This is the official AAI Countdown thread for case 3-2, The Stolen Turnabout. Use this thread to chat about the case and its characters, any pairings you drew from it, tell us when the last time you played it was and if your feelings about it have changed, etc.

This is just for fun so if you're not following the countdown exactly or at all you're still very welcome to post.

Sorry the thread is late

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knowing me by the time I finish typing this I won't be the first responder. But I have to say. I. Love. This. Case.

Well, since I haven't payd it in awhile, I admit my memory's a little hazy. Guess I'll do the usual and post more when I finish replaying it.

Also. I love Luke ;A;

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2-3 is the only case in all of AA history that I've only played through two times it total. ;;

Thus, I don't have as much to say about it as I do the other cases...

In any case, it was an ok case. I'm not a huge fan of Godot, so he didn't really do anything for me, but Ron was cute and he has one kickass wife. Yes.

I laughed when Larry came back. When something smells, it's usually the Butz!

It was nice to see a case open with something other than murder, and I hope I wasn't the only one who facepalmed when Godot came along to inform you that Kane Bullard was dead. WHAT NO I JUST GOT RON FOUND INNOCENT--

I also laughed when Pearls got all hussy at Phoenix when he was talking to Dessie. Good times, good times.

But, all in all, I was looking forward to 3-4 and 3-5 too much to really enjoy 3-2 (and 3-3) as much as I should have. I'm too much of a sucker for flashbacks and character backstories

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PLLEEEEEEAAASSEE LISTEN TO MEEEEEEE! I love that so much, Ron is awesome in my eyes! A bit of a dope though.
I really liked some of the themes in this case, Luke Atmey and Ron's especially. This is definately one of my favourite cases!

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First of all, I have to say that this case is the best one I've played so far. Not only is the murder plot ingenious, but we get to take a case that isn't murder (at least, initially).

Anyway, what I love about the case apart from what I said above is the dialogue: All of Luke's and Ron's dialogue is marvelous, and both the Judge and Godot get a couple of good lines as well.

In terms of the music, again it is marvelous: I love Luke's/Mask DeMasque's theme, as they both suit their respective characters well. Admittedly though, I have to say that I think that Larry's theme is a bit of a disappointment in comparison/slightly annoying.

As far as the characters go, I have to say that Luke stands out the most for me: Not only is he an eccentric genius, he's also seems to be slightly mad (which I think is a good thing). Ron is, admittedly, slightly annoying at times, but he's bearable. Also, I was glad to see Adrian Andrews return, although I prefer her stronger 2-4 persona to her more klutzy performance in this case.

So overall, I'd say that it's a very good case, with good characters and well written dialogue.

Ah, yes. This case kind of dragged for me, but it was very intelligently put together and actually quite challenging. And of course every line from Luke Atmey is gold. XD

Edit: Bonus in that this is the only case where Phoenix has his own profile. Presenting it to everybody is way fun. (and this is actually the only way Phoenix's spiky hair is confirmed natural in game canon)

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This is my favorite 'filler' case. It's clever, it's ridiculous, and even if the murder plot makes no real sense, it has that semblance of sense that fits the Ace Attorney universe like a glove. Plus, Desiree deLite, daredevil and obvious deMasque candidate, was the best red herring in the entire series.

Me: "Ah, I see where this is going. Ron's covering for his wife - the real Masque deMasque! That's why the symbol's all over their house!"

Game: "HA HA, FOOLED YOU, THIS DORK REALLY IS MASQUE DEMASQUE!"

Me: "D'oh!"

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I really liked this case :3 It was nice having Larry and Adrian back, and it was a good intro for Godot. I knew it wasn't Larry or Adrian, and for some reason I really didn't think it was Desiree, which made it kinda obvious it was Luke, but oh well...

The only thing that really annoyed me was that I overthought everything twice and had to look the answer up ^^' The first was when you had to present Mask deMasque's card about the bespeckled urn... that was actually me not realizing that you could "Check" the calling card. The other was the "Shiny red gem" thing in the blackmail letter... since I knew/thought it was Luke, I never thought/realized that everyone else thought it was that tear jewel thingy... heck, I never realized that the thing in the piecture was the tear jewel thingy.

Anyway, I still liked the case and the characters and the other contradictions. I thought the whole thing where you proved he was guilty of murder on the first day and then proved he wasn't on the second was clever. I felt a little bad for Luke, since he committed both crimes, tried to pin both on Ron, and failed to pin either... but then again, he was a criminal, so then I forget it xD

The thing I probably liked best about this case was the music, though :P All the character and location themes were great. (I still like AA court themes better, but... meh :P)

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Honestly? This is one of my least-favorite filler cases. It was good, though, and Adrian makes me a happy Acey. The characters were all great, it's just...the plot didn't really capture me. :/

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Ahh, case 3-2...yeah.

