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True that past canon characters can appear, but they can't really appear as characters with a huge role which would destroy Apollo's and Trucy's roles. And you do realize when Trucy first appeared as a mysterious girl with forged evidence, she turned out to be a present canon character with a huge role in the whole game. Not as a past canon character who used to have a huge role.
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hikari_rekka wrote:
True that past canon characters can appear, but they can't really appear as characters with a huge role which would destroy Apollo's and Trucy's roles. And you do realize when Trucy first appeared as a mysterious girl with forged evidence, she turned out to be a present canon character with a huge role in the whole game. Not as a past canon character who used to have a huge role.


I dont really expect past characters to come back with big roles (except for ema, Phoenix, and the judge.) People keep saying that there is no chance what so ever, because he has no relation to any of the past characters at all.
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Alcotholic wrote:
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True that past canon characters can appear, but they can't really appear as characters with a huge role which would destroy Apollo's and Trucy's roles. And you do realize when Trucy first appeared as a mysterious girl with forged evidence, she turned out to be a present canon character with a huge role in the whole game. Not as a past canon character who used to have a huge role.


I dont really expect past characters to come back with big roles (except for ema, Phoenix, and the judge.) People keep saying that there is no chance what so ever, because he has no relation to any of the past characters at all.

Of course there's a chance...but to tell the complete, honest truth...I only want to hear about "where they are now", and then that's it--it's time to move on. I finally realize why Apollo Justice is truly an amazing leap forward: we have heard of the story of "Phoenix Wright", but that's it--it's just one story. Introducing a new main character opens up possibilities so that we can explore the "Ace Attorney" universe more fully than we could ever have done with a single, fixed main character.

In other words, the more "new" things are introduced, the more we can explore the Ace Attorney universe. That's what makes Apollo Justice so fascinating to me! :odoroki:
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Haibara~n wrote:
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True that past canon characters can appear, but they can't really appear as characters with a huge role which would destroy Apollo's and Trucy's roles. And you do realize when Trucy first appeared as a mysterious girl with forged evidence, she turned out to be a present canon character with a huge role in the whole game. Not as a past canon character who used to have a huge role.


I dont really expect past characters to come back with big roles (except for ema, Phoenix, and the judge.) People keep saying that there is no chance what so ever, because he has no relation to any of the past characters at all.

Of course there's a chance...but to tell the complete, honest truth...I only want to hear about "where they are now", and then that's it--it's time to move on. I finally realize why Apollo Justice is truly an amazing leap forward: we have heard of the story of "Phoenix Wright", but that's it--it's just one story. Introducing a new main character opens up possibilities so that we can explore the "Ace Attorney" universe more fully than we could ever have done with a single, fixed main character.

In other words, the more "new" things are introduced, the more we can explore the Ace Attorney universe. That's what makes Apollo Justice so fascinating to me! :odoroki:


Thats what I would like to know actually, because I would be very upset at Capcom if they dont tell me what is up wid Pearl, Maya, Gumeshoe, and the rest of the people. but yeah... what you said is true and I pretty much want 1 turnabout or something of the like explaining what happened to the people we knew and loved before AJ came. And I would like to see how they have changed physically seeing as Phoenix is pretty different from the 7 year change.
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Pearl and Maya have their own village to run, so I doubt that they'll be here. Gumshoe should still be in the area, so there are chances of him appearing in the next game as always. Mia is in the spirit world as always, so there isn't even any need for her to take the mentor's role when Phoenix has it especially since she freely admitted in the last game that he won a case that even she couldn't win, so no point in her appearing when Phoenix does a good job(He survived all life and death situations, is that proof enough?)... Edgeworth is studying foreign judicial systems, so he'll obviously be out of the country. Godot won't come back(You'll know why in T&T), but you can expect him to come back in the spirit world. Yeeaah.... So in other words, all the characters are too busy with their own lives to appear in AJ unless there's a murder involved.
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I had a cool idea a while ago. In a case (probably the last case, since this would be epic) Both Phoenix and Apollo are involved in the murder in some way. For reasons of their own, Phoenix REALLY thinks the client is guilty and Apollo REALLY thinks the client is innocent. Apollo still takes on the case. Phoenix gets angry and somehow convinces Edgeworth to come back from overseas and prosecute the case. (This would be his small cameo role, in my mind. :D)

Turns out that Apollo was right and Phoenix was wrong. Apollo's client gets the Not Guilty verdict. Apollo and Phoenix make up eventually. I think this would effectively separate Apollo from Phoenix, so he can figure this stuff out on his own and be a lawyer his own way.

