's actions so I imagine that she wouldn't bring it up. Perhaps some variation of the name though as a compromise between the two. I can also see them naming one of their daughters after Mia considering how much she meant to Phoenix.
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Yeah, I really, really have trouble seeing either of them wanting to call their kid Dahlia.

Maybe Daisy.

Or Lily.

Yeah, Lily Wright sounds nice.
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Hands down on Lily or Lillith!
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I can definitely see Phoenix naming his daughter Mia. It's just appropriate, considering how much she meant to him and all she did for him.

I can also see their daughter being named Lara or Lily.

As for the boys...I'd have to pick either Jacob or Derek.
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:/ Meh. I don't like the idea of them naming their child "Mia," but that's just me and my bias. :that-b-word:

For a girl...Hmm..."Bella" would be pretty. "Isabella Wright." :)

I also like "April," "Violet," "Gemma," and..."Cathryn." "Cathryn Wright."

Well, that, or "Samantha." That's just the greatest name ever. :ayame:

Right after "Hey You," right, Franzise?

For a guy...Hmm.

Actually, I don't know. :P
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Weirdly enough I can't think of any good names for a boy. There are names that I like (David, Michael, Scott, etc), but I don't see any reason why Phoenix and Iris might pick those names other then my personal preference (if I ever write something AU where they have children of their own, don't be surprised to see those names pop up though :P). And I adore Lily. I quite like Cathryn as well. I'm not sure why. It's just cute.



On a side note, Caelestis is writing a Phoenix/Iris story called These Wounds Can Heal. It does have some T&T and AJ spoilers, but she's off to a great start and if her last story is any example, I expect excellent stuff to come.

And since I don't think the link has been posted in this thread yet and the story is far too good not have posted here so that everyone knows about it, Arti_Rei's writing an AU Phoenix/Iris fic called Ticking Turnabout. There are some T&T spoilers in the story.
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...Hey yeah.

WHERE IS THE ENTIRE FEENRIS SHIPPER POPULATION!? WHERE DID THEY GOOOOO?? ;O;

And I agree naming their children non-referentially, so I pick Lily for their daughter, and Thomas for their son. :phoenix:
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WHERE IS THE ENTIRE FEENRIS SHIPPER POPULATION!? WHERE DID THEY GOOOOO?? ;O;

A lot of them are closet shippers. :ayame:

I went with Lily because it fits with the flower theme. There's a lot less to work with for Phoenix...
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I'm here but not always posting though.

Anyway, I think Cliantha is more better for the girls though...
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Okay, so I pulled up a list of flowers, and these are the ones that sound remotely normal...

1. Rose
2. Camilla
3. Violet
4. Scarlet
5. Poppy
6. Laurel
7. Penny
8. Jasmine

...Out of all those, I like "Camilla" and "Violet" the best. :ayame:
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My friend suggested these names to me today, and I think they're pretty suitable.

"Lily" or "Violet" for a girl, because that's sticking to the whole flower theme.

"Ash" for a boy, because of the whole "Phoenix rising from the ashes" thing.

Pretty neat huh? :godot:
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~Phoenix Wright/Iris~

Brief Intro:
~Phoenix Wright/Iris~ is the belief that Phoenix Wright and Iris are a couple or friends. The pairing has been gaining popularity since the release of GS3 / Trials & Tribulations in the U.S. According to the canon story line, Phoenix and Iris dated in college while Iris was pretending to be her sister Dahlia for her sister's sake and they fell in love. The relationship stretched over six months and ended abruptly after a failed attempt by Dahlia to kill Phoenix. After Dahlia's intentions and crimes were discovered in court, Dahlia went to jail and Iris decided not to approach Phoenix again, afraid that bringing such a difficult situation up again would cause him more pain. They meet again in the final case of GS3 and, although the existence of a relationship is debatable, many continue to support the pairing based on elements from the games that appear to be continued signs of affection and love.

History:
After a chance meeting between Dahlia and Phoenix outside the courthouse, Dahlia uses Phoenix to hide an incriminating piece of evidence (a pendant that had contained poison used by Dahlia in the attempted murder of Diego Armando) by telling him it was a gift of love. To keep her sister from harming Phoenix in an attempt to get the evidence back, Iris disguised herself as her twin and they began to date. Most fans assume that she dyed her hair and wore an outfit given to her by Dahlia. During the six months that they dated, Iris came to realize she had developed strong feelings for Phoenix, though those six months are never described in the game.

