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Re: OnyxAlchemyst's Sprites (was Lisa's image always that big?)Topic%20Title
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Although what you did was small, it still helped me a great deal. Image

And his request is a pretty simple one, and I'll likely have it finished by tonight, even with the homework I have. It also gives me something to do instead of homework. XD
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Although what you did was small, it still helped me a great deal. Image

And his request is a pretty simple one, and I'll likely have it finished by tonight, even with the homework I have. It also gives me something to do instead of homework. XD


Yeah, I only remembered how to fix that problem when I tested the image out in GIMP and noticed (replace).

Lol, I was about to send you a PM for a request but I no longer need it unfortunately :(
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Don't worry, I made it anyway! Meep

It's a little hard to see though, because you didn't give me any details. :edgy:







Seriously, it's just a blank image. XD
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Haha, a blank image :p

Though I did edit my post a few seconds later as I wasn't sure whether you could do my request as I only have the base sprites of his individual poses and not the blinking and talking frames :P
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Yeah, I haven't actually made any of my own true sprites myself, so it would be best if you get some speaking and blinking frames in.Image

You can also just give me the bases with the blinking eyes and mouth separate, and I can just paste them on as I animate them, no problem. I'm pretty flexible. Image

I'm already almost finished with Sonic's animations though. Easier than I thought. XD
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Haha...using my favour are we? Actually, I didn't consider helping you and your statement as you owing me anything (as it was only something pretty easy to fix) however Super is desperate.

Desperate? Thanks for making me sound like a wimp, pal. :p
And you did say I could use that "favor."
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Phew. Just did one of the heaviest edits of a character I've done to date. I took this sprite
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And turned her into this
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(right click image and select "view image" for best view)


I think it's pretty clear where the inspiration came from:
Spoiler: Captian obvious
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Okay, maybe I do have a bit of a crush on Keiko, but that's not the point.
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Very neat! The animation is smooth!
Would you do the same thing with normal Lisa? Would be awesome.
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Sounds interesting, I'll do that.
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Done! Image

Here it is, next to the red version.
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I feel like I'm about to be swarmed by overeager tomatoes...
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Somehow I'm not surprised about a vegetable fruit reference from you. XD

I do admit I'm doing a lot with that red lisa of mine. Maybe I should find someone else to use...
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New sprite!

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Franny wants a swiss roll. XD
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Where did her hips go?? :whip:

This was made from her crying animation, right? The colors on the lower half of her torso are darkened from the shadow of her arms... Since her arms are no longer there, you should make the colors match her other sprites. She's at a slight angle in most of her sprites, but a shift this small wouldn't create that much shade.
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Okay, I admit I could have done better redrawing her coat, but that's only the second sprite I've done that for, so I just need more practice. >__<

Plus, her coat was in shadow even above where her arms were, so I didn't try to add more light to it. I also imagine her leaning forward slightly too, although I wasn't able to figure out a good way to do that.
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Sorry to say, but it's not your best sprite. The body proportions are very bad; she looks completely unnatural.

'Practice' is not the key word here, and it's quite silly of you to use that as an excuse. The key word is 'anatomy'.It's not actually that hard. Actually, you could've used your Lisa sprite as a reference to how redraw Franziska's body.

Anyway... Since she's holding her hands in the back, her chest should be pushed more to the front and her breasts shouldn't be squeezed together like that. Also, the innermost parts of the leg o'mutton sleeves shouldn't be visible, as she'd be covering them with her chest.

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Here's a picture, I hope it will be easier to understand what I'm talking about.
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Re: OnyxAlchemyst's Sprites (Franny wants a swiss roll) XDTopic%20Title
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Yeah, anatomy is something I have trouble with.

When I did Lisa, the part I had to redraw was fairly small in comparison, which is why that one turned out better. For some reason, I thought Franziska's hips were a lot lower. I guess I'll go give Franny another try. I'll be back.
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Okay, keeping both of your suggestions in consideration, I've made another Franny.
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I haven't animated it yet, because I think I'll wait until I get some more feedback on this one first. That way, I won't have to animate it over and over again with new versions of the sprite. >__<
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Your shading goes straight down, rather than flowing out with her hips.
Where her arms go behind her back could also stand to be shaded more.

