Re: Did Franziska ever give Phoenix the card?
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GWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHPEARLISMISSINGMAYAISGONNADIEIGOTTASAVEIRISDOLLIE'SCOMEBACKFROMTHEGRAVETOKILLAND--WOW, Edgeworth is HOT.
Could be why.
Could be why.
<sigh> I meant at ANY point in ANY game. You'd think there would be at least one. There are plenty of non-high-drama moments where this would be feasible.
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Re: Did Franziska ever give Phoenix the card?
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BlackJack wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
GWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHPEARLISMISSINGMAYAISGONNADIEIGOTTASAVEIRISDOLLIE'SCOMEBACKFROMTHEGRAVETOKILLAND--WOW, Edgeworth is HOT.
Could be why.
Could be why.
<sigh> I meant at ANY point in ANY game. You'd think there would be at least one. There are plenty of non-high-drama moments where this would be feasible.
The only time there are any comments at all like that are in T&T... and there's really no time for that with Edgey in T&T. There are no homosexual comments in AA or JFA, but there are no heterosexual comments in them either. (Unless they are really obscure >_> I at least don't remember any heterosexual comments in them, and I only remember 1 in T&T)
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Bad Player wrote:
BlackJack wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
GWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHPEARLISMISSINGMAYAISGONNADIEIGOTTASAVEIRISDOLLIE'SCOMEBACKFROMTHEGRAVETOKILLAND--WOW, Edgeworth is HOT.
Could be why.
Could be why.
<sigh> I meant at ANY point in ANY game. You'd think there would be at least one. There are plenty of non-high-drama moments where this would be feasible.
The only time there are any comments at all like that are in T&T... and there's really no time for that with Edgey in T&T. There are no homosexual comments in AA or JFA, but there are no heterosexual comments in them either. (Unless they are really obscure >_> I at least don't remember any heterosexual comments in them, and I only remember 1 in T&T)
Yes, but if Phoenix has homosexual tendencies at all, Edgeworth wouldn't have been the only guy Phoenix might have commented on. Unless you're suggesting that Edgeworth is the only man Phoenix could be interested in?
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Re: Did Franziska ever give Phoenix the card?
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Yes, but if Phoenix has homosexual tendencies at all, Edgeworth wouldn't have been the only guy Phoenix might have commented on. Unless you're suggesting that Edgeworth is the only man Phoenix could be interested in?
Well, how many women has Nick commented on?
He dated Dollie, apparently called Maya's outfit cute, and thought Franzy was cute while he was delirious. And the thing with Maya and Franzy were just one-liners. It's not like he goes commenting on everyone he sees...
(And also, just remember in T&T, the only other men we had were Ron, Luke, Victor, Tigre, and Armstrong... Not exactly the most ideal candidates... (Ignoring Godot, since he kinda insulted and hated Nick so much))
If you want to determine someone's sexuality just from a few of the comments they make in-game, I'm going to have to say Godot is homosexual then, because he flirted with Armstrong a bit. Mia was just his co-worker, and calling her "Kitten" doesn't mean anything because he called Dollie that, too--it's just his style.
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Bad Player wrote:
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Yes, but if Phoenix has homosexual tendencies at all, Edgeworth wouldn't have been the only guy Phoenix might have commented on. Unless you're suggesting that Edgeworth is the only man Phoenix could be interested in?
Well, how many women has Nick commented on?
He dated Dollie, apparently called Maya's outfit cute, and thought Franzy was cute while he was delirious. And the thing with Maya and Franzy were just one-liners. It's not like he goes commenting on everyone he sees...
(And also, just remember in T&T, the only other men we had were Ron, Luke, Tigre, and Armstrong... Not exactly the most ideal candidates... (Ignoring Godot, since he kinda insulted and hated Nick so much))
Well, he obviously liked Iris, and he got all nervous around Desi. While he never came out and said, DAMN SHE'S HOT! It was pretty obvious.
He also made hetero comments on Thalassa in AJ.
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Dun really know about Dessie.
And if I remember 4-4 correctly, he just called her beautiful... I don't think he really meant it in a sexual way. I think of it as the same as calling a man handsome.
