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Apollo's most popular love interest at the moment is Trucy.
That will probably not happen, as you see...

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I like Coppo's idea a lot. It may have to be tweaked a bit but I think it would fit rather well in the story.

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Hmm. I think they should give Apollo a love intrest, though... I mean, Feenie had Dahlia/Iris. :yogi:
Just a thought. :D


Funny how I instantly thought "Vera Misham" and then noticed your avatar! And I'm not even a fan of any pairing.
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They're only HALF brother/sister though - so technichally would they be comitting incest? I don't know. But incest or not, there's something dodgy about that idea, IMO. I thought about ApolloxTrucy made a nice couple, until I found out the truth....


And AJ didnt have a cliffhanger ending per se but it was a blatant "To Be Continued"
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Hmm. I think they should give Apollo a love intrest, though... I mean, Feenie had Dahlia/Iris. :yogi:
Just a thought. :D


Funny how I instantly thought "Vera Misham" and then noticed your avatar! And I'm not even a fan of any pairing.

BINGO!!! :maya:
But really, they outta let Apollo and Trucy know about their... relationship in GS5. Maybe then the pairing will stop growing. :chinami:
Yeah... I don't like Trolly. :sadshoe:
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FEMM the Attorney wrote:
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Hmm. I think they should give Apollo a love intrest, though... I mean, Feenie had Dahlia/Iris. :yogi:
Just a thought. :D


Funny how I instantly thought "Vera Misham" and then noticed your avatar! And I'm not even a fan of any pairing.

BINGO!!! :maya:
But really, they outta let Apollo and Trucy know about their... relationship in GS5. Maybe then the pairing will stop growing. :chinami:
Yeah... I don't like Trolly. :sadshoe:


I dunno about PollyxVera I mean...I think Vera is awesome and Polly is cute and I can see why she might like him given all he did for her.
But something just don't feel right.

I'd rather see some... LamiroirxHoboNick I think it's a nice pairing.

As for Polly's lovelife? They need to introduce someone soon, Iris didn't get very well received to my knowledge cause...well she was so "LAST MINUTE GIRLFRIEND". If Vera and Apollo were going out by the start of AJ2, yea...it could work. Though I still feel they need to introduce someone else for Polly.

Oh and just to suggest an idea....
They need to use the Percieve more often I feel, out of court should add a lot more...same with the forensics....though if by cutting the forensics out they cut Ema Skye out of the picture completely I'd totally approve of a no-forensics game. :garyuu:
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As for Polly's lovelife? They need to introduce someone soon, Iris didn't get very well received to my knowledge cause...well she was so "LAST MINUTE GIRLFRIEND". If Vera and Apollo were going out by the start of AJ2, yea...it could work. Though I still feel they need to introduce someone else for Polly.


But you'd have the Klavier/Apollo shippers getting really angry. Personally I think they should just hint a few pairings with Apollo and let us debate the pairings like we do with Phoenix.
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As for Polly's lovelife? They need to introduce someone soon, Iris didn't get very well received to my knowledge cause...well she was so "LAST MINUTE GIRLFRIEND". If Vera and Apollo were going out by the start of AJ2, yea...it could work. Though I still feel they need to introduce someone else for Polly.


But you'd have the Klavier/Apollo shippers getting really angry. Personally I think they should just hint a few pairings with Apollo and let us debate the pairings like we do with Phoenix.


:beef: OOOOOOHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO I upset Klavier/Apollo shippers?! And I'd NEVER want to do that :kikzou:

They can go cry in a corner, besides Nick had a canon lovelife, it was just brought in too late to be utilised well.
The writers didn't hint anything they gave us an answer but seeing as shes not there in AJ1 I'm guessing Iris didn't work out or something....probably reminded Nick of Dahlia too much.