Finally deciding she could no longer wait for her sister, and possibly because she knew of her sister's feelings for Phoenix, Dahlia decided she would poison him without Iris's knowledge. Unfortunately, after overhearing a conversation between Doug Swallow and Phoenix, Dahlia realized that Doug knew too much about her previous activities and decided that she had to kill him first. Though she tried to blame the crime on Phoenix, Mia Fey proved that Dahlia was the killer and Phoenix received a "Not Guilty" verdict. Phoenix was heartbroken that his "Dollie" betrayed him like that, but firmly believed that the one in court was a "fake". Mia scoffed at this, and told Phoenix to get over her. Although he agrees to move on, throughout the game it can be seen that he can never bring himself to let go of his faith in "Dollie."

In Case 3-5, Maya and Pearl try to convince Phoenix to go to a place called Hazakura Temple for spiritual training by showing him an article about the temple in a magazine called "Oh! Cult!" Phoenix refuses to go until he sees a photo of someone strongly resembling Dahlia in the article. Phoenix decides to accompany Maya and Pearl to Hazakura after all, where he meets with Iris again. Iris recognizes Phoenix immediately, but is quick to hide it for fear that telling him would bring up painful memories best left forgotten. Nevertheless, both parties are so shocked by the meeting that neither is capable of speaking for a short time. That night, when Phoenix and Iris meet again, Iris accidently uses Phoenix's last name before he gives it to her. When Phoenix asks her how she could know his name, 5 Psyche-Locks appear (these are mystical locks that only appear when a person is hiding something. They only appear to people holding a Magatama which has been charged with spiritual power. In Phoenix's case, the one he holds was charged by Pearl Fey).

That night, things go very wrong as the mysterious visitor, Elise Deauxnim (who we later discover is actually Misty Fey), is murdered and Iris is arrested as the suspected killer. To make matters worse, Maya Fey, who had been training alone at the Inner Temple, was left isolated on the other side of Dusky Bridge after a stray thunderbolt burned and weakened the bridge. Phoenix attempted to cross the bridge to rescue her anyway, fell through into the Eagle River, and became terribly ill. Unable to leave his hospital bed in his condition, Phoenix asks Edgeworth to defend Iris until he can recover enough to take over himself.

The trial comes to its conclusion, and the truth comes out that Elise (Misty) died from a disastrous attempt by herself, Godot, and Iris to stop a plan by Morgan Fey (The mother of Pearl, Iris, and Dahlia as well as sister to Misty and aunt to Maya) and Dahlia to kill Maya. Although it's discovered that Godot was the murderer, Iris is still found guilty of tampering with the scene (and possibly obstruction of justice) and receives her own sentence (the time is never specified but considering Adrian Andrews only received about six months for a similar crime in the second game, it is believed by many that Iris' sentence would be similar to Adrian's) for that crime. When the trial ends, Iris confesses everything to Phoenix. She tells him of Dahlia's wish to kill him from the start, the feelings she had developed for him, and apologizes for all that had happened. "I hope one day you can forgive me... Feenie." After hearing all this, Phoenix is quick to forgive her.

Phoenix is shown visiting her in the credits, but it is unknown how often he visits her.


Other: Some people also note how well the two characters' personalities seem to fit together. Both characters put a great deal of faith in others, have a tendency towards being a bit naive (more obvious in Iris then in Phoenix, but can be clearly seen in both characters), and feel a great desire to protect those they care about.

Proof: As mentioned, although the pairing is definitely past canon, most people consider the pairing non-canon post GS3. Many people do continue to ship it based on signs of mutual feelings.
- Phoenix has an incredible amount of faith in his "Dollie" to the point that five years later, he still can't believe that she would have tried to kill him or committed all the crimes she is said to have done. Right after the first case in the game where we discover the truth about Dahlia, Phoenix insists that he thinks that woman on the stand is an imposter because his "Dollie" wouldn't act like Dahlia had done in court. The fourth case (which happens during the fifth case, but is played separately) opens with Phoenix looking over a case his mentor, Mia Fey, had tried years before, in which Dahlia had again played a significant role, and still can't make himself believe that the person in that file is the same woman he loved. When the truth about Iris is finally revealed, Phoenix's final words to Iris before the end of the trial are "You really are the person I always thought you were. Even after Dahlia Hawthorne was found guilty... I still believed in you."

