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I could have sworn Apollo's father died in an accident on stage. Therefore, how can he be the villain?

How did dahlia terrorize phoenix in 3-5?
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~love-n-light~ wrote:
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I could have sworn Apollo's father died in an accident on stage. Therefore, how can he be the villain?

How did dahlia terrorize phoenix in 3-5?


Are you implying that apollo's father would be channeled? That would be awsome! It's like two awsome moments in one. But would would be the channeler? Well it could either be Pearls, Maya, or perhaps a daughter or cousin.
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I'm hoping it will be a new character...specifically A PIRATE. :godot:

And he won't be the prosecutor....
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I like the thought of Magnifi still being alive and evil, but I don't like the thought of him knowing real magic... It just feels so out of place.
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I can't see Magnifi being evil though.
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Maybe, but it would be a great plot twist.
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A totally ridiculous plot twist! Not only did he get shot in the head, but he had liver cancer and an autopsy. The odds of him being alive are nil.
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Some people have already mentioned this as a possibility, but I seriously think we could see Kristoph return. :garyuu:

Why? At the very least, the black psyche-locks were never explained (and no, I don't think Apollo just broke them in court, even if he couldn't see them). Plus, he's at least as likely to return as Dahlia because of his consistent and overwhelming connections with the devil. (To see where I'm coming from, check out http://gamesforjames.blogspot.com/2009/09/lucifers-face-themes-surrounding.html.

Of course, when I clear my head from the haze of hare-brained theories, I realize that, in reality, he's almost DEFINITELY not going to be GS5's final villain, but all I can do is speculate (and hope).

It'll probably actually be some new character. *sigh*
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Some people have already mentioned this as a possibility, but I seriously think we could see Kristoph return. :garyuu:


I like the idea of Kristoph coming back in some capacity, but not as the final villian that you have to break. He would have to spontaneously combust on the stand to outdo his DBZ Breakdown. :beef:
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I dunno, knowing Capcom, they might have him do just that...:hotti:
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Kristoph turned into a mutant didn't he? :D Epic.
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Some people have already mentioned this as a possibility, but I seriously think we could see Kristoph return. :garyuu:


I like the idea of Kristoph coming back in some capacity, but not as the final villian that you have to break. He would have to spontaneously combust on the stand to outdo his DBZ Breakdown. :beef:


You know what would be nice? You would have to defend Kristoph Gavin.........Oh man.....I would like that...
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Hmmm... interesting.
Wouldnt that be a bit like Matt in 2-4?
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Hmmm... interesting.
Wouldnt that be a bit like Matt in 2-4?


But if Kristoph were actually innocent of the crime...

Oh man, epic awesomeness! :redd:
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
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Hmmm... interesting.
Wouldnt that be a bit like Matt in 2-4?


But if Kristoph were actually innocent of the crime...

Oh man, epic awesomeness! :redd:


That was my idea.....Everybody would think he is the killer. All except Apollo or Phoenix if you want....
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If I say.....I think he or she is has a conect to Kristoph Gavin.
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Hmmm... interesting.
Wouldnt that be a bit like Matt in 2-4?


But if Kristoph were actually innocent of the crime...

Oh man, epic awesomeness! :redd:


I have to say that is actually a really interesting idea. Apollo will have to put his past aside then.
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Probably someone with a HUGE connection to all the cases.
WAIT, I KNOW! THE DEVELOPER XD
Spoiler: AJ case 4
No,Most likely the one who invented the MASON System, because we don't know ANYTHING about him, there is no info on the game about MASON System's Creator or about it's origins.

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Probably someone with a HUGE connection to all the cases.
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No,Most likely the one who invented the MASON System, because we don't know ANYTHING about him, there is no info on the game about MASON System's Creator or about it's origins.


Phoenix created the MASON System
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It would be interesting (if a wall banger) if Phoenix was actually the main villain for GS5. Heck I'm even starting a fanfiction which shows Phoenix as a prosecutor in an AU where Lamirior didn't vote not guilty in 4-4.
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Probably someone with a HUGE connection to all the cases.
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No,Most likely the one who invented the MASON System, because we don't know ANYTHING about him, there is no info on the game about MASON System's Creator or about it's origins.


