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Re: Apollo Justice Case 5: Part 3 RELEASED! (+4h30 gameplay)Topic%20Title

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Spoiler: demo 3
The judge you defend in the first trial, and the juge who gets killed in the second trial, have to be one and the same - there is a reason the case is called Turnabout "Substitution". And Udgey has to be the defendant in the first trial, not only because it is the story's central hook, but also because it is necessary for the plot to even take place ; it's the foundation to the whole building. I could develop on these points further, and give you dozens of other reasons why it has to be him, but you're right in that I don't want to spoil everything :D

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Spoiler: Thoughts on "Turnabout Substitution"
Judge Chambers is changed with Paul Strings as defendant.

A King

in name


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IM STUCK! I cant seem to get past the first investigation phase at the chief justice's room. Any tips? PLEASE...i need them :D. There seems to be nothing to examine.

LOVE THE GAME, btw. :D
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Spoiler:
Did you examine the bust (left side, IIRC) and the plate (right side)?

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The bust, yes.
The plate...what plate? OH THAT PLATE. I clicked it, but it says "No clues here."
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Ahhh. I got it. Thanks a lot! :phoenix:

I played your cases by the way. Silence of the Turnabout...really really nice! I enjoyed it. :payne: Very hard though. TOOK A LOT OF TRIES, believe me.
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Good to know you're no longer stuck ;) Let's hope nothing gets in the way of your finishing the game from now on.

And yes, BP only makes games in order to express his sadistic tendencies =)
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dasupernerd25 wrote:
I played your cases by the way. Silence of the Turnabout...really really nice! I enjoyed it. :payne: Very hard though. TOOK A LOT OF TRIES, believe me.

Thank you :3 I know my game is hard, but I hope it makes it that much more rewarding when you finally beat it

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And yes, BP only makes games in order to express his sadistic tendencies =)

Well, it's a lot more legal than what I did before...
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It seems like I'm stuck again...all i do is ask for hints! =)) Its quite embarrassing. But what the heck...ill ask for hints!

Im stuck again at Rhea's office (first investigation phase). I already examined the photo and computer. I think you are supposed to "check" the computer, but it doesn't work... whenever i attempt to press the "Check" button...it examines it instead and the dialogue of.."So Rhea, what do you do on your computer?" comes up. Do you really check it?

Or am i missing something ELSE instead.
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Nope, it's not the computer.
It's not even "examine" ;)
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Ping' wrote:
Nope, it's not the computer.
It's not even "examine" ;)


OH GOD. then what? Its not present either. I presented ALL evidence and ALL profiles. No reaction. And as you said, its not examine...then what? Im stuck, yet again. :udgy:
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You've already examined the photo, right?
Well then, if it's not "examine" nor "present"... there are still two options left. And if you're logical and want to waste as little time as possible, you'll want to try one in particular first.
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:)) OK.
I examined the photo already. I also did "Talk". All topics have been discussed (Rhea Wits, Funeral Director, and Nathan Wits). I also tried moving to every place possible.
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dasupernerd25 wrote:
:)) OK.
I examined the photo already. I also did "Talk". All topics have been discussed (Rhea Wits, Funeral Director, and Nathan Wits). I also tried moving to every place possible.


Have you tried presenting something? You never mentioned it.
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Yeah, he did.

If you've already talked about all topics, what you need to do, dasupernerd25, is move to the Wright Anything Agency, then somewhere else.
If you're really stuck,
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it's the Chief Justice's office. Normally Strings should be here. Courage, this is the last scene of the first day of investigation ; then you're off to court.

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Ping' wrote:
Yeah, he did.


Ah...I should have checked the post before his last one. ;p

By the way, is there any general news you can tell us all about the trailer?
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immolove seems to have disappeared for good. I'm waiting for the 2/3 remaining artworks from MapleRose ; when I have them, I'll try to recruit someone else. Also, it'll be more of an "ad" than a trailer, since it'll be revealed quite close to the release date.
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Oh thanks!
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YAHOO! Im done with the first trial, got Chambers declared not guilty! Time for the second investigation phase. OH NOEZ...i hate investigation :| Im better at trial mode :)) Except when it comes to BadPlayer's Trials. SO HARD. :| HE DOES use it to express his sadistic tendencies :)) JK. :grossburg:
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No problem ;) I'll be there to help you in case you're having trouble.