- As an old saying goes, the people who hurt us the most are the ones we love the most. Phoenix can't bring himself to let go after Dahlia's conviction despite the fact that the case seems to have resolved neatly with everything in place. He even comments at one point that the two things he finds the most unforgivable are poisoning and betrayal (clearly a reference to Dahlia's actions towards him). It is this inability to let go that brings about his fateful reunion with Iris as Phoenix only agrees to go to Hazakura Temple after seeing a picture of Iris in Pearl's magazine. Iris too was in a great deal of pain after Dahlia's trial; not only had she lost the man she loved and her sister, but she felt so guilty for the pain that he had been through that she spends the next five years at Hazakura Temple repenting for having been a part of something that hurt him. After the truth comes out, the pain for both characters is relieved and all past wrongs are forgiven.

- Both characters show a great deal of concern for the other's well-being. Iris, worried for Phoenix's safety in the beginning of the fifth case, gives him her demon warding hood, surrendering the spiritual protection it might offer to him. This is particularly noteworthy considering how heavily spiritual power is involved in the final case. At the end of the case, Edgeworth comments that when he visited Phoenix in the hospital after falling of Dusky Bridge, Phoenix had been wearing Iris' hood. This means he cared enough about it to keep it with him at the time of Elise's murder even though he had the opportunity to leave it in his room, and that he made an extra effort to hold onto it after his fall into the violent Eagle River. Phoenix keeping the hood with him and wearing it seems to show a remarkable amount of faith in Iris' words that the hood would protect him. Despite Phoenix's inability to defend because of his accident, he is quick to send Edgeworth to Iris with his attorney's badge, the demon warding hood (which he seems to have cared for so much but was given up to be used as evidence in Iris's defense), and the magatama (a spiritual item used to see psyche locks) with the hopes that he would defend her temporarily in Phoenix's place. It is notable that Iris's first question to Edgeworth is not about her own situation, but about Phoenix's condition. Only after she is assured of Phoenix's safety is Iris willing to talk about anything else. Phoenix also checks himself out of the hospital early so that he can conduct the investigation for the second day and defend Iris, despite the fact that he is described as still being quite sick.

- Both are so struck to see each other at their first meeting that neither is capable of speaking for several moments, which prompts Maya to tease Phoenix about his reaction. While examining certain items at the Inner Temple, Maya will say things like "... You've been in kind of a bad mood lately, haven't you, Nick? ...Zvarri! I know what it is! I-R-I-S." and "Oh? About Iris, I bet! Looks like you've been bitten by the love bug, Nick!"

- In the credits, we are also told that during one of his prison visits to see Iris, Phoenix couldn't take his eyes off of her.

Other:
- Pearl Fey is Iris' half-sister. Years after Iris and her twin sister Dahlia were taken from their home by their father, their mother, Morgan Fey, had another daughter whom she named Pearl. This also makes Maya and Mia Fey Iris' cousins, born to Morgan's younger sister Misty.
- Iris' nickname for Phoenix in college was "Feenie." She also uses it when she reveals who she is to him.
- The pink sweater Phoenix wears in the first case was a gift made by Iris. The "P" on it stands for Phoenix.
- Phoenix called Iris "Dollie" when he presumed Iris was Dahlia.

Apollo Justice Timeline:
- Although Iris is not referenced in this game, the majority of the old characters do not get a direct reference. It is vaguely hinted that Phoenix keeps in touch with his old friends. Because the story is told from Apollo's point of view for the most part and Phoenix spends a good deal of time off-screen with little explanation in regards to his actions, it is believed that he probably keeps in touch with all his old friends. We know Phoenix visited Iris after the end of GS3, so one would assume she would be included. It is hoped by many fans that Iris will make a return or at least be referenced in GS5.

Notable Supporters?
Maya Fey (in game character) - She teases Phoenix about Iris after their first meeting, so it's hard to gauge how serious she was.

Alternate Names:
Fans tend to refer to the pairing as P/I which is derived from the first letter of both characters' names, Feenris which is a mixture of the beginning of Iris' nickname for Phoenix and the end of Iris' name, or NaruAya which is derived from a combination of the characters' Japanese names (Naruhodou and Ayame).

Done. I think. Rewrote a couple more sections I thought could use a bit of tidying up.
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I just quickly came in to check on a few things. Great job everyone! I like it a lot so far.
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You are completely awesome, Fran! Thanks so much! The page is now up. If you're curious, it's here. Also, thanks Super Judge Bro. for helping me with the set-up because I was pretty lost.



Back on topic, I like Violet but Lily and Mia are still among my favorites for a girl. I like Ash for a boy as well, although it reminds me of Pokemon a bit too much. :yuusaku:
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Why not 'Ashley' if it's a girl?

