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There's only been a few tweets about this, so I'm not comfortable calling this confirmed, but looking over the accounts involved (primarily @earlbox and Gamestalk) there's some history of accurate early Famitsu info, so I'll put it out there.

According to the leaker, Sherlock Holmes will appear in Dai Gyakuten Saiban (presumably as the rival character). This version's Watson is an eight-year-old girl.

Both characters were silhouetted on the official site recently:
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For now, best to treat this as a rumor, but it does seem just crazy enough that Takumi would do it.

Update: enough other sources are picking this up that we're calling it confirmed. From Gematsu:

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Detective of the century Sherlock Holmes will appear in The Great Ace Attorney alongside eight-year-old M.D. and literary girl Iris Watson, this week’s Famitsu reveals.

Together with Holmes, protagonist Ryuunosuke Naruhodou will investigate incidents. However, that doesn’t seem to mean the pair will be together at all times.

Famitsu also introduces a new element called “Joint Reasoning.” As Naruhodou and Holmes work together to solve mysteries, players will point out where Holmes is taking his reasoning further than the truth in order to get to the bottom of what really happened.

As far as the game’s flow goes, it will be similar to previous entries in that it follows detective and courtroom parts. This time, however, it will have both 3D characters and 3D backgrounds. And the actual depth of the background will be utilized (meaning, the character can actually go into the background).

The Great Ace Attorney is due out for 3DS in Japan in 2015.


Update 2: First scan of Holmes (thanks Mijimaru):

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Update 3: Some scans and screenshots over at Kotaku, including a look at Watson!

Update 4: Full scans, and some new info:

  • Ryuunosuke begins the game in Japan, where as a college student he’s involved in a certain case that puts him on the path to becoming a formal attorney. To better study law, he transfers to England along with Mikotoba, where he meets Holmes.
  • Most of the story will take place in London, with Japan serving as the setting for Ryuunosuke’s first case.
  • Court and investigation proceed in mostly the same way, but during investigations Ryuunosuke and Holmes will use “joint reasoning” - a system where, as Ryuunosuke, you must point out any inconsistencies in Holmes’ rapid-fire reasoning. (The example shown is Holmes accusing a witness of being a certain revolutionary.)
  • Part of the reason they settled on 3D was to allow for a very dynamic camera to match Holmes’ high-speed thinking. Takumi jokes that Holmes really set the stage for the game!
  • Takumi has a deep love of the Sherlock Holmes stories, so he’s trying to respect the character. Holmes is described as falling somewhere between the “storybook Holmes” and a “real Holmes” - a man who focuses maybe too much on his investigations, but isn’t a bad person at heart.
  • Ryuunosuke and Holmes’ meeting is a key point of the game.

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Huh. I'm a little bit skeptical that it IS Sherlock Holmes, rather than just a fan, or an impersonator, and I'm not sure how it would turn out if it awes the man (I'm pretty sure he never went to Japan in any of his stories :P) but I can't say I'm not intrigued. Only a few days till official conformation!
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I'd be very happy if this ended up official (although little girl Watson would take me some serious getting used to, lol). To see the legendary character that pioneered the mystery genre finally crossover into my favorite mystery game. Rumor's rumor though so I won't get myself excited just yet.
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(I'm pretty sure he never went to Japan in any of his stories :P)


Well, he does know the Japanese art of "baritsu". Also, DGS could be set in the blank years after Reichenbach Falls.

But then again, a Japanese speaking Holmes would mess up all those Natsume Soseki / Sherlock Holmes crossovers people for some reason love to write...
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Siliconera just reported the same thing, too:
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/09/sh ... -attorney/

Not sure what to think, but it does go with the silhouettes.
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Well screw the defence attorney, gimme an Ace Attorney Investigations game where I play just as Sherlock Holmes and Little Girl Watson.