Would you mind putting your last post inside spoiler tags, though?
The people who haven't played the game yet probably don't want to know what happens at the end of the first trial.
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Sorry.

And um...i dont know, but i think its a bug.
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After talking to Chief Justice Strings, it gets stuck at the topics "Why Did You Do It?" "Justice?" "Erlenmeyer, Innocent?". It cannot go back. Is there anything wrong?
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You didn't do your spoiler tag correctly =\

Anyway, this was something messed up with the programming that a bunch of people have gotten. If you look through this thread (near the end) you should find how to fix it.
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Spoiler:
Yeah, you need to put "set _show_back_button true" between "bg aj/detentioncenter" and "list scene56Stringstalk" in scene56Strings.talk (Turnabout Substitution folder).


But wait, when did you download this?
Normally, this problem should no longer exist. The newest version's code for this scene is the same as the one in the PyWright updater, which has always worked...
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I've played your game demo.. so far so good.. but.. one bug that I meet is, on the first trial (actually, on the second demo), i found that the namebox named "nothing".. I hope this comment help, :godot:
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Don't worry, this problem is going to be utterly annihilated for everyone by the final version. Thanks for reminding us ;)

Speaking of which, and since we're all in "progress report" mood...

Let's not forget that Turnabout Substitution, the full game, is to be released this month.

Considering the progress we're making with sprites, the closest release date I could give you would be June 28th - only two weeks from now.

I'm about 100% confident the game will be finished at that point, and in fact, probably sooner than that... the question mark being on how long beta testing and debugging is going to take (hopefully a week). We'll want to make sure there are no serious issues left at all before we release the game, so this'll be our top priority.
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Ping' wrote:
Don't worry, this problem is going to be utterly annihilated for everyone by the final version. Thanks for reminding us ;)

Speaking of which, and since we're all in "progress report" mood...

Let's not forget that Turnabout Substitution, the full game, is to be released this month.

Considering the progress we're making with sprites, the closest release date I could give you would be June 28th - only two weeks from now.

I'm about 100% confident the game will be finished at that point, and in fact, probably sooner than that... the question mark being on how long beta testing and debugging is going to take (hopefully a week). We'll want to make sure there are no serious issues left at all before we release the game, so this'll be our top priority.


Rats, looks like you'll beat me to releasing a conclusion! :gant:
Best of luck on the final release and I'm looking forward to playing it!
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Thanks a lot ;)

I'm really looking forward to playing yours as well, especially since I haven't been spoiled at all. So many mysteries to uncover...
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Ping' wrote:
Thanks a lot ;)

I'm really looking forward to playing yours as well, especially since I haven't been spoiled at all. So many mysteries to uncover...

Mine's not that far off now. Another month or two at the most. :garyuu:
And you're welcome, I need to know just what happens!
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Ping' wrote:
Don't worry, this problem is going to be utterly annihilated for everyone by the final version. Thanks for reminding us ;)

Speaking of which, and since we're all in "progress report" mood...

Let's not forget that Turnabout Substitution, the full game, is to be released this month.

Considering the progress we're making with sprites, the closest release date I could give you would be June 28th - only two weeks from now.

I'm about 100% confident the game will be finished at that point, and in fact, probably sooner than that... the question mark being on how long beta testing and debugging is going to take (hopefully a week). We'll want to make sure there are no serious issues left at all before we release the game, so this'll be our top priority.


Okay, it's good to hear that... :redd:

I hope the final version will rock! :udgy: I see much more interesting story in your game.. even the joke fits all and I'm ROLF.. hehehe..

btw, just a suggestion, but, on the final version, could the script of the game is encrypted? So the people that stucked can't cheat by looking on the script on the game, hehe...