*Snicker snicker*
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*sniff sniff*

Fran, you're the BEST! ;O;

No! To those who helped make that article possible, EXCELLENT AND LOADS OF LOOOOOVE! :larry:
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Ohmigosh! The article is beautifully written!!

And yeah, Ash does remind me of Pokemon a little, but I still think it's an awesome name.

"Ashley" is going a liiiittle too far. :keiko:
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...Say, guys. There's something that's been bothering me since 3-5. And it was with Iris' idea of spirit channeling.

From what I recall, she said "that it never really helped anyone. The truth is...I hate it."

I'm curious about this. I mean, it sounds like she wants to repress this power considering she and Dahlia were kicked out by their mother(well don't get me wrong! I don't know whodunnit since they all had their own account of the DL-6 incident).

I also think she doesn't want anything to do with spiritual power at all. For whatever reason, I still don't have that answer. Anybody?
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You know, I've been meaning to bring that up at some point but just never got around to it. I've always thought it was a particularly interesting line, primarily because it's one of the very few times Iris actually shows something resembling true distaste.

"Talking with dead people... Who does it help anyway? ...I hate it."

I'm thinking there's probably still some bitterness over what happened to her family after DL-6. There's also the fact that she knows what Morgan and Dahlia were plotting for that night...
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I do think it is a matter of all the chaos that has happened because of it. I mean when we think over the game, have we ever seen a period where Iris would have seen spirit channeling used in a positive light? It caused stress between her "mother" (in quotes because Morgan sucked as a mother) and her "aunt" (in quotes for a similar reason). Although I'm not sure how much she would have remembered of that. I think it was deduced that the twins were eight when they left (please correct me if I'm wrong though), so you would think that she would at least have vague memories. Her distaste for it could be subconscious by this point with the seeds being set when the twins were very young. It gets her dragged away from the only home she's ever known and cost Iris her sister in multiple ways. Not to mention, Iris knew how spirit channeling was going to be used that night. All of those experiences are very negative, so I think her reaction to the idea is pretty reasonable. Even Maya and Pearl aren't thrilled with spirit channeling by the end of T&T, although Maya decides to stick with it to honor her responsibilities. There really doesn't appear to have been a period where Iris would have seen spirit channeling cause anything but pain. We know the temple got very few visitors after DL-6 when Iris would have come to live there, so it's unlikely she really got particularly close to spirit channeling again after coming to Hazukura despite it's overall purpose.
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Aha! Thank you. Point taken from Mia_Fey and Fran. :)

Thanks! I think I'll use that.
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Okay, since the name topic seems to be running out of steam, I'll put forward some more silly topics which you guys can then either follow up on or suggest topics of your own. We can keep going with the name topic if you guys want to as well, but I don't want the topic to die and take the thread with it.

1) Where would Phoenix and Iris go on their honeymoon if they got married or any vacations they might take as a couple or family (in my mind I'm taking Trucy into consideration, but she could stay with one of their friends if they wanted a trip for just them)?

2) What would their wedding be like (theme, people invited, songs played, etc.)?

... I said they were silly suggestions. :P I'm always open to better ideas.
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Um, um, um!

I don't know about the honeymoon, but I know that a simple wedding with all their close friends is the ideal wedding between these two! ^_______^
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Larry, Gumshoe, Edgeworth, Apollo, Bikini, Maya and Pearl would all be invited.

...And the Judge too! :D.... *Wishful thinking*
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Well, I want to address this thing first before we go into the silliness.

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I do think it is a matter of all the chaos that has happened because of it. I mean when we think over the game, have we ever seen a period where Iris would have seen spirit channelling used in a positive light? It caused stress between her "mother" (in quotes because Morgan sucked as a mother) and her "aunt" (in quotes for a similar reason). Although I'm not sure how much she would have remembered of that. I think it was deduced that the twins were eight when they left (please correct me if I'm wrong though), so you would think that she would at least have vague memories. Her distaste for it could be subconscious by this point with the seeds being set when the twins were very young. It gets her dragged away from the only home she's ever known and cost Iris her sister in multiple ways. Not to mention, Iris knew how spirit channelling was going to be used that night. All of those experiences are very negative, so I think her reaction to the idea is pretty reasonable. Even Maya and Pearl aren't thrilled with spirit channelling by the end of T&T, although Maya decides to stick with it to honor her responsibilities. There really doesn't appear to have been a period where Iris would have seen spirit channelling cause anything but pain. We know the temple got very few visitors after DL-6 when Iris would have come to live there, so it's unlikely she really got particularly close to spirit channelling again after coming to Hazukura despite it's overall purpose.