Anyway, the only time Phoenix exhibited any sexual tendencies at all ever were in T&T. So I don't think the fact that he didn't make any comments like that in AA or JFA means anything. I don't think he's fall for Ron (married... and a wimp), Luke (weird), Tigre, Armstrong, or Victor (do I really need to explain?). The only person who it would really be would be Edgey, but as you already admitted, they didn't really have much on-screen time for that.
So I don't think "he made a few heterosexual comments but no homosexual comments" is enough to definitely say he's not bi.
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Bad Player wrote:
Well, Iris was Dollie, so >_>
Dun really know about Dessie.
And if I remember 4-4 correctly, he just called her beautiful... I don't think he really meant it in a sexual way. I think of it as the same as calling a man handsome.
Anyway, the only time Phoenix exhibited any sexual tendencies at all ever were in T&T. So I don't think the fact that he didn't make any comments like that in AA or JFA means anything. I don't think he's fall for Ron (married... and a wimp), Luke (weird), Tigre, Armstrong, or Victor (do I really need to explain?). The only person who it would really be would be Edgey, but as you already admitted, they didn't really have much on-screen time for that.
So I don't think "he made a few heterosexual comments but no homosexual comments" is enough to definitely say he's not bi.
Dun really know about Dessie.
And if I remember 4-4 correctly, he just called her beautiful... I don't think he really meant it in a sexual way. I think of it as the same as calling a man handsome.
Anyway, the only time Phoenix exhibited any sexual tendencies at all ever were in T&T. So I don't think the fact that he didn't make any comments like that in AA or JFA means anything. I don't think he's fall for Ron (married... and a wimp), Luke (weird), Tigre, Armstrong, or Victor (do I really need to explain?). The only person who it would really be would be Edgey, but as you already admitted, they didn't really have much on-screen time for that.
So I don't think "he made a few heterosexual comments but no homosexual comments" is enough to definitely say he's not bi.
Even though Iris was Dollie, he still loved both of them at some point.
But maybe there isn't enough proof to say without a doubt that he's not (which I said from the beginning) bi, but he hasn't shown any homo tendencies while he has shown hetero tendencies, so I said that I find it unlikely. Not definitely not, just unlikely.
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(Although I only find it a little unlikely, considering he only showed hetero tendencies a few times, and it was all in one game--it's not like it was a long-running trend)
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it's not like it was a long-running trend
I believe you've forgotten about Phoenix's comment about Regina Berry.
And the fact that he almost hooked up with Mia in the first game. Before her murder.
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Just like Phoenix steals Maya's Magatama. She very clearly states that she wants it back in JFA yet in the court record it turns from "Maya's Magatama" to just "Magatama". Then in AJ
Phoenix says that he has his magatama like Apollo has his braclet.
Maybe she just stole it and forgot about it....
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Essa_L_M.E wrote:
Just like Phoenix steals Maya's Magatama. She very clearly states that she wants it back in JFA yet in the court record it turns from "Maya's Magatama" to just "Magatama". Then in AJ
Phoenix says that he has his magatama like Apollo has his braclet.
Phoenix says that he has his magatama like Apollo has his braclet.
I think it's pretty obvious that Maya just let him keep it. Maybe as a parting gift when she left to go live in Kurain again.
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BlackJack wrote:
Essa_L_M.E wrote:
Just like Phoenix steals Maya's Magatama. She very clearly states that she wants it back in JFA yet in the court record it turns from "Maya's Magatama" to just "Magatama". Then in AJ
Phoenix says that he has his magatama like Apollo has his braclet.
Phoenix says that he has his magatama like Apollo has his braclet.
I think it's pretty obvious that Maya just let him keep it. Maybe as a parting gift when she left to go live in Kurain again.
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In 3-5, she may have left the card behind (if she even still had it) if she didn't realize Phoenix was involved with the case.
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Anyway, the only time Phoenix exhibited any sexual tendencies at all ever were in T&T.
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In 3-5, she may have left the card behind (if she even still had it) if she didn't realize Phoenix was involved with the case.
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It's in the Phoenix/Maya fan club somewhere - page 85/86 or so. It's an interesting read regardless of shipping.
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Sebastian Stark wrote:
To further add....Franziska's card is now in the hands of her best friend.
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ALL YOU SAY IS THAT PHOENIX AND EDGEWORTH ARE GAY FOR EACH OTHER!
THIS IS ALL THEORY!