Though I'd almost certainly peg Holmes' as a detective character rather than a prosecutor and I'm still a bit sceptical it'll be the literal Holmes himself.
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I feel like it'd be more plausible if they were some sort of nod to Holmes and Watson and not the real deal. That would be kind of weird since all the other characters are original. That said, a Sherlock-like character with a little Watson would be awesome. And that kid looks cool.
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I'd be a little uneasy if they were named "Holmes" and "Watson", because if you've gone out of the way to make new character designs, the least you could do is make them brand new characters. Hopefully this unsettling feeling won't detract from the usual immersion AA games have.
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I thought the silhouette looked familiar, but I figured/hoped that it wouldn't be done, so I'm gonna continue to hold onto that. And really, if it IS Sherlock Holmes, I'll be on their case so fast on how he looks nothing like described in the book and, once again, he'd be drawn in that stupid tweed outfit that he technically never really wore in the books...

But then, I'd also wonder exactly why Sherlock (and Watson) are in feudal Japan and their law system.

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I can't say I approve but if anyone could pull it off, it's Takumi.
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I can't say I approve but if anyone could pull it off, it's Takumi.


Takumi would make Sherlock a complete joke character, ignoring that Sherly was pretty serious at times. Also, I doubt he'd take over the canonity that Sherly tended to use drugs to keep himself going. :ron:

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This seems a little silly
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That's rather interesting, though I wonder if it'll be the actual Holmes and Watson (within the AA universe, that is - I'm well aware the Watson in the books isn't a little girl) or just inspired by/named after them.


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This seems a little silly


In a series where you can cross examine parrots, radios, spirits, convicts, face a samurai and a whip-toting sadist in court, and meet all sorts of wacky, messed up people, this seems almost too normal in comparison to me.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?! :meekins: How are they even going to pull this off? I'm amazed yet skeptical about this rumour...
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?! :meekins: How are they even going to pull this off? I'm amazed yet skeptical about this rumour...


Exactly my feels about this. Like what!?
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Meifeng wrote:
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?! :meekins: How are they even going to pull this off? I'm amazed yet skeptical about this rumour...


Exactly my feels about this. Like what!?


I know right? Having one of the most famous characters of all time as a rival prosecutor?!
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?! :meekins: How are they even going to pull this off? I'm amazed yet skeptical about this rumour...


Exactly my feels about this. Like what!?


I know right? Having one of the most famous characters of all time as a rival prosecutor?!


Impossible to pull off, because if this WAS Sherlock, they'd be absolutely wrong since Sherly was a detective and never a prosecutor.

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Updated with more info from Gematsu. This is... certainly a thing.
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I.... what??!
I'm not sure if this is crazy.... or awesome.
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This will be... Interesting to say the least. I'm pretty sure he will fill the detective role instead of prosecution. Iris Watson being 8 and an md apparently will probably be the medical examiner.
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I have to be honest, I'm really into this, as silly or as bad as it could be. I think it has a ton of potential, and I really enjoy Sherlock Holmes as a character, so if it's handled right it could be great. I think the key here is that A) He's a detective, not a prosecutor (I'd find it hard to believe) and B) That the overall story somehow involves him (a case he's working on, or something of personal importance). I wouldn't really think its worth it if it was just "I want to study police procedure in other countries" or something. I also hope they make Watson Dr. Watson's daughter or something, as I wouldn't really like them getting rid of the original Watson. I hope they make him a Holmes that has seen some experience and that they incorporate the history of the character (by which I mean treat this as another sequel in the Holmes story, rather than a prequel or reboot). And although the Deerstalker wasn't in the original books and is a style I'm not a big fan of (I preferred the slob/bowler-hat look of the Downey Jr. Films), I think if you are going to put Holmes in something that's not a Holmes game then people are going to recognize the deerstalker, so I see why they used it.

Either way, I really hope this gets localized, because if we end up getting a "Sherlock Holmes vs. Phoenix Wright" I want to be able to play it sometime soon.
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Umh.. What's an M.D. ? :adrian:
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But then, I'd also wonder exactly why Sherlock (and Watson) are in feudal Japan and their law system.