Given how the Kurain family traditions are passed down from generations to generations, I do believe that Iris has a right to be angry let alone suspicious in spirit channelling. Remember what Sister Bikini said? The Kurain family line is riddled with intrigue and as well as the odd murder due to power struggles in regards to what is considered superior spirit channelling. Plus it was this that caused her ideal home to be ripped asunder. I'm pretty sure that she was about 9 at least when they were taken away by their father due to that tradition. My sis who studies childhood learning and family support says that the incident will leave a bad memory and also causes the child to hate whatever cause that breakup. Dahlia sees it because of her father whilst Iris may have seen it due to the spirit channelling.

But then again, there lies another problem. Do we know or have we any proof that she or Dahlia for that matter have any ability to conjure the dead? I'm pretty sure she has some feelings when her sister was executed as twins do have a sense of connection to each other and if one does end up gone, the other can usually feel it subconsciously. Also, given the place where she was working/living was full of the stuff, I would imagine that she would have repressed those memories in order to gain a new home to work with. But given that destiny has a sense of irony, I doubt she'll fully trust spirit channelling ever again.


Back to the nonsense, this is rather bold of you to suggest, Mia...

Hmmm, I do believe that the honeymoon location is darn hard as we haven't seen any locations outside of the Phoenix Wright city/world they're in.

Wedding is even hard but I believe simple yet elegant would be the terms to describe it...
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Whoops! Random idea, but something I brought up a long time ago.

I posted here about the flower iris being the symbol of lost love and silent grief. In the language of flowers, it also means, "I Trust You." :ayame:
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Well, I want to address this thing first before we go into the silliness.



But then again, there lies another problem. Do we know or have we any proof that she or Dahlia for that matter have any ability to conjure the dead? I'm pretty sure she has some feelings when her sister was executed as twins do have a sense of connection to each other and if one does end up gone, the other can usually feel it subconsciously. Also, given the place where she was working/living was full of the stuff, I would imagine that she would have repressed those memories in order to gain a new home to work with. But given that destiny has a sense of irony, I doubt she'll fully trust spirit channelling ever again.


I think it's confirmed in the game that neither Dahlia nor Iris has any spiritual power or, if they have some, it isn't enough to be utilized. I believe Iris states herself that she has none. I agree that I think Dahlia's death has something to do with Iris's distaste and it's not impossible that a part of it came through her sisterly bond with Dahlia. But more then that, I think it's more that spirit channeling ripped her family apart and took Dahlia from her which later lead Dahlia to the path that caused her execution.

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Back to the nonsense, this is rather bold of you to suggest, Mia...

Hmmm, I do believe that the honeymoon location is darn hard as we haven't seen any locations outside of the Phoenix Wright city/world they're in.

Wedding is even hard but I believe simple yet elegant would be the terms to describe it...


Bold? Really? I was just being a bit silly. :yuusaku: I agree with your suggestions though. :)

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Larry, Gumshoe, Edgeworth, Apollo, Bikini, Maya and Pearl would all be invited.

...And the Judge too! :D.... *Wishful thinking*


Agreed with all those even the Judge :P
I would also add Trucy, Franziska, Ema, Lana, and Adrian. Probably various other clients would also be invited (I have no idea why but Ron and Desiree come to mind) as Phoenix seemed to retain good relations with most of them and I imagine that they would want to wish Phoenix and his new wife luck. Mia would also probably be channeled at some point to offer her congratulations to the new couple.

I wonder who would walk the bride down the aisle as Iris has no close male relatives or friends that we know of, so that duty would probably fall to one of Phoenix's friends (Probably Edgeworth as I could completely see Larry hitting on Iris as he walked her to Phoenix's side <_< Larry's cute, but he has no common sense).

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I don't know about the honeymoon, but I know that a simple wedding with all their close friends is the ideal wedding between these two! ^_______^


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I posted here about the flower iris being the symbol of lost love and silent grief. In the language of flowers, it also means, "I Trust You." :ayame:


That is so sweet! Not to mention very accurate. I guess the localization team did their homework well in regards to Iris.
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I guess the localization team did their homework well in regards to Iris.

Actually, Ayame means Iris. It's just a direct translation of her original name.

