Ethnic Identity vs Gender Identity
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I'm too lazy to go into the differences between Race and Ethnicity.
For me, none of it matters too much but I do try to portray myself as a male rather than a woman, not a manly man in a over-masculine manner like certain groups but not try to show myself as a 'modern man' who can cry, watch romance dramas and sympathizes (I believe most fake this who make a big deal of it anyway) with women/animals/'feminine concepts'.
But that is likely because I find gender to be moot in this day and age, unless you let social constructs bother you too much then you are whatever you are individually and outside of biological imperatives and differences, there is no gender.
Ethnicity, hmm, I never thought about that really. Perhaps it is because I am English in England, I'm assumed the same as the 'majority' unlike an immigrant or imperialistic controlled native population so trying to 'be' English does not factor into anything, then again I am also at a loss to what makes one English now days and that does not bother me, I'm serialVerish.
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Honestly, I could care less about ethnicity and gender. I go by personality and either I like you or I don't, simple as that.
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As for what people think, in America, I believe that gender issues are more talked about, but that we still define people more by ethnicity and race. A ton of it is subconscious. I've pretty much been conditioned all my life to believe that White is the "default" race, like vanilla is the "default" ice cream flavor. It starts with childhood: the White main character in a cartoon will have a Black or Asian best friend, and in advertisements for baby dolls they'll have the White baby doll in the front-center of the screen with the Black and Asian baby dolls in the background. Rather than making me feel superior, it made me feel that I was just the "default." I never thought that there was anything special about being White, and now that I'm older and know better, I realize how ignorant that way of thinking is. First of all, this mindset is patronizing towards people who are not White. Second of all, because of this mindset, I have no idea what my own ethnicity even is. I know that I'm White just by looking in the mirror, but I don't know if I'm Irish, Scottish, English, what have you. My ethnicity brings me no pride, though it has in the past given me a false sense of entitlement. None of this was intentional.
Gender is more tricky for me to talk about. I feel like I'm defined less by gender and more by sexuality, but to discuss this would force me to go into more personal matters.
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You see, Jung had this theory about how in every male, there is an inner female persona (the anima, an image greatly influenced by the mother, like a soul), and there's an inner male persona (the animus, an image influenced by the father, more like a conscience) in every female. If we throw away our gender identity to avoid surficial claims of "sexism" then we disturb the balance.
Long story short, I think gender identity is very important.
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Gender is relative, though personally I don't feel like it defines me much. I believe in more of a 'people are people' approach. The only time gender really affects me is when, in our day and age of proposed gender equality, you get people who seem to come out of no where with "I'm not sexist (they ALWAYS say this) but I believe *insert subtle sexist comment*. I mean, anyone else see the shit storm that hit when SE first announced that FF XIII would have a heroine instead of the typical effeminate pretty boy?
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Robin Goodfellow wrote:
I mean, anyone else see the shit storm that hit when SE first announced that FF XIII would have a heroine instead of the typical effeminate pretty boy?
It's tragic really. We haven't had a female protagonist since Terra.
On a more related note, I second this:
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Honestly, I could care less about ethnicity and gender. I go by personality and either I like you or I don't, simple as that.
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Also there is no difference in race just skin tone and bodily features.
Long story short : There is nothing noteworthy about race or gender unless your racist but I doubt anyone here is racist.
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And gender's...well...not really as big an issue as either of the above.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Nationalism should be more important than race.
I disagree. Nationalism shouldn't be important either. At all.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Nationalism should be more important than race.
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Do you mean that as in your country should be important to you or that some nationality's are better than others?
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antonis wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Nationalism should be more important than race.
.
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Do you mean that as in your country should be important to you or that some nationality's are better than others?
No, I mean identifying with a nation is more meaningful than identifying with race. I'd rather say what country I'm from than what race I am.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
antonis wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Nationalism should be more important than race.
.
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Do you mean that as in your country should be important to you or that some nationality's are better than others?
No, I mean identifying with a nation is more meaningful than identifying with race. I'd rather say what country I'm from than what race I am.
I'm glad and respectful that I'm a Canadian Citizen. I should have mentioned that in my first post.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
antonis wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Nationalism should be more important than race.
.
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Do you mean that as in your country should be important to you or that some nationality's are better than others?
No, I mean identifying with a nation is more meaningful than identifying with race. I'd rather say what country I'm from than what race I am.
Ah gotcha.