Either way I'm fine with them not even being paired at all, like it was for most of Phoenix's saga. I don't turn to AA for a love story, I turn to it for a fine exciting game.
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What about if Apollo could use the Percieve/Psyche Lock system in investigations? I don't see why that couldnt work, for Psyche locks all Nick has to do is give Apollo the Magatama.
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What about if Apollo could use the Percieve/Psyche Lock system in investigations? I don't see why that couldnt work, for Psyche locks all Nick has to do is give Apollo the Magatama.


I would like to see him use both.....like

:odoroki: *perceive* THERE! That twitch...it's so clear now
:kaori: I have absolutely no idea what your talking about. *5 psyche locks appear*
:apollo-shock: WHAT?!

Though I think Icer said if they brought the Magatama back properly they'd have to bring the whole Fey Family into it so...I'd rather they left it out if it involved all the Feys again.
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:D Using both Psyche Locks and Perceieve sounds good.
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I don't see how the Feys must be included if the Magatama is involved. They explained the Magatama in 4-4 without mentioning the Feys. If they work it right, bringing up the Magatama again could be used to get people who tuned in at Apollo's arc to go back and try out Phoenix's trilogy, rather than bring Phoenix's past into the present.
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That's a good point. Did Nick mention the Feys to Edgeworth when he gave him the Magatama?
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That's a good point. Did Nick mention the Feys to Edgeworth when he gave him the Magatama?


If he did...I don't think Edgeworth would've taken the Magatama. I think he would've smashed it on the ground and stomped on it for good measure.
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That's a good point. Did Nick mention the Feys to Edgeworth when he gave him the Magatama?


If he did...I don't think Edgeworth would've taken the Magatama. I think he would've smashed it on the ground and stomped on it for good measure.


Thats true Edgeworth used it fine....Icer is known for wanting to have the Fey's back maybe she is just being wishful but....
I imagine newcomers to Apollo's story would be WTF? The Magatama wasn't really explained in 4-4 either, only vaguely and some new fans may have been confused.
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AJ was the first AA game I had ever played, but somehow the magatama thing didn't confuse me. Instead I was just like "Oh, cool."
I don't see why it would have been confusing. :yuusaku:
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I'd like to see Apollo get his own magatama.
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Apollo already has his own Magatama of sorts with his perceive ability, but he can always borrow Phoenix's. If he gets his own then that pretty much would mean he came across a Fey or someone related to their teachings.
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I'd like to see Apollo use the Percieve ability outside of court.
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I agree, the perceive should work outside of court too. There were a few times in AJ that he almost used his bracelet on people, but he would always wait until court...
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Maybe that will be something they bring in for GS5/AJ2, it would be like Nick with his Psyche Locks.
Interviewing people in the investigation phase made it harder, you weren't always sure if you had the right evidence and stuff. That would be cool.
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What if this game is rated 15+ or 18+?
Then we can have other crimes besides murder. We neeed that. D<

But my general idea of the game is that all the cases are tied together, and one by one you discover different facts of a case that's revealed in the final case.
Or maybe the game goes backwards. O____O
The last case is the very beginning of the whole plot, where everything is revealed!
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What if this game is rated 15+ or 18+?
Then we can have other crimes besides murder. We neeed that. D<

But my general idea of the game is that all the cases are tied together, and one by one you discover different facts of a case that's revealed in the final case.
Or maybe the game goes backwards. O____O
The last case is the very beginning of the whole plot, where everything is revealed!
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I don't think it'll EVER be rated that high.

I like AA as the semi-cute thing, keep the torment and rape out of it.
Plus they just be going chop to lower age ranges.
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True, I guess, despite what I posted, I can't see PW being that bad. DD:
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But my general idea of the game is that all the cases are tied together, and one by one you discover different facts of a case that's revealed in the final case.
Or maybe the game goes backwards. O____O
The last case is the very beginning of the whole plot, where everything is revealed!
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That would be kind of interesting to see how that would work...
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Shelly de Killer got away with it at the end of JfA...would like to see that corrected.