I really didn't like it much at all, but what can I say? None of the characters in this case are very appealing (not even Phoenix and the other recurring characters!) and the new ones (particularly Godot and Luke) don't do anything for me.

Worse than that, though, is the simple fact that the case isn't very gripping. It starts off slow with the Kurain exhibit (who cares, really?). Next day, "OH NOES, IT'S BEEN STOLEN!" Again, so what? This uninteresting scenario drags on for a good 50% of the case, until we're finally dealing with a murder again. Even then, though, it's still boring! The best thing about the case was what FerdieLance already mentioned, the "surprise" twist of Ron actually being Mask*DeMasque.

Now I'm not trying to say murder's always gotta be going on for a case to be interesting. Case 4-2 showed me that's not necessarily so. I'm just saying that I didn't think anything about case 3-2 was very intriguing.

Overall, it ties with case 3-3 as my least favorite in the series.

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Yay 3-2! I'm not sure if this or 3-3 are my favorite in this game.

The best part about it is the rational for why everything seems a bit off about the whole murder and Atmey's plan. Everything about it could've been handled so much better... by a murderer who actually wanted to get away scot-free with everything.

Atmey wanted to craft a situation which he could come out of in several ways. He could end up maintaining his Ace Detective persona and ultimately defeat Mask DeMasque. Or he could be discovered to truly be Mask DeMasque and an Ace Detective. Even though this would result in him being arrested and going to jail, it would serve his purpose. Why? Because being a famous thief is glamorous and spectacular! Atmey would have been famous. Sure he'd go to prison for a while, but he'd have a sensational trial and have fans and be a sort of celebrity. Everything about Luke Atmey's plans were designed to ensure that one way or another, he was the center of attention. (After all, this is what his name implies XD).

But being a blackmailer is not glamorous. So he had to kill Bullard to keep that from coming to light. But being a murderer is even LESS glamorous, so he wanted to be sure not to get caught with that.

I really find this aspect of the case so interesting because it's so crazy and convoluted and only makes any sort of sense when you look at it from a perspective of a guy who's a little bit mad.

The fakeout with the victory in the first half of the case was fun too, because the game sort of tries to trick you into thinking it's already over. Of course there was plenty of reason to suspect more was coming, so I don't remember if I actually fell for it the first time I played or not.

Also I confess, I like what they do with Godot in this game. All the buildup and the mystery surrounding him really had me interested the whole time I played. There are parts about what they do with him I don't like, but that's saved for 3-5.

Ah yes, mr. look at me ...(come on people.... Luke Atmey, look at me...)

Well, he was the funniest criminal in the series, if you ask me. Also, heis break down is simply the best ever... ZVARRI!

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Man, I think the first Investigation Phase of this case alone was longer than 3-1.

Anyway, Luke and Ron are both great, Dessie's pretty good too but kind of gets overshadowed by Luke and Ron (I did think she was the killer at first, though...)

I forgot how hilarious it was cross-examining Ron.

Ron: So yeah, if I hadn't been wearing my Mask*deMasque costume, I would've been killed!
Everyone: Wait, wait, what? You wore your costume?
Ron: Oh, did I forget to mention that? Well I did. Anyway, it kept getting in the way while I was stuffing Kane's body into the safe, so-
Judge: Whoa, hold up, what was that last part?

The only part I didn't really like was how vague some of the contradictions were (the blackmail letter/jewel one comes to mind...). Oh, and Godot. I never liked him anyway, but this case reminded me just how childish he is. Between throwing coffee cups at Phoenix when he gets ticked, the constantly mocking Nick's name (at least when White did it, it was more of an "I'm too important to remember who you are" attitude than an "I know damn well who you are but I'm going to pick on your name anyway" one. Besides, 'Mr. Wrong' is a lot better than 'Trite.'), and his argument over the buzzer devolving to "Yuh-huh, he did so hit the buzzer!"? And people say Franziska acts like a brat. Seriously, grow up, dude.

Almost forgot, the story about how Ron and Dessie hooked up was pretty much completely irrelevant to the plot but it was full of aww anyway.

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Fav case. Nuff' said.

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Well said.

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Finished a day early again! Because it's just so awesome! It's the only case where you investigate with both Maya and Pearl together!

I'll start with my assumptions about this case. First I assumed that the gold statue of Ami Fey was what Mask *DeMasque would end up stealing after I saw the intro. Secondly, I also assumed that Dessie was the thief, and later I thought she was the murderer. Then when I saw the publicity photo of Mask *DeMasque, I thought that the weird lighting in that color photo was the same pink paint as on the urn. I first blundered through the entire second half of the case with that assumption in mind.