Spoiler: AJ case 4
Of course, this game has to include more Apollo character development, who his father was and what happened to him, and why he wanted to become a lawyer in the first place. I also think the game needs more information about the Gavins, particularly Kristoph. How did he get that scar?

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How about another murder at Kurain?

And the accused ISN'T Maya?
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How about another murder at Kurain?

And the accused ISN'T Maya?

who would die?
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...particularly Kristoph. How did he get that scar?

Yes, good, exactly. That's another thing I'd like cleared up, actually...

GS4 left us with way too many questions to leave me satisfied. I suppose that means that there will be plenty of content available for GS5, though, which is always great.
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fatalfeline wrote:
Spoiler: AJ case 4
...particularly Kristoph. How did he get that scar?


Spoiler: Reply is a AJAA spoiler...
Maybe he spent all night cutting himself after Zak rejected him.

Wow, that sounds like a teenage drama LOL.

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SujiRyuu wrote:
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Spoiler: AJ case 4
...particularly Kristoph. How did he get that scar?


Spoiler: Reply is a AJAA spoiler...
Maybe he spent all night cutting himself after Zak rejected him.

Wow, that sounds like a teenage drama LOL.


Wow, he didn't even know how to cut himself properly! LOOOOOL!
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fatalfeline wrote:
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fatalfeline wrote:
Spoiler: AJ case 4
...particularly Kristoph. How did he get that scar?


Spoiler: Reply is a AJAA spoiler...
Maybe he spent all night cutting himself after Zak rejected him.

Wow, that sounds like a teenage drama LOL.


Wow, he didn't even know how to cut himself properly! LOOOOOL!

That's because he's a
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That's because he's a
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prettyboy. Didn't 4-4 teach us that? He couldn't be emo if he tried.


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I bet he listens to classical when he's "good" and when he's "bad" he listens to death metal that would scare the leather pants right off of Klavier. XD

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I bet he listens to classical when he's "good" and when he's "bad" he listens to death metal that would scare the leather pants right off of Klavier. XD

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Haibara~n wrote:
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I bet he listens to classical when he's "good" and when he's "bad" he listens to death metal that would scare the leather pants right off of Klavier. XD

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Alcotholic wrote:
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How about another murder at Kurain?

And the accused ISN'T Maya?

who would die?


...Pearl. :godot:

Oh, and can someone say Steel Samurai Pt. 3? It'll be even more epic than 2-4! Seriously, though. I want to return to this story.

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Perhaps, Nick gets involved in another murder/incident/whatever. Except, this happens in the middle of another case. Apollo is left with the decision to help his mentor, or save his defendant. This should be minutes before the last day of the trial, with Apollo having plenty of evidence, but little time. This is a grueling choice on Apollo, like the Guilty or Not Guilty thing in 2-4.

((This part I'm not so sure about, as it generally is kind of senseless and probably wouldn't work. ))
Also like 2-4, it's a false decision, as [One of Nick's old friends turned lawyer, Maya or Edgeworth, perhaps?] shows up during the opening statement of whichever trial you choose, perhaps even earlier, to save the day.

Maybe the next case could have Apollo taking over Nick's case, attempting to bump aforementioned friend out of the spot, with him/her/it doing the same right back. This could also lead to an interesting Attorney/Aide relationship, with Nick's old buddy and Apollo both believing they're the Attorney, when of course Apollo really is. Apollo might even be picking up the other's monologue to pick up the case, like all the Aides do.

Perhaps it wouldn't even have to be Nick's case. Trucy, or another returning Ace Attorney character that Nick is begging Apollo to defend.

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Some X-Files case would be cool, or not.
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Spoiler: 4-4&Godot's identity
I've been thinking about the MASON system a bit, and since Godot/Diego as well as other attorneys from the Grossberg Law Offices have been appearing in the monthly snapshots, maybe GS5 will have an opportunity to play through one of Diego's trials--he got a not guilty for his client, but the true criminal was never found, and the statute of limitations is nearly up, so you use the MASON system to find the true killer... Something like that? I think that'd be cool. :haykitten: Of course, this is speaking as a complete Godot fangirl... orz

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Case 1: Turnabout Deluge
One of :garyuu: 's flashback cases. A young, stuttering :odoroki: is accused of drowning his friend in a lake. You are helped by a younger :kyouya: and the third Gavin, Kirsten. Prosecutor is, you guessed it, :payne: The killer is one of Apollo's friends, who murdered his girlfriend. A camera she was wearing took a picture of him pushing her, and came into possession of her sister. When the killer tried to kill the sister, the victim saw him and he killed him.

