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Are the Feys still Japanese in our version?
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Which makes me wonder, are all the Fey women of Japanese descent in our version of the series? Obviously it's never said aloud where they come from like the von Karma's were, but there's still a lot of Japanese influence seen in Kurain, which makes me believe most of the population there might originate from Japan. Perhaps Ami Fey came over from Japan, set up shop in California, and the village was founded from there.
Just an idea I'm pondering. Any thoughts?
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There is a possibility they have Japanese heritage, but at least Morgan tries to get it off from her shoulders.
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(2-2, examine the blue poster on the meditation room wall)
A piece of cloth with a ton of finely-written characters jammed onto it.
Probably esoteric knowledge only mediums would know.
...Hmm, let's see...
Here's one in English...
It says...
"100 Ways To Save Money"
...
Being a medium sounds like a rough way of life...
A piece of cloth with a ton of finely-written characters jammed onto it.
Probably esoteric knowledge only mediums would know.
...Hmm, let's see...
Here's one in English...
It says...
"100 Ways To Save Money"
...
Being a medium sounds like a rough way of life...
That, and the Folding Screen/Other signs and stuff are in japanese all around Kurain village. And Morgan's kimono.
So I'm pretty sure they're Japanese.
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Nego wrote:
They might be Japanese, but I think that at least Morgan prefers herself as an American, as she does not like Lotta as she thought she was foreigner.
There is a possibility they have Japanese heritage, but at least Morgan tries to get it off from her shoulders.
There is a possibility they have Japanese heritage, but at least Morgan tries to get it off from her shoulders.
No, I'm pretty sure she just thought Lotta was an idiot, and "foreigner" was just her euphemism for that.
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However, everything about the Kurain tradition really points to it being a rather native Japanese tradition.
If you look at the location images for Kurain Village, the channeling room, and the Hazakura courtyard, you'll see shimenawa with shide attached, something quite common at Shinto shrines or other Shinto holy sites. Maya's training via standing under a waterfall reminds me a lot of the Shinto purification process called misogi as well.
I can't be sure about the Japanese version, but I know in the English version Mia says that Ami was named for Amida, the Japanese name of Amitabha, a Buddha who helps guide people to the Pure Land in order to help them reach nirvana in their next incarnation. Pure Land Buddhism was at one point incredibly popular in Japan.
On a less religious aspect, there is the magatama. Magatama appear in early Japanese archaeological sites and the jewel of the Japanese Imperial Regalia is a magatama. There's also the traditional Japanese architecture at Kurain and Hazakura. The spare room at Kurain has tatami mats and Japanese style futons.. You see the folding screen, a lot of references to things with characters on them.. Very Japanese. There's also the matter of the clothing of nuns, acolytes, and Morgan. All of them seem to wear Japanese style clothing. Morgan especially, even her hair, but she's obviously native to America (thus her Lotta the foreigner comment).
Obviously most of these things are things that couldn't be changed for the American version. They really couldn't redo everyone's sprites and the backgrounds. That's probably the actual reasoning behind it. But there are definitely a lot of unexplained items of Japanese origin involving the Fey family almost exclusively. So although it's never really addressed, it can be inferred that the Kurain tradition is influenced by Japanese religious traditions, thus implying that the Fey family has some sort of connection to Japan.
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asgarda wrote:
Nego wrote:
They might be Japanese, but I think that at least Morgan prefers herself as an American, as she does not like Lotta as she thought she was foreigner.
There is a possibility they have Japanese heritage, but at least Morgan tries to get it off from her shoulders.
There is a possibility they have Japanese heritage, but at least Morgan tries to get it off from her shoulders.
No, I'm pretty sure she just thought Lotta was an idiot, and "foreigner" was just her euphemism for that.
Well, if she thinks "foreigner" is an euphenism for an idiot, she realizes what a jerk she herself is. I mean if Ami (or some other) came to the States from Japan, Morgan would be a daughter of a foreigner. (Ok, if that's the case then everyone in the US are foreigners...)
Or something.
Uh, nevermind...
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It seems pretty reasonable, it's not like America has a homogeneous population.
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(I think it was in the meditation room?)
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Also, during a certain time in our history, when some foreign families emigrated to the US, their names were Anglicized for easier spelling/pronunciation or to avoid prejudice. Perhaps Fey used to be something else entirely and was changed upon arrival?
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Also,
Spoiler: minor 3-5 stuff
That's what I gathered, at least.
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I read and write katakana and hiragana quite well now, but I only know thirty or so kanji. I know that many changes were made between traditional Chinese characters and their Japanese adaptations, but I've always wondered whether learning kanji would help one to learn to read Chinese better as well...