Ron Delite is probably my second favorite character in the entire series. He's timid, loud, annoying, easy to ignore, and he likes mysterious masked men! All qualities I share with him. He's actually much more clever than you'd think, seeing as he knew that he could use the stolen Urn as his alibi for murdering Kane. His theme is awesome and the way he tries to get people's attention is strangely cute. He's also extremely lucky. He got away from both crimes he was suspected of (even though he was guilty of being Mask *DeMasque) plus he's also got a sexy spouse who actually loves him (even though she's really expensive). Basically he's like me if I had a wife like Desiree and some money.

Luke Atmey is yet another character I relate to. He's an attention seeker with a long nose and wears a magnifying lens while shouting "ZVARRI!" (okay, I only do half of that stuff, but still...). Playing this case again was a little hard though, because now I made the connection between his breakdown and...some things... Basically he's like me if I somehow obtained a job as a detective and was presented the same oppurtunites...

Larry in this case was a nice touch. I always knew that he would be the perfect candidate for Psyche-Lock times and was disappointed by his absense in Justice For All. It was also nice to know that he "matured" near the end of this case. Presenting profiles to him was also fun.

Adrian was yet another welcome return/cameo thing. Spazzy and joyful at times plus a black sleeveless shirt is a great combination in my book! Though it pretty hard for me to figure out that she was the reason the urn looked all new...

I can't relate to Desiree but I still think she's cool. Maybe I did feel very annoyed when I kept trying to present her as an accomplice to Luke Atmey's theft of the urn, but for some reason I could never hold it against her for misleading me into believing she actually had some evil part to play in this tale...

Godot did seem like the kind of masked enigma I normally swoon for with added caffeine, but now that I think of it he really is as childish and immature about things as people say he is. But this is probably because he's really a defense attorney and he was just acting like he thinks the prosecution would. :P He's still cool in my mind.

When it sunk in that this trial was NOT a murder, and that this was a case with investigating with only one day in court, I jumped and giggled with delitedelight that there was finally going to be a bit of variety. Though I did pout and shout and whine once this turned out to be just another murder case, I still ended up liking this case a lot. I think my only major problem was that some of the testimonies were hard to crack.

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This case was a personal favorite of mine!

I loved how this one started out with Phoenix clearing Ron's name of the heist... only to find out moments later that a murder took place at the same time. I knew something was up when the trial ended so early, but the little twist was still nice.

I love Ron to itty bitty bits. He's such an adorable character with his overreactions, fierce loyalty to his wife, and his sentences which trail off into nothing. I enjoyed how he came off as being a complete wuss at first, but later on in the case we learned that he does have his moments (especially in how he helped Dessie, even if he was bawling his eyes out the whole time). Adrian making a reappearance also made me very happy! I love how her character developed between GS2 and GS3: she was finally able to shed the "cold and stoic" facade that she had taken up following Celeste's death so she could just be herself again. I was happy for her. (And I felt so terrible for her when she had the Epic Urn Fail. XD)

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The storyline in this thing is alright, nothing special for me, but I absolutely love the characters.

Godot and Luke Atmey- OMG, I love these two. <3<3<3<3 They've both got great music, interesting personalities, and they're both gorgeous. <3 Yes, even Luke.

Uh, anyway, it was also interesting to see the Judge's Brother in this case, I nearly had a heart attack when I first saw him. XD

And it was great to see Larry again, I just wanted to give him a big hug for some reason.

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Finished yesterday but couldn't be bothered posting a review so here it is.

3-2 is one of my favourite cases of all times for several reasons. It's probably one of the few decent cases with a great plot that is full of twists, awesome music, character development and more!

I loved the introduction. As a fan of Lupin III, when I was watching the introduction, I couldn't help but think of all the similarities to that anime/manga series. Its possible that the creators of 3-2 were Lupin III fans and decided to incorporate some elements from it. Anyway, to put it simply, it was really good. Its on my top 5 introduction list, coming in at 3.

The plot was fabulous. I loved how you had to defend Ron from not murder but theft originally. It was really different to all the cases I had played in the AA series so far but when you discovered you had to defend him again, I was excited as I really liked this case and was disappointed slightly when it finished too quickly.

Ron and Dessie are two of my favourite AA characters. Ron is such a pathetic wimp but in the good way. He's loyal to his wife and seeks the best for her, even if it meant committing crime. Dessie on the other hand was really good as she made up for the lack of Lotta in the game. I wish that she appears in GS5 as well as Ron...