THERE ARE VERY FEW CHARACTERS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE HOMOSEXUAL, AND YOU BASTARDS WILL NOT RECOGNIZE THIS FACT!
UNLESS YOU HAVE SOLID PROOF THAT ANYONE IN THE ACE ATTORNEY SERIES IS GAY, EVERY SINGLE COMMENT OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS IS GARBAGE!
MEANWHILE, THERE IS FAR TOO MUCH PROOF THAT HE IS STRAIGHT! HE HAS ATTEMPTED TO PROTECT MAYA, EMA, IRIS, AND MANY MORE PEOPLE FROM DANGER ON TOO MANY OCCASIONS! EDGEWORTH IS NO MORE THAN A RIVAL, AND YOU FANBOYS HAVE MADE IT YOUR GOAL TO PAIR RIVALS IN EVERY SINGLE GAME IN HISTORY!
NOW, UNLESS YOU CAN COMMIT A HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF CAPCOM AND SQUEEZE THE TRUTH OUT OF THEM, YOU FOOLS ARE GARBAGE TO ME!
I REST MY CASE!!!
WHY IS THERE NOT A GAVIN SCREAM EMOTICON WHEN YOU NEED ONE!!!
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you...accursed...fools...
ALL YOU SAY IS THAT PHOENIX AND EDGEWORTH ARE GAY FOR EACH OTHER!
THIS IS ALL THEORY!
THERE ARE VERY FEW CHARACTERS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE HOMOSEXUAL, AND YOU BASTARDS WILL NOT RECOGNIZE THIS FACT!
UNLESS YOU HAVE SOLID PROOF THAT ANYONE IN THE ACE ATTORNEY SERIES IS GAY, EVERY SINGLE COMMENT OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS IS GARBAGE!
MEANWHILE, THERE IS FAR TOO MUCH PROOF THAT HE IS STRAIGHT! HE HAS ATTEMPTED TO PROTECT MAYA, EMA, IRIS, AND MANY MORE PEOPLE FROM DANGER ON TOO MANY OCCASIONS! EDGEWORTH IS NO MORE THAN A RIVAL, AND YOU FANBOYS HAVE MADE IT YOUR GOAL TO PAIR RIVALS IN EVERY SINGLE GAME IN HISTORY!
NOW, UNLESS YOU CAN COMMIT A HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF CAPCOM AND SQUEEZE THE TRUTH OUT OF THEM, YOU FOOLS ARE GARBAGE TO ME!
I REST MY CASE!!!
WHY IS THERE NOT A GAVIN SCREAM EMOTICON WHEN YOU NEED ONE!!!
that card is the almighty proof to shut you accursed fools up, and when it is shown, I will rule the world at last!
WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
ALL YOU SAY IS THAT PHOENIX AND EDGEWORTH ARE GAY FOR EACH OTHER!
THIS IS ALL THEORY!
THERE ARE VERY FEW CHARACTERS IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE HOMOSEXUAL, AND YOU BASTARDS WILL NOT RECOGNIZE THIS FACT!
UNLESS YOU HAVE SOLID PROOF THAT ANYONE IN THE ACE ATTORNEY SERIES IS GAY, EVERY SINGLE COMMENT OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS IS GARBAGE!
MEANWHILE, THERE IS FAR TOO MUCH PROOF THAT HE IS STRAIGHT! HE HAS ATTEMPTED TO PROTECT MAYA, EMA, IRIS, AND MANY MORE PEOPLE FROM DANGER ON TOO MANY OCCASIONS! EDGEWORTH IS NO MORE THAN A RIVAL, AND YOU FANBOYS HAVE MADE IT YOUR GOAL TO PAIR RIVALS IN EVERY SINGLE GAME IN HISTORY!
NOW, UNLESS YOU CAN COMMIT A HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF CAPCOM AND SQUEEZE THE TRUTH OUT OF THEM, YOU FOOLS ARE GARBAGE TO ME!
I REST MY CASE!!!
WHY IS THERE NOT A GAVIN SCREAM EMOTICON WHEN YOU NEED ONE!!!
that card is the almighty proof to shut you accursed fools up, and when it is shown, I will rule the world at last!
WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
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Spoiler: GS3-5
Ergo, this may be some sort of foreshadowing for GS5.
As for the Shelly card in GS4, I don't think it's the same one. I don't recall it having Nick's face doodled on it.
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