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If the game was released in Europe (which would be great) I hope it isn't censored or anything (probably it won't be but some games do get censored over here eg No More Heroes & Ninja Gaiden).
Just seen on Amazon its down for a release date of: October 24, 2012 - maybe thats just a placeholder though?

http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Escape-Virtu ... 265&sr=1-2
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Found this comment on Aksys' site which is slightly worrying:

"Unfortunately the 3DS system is region-locked, which means we can’t release region-free 3DS games. If you’d like to see VLR in Europe, I encourage you to contact your local localizers, like Rising Star or Ghostlight".

Does that mean a) IF it is released in Europe, the script will be different? b) I thought publishers could choose to make their games Region Free or not? At least theres the option of a Vita but its a lot to buy for 1 game only, grrrr.
Thats a shame I'll probably have to get 2 different machines, it sounds like unless a 3DS version is published in Europe I won't be able to play it on there.
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Huh. Maybe the way it works is if region locking is available, to make it region free the game must be approved in all regions, and Aksys doesn't have the process or money for that. Because I thought you could make some games on the 3DS region free.

Or maybe there is no such thing as a region-free 3DS game. If so, color me surprised.

EDIT: As for the differing scripts, the European localizers could pay Aksys for their game script. I'm sure something like that's been done before, since it would be easier than translating the game from Japanese twice.
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I wasnt sure either. Guess I just have to wait and see if it gets a European release or not but if a European 3DS version has a different localiser, I'm worried the script/localisation may not be as good (don't understand how that works anyway, can't Nintendo just bring it over and optimise the game for European 3DS?)
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I wasnt sure either. Guess I just have to wait and see if it gets a European release or not but if a European 3DS version has a different localiser, I'm worried the script/localisation may not be as good (don't understand how that works anyway, can't Nintendo just bring it over and optimise the game for European 3DS?)


This game is a third party title, so the only thing NOE (Nintendo of Europe) does with this game is approve its release on the system. Another company, the localizer, is the one actually responsible for bringing the game over and adapting it to the region (translation, local censorship laws, etc.)

Aksys is the company localizing the game in the United States. They translate, localize, and publish the game. The only thing NOA (Nintendo of America) does is give the game the Seal of Approval (and other small things, like providing the developer kit).

As I said, the European localizer may be able to strike a deal with Aksys to use their script for the English translation, so the European version might not be immediately different in English. But they may find the need to change some things anyway.
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Thanks for the explanation :)
I'll wait and see what happens (or get a Vita if there are other games I want on it). It'll be even more annoying buying a USA 3DS for one game :D
I dropped Rising Star games an email to see what would happen, just asking about localisation.
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Obviously they wouldn't change the script. They would either release it in Europe as it is or maybe would add German, French, Italian and Spanish text.
It's not the first time a game has a completely different publisher in Europe than in the USA.
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http://zero-escape.com/

Thought you guys might want to see this, nabbed it from tumblr. As they said, I think it's a good idea to keep an eye on this.
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Perhaps with the Zero Escape branding, it could hint at a DS re-release (or possible EU release for 999?), not sure though.
I'll let you know if I hear anything from Rising Star (they've published some of Aksys' games in the past like the Bit Trip games).
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http://zero-escape.com/

Thought you guys might want to see this, nabbed it from tumblr. As they said, I think it's a good idea to keep an eye on this.


That's quite clearly a picture of 999's Zero.
I hope this rebranding will lead to a european release of the 1st game... leading to a EU release of the sequel ;)

I wonder how they'll call 999.... Zero Escape: 999?
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I was thinking the same thing as you LA, with the rebranding that may be as good a chance we have of the original and the sequel getting an EU release.
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So, now that we can officially speculate on an English version... Who would you want to voice each character? Personally, the only one I have an opinion on is K. I want him to be voiced by J. Micheal Tatum. Why? So I can pretend that's Sebastian in that suit and satisfy my inner fangirl.

Also, I think that Amazon date might hold some truth in it. I went back and looked at who posted it on the Aksys forums. It's the same guy who gave us that "No plans" message.
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Do you think i should email Rising Star again? I havent heard anything yet.
If the worst happens I'll ask for a Vita...
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Before the serious spoilers come out in English, does anyone have any theories as to whom Zero is? I've heard Junpei mentioned a few times. :P

Spoiler: Speculation
K and Dio are currently the two I suspect the most of being Zero. Luna and Phi are the two I suspect the least, with Alice close behind.
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Before the serious spoilers come out in English, does anyone have any theories as to whom Zero is? I've heard Junpei mentioned a few times. :P

Spoiler: Speculation
K and Dio are currently the two I suspect the most of being Zero. Luna and Phi are the two I suspect the least, with Alice close behind.


Spoiler: Speculation
Mmm... Personally, I think K is a red herring. I expect his identity will be an important plot twist, and possibly related to the color black, but I doubt they'd waste the who-dun-it on the elephant in the room.