My thoughts exactly... I trust Takumi's ideas, but what is Sherlock Holmes doing in Japan?
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This is either going to go very, very well or very, very badly. There is no in-between. (Although personally I'd place my bets more towards very, very well. I'm looking forward to this and I will be pissed if it's not localized.)
Speaking of localization, I find it kind of funny that Iris Watson's first name is, well, Iris. Maybe they'll change it to Ayame for the US.
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Hey guys, maybe the antagonist's name is suppose to be a PUN for Sherlock Holmes?
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Umh.. What's an M.D. ? :adrian:


It stands for Medical Doctor. I actually hadn't read that part about Watson, and that adds to my uncertainty a little bit. I have enough of a hard time buying a 13 year old Prosecutor, but this is going to be really hard to just roll with unless they come up with some kind of crazy reason.

Also, I'm betting that the ACTUAL Dr. Watson is going to be missing or involved in the crime and will be found/the crime will be resolved in the end.
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Ah that's cool to hear they're working together for the truth, I would've found it weird if he was destroying Sherlock in court given his intellect. Although I was excited for the possibility of 2-d graphics returning I'm fine with 3D by now (and the camera angles they allow during dramatic moments) so all's well. Can't wait until we get a new trailer. :maya:
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Ah that's cool to hear they're working together for the truth, I would've found it weird if he was destroying Sherlock in court given his intellect. Although I was excited for the possibility of 2-d graphics returning I'm fine with 3D by now (and the camera angles they allow during dramatic moments) so all's well. Can't wait until we get a new trailer. :maya:


As long as they keep the DD way of matching the sprite movements, I'm good with the 3D. I'm not digging everyone's movements in PLvsAA, though. It looks so slow and out of place.
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So, when should scans be released?
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This begs the question: Does this mean Professor Layton, Sherlock Holmes, and Ace Attorney all take place in the same universe?

I'm really excited about this, not gonna lie.
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Famitsu also introduces a new element called “Joint Reasoning.” As Naruhodou and Holmes work together to solve mysteries, players will point out where Holmes is taking his reasoning further than the truth in order to get to the bottom of what really happened.

As far as the game’s flow goes, it will be similar to previous entries in that it follows detective and courtroom parts. This time, however, it will have both 3D characters and 3D backgrounds. And the actual depth of the background will be utilized (meaning, the character can actually go into the background).

Am I the only one who cares about this more than the character reveals? We can go INTO the backgrounds, guys! That means we can walk all over the place AND teleport! Yaaaaaay! but it's probably going to be like the "zoom" function from the PL games

"Joint Reasoning" sounds like an interesting concept. I'm hoping for something along the lines of the "zapping system" from the Detective Conan games, but it might just be some form of connecting the dots. Or, maybe it's something in-between! I'm not sure how it'll work out, but it sounds cool.

Even on the off-chance that this leak isn't completely true, I'd at least want these points to be.
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I'd say this elevates the chances of it being localized. And as Airey pointed out, this will probably either turn out awesome or a catastrophy... but I'm feeling hopeful for now. Especially when it comes to Watson, for some reason. Here I thought Franziska was a child prodigy but a 13-year old prosecutor's got nothing on an 8-year old M.D. :franny:
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This begs the question: Does this mean Professor Layton, Sherlock Holmes, and Ace Attorney all take place in the same universe?

I'm really excited about this, not gonna lie.


Yeah it's really appealing. I just hope they make it similar enough to the history books that you could, say, read all the books and then jump into this and nothing would clash too much. Obviously Watson is different but like I said before I'm not necessarily convinced this is AA's version of the "John Watson" character.
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Moriarty should be the prosecutor :sahwit:
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Moriarty should be the prosecutor :sahwit:

Will he get his own head-banging or explosion when we find out what he's been up to?
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Or the last cases features two victims, at the foot of a cliff. Oh, wait... :eh?:
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