But yes, fitting. :butzthumbs:
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Actually, Ayame means Iris. It's just a direct translation of her original name.

But yes, fitting. :butzthumbs:


Really? That's really interesting. I should be crediting the original creators then who came up with her name and I suppose the localization team for doing a good job in the translation (credit where credit is due <_<). I wish I knew Japanese. :yuusaku: Thanks for the information! :edgy:



Oh, and to add to the list of wedding guests, Maggie would probably be there also.
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Hmm...Responding to a few a few posts back, I think Bikini would be the one leading Iris up the alter, if she didn't walk up herself. I can imagine Bikini bitching about her back, then saying something like, "Well, Iris, are you sure you want me to walk you up the alter?"

Then I can see Iris saying something about how she could get someone else, but Bikini is the only family member left/the only family member she cares about, which would all be really warm and fuzzy.

For guests...Well, hmm. If Mia wanted to redeem herself (in my eyes, anyway), she could ask--while being channeled--for someone to channel Dahlia (Maya, probably, as she'll be the one with the most spiritual power. If not, then Bikini, maybe). I can see Dahlia-while-being-channeled and Iris hugging, with Dahlia being nice.

Genuinely nice, not "fake nice."

For their first dance, I can see Phoenix and Iris waltzing to "L-O-V-E" by Nat King Cole, because I am a sap like that.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JErVP6xLZwg <-- YouTube link.

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She looks like a Feenris Child; I've been converted. :D
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I think Bikini walking Iris down the aisle is a great suggestion and I think that the hug between Iris and Dahlia is adorable, but...

Something would have to be done to assure that Dahlia would behave. When she is defeated at the end of the game, she hates Phoenix with a passion and would kill Maya without a second thought. Dahlia seems to show no remorse for her actions and there really isn't anything to suggest that she wouldn't simply try again if given the opportunity. I think Dahlia is an incredible character and I would love to believe that Dahlia would be willing to put her own issues aside for that sweet scene at her sister's wedding, but I have some trouble picturing it (and if Dahlia knew that Iris was in love with Phoenix when she tried to kill him, which is mentioned in the game if I'm remembering correctly, it strikes me as being unlikely that Dahlia would let Iris's feelings interfere too much with her own plans). Besides, I find it unlikely that Phoenix would be willing to take the risk of having her channeled unless there was some way to make sure Dahlia would behave and, as far as I can recall, the medium has no real control after channeling a spirit.

Final verdict from me, I think it's an adorable idea and I want to believe it could happen like that but I find it unlikely. No one has to agree though.
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:) I'm too much of a hopeless romantic to keep Dahlia Dearest in character.

I agree, though, they'd need someone really powerful to keep Dahlia in line. In That Case Where Turner Grey Dies--2.2?--there's a line that says--basically--that "really powerful spirit mediums can control the spirit"; maybe?

Ahahahah. I've romanticized they Fey family too much. I need to go study for chemistry; that always puts me in a bad mood, again...
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It happens to all of us, DahliaXKristoph. :P And chemistry is simply evil... good luck with it!


Not strictly pairing pics, but cute and they are related to the topic of this thread.
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I'm pretty positive this is intended to be Iris dressed as Dahlia because of the dark color of her hair (and there is also a small young Phoenix/Iris comic on this site which I posted at an earlier time). Isn't she pretty? :)
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Feenie is rather cute. Annoying at times, but cute.
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Wow...Iris looks beautiful. And Feenie is just plain adorable. I wanna hug him!!
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We need more chatting in this thread. Topics welcome. :)

In the meantime, I'll add Vera to the list of invited wedding guests as Apollo's date. :P



Lotta and Oldbag would probably show up uninvited since they seem to show up everywhere. :yuusaku: Maybe Brushel as well. With Phoenix's reputation, I imagine that his wedding would draw a certain amount of attention from the media unless he and Iris could keep things quiet.
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Okay! I checked the Court Records "Characters" page because I'm cool like that, and...well, here:

Some have already said, but here's my complete "guest list":

Maya, Edgey, Pearl, Fran--I can see her celebrating ;)--Lana, Jake, Adrian, Eldoon--c'mon, they need a caterer!--Trucy, Angel, Neil, Cody, Penny, The Judge, Shoe, Klavier, Larry, Ron & Dessie, Apollo, Maggie with Gumshoe, Will Powers, Viola, Ema, Lamiroir, Valent, Vera, and Drew Misham.

Oh. And I lied.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8vSWGNqI-sI Would totally be playing during their after ceremony. :)

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