How about a murder in the prison? You can have lots of cameos that way. The defendant is an accomplice in a previous case, or maybe Diego Armando, somebody who would have been released soon.

Bring back Franziska as a prosecutor, get her connected somehow with Klavier.

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Shelly de Killer got away with it at the end of JfA...would like to see that corrected.

How about a murder in the prison? You can have lots of cameos that way. The defendant is an accomplice in a previous case, or maybe Diego Armando, somebody who would have been released soon.

Bring back Franziska as a prosecutor, get her connected somehow with Klavier.

Edgeworth should have his LL.M--make him the new judge.


Welll.......you know De Killer kinda joined your side. Without him you wouldn't have got the true villain to crack on the stand and he did take care of Maya.

Plus he gives HILARIOUS testimony.
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Take care of Maya???
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Take care of Maya??? He almost starved her to death!


hush you.

A De Killer comeback would be nice, but they'd have to make it someway different from what it was last time. I don't want just another rehash of 2-4. If they can find something interesting they could do with it then go ahead, but otherwise, it would be best just to let him go out with a bang. Earlier people had ideas how he could show up in GK and you have to "find his successor" in a large setting.
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5-1: Past case, phoenix. Phoenix hasn't taken a case in ages, so he loses his knack. Maya is your aide, payne is prosecutor, and your defendant is very mysterious.

5-2: Present case. Apollo. Trucy is arreseted on suspition on killing some kid called Emma Nems (I love that pun)
Maya is your aide. New prosecutor.

5-3: Present case, normal stuff. Apollo. Nothing majorly important happens here. Same prosecutor as last case. Apollo has painful memories of his father. Trucy aide.

5-4: Past case, Phoenix yet again. It's the same defendant as the first case in this game-the prosecutor is Lucian Justice (Apollos dad :udgy: ) Maya Aide. When you win, the defendant seems unwilling to be not guilty.

5-5: Present case, playing as Apollo. The same defendant (AGAIN) as cases 1 and 4. Prosecutor Lucian Justice is the new prosecutor when our common one can't take the stand. The storyline falls into place here.

Lucian Justice is the uncle of the defendant, she was Pearl Fey. This makes Apollo and Pearl cousins (And Lucian a two-timer with Thalassa (Right?) and Morgan! :igarashi: ) . But Lucian was trying to get Pearl into prison and if she wasnt in prison: 'He would get her.'


Sucks, I know. I'll probably think A LOT more about the lkast case, just can't be bothered right now.,
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5-1: Past case, phoenix. Phoenix hasn't taken a case in ages, so he loses his knack. Maya is your aide, payne is prosecutor, and your defendant is very mysterious.

5-2: Present case. Apollo. Trucy is arreseted on suspition on killing some kid called Emma Nems (I love that pun)
Maya is your aide. New prosecutor.

5-3: Present case, normal stuff. Apollo. Nothing majorly important happens here. Same prosecutor as last case. Apollo has painful memories of his father. Trucy aide.

5-4: Past case, Phoenix yet again. It's the same defendant as the first case in this game-the prosecutor is Lucian Justice (Apollos dad :udgy: ) Maya Aide. When you win, the defendant seems unwilling to be not guilty.

5-5: Present case, playing as Apollo. The same defendant (AGAIN) as cases 1 and 4. Prosecutor Lucian Justice is the new prosecutor when our common one can't take the stand. The storyline falls into place here.

Lucian Justice is the uncle of the defendant, she was Pearl Fey. This makes Apollo and Pearl cousins (And Lucian a two-timer with Thalassa (Right?) and Morgan! :igarashi: ) . But Lucian was trying to get Pearl into prison and if she wasnt in prison: 'He would get her.'


Sucks, I know. I'll probably think A LOT more about the lkast case, just can't be bothered right now.,


Ouch, bias against Trucy much? She's barely ever an aide in your idea and she makes much more sense as an aide than Maya who is completely irrelevant to the whole story... Also, making Justice the uncle of Pearl is a bad move, I think... her family's already complex enough as it is.