Case 2: Turnabout Mindset
:kyouya: and :Maki: are playing at a bar when the bartended dies. :odoroki: and :minuki: must defend :kyouya: , due to the bottle of poison in his guitar case. You must also try to convict a man who is pretending to be mentally ill. Prosecutor is an older :edgeworth: The killer is a mentally ill man who pretended to be the detective in charge of the scene. He was actually being paid by a mysterious man.

Case 3: Turnabout Aerie
:odoroki: and :minuki: are eating at a posh restauraunt in the middle of a storm. The owner is pushed from the thirty-storey building to his death. Kirsten Gavin is found confessing to the crime. Prosecutor is :edgeworth: again, and they dive into the world of French mafia and African revolutions. Killer is the restaurant's chef, who was paid by another mysterious man.

Case 4: Turnabout Mystery
A prison warden is shot in the head in front of :garyuu: 's jail cell. The shotgun is tossed into his cell. Prosecutor is :edgeworth: , and :odoroki: is convinced that someone is trying to frame his former mentor, despite the :udgy: 's ideas. Killer is a visiting biologist who had a love affair with one of the inmate's wives. When the victim arrested the inmate, the wive committed suicide. Revenge, along with another payment by the mysterious man.

Case 5: Denouement Of The Turnabout
Despite the uncovering of the last case, :edgeworth: manages to convict :garyuu: , who manages to escape from the death penalty by breaking out of jail. :odoroki: must try to protect Kristoph by proving his innocence before he is found. Meanwhile, a bomb goes off in a crowded place, killing several people. Three are witnesses from past cases, who are not who they appear to be. Killer is the older brother of case 1's killer, who killed his accomplices and tries to kill :garyuu: and :odoroki: .

What do you think? :violin:
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Case 1: Turnabout Deluge
One of :garyuu: 's flashback cases. A young, stuttering :odoroki: is accused of drowning his friend in a lake. You are helped by a younger :kyouya: and the third Gavin, Kirsten. Prosecutor is, you guessed it, :payne: .

Case 2: Turnabout Mindset
:kyouya: and :Maki: are playing at a bar when the bartended dies. :odoroki: and :minuki: must defend :garyuu:, due to the bottle of poison in his guitar case. You must also try to convict a man who is pretending to be mentally ill. Prosecutor is an older :edgeworth: .

Case 3: Turnabout Aerie
:odoroki: and :minuki: are eating at a posh restauraunt in the middle of a storm. The owner is pushed from the thirty-storey building to his death. Kirsten Gavin is found confessing to the crime. Prosecutor is :edgeworth: again, and they dive into the world of French mafia and African revolutions.

Case 4: Turnabout Mystery
A prison warden is shot in the head in front of :garyuu: 's jail cell. The shotgun is tossed into his cell. Prosecutor is :edgeworth: , and :odoroki: is convinced that someone is trying to frame his former mentor, despite the :udgy: 's ideas.

Case 5: Denouement Of The Turnabout
Having uncovered the mastermind behind the past three crimes, :odoroki: and :minuki: put their lives on the line to prove the criminal, the brother of the man Kristoph convicted in Case 1, guilty. It ends with a tense stand-off in the courtroom, with the killer holding a detonator under the stand.

What do you think? :violin:


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I'd love to see the accused being Apollo and letting Phoenix take over. But that's a little unlikely.
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I wonder if GS5 will be out this year or next? Probably next year.
ATM I doubt :phoenix: will get his badge back.
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I wonder if GS5 will be out this year or next? Probably next year.
ATM I doubt :phoenix: will get his badge back.


It probably will be out this year in japan, but next year in the US
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Strategydom, I agree Case 1 and 5 especially sound excellent, but theyre all very good :D
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For all those people who want Phoenix to become a prosecutor [!] [why?], here we go..

