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ありがとうございます JapaneseGIRL!!!!

What a brilliant trailer.. looks so smooth and hilarious! Also... :maya: :p

And yay for classic Ace Attorney speech bubbles! although no voices yet :)
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oh, and the website now has that beautiful trailer music! I hope this is the title theme, rather than one used in game :)
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http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/bgm/tgs_pv_20110830.mp3

It's the same strange Layton remix of the Objection theme from the TGS event.

I also notice that, in most shots from the original trailer, they try to hide young Luke. Looks like the decision to use the original Luke was a rather hasty decision.

Also, :garyuu: @ spinning/dancing mob jury.
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It's cool watching Phoenix jump through two generations of graphics.. it all looks really good.
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Good god...that trailer.

I must have this game - Level 5, Capcom, Don't fail us now!
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Aaaah that emotionless objection face...I really hope it doesn't ruin it for me.

Though I think Layton's 3D model came out better the gameplay looks good enough.

Though I hope ALL the music isn't Laytonised I prefer GS's music.
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That is one awesome trailer!

Though I agree with Pierre, that emotionless objection face tortures me a little.. but seeing as it is one of the most important poses for our characters, don't you think it will be polished up before the game's release?
Also, I hope they do something about toothless Maya :payne: If you don't know what I am referring to, watch the video again and look at the way Maya talks (the scene with Maya we've also seen a screenshot of).

Other than that, it looks fantastic!

EDIT: I am starting to think that the objection scene in the end won't occur in the game. Don't get me wrong, I am sure there will be some sort of objection with Wright and Layton side by side, but the angle of the camera and their face expression suggests that the clip was only created for this trailer. Could be wrong though.
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ghjsfhldjsfhdlfsd Amazing. Thanks, JapaneseGIRL!

I also upped it to YouTube if anyone prefers that, and will be happy to sub later if someone translates.
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Say YES to retro sound effects. :larry2:

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Though I hope ALL the music isn't Laytonised I prefer GS's music.

Indeed. Between the two, it's not even a question.
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That was awesome! the 3D models look amazing! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is getting me so excited!! We finally got to look at some gameplay. Personally, I quite like the music but hey Ace Attorney music should definitely be included especially during courtroom scenes. But the sprite of the mob hudding around one another just looks awkward to me, and is it only me or does Phoenix's face seem to be tilted too slightly down during his thoughts in Court? I like how the Prosecutor looks though! Other than that, so far so good, I think by the time it comes out it will be amazing! :)
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This is a very delayed reaction on my part, but I was listening to the new MP3, and then comparing it to Objection 2001... I was like... this doesn't sound like Phoenix's objection theme... Moved onto Objection 2002... UNG couldn't stand that song. Next. Objection 2004, Nope not even close.

Then it hit me. Objection 2007, Apollo's objection. It has the same primary rhythm starting at 0:26 in the new song.
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Then it hit me. Objection 2007, Apollo's objection. It has the same primary rhythm starting at 0:26 in the new song.
It is somewhat reminiscent of it, now that you mention it. Does it really count as a remix, though? :eh?:
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Unless it was already said,

Here is the youtube video.
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I still say that Maya is missing her teeth right now :i

OMG! Just realised that when Wright and Layton object at the end, the characters themselves turn into the logo's!! :D
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..what!? that's cool :payne:
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I've gone ahead and subbed it on YouTube. There may be a few small errors, so feel free to correct me.

Also, Woost, now that TGS is over, should we do a wrap-up post like last year?
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The 3D models look really good and the trailer looks epic overall.
I hope not all of the music is done in the Layton style though. I prefer GS' music though Layton had some beautiful tracks (eg Iris in PB) and LF.
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Say YES to retro sound effects. :larry2:

Pierre wrote:
Though I hope ALL the music isn't Laytonised I prefer GS's music.

Indeed. Between the two, it's not even a question.

Personally I prefer Layton's music... By far.

But yeah, this looks glorious and I can't wait for it to come out in Europe.
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Lol, of course, they just had to make Maya eating burgers in one of the cutscenes...

The trailer is great. This is gonna be the best thing that's happened in a long time.

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I've gone ahead and subbed it on YouTube. There may be a few small errors, so feel free to correct me.

Also, Woost, now that TGS is over, should we do a wrap-up post like last year?


If you wanna do it, be my guest. I'm feeling a little bit underwhelmed with this year's TGS, so I might not do a summery justice this time around.
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Wooster wrote:
http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/bgm/tgs_pv_20110830.mp3

It's the same strange Layton remix of the Objection theme from the TGS event.

I also notice that, in most shots from the original trailer, they try to hide young Luke. Looks like the decision to use the original Luke was a rather hasty decision.

Also, :garyuu: @ spinning/dancing mob jury.


What TGS event and trailer are you referring to?
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Oh... Oh God.

I was not... I definitely wasn't prepared for this.

I DEMAND SOMEONE DOES A FRAME-BY-FRAME BREAKDOWN OF THE LAST 30 SECONDS. TOO MUCH FOOTAGE IN THERE FOR US TO IGNORE IT! I mean COME ON, LUKE AND PHOENIX!