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Now think of it this way, suppose when the Feys theoretically moved to America, they still had a Japanese last name (again, this means that any that stayed would still have that mystery last name), but as we know, the Mediums marry men from outside the village, so someone married, adopted the last name of Fey, and it just sort of carried on from there.
Sorry if this possibility has already been explored, I couldn't be buggered to read all the posts before typing this number up.
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What I want to know is, if PW takes place in Los Angeles, and Eagle Mountain is as close by as it seems to be...and high up...where would it be, I wonder?
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Baby Bonnie Hood wrote:
Here's another question: What's Victor Kudo doing all the way in America, where there are absolutely no kimonos to embroider? XD
I'd have him embroider mine if I had one
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Baby Bonnie Hood wrote:
Here's another question: What's Victor Kudo doing all the way in America, where there are absolutely no kimonos to embroider? XD
That reminds me. If he came from Japan, why the heck is his name American? :P
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Super Judge Bro. wrote:
That reminds me. If he came from Japan, why the heck is his name American? :P
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hammerspace wrote:
At one point I can remember that Phoenix says writing on one item in Kurain is Chinese. I found that completely weird.
(I think it was in the meditation room?)
(I think it was in the meditation room?)
And you expect Phoenix to be able to tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese anything? (Well, maybe restaurants. Heh.)
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(That's why Nick could read them...even in the English version囧）
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valentinite wrote:
hammerspace wrote:
At one point I can remember that Phoenix says writing on one item in Kurain is Chinese. I found that completely weird.
(I think it was in the meditation room?)
(I think it was in the meditation room?)
And you expect Phoenix to be able to tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese anything? (Well, maybe restaurants. Heh.)
No, but I would have expected him to know enough about Maya's family to assume it to be Japanese as it'd be a more logical conclusion. But then this is Phoenix...
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I'm sure it was Japan, I remember some reference to it. I wish I could pull the quote directly for you, though.
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hammerspace wrote:
At one point I can remember that Phoenix says writing on one item in Kurain is Chinese. I found that completely weird.
(I think it was in the meditation room?)
(I think it was in the meditation room?)
its kanji(a chinese characters)
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火曜日 wrote:
All the characters are Chinese, but the words are organized in a very classical way, too classical to be used by modern Chinese, and that means it is Japanese, whose part of it was taken from Chinese thousands years ago.
(That's why Nick could read them...even in the English version囧）
(That's why Nick could read them...even in the English version囧）
I doesn't bother me that they're chinese...I am chinese..^^ Sorry, it was an unnecessary comment..:3
But really, they have to be Japanese, cause Fey sounds more Japanese :/
Don't have any good signs..
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Super Judge Bro. wrote:
Baby Bonnie Hood wrote:
Here's another question: What's Victor Kudo doing all the way in America, where there are absolutely no kimonos to embroider? XD
That reminds me. If he came from Japan, why the heck is his name American? :P
Did he come from Japan? He could be born American but with Jappenese decent & loves Old Japan even if he never lived in it.
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Superninfreak wrote:
Super Judge Bro. wrote:
Baby Bonnie Hood wrote:
Here's another question: What's Victor Kudo doing all the way in America, where there are absolutely no kimonos to embroider? XD
That reminds me. If he came from Japan, why the heck is his name American? :P
Did he come from Japan? He could be born American but with Jappenese decent & loves Old Japan even if he never lived in it.
What if he was born in Japan, but with American descent? That explains his name AND his love for kimonos.
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On a less religious aspect, there is the magatama. Magatama appear in early Japanese archaeological sites and the jewel of the Japanese Imperial Regalia is a magatama. There's also the traditional Japanese architecture at Kurain and Hazakura. The spare room at Kurain has tatami mats and Japanese style futons.. You see the folding screen, a lot of references to things with characters on them.. Very Japanese. There's also the matter of the clothing of nuns, acolytes, and Morgan. All of them seem to wear Japanese style clothing. Morgan especially, even her hair, but she's obviously native to America (thus her Lotta the foreigner comment).
I could be wrong, but I thought the Magatama was a secred relic in Shinto? (The jewel, sword, and shield.)
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Remember remember Mainframes Surrender
The Megaframe Treason and Plot
I know of no Reason
The Virus Treason
Should ever be Forgot
Megabyte Megabyte twas his intent
To blow Bob into the Net
Threescore ABCs of Virals below
To prove old Mainframe’s overthrow
The Megaframe Treason and Plot
I know of no Reason
The Virus Treason
Should ever be Forgot
Megabyte Megabyte twas his intent
To blow Bob into the Net
Threescore ABCs of Virals below
To prove old Mainframe’s overthrow
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lmegabyte wrote:
I could be wrong, but I thought the Magatama was a secred relic in Shinto? (The jewel, sword, and shield.)
Yes. I have 5 different magatama and I wear one each day. They are deeply rooted in the Shinto traditions.
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