A lot of people are suggesting that Apollo's father comes back in. I wonder if GS5 will follow that...
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5-1: Past case, phoenix. Phoenix hasn't taken a case in ages, so he loses his knack. Maya is your aide, payne is prosecutor, and your defendant is very mysterious.

5-2: Present case. Apollo. Trucy is arreseted on suspition on killing some kid called Emma Nems (I love that pun)
Maya is your aide. New prosecutor.

5-3: Present case, normal stuff. Apollo. Nothing majorly important happens here. Same prosecutor as last case. Apollo has painful memories of his father. Trucy aide.

5-4: Past case, Phoenix yet again. It's the same defendant as the first case in this game-the prosecutor is Lucian Justice (Apollos dad :udgy: ) Maya Aide. When you win, the defendant seems unwilling to be not guilty.

5-5: Present case, playing as Apollo. The same defendant (AGAIN) as cases 1 and 4. Prosecutor Lucian Justice is the new prosecutor when our common one can't take the stand. The storyline falls into place here.

Lucian Justice is the uncle of the defendant, she was Pearl Fey. This makes Apollo and Pearl cousins (And Lucian a two-timer with Thalassa (Right?) and Morgan! :igarashi: ) . But Lucian was trying to get Pearl into prison and if she wasnt in prison: 'He would get her.'


Sucks, I know. I'll probably think A LOT more about the lkast case, just can't be bothered right now.,


Geez whats your beef with Trucy? You haven't even given good reason for bringing Maya back.
I'd really rather keep Pearl and Maya miles away happily in Kurain Village then avoid the place like the plague.
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I like those ideas apart from always making Maya the aide (not that dislike Maya), but I like Trucy too.
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Geez whats your beef with Trucy? You haven't even given good reason for bringing Maya back.
I'd really rather keep Pearl and Maya miles away happily in Kurain Village then avoid the place like the plague.


Yeah, the characters were good in Phoenix's arc, but their story has been wrapped up enough and introducing anything new would be overkill. Unless the two of them just became witnesses or cameod but I doubt that. I don't want the GS series to just become fanservice.
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Scarred_owl wrote:
5-1: Past case, phoenix. Phoenix hasn't taken a case in ages, so he loses his knack. Maya is your aide, payne is prosecutor, and your defendant is very mysterious.

5-2: Present case. Apollo. Trucy is arreseted on suspition on killing some kid called Emma Nems (I love that pun)
Maya is your aide. New prosecutor.

5-3: Present case, normal stuff. Apollo. Nothing majorly important happens here. Same prosecutor as last case. Apollo has painful memories of his father. Trucy aide.

5-4: Past case, Phoenix yet again. It's the same defendant as the first case in this game-the prosecutor is Lucian Justice (Apollos dad :udgy: ) Maya Aide. When you win, the defendant seems unwilling to be not guilty.

5-5: Present case, playing as Apollo. The same defendant (AGAIN) as cases 1 and 4. Prosecutor Lucian Justice is the new prosecutor when our common one can't take the stand. The storyline falls into place here.

Lucian Justice is the uncle of the defendant, she was Pearl Fey. This makes Apollo and Pearl cousins (And Lucian a two-timer with Thalassa (Right?) and Morgan! :igarashi: ) . But Lucian was trying to get Pearl into prison and if she wasnt in prison: 'He would get her.'


Sucks, I know. I'll probably think A LOT more about the lkast case, just can't be bothered right now.,


I think having the same defendants at one game is quite boring. But I like your pattern of cases here, following the GS3 format.