I'm blind about pywright, so, I'm apologize if my suggestion is non sense... :yogi:
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Thanks !

As for your suggestion, though that may sound like a good idea, making it work in practice would probably take so much time and effort that it would not be worth it. Besides, I don't think you'll be saying the same thing when playing the final version... trial day 2 is very tough and unforgiving : either you know the answer or you don't ; you can't just throw out random guesses. So the ability to "cheat" in last resort might help counterbalance any potential frustration the player may feel because of that.
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Yeah... I am waiting for the thoughest.. :redd:

because, until the third demo.. I'm clueless who is the responsible for all of this.. hehehe..
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Something I noticed while playing the demo just occurred to me.

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During the first trial, when you get to ask Fisher a question, the judge says he’s letting you ask just one question. However, if you screw up, you get a half-way penalty. You should get the maximum penalty, a.k.a an instant Guilty verdict instead. It isn’t that hard to determine where to ask, so it wouldn’t be in any way unfair.

Serve the Story - that's one of my rules.
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Nice observation, thanks a lot!

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Though
1) that might make things too difficult - the question is not as obvious as you make it out to be - so another possibility would be to change the "one question" part of it
2) it is not totally incoherent not to give a game over, because the judge is assuming that even though your pressing of the statement is a waste of time, it is by no means the real question you intended to ask.

I'll consider the different options before making a decision.

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Spoiler:
1) I’ll admit it isn’t that obvious(how do you think I found this out?), but this is supposed to be the final case, so it’s supposed to be hard.
Also, changing the “One question” part would be difficult, since it’s an important part of the conversation.
2) If that’s the case, than you should flesh out his reaction a bit more. The way it is now he seems to contradict himself a bit.

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Progress update !


Coding is now 100% completed (save for the extra phone conversations) thanks to Filip1236, Tap and yours truly.
This means that although the game is not ready yet, it is now fully playable from the beginning to the very end!
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Great Game! Plot/Script Very Well Written! I'm Still playing Day 1, Trial, but I thought I tell you of a couple of glitches.
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1. During my first playthrough, after talking to Meekins, he left Clooney's Prison Asylum. I had already collected all the evidence, and spoken to Ema. She then announced that she was going to the Criminal Affairs Department, but she was still in the Siamese cell. When I went back to Wright Anything Agency, I couldn't progress and further in the game.
2. After doing a new game again, after talking to Meekins, the opposite happened: Meekins stayed at Clooney's Prison Asylum, and Ema left the Siamese Cell. This time, I could progress with the story, but I'm not sure I'm supposed to get two results from playing the same part.
3. Sometimes, when Poole is speaking, G. Strings is in another layer right in front of Poole.

Other Problems
When Poole is blinking, a couple of white pixels show up on her left shoulder.
Just asking, how come the judge has a different sprite in the detention center than at the courtroom.


Either than that, Great! Hopefully these are fixed in the final release. Good Luck!
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Thanks a lot for your nice comments!

Regarding the glitches, we are about to compile a gigantic list of all the ones mentioned in this topic, and try to remove them one by one.

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Plus your issue sounds like it won't be too complicated to solve, as the coding of the first investigation is quite simple, and I'm familiar with it.

If I may ask, when did you pick up the wig in 1/ and 2/? Just curious.

The reason why Judge has a different sprite is because of the "Guilty" dream, which wouldn't work if this were the big version.

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Spoiler:
Both times, I picked up the wig after speaking to Meekins.

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Spoiler:
Hmm... there doesn't seem to be any obvious mistake in the code... the variables are set using apparently proper syntax.

Maybe the now-useless "noflag" lines have something to do with it...

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Spoiler:
I don't know how to use PYWright yet (though i'm learning [I have a fan game planned]), so this might have something to do with it. (sorry i forgot to mention)
The first time, after speaking with Ema, she left. i spoke to Meekins. Meekins left, and I went to WAA. Before talking to Rhea, I went to criminal affairs. They told me Ema was in questioning. Then, when i went to the Siamese Cell she was back.

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