Phi... again, an important character, but I don't think they'd use 999's plot twist a second time.

Luna on the other hand I strongly suspect is the game's Boss, like Ace was (Things her bio emphasized set off red flags for me). I don't know that she's necessarily Zero, but I do think she's an important villain.

I don't suspect anything of Gramps, I figure the grump is going to be played similar to Seven, all the stereotypes of one character design not applying.

You know what. I'm going to throw something out there. I bet the kid is Zero. No one would suspect it, because it totally doesn't make sense. But then you've got those weird speakers on his head, and maybe we can have some mind controlled puppets... or something

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Wooster wrote:
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Before the serious spoilers come out in English, does anyone have any theories as to whom Zero is? I've heard Junpei mentioned a few times. :P

Spoiler: Speculation
K and Dio are currently the two I suspect the most of being Zero. Luna and Phi are the two I suspect the least, with Alice close behind.


Spoiler: Speculation
Mmm... Personally, I think K is a red herring. I expect his identity will be an important plot twist, and possibly related to the color black, but I doubt they'd waste the who-dun-it on the elephant in the room.

Phi... again, an important character, but I don't think they'd use 999's plot twist a second time.

Luna on the other hand I strongly suspect is the game's Boss, like Ace was (Things her bio emphasized set off red flags for me). I don't know that she's necessarily Zero, but I do think she's an important villain.

I don't suspect anything of Gramps, I figure the grump is going to be played similar to Seven, all the stereotypes of one character design not applying.

You know what. I'm going to throw something out there. I bet the kid is Zero. No one would suspect it, because it totally doesn't make sense. But then you've got those weird speakers on his head, and maybe we can have some mind controlled puppets... or something


Spoiler: Even more Speculation
I think it might be Phi, solely because there's absolutely no way it would be her. They expect us to write her off, but... If I had to actually guess, I'd say... K. What if Zero put himself in his own game... and doesn't even know he's zero? I think Quark will go on a killing spree in one ending, but I don't think he's the killer. On that note, I think there is a killer who acts against Zero3 (IE, Ace being the killer, but June being Zero). Fanon wants Zero3 to be Junpei, but I doubt that it's anyone besides one of the current 9.

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Spoiler: Even more
IMO I think Zero 3 is Junpei trying to get June back (bunny motif, think about it), not sure if June is still the True Zero though.

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MrGiggles wrote:
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Before the serious spoilers come out in English, does anyone have any theories as to whom Zero is? I've heard Junpei mentioned a few times. :P

Spoiler: Speculation
K and Dio are currently the two I suspect the most of being Zero. Luna and Phi are the two I suspect the least, with Alice close behind.


Spoiler: Speculation
Mmm... Personally, I think K is a red herring. I expect his identity will be an important plot twist, and possibly related to the color black, but I doubt they'd waste the who-dun-it on the elephant in the room.

Phi... again, an important character, but I don't think they'd use 999's plot twist a second time.

Luna on the other hand I strongly suspect is the game's Boss, like Ace was (Things her bio emphasized set off red flags for me). I don't know that she's necessarily Zero, but I do think she's an important villain.

I don't suspect anything of Gramps, I figure the grump is going to be played similar to Seven, all the stereotypes of one character design not applying.

You know what. I'm going to throw something out there. I bet the kid is Zero. No one would suspect it, because it totally doesn't make sense. But then you've got those weird speakers on his head, and maybe we can have some mind controlled puppets... or something


Spoiler: Even more Speculation
I think it might be Phi, solely because there's absolutely no way it would be her. They expect us to write her off, but... If I had to actually guess, I'd say... K. What if Zero put himself in his own game... and doesn't even know he's zero? I think Quark will go on a killing spree in one ending, but I don't think he's the killer. On that note, I think there is a killer who acts against Zero3 (IE, Ace being the killer, but June being Zero). Fanon wants Zero3 to be Junpei, but I doubt that it's anyone besides one of the current 9.


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Spoiler: Even more
IMO I think Zero 3 is Junpei trying to get June back (bunny motif, think about it), not sure if June is still the True Zero though.


Spoiler: And even more speculation, 999 spoilers
If you don't mind my asking, Wooster, why possibly connected to the colour black?

Luna's bio did make a point about her being a doctor....I wonder if she works at that hospital that's connected to Cradle? The one that all the children visited and were screened as potential subjects for the Nonary project? I doubt Luna would have any connection to Ace's Nonary game, as she's only a couple of years older than Junpei and June, but I imagine the hospital would have kept it's links to Cradle post the Nonary project.