Past-Present-Present-Past-Present

I also like your idea of having different prosecutors for each case but don't you think it would be more interesting if there would be a more significant person in case 5 (and with that I don't mean either Edgeworth or Lana cause we've already seen enough of them)
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Yeah its a bad idea. I would have trucy as an aide more (Don't get me wrong i like trucy) but when she's in prision she can't be your aide, and in the past cases she... well I guess she could but i wasn't really thinking it out properly. It was just an idea anyway, didn't mean to say i hate trucy, she's cool.
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Yeah its a bad idea. I would have trucy as an aide more (Don't get me wrong i like trucy) but when she's in prision she can't be your aide, and in the past cases she... well I guess she could but i wasn't really thinking it out properly. It was just an idea anyway, didn't mean to say i hate trucy, she's cool.


I think having Trucy as the defense aide more would be a better choice during the Apollo arc. If Maya were to be an aide once more, I think it would be a bad idea.

Yeah, sure it's f***ing cool to see the old gang back but the idea of Maya being an aide is one idea that is already three games old. Maybe it would be better for her to be an investigative partner instead of being a defense aide.
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Well in PW she was a investigation partner as well as defense aide but I kinda like that idea as well.
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Yeah its a bad idea. I would have trucy as an aide more (Don't get me wrong i like trucy) but when she's in prision she can't be your aide, and in the past cases she... well I guess she could but i wasn't really thinking it out properly. It was just an idea anyway, didn't mean to say i hate trucy, she's cool.


I think having Trucy as the defense aide more would be a better choice during the Apollo arc. If Maya were to be an aide once more, I think it would be a bad idea.

Yeah, sure it's f***ing cool to see the old gang back but the idea of Maya being an aide is one idea that is already three games old. Maybe it would be better for her to be an investigative partner instead of being a defense aide.


Likewise...plus it doesn't make much sense for her to be able to just reappear in Apollo's Arc now.

She's the master of the Kurain tradition she's got a lot more responsibilities now than when she was with Phoenix.

If Trucy has to be held in the detention center then it's not unfeasible for Apollo to get by on his own. After all he knows how to use his bracelet and when Maya was a suspect in 1-2 she wasn't able to be Phoenix's aid and he did fine right?
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jptorres26 wrote:
Scarred_owl wrote:
(To all above comments)
Yeah its a bad idea. I would have trucy as an aide more (Don't get me wrong i like trucy) but when she's in prision she can't be your aide, and in the past cases she... well I guess she could but i wasn't really thinking it out properly. It was just an idea anyway, didn't mean to say i hate trucy, she's cool.


I think having Trucy as the defense aide more would be a better choice during the Apollo arc. If Maya were to be an aide once more, I think it would be a bad idea.

Yeah, sure it's f***ing cool to see the old gang back but the idea of Maya being an aide is one idea that is already three games old. Maybe it would be better for her to be an investigative partner instead of being a defense aide.


Likewise...plus it doesn't make much sense for her to be able to just reappear in Apollo's Arc now.

She's the master of the Kurain tradition she's got a lot more responsibilities now than when she was with Phoenix.

If Trucy has to be held in the detention center then it's not unfeasible for Apollo to get by on his own. After all he knows how to use his bracelet and when Maya was a suspect in 1-2 she wasn't able to be Phoenix's aid and he did fine right?


Now that you've mentioned about Maya being the Kurain master, I bet she could lend Apollo a magatama to help him in his investigation. I think the magatama would be better cause I can't really imagine the Perceive to be used outside the courtroom.
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Now that you've mentioned about Maya being the Kurain master, I bet she could lend Apollo a magatama to help him in his investigation. I think the magatama would be better cause I can't really imagine the Perceive to be used outside the courtroom.


Nope for one thing SHE'S IN KURAIN! The story has no reason to go there. Besides Perceive could totally be used outside the courtroom?
What you think witnesses aren't pressured outside the courtroom? Phoenix did it all the time with his Magatama, Apollo can see what they are lieing about using Percieve.

Besides a simpler explanation would be to make Phoenix lend Apollo the magatama without veering the story off to Kurain
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