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White is a funny term, it is not always to do with skin color. Irish are white but were not all considered white because they did not fit into the original model of White Protestant. East Europeans are rarely considered white but they are often not of a different color of skin. But white is considered the default, like someone said about ice cream.
I like the discussion and points going on here though, very interesting.
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What's more important, however, is the concentration of wealth, references of which are often analogous to race and nationality, not intentionally, mind you, but just by the way things worked out in history. America's less identified with "white" than "heathens" and/or "those rich snobs who think they can send soldiers here to conduct our lives as they wish".
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Africans are not black.
Not true.
Parts of central Africa where theres tribalism the skin colour is coffee black.
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Where I live we have British, Kosovan, Polish, Chinese and a few others, and everyone gets along just fine.
I do think that some people let their own race/gender be an issue though.
As for me, I'm a British white female.
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I do try to portray myself as a male rather than a woman.
Even when you're wearing your pretty pink apron baking cakes? =P
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But that is likely because I find gender to be moot in this day and age.
Yep.
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Honestly, I could care less about ethnicity and gender. I go by personality and either I like you or I don't, simple as that.
Same here.
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i'm a chinese male, but ethnicity isn't a huge deal for me. usually, i don't "feel" chinese. i can speak the language fluently, communicate when i visit my parents' hometown, watch and understand chinese news, etc. but it's not a big part of my personality.
as for gender, i don't really feel defined by it at all. i've been taught in my childhood that men and women are completely equal, and it has stuck, for the most part.
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SD-Rim_6 wrote:
Marten Luther King said to judge people by the content of their character. I do just that.
The concept here is not the judgment of others but the judgment of self.
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to answer the question neither is important but both have contributed in making me the person i am today. experiences in life are what made me who I am and what have made all of you, you.
here's something good to learn, there's no such thing as normal for all is abnormal and if all being abnormal is normal then instead of being either of them we simply are.
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SerialVER wrote:
SD-Rim_6 wrote:
Marten Luther King said to judge people by the content of their character. I do just that.
The concept here is not the judgment of others but the judgment of self.
OH, well as myself I don't think I have identified myself by my ethnicity or gender but I think I judge myself on my choices in life. I judge myself on my successes and my failures and reflect on them in order to see what kind of person I am, have been, or will be. I don't think gender or ethnicity play as important of a role than other aspects of me.
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This doesn't really affect anything except my physical appearance. I don't really have much of an ethnic identity; I don't even have much of a national identity, a sexual identity (like, regarding my sexuality), or a religious identity, really. (Honestly, I'm kind of ashamed to be white, American, and Christian. And all the people who claim to be bisexual for attention make me somewhat ashamed of my bisexuality, too. But that's irrelevant.)
Gender-wise, that's a different story. I identify strongly as female, and could never imagine myself as a guy, even though I was something of a tomboy in my youth. Not much more to say about that, just that it definitely contributes to who I am as a person--I honestly can't see myself being the same person if I were a guy.
As for judging people, I really do try to judge people based on their personalities. I've met jerks of both genders and all races, and I've met great people from all those groups too.
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However, being openly white, the stereotypes associated with ethnic identity aren't too detrimental.
But I rarely pay attention to either.
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I am a white male and therefore superior in every way.
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People are people. Either someone's a good person or they aren't. The tract of land they happen to have been born on, or the traits they happen to have inherited, or the chromosome they happened to get don't mean one damn thing.
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Yaragorm wrote:
For me it's neither. I'm not manly enough to pride myself as a guy and I really don't like identifying myself as an Asian. Mainly because my Grades are too low.
I am just Yaragorm, and that's all I'll ever be.
I am just Yaragorm, and that's all I'll ever be.
Go beat up some street fool and feel better about yourself. Then, go join the Triads and gain some respect. Lastly, walk around the streets with a shaved head, sunglasses, a tuxedo, and a cleverly hidden but still conspicuous uzi. Haha! No one will mess with you now!
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Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
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justis76 wrote:
I'm a manly half-black guy. Like Barack Obama, but with better hair.
Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
Same here.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
justis76 wrote:
I'm a manly half-black guy. Like Barack Obama, but with better hair.
Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
Same here.
Yeah...you might have noticed, if you know me, that...I'm saying this in jest
I've known you since, what, August, and I can't even tell when you're joking.
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
I'm a manly half-black guy. Like Barack Obama, but with better hair.
Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
Race definitely matters more at my school out of the two, but sexuality trumps both of those.
Uh...OK...uh...
July.
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