Phoenix created the MASON System

You're sure about that, it could be anyone, phoenix is the guide but no sighs of him creating it...
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Probably someone with a HUGE connection to all the cases.
WAIT, I KNOW! THE DEVELOPER XD
Spoiler: AJ case 4
No,Most likely the one who invented the MASON System, because we don't know ANYTHING about him, there is no info on the game about MASON System's Creator or about it's origins.


Phoenix created the MASON System

You're sure about that, it could be anyone, phoenix is the guide but no sighs of him creating it...

No he said it was made by him and all the recordings he did with the smiley face on his hat.
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Oh, in that case, my mistake....
though it's kinda hard to belive....
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Someone new, in my opinion.

Although, if it was someone who appeared in the PW games and returns, I wouldn't complain. Something that's a bit of a twist.
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
Some people have already mentioned this as a possibility, but I seriously think we could see Kristoph return. :garyuu:

Why? At the very least, the black psyche-locks were never explained (and no, I don't think Apollo just broke them in court, even if he couldn't see them). Plus, he's at least as likely to return as Dahlia because of his consistent and overwhelming connections with the devil. (To see where I'm coming from, check out http://gamesforjames.blogspot.com/2009/09/lucifers-face-themes-surrounding.html.

Of course, when I clear my head from the haze of hare-brained theories, I realize that, in reality, he's almost DEFINITELY not going to be GS5's final villain, but all I can do is speculate (and hope).

It'll probably actually be some new character. *sigh*


Agreed, I kind of felt that it was anti-climatic. The black psych-locks, the incredible breakdown... All to find out, what? He wanted revenge? He was prideful? Thats not much of a surprise, in my opinion.

You know what might be cool? If Kristoph was in cahoots with someone, someone who WANTED the jurist system to be in place, so that he could use it to his advantage.

In fact, that just sparked an idea! What if some super-evil guy gets arrested for a crime, and Apollo defends him? The evil guy would put on a good show, talking about how he didn't do it and what not, really making Apollo think he is innocent. Then, when they finally go to court, Apollo fights tooth and nail for the evil guy, and, even though all of the evidence is stacked against Apollo, Apollo manages to get the guy off because he makes the jury "feel" like he is innocent...

This would really show the darkside of the jurist system, and would be a kick in the face to both Apollo and Phoenix. However, I have no idea how Apollo would make it right again... Perhaps it should be a multi-case ordeal?

Idk, just a random idea. :yogi:
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What if some super-evil guy gets arrested for a crime, and Apollo defends him? The evil guy would put on a good show, talking about how he didn't do it and what not, really making Apollo think he is innocent. Then, when they finally go to court, Apollo fights tooth and nail for the evil guy, and, even though all of the evidence is stacked against Apollo, Apollo manages to get the guy off because he makes the jury "feel" like he is innocent...

This would really show the darkside of the jurist system, and would be a kick in the face to both Apollo and Phoenix. However, I have no idea how Apollo would make it right again... Perhaps it should be a multi-case ordeal?

Idk, just a random idea. :yogi:


That's basically the direction I expect the series to go in now. After all, EVERY game up to now has hammered home the theme of how broken and inadequate the mantra of "evidence is everything" was. The jurist system will be no panacea itself, I'd say. We'll see how it plays out though.
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And what if (granted that he's still alive) it was Apollo's REAL father? I think we all know who THAT is: the-hydeout-gs4/apollo-real-father-revealed-t18436.html

Tee hee hee hee.
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And what if (granted that he's still alive) it was Apollo's REAL father? I think we all know who THAT is: the-hydeout-gs4/apollo-real-father-revealed-t18436.html.


I have read your incredible theory. See my response in the devoted topic, if you would be so kind. :phoenix:
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And what if (granted that he's still alive) it was Apollo's REAL father? I think we all know who THAT is: the-hydeout-gs4/apollo-real-father-revealed-t18436.html

Tee hee hee hee.