...How many times would I have to refresh to see all of the sprites in your signature?
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O, that's much, much better now! The shading on her breasts was a little wonky, I fixed that for you:

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Oh, and to add to what Chesu said, make her waist a little slimmer and the hips rounder. The shape should be more 'hourglass' and less 'keyhole' and it will be nice ;3 I'd fix it for you, but I'm supposed to be doing my homework, haha. (argh, what happened to the sweatdropping Phoenix emote? D: I can't find it anywhere)
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I was actually thinking that, but the sprite is transparent and on a dark background, and I was too lazy to paste it in to Paint to check where the hips end. :oops: *cough*pagesix*cough*
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Thanks, that'll come in handy. I was just noticing the shading was wrong on her chest, and I was like "Now I have to fix THAT too!" and I can just stick the new torso over the one I'm already working on without having to lose my progress. Image

And instead of pasting it into paint to view it, you can right click it and select "view image", which will take you to a page with a white background with the image. ^_^

I'm also technically IN school right now, but since I'm homeschooled, I can spent it all in front of my computer. As long as my work gets done, my Mom doesn't care what I do. Image
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OnyxAlchemyst wrote:
I'm also technically IN school right now, but since I'm homeschooled, I can spent it all in front of my computer. As long as my work gets done, my Mom doesn't care what I do. Image


Lucky! :D I had some days off recently, as the head-master excused me from the classes, since I was preparing a contest, but now that it's over I have a whole lot to catch up on...a surprising amount of tests and exams included. :headbang:
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Last week, I had to do two dozen psychology quizzes that I had procrastinated on for two months. Not a very good idea. >__<

And this is probably going to be the final version, since the more I mess with her hips, the wonkier it looked. Plus, I've been screwing around with this sprite pretty much all morning, so I kindasorta just want to get it done...
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Okay, I am now considering this sprite completed. Feel free to continue critiquing it as you will, just keep in mind that I'm probably not going to do much of anything with that sprite anymore. >__<
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OnyxAlchemyst wrote:
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Okay, I am now considering this sprite completed. Feel free to continue critiquing it as you will, just keep in mind that I'm probably not going to do much of anything with that sprite anymore. >__<

Her ribbon/cravat thing and boobs need to bounce too.
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Spoiler: AAI Case 4
It's something to look into, but my next project is going to do a version with young Franny.

Of course, that's only if I don't explode from cuteness overload first. >w<

But the authorities of my household are telling me to "Get off the damn computer and go to bed!" so that'll have to wait until tomorrow...
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And here's Franny!

Spoiler: AAI
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...Hopefully someday... xD

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Again; the cravat too and not just hair.
Things that need movement are:
- the hair on her forehead
- cravat thing

Other than that: Pretty bouncy ^^
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I've been tinkering with the sprite, but so far, my attempts at also animating the hair and the glorified ribbon have only turned it into a mess, especially the hair on her forehead.

Give me some more time on that.
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*update* Okay, I think I managed to get that cravat done more or less well, but the hair is still a problem.
Spoiler: >__<
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Put that behind a spoiler, please.
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My bad. Changed. >__<
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You'll need to change the thread title too D=!
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OnyxAlchemyst wrote:
It's something to look into, but my next project is going to do a version with
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young Franny.


Of course, that's only if I don't explode from cuteness overload first. >w<

But the authorities of my household are telling me to "Get off the damn computer and go to bed!" so that'll have to wait until tomorrow...

this one needs spoiler tag too.
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Ack! That character is a handful with all the spoilers needed! I think I have all of them now... I hope...
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After several hours of tweaking, failed attempts, and many facekeyboards, I have decided that getting the forehead hair to bounce was too much trouble for it's worth, so I'm going to leave it as it is.

Spoiler: AAI Case 4
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I was able to get the cravat bounce though.


I'm not quite sure what my next project is going to be, but It'll probably be something I won't need to have spoiler tags all over when I post it. >__<

I may go and revisit my previous Franziska animation, and try to add more bounce to that one, but probably only if enough people tell me that I should.
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The lack of bouncing on the fringe isn't very noticeable; I think the sprite looks good as is and it doesn't need any more tweaking. :butzthumbs:

I think I'd go back and fix the older Franzy a little; she doesn't need many changes at this point and it would make the sprite look much better. To be more precise, you could make her cravat and breasts bounce slightly; it doesn't make much sense for them to stay still. Just... don't overdo the breasts.
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Don't worry, I'm not going to make them jiggle like April's. :april:

They'll probably only move one pixel, like my other Franny's cravat. Noticeable, but not extreme.
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Here we go.
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The cravat gave me a lot of trouble. >__<

Anyway, I'm sprited out for today, plus my old computer is at it's limit with all of the applications I've had to have running.
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