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Wooster wrote:
http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/bgm/tgs_pv_20110830.mp3

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This is a very delayed reaction on my part, but I was listening to the new MP3, and then comparing it to Objection 2001... I was like... this doesn't sound like Phoenix's objection theme... Moved onto Objection 2002... UNG couldn't stand that song. Next. Objection 2004, Nope not even close.

Then it hit me. Objection 2007, Apollo's objection. It has the same primary rhythm starting at 0:26 in the new song.

Hmm, I disagree. I don't think the song sounds specifically like a remix of any previous Objection theme at all. It does have that certain feel of one however so maybe this is just the Objection theme the game will actually use? It also sounds a bit like a Cross-Examination theme even.

It's still very good though.
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I DEMAND SOMEONE DOES A FRAME-BY-FRAME BREAKDOWN OF THE LAST 30 SECONDS. TOO MUCH FOOTAGE IN THERE FOR US TO IGNORE IT!

I'll take this challenge...
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http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/bgm/tgs_pv_20110830.mp3


Wooster wrote:
This is a very delayed reaction on my part, but I was listening to the new MP3, and then comparing it to Objection 2001... I was like... this doesn't sound like Phoenix's objection theme... Moved onto Objection 2002... UNG couldn't stand that song. Next. Objection 2004, Nope not even close.

Then it hit me. Objection 2007, Apollo's objection. It has the same primary rhythm starting at 0:26 in the new song.


Hmm, I disagree. I don't think the song sounds specifically like a remix of any previous Objection theme at all. It does have that certain feel of one however so maybe this is just the Objection theme the game will actually use? It also sounds a bit like a Cross-Examination theme even.

It's still very good though.


My thoughts exactly, Yaragorm. I don't find that it sounds like any Objection theme. At least, it definitely is not a remix or a new version of an existing Objection theme. But it does have a similar vibe, so it could be this game's.

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As I said, it contains the 'rhythm' of Objection 2007, where if a set of 16th notes is written as "1 E & A" it's the repeated "1 & 2 & 3 A" that betray's Apollo's objection. That was me trying to figure out why I had described the song as a Layton remix of the Objection theme, if it wasn't Phoenix's classic 2001 version. It 'did' contain elements of an objection song, but not any of the ones I had initially thought.
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Hurm...maybe I'm just going off the rails here but...

Does the fact the subbed trailer (thanks Bolty) says "Layton and Wrights FIRST encounter" make anyone else at all think that a potential...sequel....could ever exist?
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Hurm...maybe I'm just going off the rails here but...

Does the fact the subbed trailer (thanks Bolty) says "Layton and Wrights FIRST encounter" make anyone else at all think that a potential...sequel....could ever exist?


:gant: I thought it was emphasis on how unique the game was but hopefully it could also be interpreted that way :franny:
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It is just a way of emphasizing uniqueness - the "first" was just a word I used to help convey the verb used in that context (just "Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright's encounter" sounded a little dry.) So sorry, no sequel tease this early.
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It is just a way of emphasizing uniqueness - the "first" was just a word I used to help convey the verb used in that context (just "Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright's encounter" sounded a little dry.) So sorry, no sequel tease this early.


You're such a tease Bolty :gant:
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Perhaps 'epic' would be a better word?
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WHY CAN'T THIS BE OUT YET IT LOOKS SO GOOD

I don't really like the graphics much, though. Maybe it'll look better in 3D.
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This looks so epic and awesome...

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I still say that Maya is missing her teeth right now :i


It looks like it could be an aliasing issue. If you look at the screenshots that were released before this trailer, she has a top row of teeth. But yeah, she does look a bit goofy in the trailer.
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Hurm...maybe I'm just going off the rails here but...

Does the fact the subbed trailer (thanks Bolty) says "Layton and Wrights FIRST encounter" make anyone else at all think that a potential...sequel....could ever exist?


That line was synced with Layton entering the room, so I got the impression that they were just highlighting their first encounter within this game. I could be misreading it
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There was something in this new trailer that I noticed was different from the first trailer.

In this trailer, the blonde girl suspected of being a witch is standing in a cage but in the previous trailer she was just standing/sitting behind a desk. Not only that but the courtrooms in the two trailers themselves are vastly different. I'm not sure what that means though, it could easily be explained by the first trailer being beta material but if I had to put in my two cents I think that this game will be structured like a typical Ace Attorney game: multiple cases and an overarching plot that gets resolved in the last one, that might do something to explain why the courtrooms are so vastly different and it could also be used to clear up issues over Maya's clothing also making her seem like a witch.
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I'm not sure I agree with that - the original trailer functioned well as a "concept trailer", hitting the important visual ideas and story elements before the details could be locked down - as has been noted, Luke switched from his PL4/PL5 outfit to his PL1-3 one, possibly in advance of PL6. It's possible there'll be more than one 'case', but I don't think the trailer is indicative of that.
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I am really curious whether or not it'll at least be broken into chapters or something. Seems weird to think that Nick will be defending one person through a whole game. Gotta wonder how long they can sustain a witch trial, even if they break it up into in-court and exploration sequences like they do in the regular PW games. I wonder about the gameplay length in general.
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I hope we've still got 'anime' cutscenes like in the very first trailer; 3D models are all well and good but there's something quintessential about Layton-like anime that they can't capture.
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