That would be awesome.
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So we have reached a conclusion then? AJ's final villain will finally and inevitably be...

:gant:
*GASP!*

Now that would be one hell of a twist :zaviaar:

Also, I just read the theory. 'Tis awesome.
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So we have reached a conclusion then? AJ's final villain will finally and inevitably be...

:gant:
*GASP!*

Now that would be one hell of a twist :zaviaar:


We all know we'd be applauding his return because he's so friggin AWESOME! :gant-clap2:

Someone else already said this, but probably even better than Gant's return would be witnessing Phoenix's reaction...

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...or Apollo's.

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Some people have already mentioned this as a possibility, but I seriously think we could see Kristoph return. :garyuu:

Why? At the very least, the black psyche-locks were never explained (and no, I don't think Apollo just broke them in court, even if he couldn't see them). Plus, he's at least as likely to return as Dahlia because of his consistent and overwhelming connections with the devil. (To see where I'm coming from, check out http://gamesforjames.blogspot.com/2009/09/lucifers-face-themes-surrounding.html.

Of course, when I clear my head from the haze of hare-brained theories, I realize that, in reality, he's almost DEFINITELY not going to be GS5's final villain, but all I can do is speculate (and hope).

It'll probably actually be some new character. *sigh*


I can see where you're coming from. I did wonder about those black psyche-locks.

But I don't think Capcom would bring him back to be honest.
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I'm not sure if I'd like to see Gant return as the main villain (that will probably be a new character) but if he really is Apollo's father it would be great if he could return as a background character (he's most likely dead by the time AJ2 takes place).

Think about it, it would make an epic plot (SL-9 2) and it would also give Apollo some character development. I mean, what if he learns that his missing father is a serial killer (well, almost) and was convicted because of Phoenix, the man Apollo looks up to? How would he react?
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Think about it, it would make an epic plot (SL-9 2) and it would also give Apollo some character development. I mean, what if he learns that his missing father is a serial killer (well, almost) and was convicted because of Phoenix, the man Apollo looks up to? How would he react?


Yay for angst and character development! :gant-clap2:

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I'm not sure if I'd like to see Gant return as the main villain (that will probably be a new character) but if he really is Apollo's father it would be great if he could return as a background character (he's most likely dead by the time AJ2 takes place).

Think about it, it would make an epic plot (SL-9 2) and it would also give Apollo some character development. I mean, what if he learns that his missing father is a serial killer (well, almost) and was convicted because of Phoenix, the man Apollo looks up to? How would he react?
Wow, I never tthought of Apollo's father in that way? ò_ò an attorney, son of a infamous killer... strange, but creepy and cool idea! By the way, I prefer to think to Apollo's dad as a sad man that loses everything: my idea is that there was a terrible accident in which ??? was involved, and a prosecutor created a plan to hide him from a terrible criminal... maybe the brother of this prosecutor. And this prosecutor's brother is Kristoph's mentor. This killer, then, kills Apollo's father in the first case of GS5, but he will be discovered only in the last case... after killing his prosecuting brother (and why not, this prosecutor will be Apollo's main rival in GS5).
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Apollo's dad is dead. Maybe, von Karma orchestrated it with someone doing the deed.
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Apollo's dad is dead. Maybe, von Karma orchestrated it with someone doing the deed.

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Thalassa should be dead too. But oh my, she's alive! So, why can't her husband have had the same destiny, supposed to be dead but actually still alive?

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A mad scientist, maybe...? xD This is 2026 so some light sci-fi elements would be cool. Nothing too extreme, of course.

In fact, one of my OCs is inspired by Professor Hojo from FF7.
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A mad scientist, maybe...? xD This is 2026 so some light sci-fi elements would be cool. Nothing too extreme, of course.

In fact, one of my OCs is inspired by Professor Hojo from FF7.

Sci-fi in Ace Attorney.. I think it already exist (anyone said "Godot's visor"?), even if in the other hand we have all those mobiles and computers older than nowadays XD
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