[BTW, this is somewhat crack, and contains GS4 spoilers]

Maya is murdered [she miraculously survives and escapes, since I'd kill them otherwise, but is missing and presumed dead] and all the evidence points to Apollo. Phoenix becomes a prosecutor to put away Maya's murderer. Apollo is put on trial, defending himself. Apollo decides Klavier was the murder and tries to convict him. However, really the murderer was Mr Injustice, Apollo's evil father, who didn't really die just like Thalassa didn't. Apollo's big family mess is epically aired in court. Also, it turns out that pre-accident, Thalassa was plotting along with her partner Mr Injustice [this is why she abandoned him and has continued to obscure his past and relation to Trucy.] on whatever evil things. Such horrors Apollo must come to grips with! His long-lost parents are so evil, and Phoenix thinks he's a murderer!

In the end, Apollo gets Mr Injustice put away, Thalassa is supposedly a nicer person since she got shot in the head, Apollo knows his relationship to Trucy and the circumstances of his abandonment, Maya returns for a touching reunion with Phoenix, etc. Alternatively, Phoenix could convince Edgeworth to prosecute instead of being one himself [he probably isn't qualified, really..]

Alternatively, Apollo's father, the murderer, turns out to be Damon Gant.
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Someone should get murdered while on the can.


At Tres Bien.
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At Tres Bien.


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Someone should get murdered while on the can.


At Tres Bien.


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Strategydom wrote:
Case 1: Turnabout Deluge
One of :garyuu: 's flashback cases. A young, stuttering :odoroki: is accused of drowning his friend in a lake. You are helped by a younger :kyouya: and the third Gavin, Kirsten. Prosecutor is, you guessed it, :payne: .

Case 2: Turnabout Mindset
:kyouya: and :Maki: are playing at a bar when the bartended dies. :odoroki: and :minuki: must defend :garyuu:, due to the bottle of poison in his guitar case. You must also try to convict a man who is pretending to be mentally ill. Prosecutor is an older :edgeworth: .

Case 3: Turnabout Aerie
:odoroki: and :minuki: are eating at a posh restauraunt in the middle of a storm. The owner is pushed from the thirty-storey building to his death. Kirsten Gavin is found confessing to the crime. Prosecutor is :edgeworth: again, and they dive into the world of French mafia and African revolutions.

Case 4: Turnabout Mystery
A prison warden is shot in the head in front of :garyuu: 's jail cell. The shotgun is tossed into his cell. Prosecutor is :edgeworth: , and :odoroki: is convinced that someone is trying to frame his former mentor, despite the :udgy: 's ideas.

Case 5: Denouement Of The Turnabout
Having uncovered the mastermind behind the past three crimes, :odoroki: and :minuki: put their lives on the line to prove the criminal, the brother of the man Kristoph convicted in Case 1, guilty. It ends with a tense stand-off in the courtroom, with the killer holding a detonator under the stand.

What do you think? :violin:


Too much Edgeworth, they'll have a new guy/girl for prosecutor in case 2&3 i bet. Case 4 should be Klavier or Edgeworth and Case 5 (if they have a 5) should be the opposite of whoever was in 4 (if Klav have Edgey and vice-versa)
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After all, look at all the artwork of :godot: we're getting! And Armando taught Mia, who taught Phoenix, who taught Apollo. So, as far as we know, :javado: is the original Ace Attorney! But for capcom to be this cool... I have my doubts :yuusaku: Oh, and please comment on the image in my fanart thread, not here... Lets stay on topic! :udgy:

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How about this, murder in a courtroom. Then you can explore the rest of the courthouse while investigating. :P

Well I think it would cool...
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Do that and I'll throw grape juice at u

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how about this: Apollo's life is in danger if he doesn't get his client guilty, that'd be like really hard for apollo since he believes in justice

Use Phoenix Wright: Ace hobo and Apollo liek 1 case hobo, 4 cases apollo
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The Law is just a Game...

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Super Judge Bro. wrote:
How about this, murder in a courtroom. Then you can explore the rest of the courthouse while investigating. :P

Well I think it would cool...


Seconded.
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OBJECTION!

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yaoigirl15 wrote:
how about this: Apollo's life is in danger if he doesn't get his client guilty, that'd be like really hard for apollo since he believes in justice

Use Phoenix Wright: Ace hobo and Apollo liek 1 case hobo, 4 cases apollo


I really like that idea!
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