Luke Atmey. He was just awesome. I loved how he always said 'Zvarri' and referred to himself as an Ace Detective. The creators finally gave a reason as to why Phoenix was an 'Ace Attorney' when Phoenix himself started referring to himself as one. I really liked his breakdown emotion. He also had really good music which made him even better in my opinion.

Godot, the mysterious prosecutor. He finally made an appearance in the game and it was just awesome. I loved it in court when he was cool and calm against most of Phoenix's rebuttals. I also loved his music which really suited him.

As I keep saying, this is definitely one of my favourite cases of all times. When I have time, I'll have to play it again as I'm a bit disappointed this was only my second time replaying it...

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Ron is still one of my favorite defendants. Even if I never liked his localized name. Where did "Ron" come from anyway? It makes him seem so much older!

I would like to see Ron in the future, preferably with a kid. He and Dessie would have the cutest babies <3

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Those would be the most adorable kids ever, especially if they took after their parents. I can see them occasionally picking on their father. "Don't pick on meeeeee!" "You always say that, dad..."

That, and Dessie would want to take the kids out to do something risky and Ron would flip out. XD They'd be the best family ever!

(Random, but I have a professor whose first name is Ron and who tends to speak in sentences that trail off into nothing. Dundundun!)

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Really interesting case, this one. This one really stood out from the rest of the series imo because it wasn't a murder case for one... That is, at first.

There were a lot of interesting things here, such as the characters (Ron is one of my favorite defendants ever) and the plot (Even though it was so obvious that Luke was the culprit the whole time... At least to me). It was very clever. Great intro for Godot too, he's great.

Final verdict: I liked this case a lot, I thought it was really interesting how it went from larceny to murder, just like 'that'. The characters were all good, the plot was good... It was just... Good! XD So, my grade for this case is: B.

A question: When did Atmey actually steal the urn? He posed with the urn before the calling card was even sent, so he couldn't have stolen it then. The urn was discovered missing the day after the murder, meaning that Atmey stole it the night of the murder, so why wasn't there a photo? Or did Atmey just delete it? I thought the camera was Lordly Tailor's...

This case makes my head spin.

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I don't remember when Adrian said she locked the urn away, but Atmey stole it sometime between then and the time he sent the calling card. Then he went back to Lordly Tailor the night of Bullard's murder after he'd taken care of business so he could set up the 'crime scene'. The urn wasn't discovered missing until then because Adrian put it into storage where nobody would see it, and everyone assumed Atmey would tell them if it disappeared (he was supposed to be guarding it.)

As Phoenix mentioned in the trial, the camera was Lordly Tailor's, but the security program itself was Atmey's. He probably just turned the computer off while he moved things around.

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Awesome case, not only because it started out not as a murder, but also because the defendant was actually guilty of the first crime.
Also the constant battle between Luke and Ron for who's the thief and who's the killer was something never done before in AA.

Also the characters were all so unique. Especially Mr. "Look at Me".
8.5/10

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Oh yes, because it mentioned a "speckled urn", didn't it...? Forgot about that part. You'd think they would check the urn after they received the calling card... but everyone in AA is stupid anyway.

I also just realized that KB Security has security cameras, so if the guard was someone less idiotic than Larry the entire case would be that much easier. Alas...

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Kane's pretty much an idiot anyway. Never mind the fact that he had all sorts of enemies from generally being a prick to everyone (according to Ron) and he decided to trust his life to someone like Larry, but the fact that Ron was able to open Kane's safe and stuff his body into it in ten minutes shows how swift the guy was.

You'd think that if you were the head of a SECURITY COMPANY and you'd fired your chief guard for selling company secrets, the first thing you'd do is, uh, GET A NEW SAFE. Or at the very least change the combination.

But then again, stupidity is the leading cause of death in the Ace Attorney Universe. See: pretty much every victim in T&T except possibly Elg.

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Well, since I haven't added my thoughts on this case yet...

Great case (twin case?) here. I enjoyed the fact that it started out as something other than a murder, and then the twist where it ended up really being tied to a murder!

Loved Ron and Desiree, even with that one huge secret between then. Er, well, that's not exactly right, more like several secrets that had more or less come from the first

Luke Atmey wasn't a favorite, though he was entertaining for a while. I liked how he and Ron had the same idea in mind and were pretty much competing for the same alibi.

And Adrian in black!! Though she was without InfiniteGlasses!Code, it was great to see how she had turned out.

It was nice to see Larry too, the poor eternal screw-up.

Godot was a dick, naturally, but I had no idea who he was until a later case. His reaction to Mia's channeling in the courtroom was priceless, but again, I wouldn't understand the significance until said later case. Oh, and the coffee grenades were pretty funny.

I wonder if Maya is ever disturbed by the fact that she whacked Nick in the head with the same sword that

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