No one suspects Tenmyoji of anything. Therefore, he is probably behind everything. :shoe:

While Junpei being Zero would be quite a twist, you'd really need to have played 999 to understand the full gravity of that revelation, and isn't this game supposed to be able to stand alone? Even though it helps a lot to have played 999 first. Also, I think June would be horrified if Junpei pulled something like that. She is a very cold person, who will kill if the situation calls for it, but I think she's very aware of the person she is, she knows what she put everyone in 999 through, and I think she genuinely does feel bad about what she did, but if she hadn't set up the Nonary game, she wouldn't have survived.

Anyone got any theories on Zero 2?
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I don't consider this a spoiler, so no tags.

The rooms are colored coded. There's a Cyan, a Magenta, and a Yellow room. These are the secondary colors of light, or more importantly, the primary colors of print, sans one, but I'll get to that. RGB stands for Red Green and Blue, the primary colors of light. The shorthand for the colors of print is CMYK for Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, and Black. Black's initial is 'K' so when talking about the two spectrums, you don't confuse blue for black.

My bet is that K's story will have to deal with the yet unseen Black room.

Spoiler: Luna
No no, you miss understand me. I don't think Luna has anything to do with Ace himself or his Nonary game. More like how Apollo is his game's Phoenix, Trucy is that game's Mia, and Klavier is that game's Edgeworth. The characters have nothing to do with each other except in how the game treats them. I strongly suspect that Luna is a villain. Not 'the' villain Zero, but decidedly not a person to be trusted.

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Oh hai speculation.
Spoiler: 999, maybe good people die if this person is right.
http://twistedthingsandchocolate.tumblr.com/post/18808777887/guys-the-boy-in-the-upper-right-corner-dunno-if
I didn't think he looked like Dio at first, due to the hair color differences, but the more I look...
Wouldn't that be a twist? Bringing in a character from 999 who's not one of the titular nine...

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Oh hai speculation.
Spoiler: 999, maybe good people die if this person is right.
http://twistedthingsandchocolate.tumblr.com/post/18808777887/guys-the-boy-in-the-upper-right-corner-dunno-if
I didn't think he looked like Dio at first, due to the hair color differences, but the more I look...
Wouldn't that be a twist? Bringing in a character from 999 who's not one of the titular nine...


Hmm... I guess a good way to figure if that holds water is to test the age.

Spoiler:
Snakes was in both of 999's Nonary games, and was in his early 20's in 999 proper and presumably 'Dio'. How long is it between 999 and that-which-was-formerly-known-as-Good-People-Die? Because if it's too long, it might not be Dio due to too much time having past

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Wooster wrote:
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Oh hai speculation.
Spoiler: 999, maybe Virtue's Last Reward if this person is right.
http://twistedthingsandchocolate.tumblr.com/post/18808777887/guys-the-boy-in-the-upper-right-corner-dunno-if
I didn't think he looked like Dio at first, due to the hair color differences, but the more I look...
Wouldn't that be a twist? Bringing in a character from 999 who's not one of the titular nine...


Hmm... I guess a good way to figure if that holds water is to test the age.

Spoiler:
Snakes was in both of 999's Nonary games, and was in his early 20's in 999 proper and presumably 'Dio'. How long is it between 999 and that-which-was-formerly-known-as-Good-People-Die? Because if it's too long, it might not be Dio due to too much time having past


This is a non-spoiler that was released with the announcement of the game, so no tags:

Virtue's Last Reward takes place one year after the events of 999. (Clover is 18 in 999, and 19 in VLR)
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Wooster wrote:
I don't consider this a spoiler, so no tags.

The rooms are colored coded. There's a Cyan, a Magenta, and a Yellow room. These are the secondary colors of light, or more importantly, the primary colors of print, sans one, but I'll get to that. RGB stands for Red Green and Blue, the primary colors of light. The shorthand for the colors of print is CMYK for Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, and Black. Black's initial is 'K' so when talking about the two spectrums, you don't confuse blue for black.

My bet is that K's story will have to deal with the yet unseen Black room.

Spoiler: Luna
No no, you miss understand me. I don't think Luna has anything to do with Ace himself or his Nonary game. More like how Apollo is his game's Phoenix, Trucy is that game's Mia, and Klavier is that game's Edgeworth. The characters have nothing to do with each other except in how the game treats them. I strongly suspect that Luna is a villain. Not 'the' villain Zero, but decidedly not a person to be trusted.


Spoiler: Luna
Sorry, I wasn't clear in my post, I don't think Luna has any connection to Ace, but she may have links to Cradle, whom were probably involved in more shady projects than just the Nonary project.


MrGiggles wrote:
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Oh hai speculation.
Spoiler: 999, maybe Virtue's Last Reward if this person is right.
http://twistedthingsandchocolate.tumblr.com/post/18808777887/guys-the-boy-in-the-upper-right-corner-dunno-if
I didn't think he looked like Dio at first, due to the hair color differences, but the more I look...
Wouldn't that be a twist? Bringing in a character from 999 who's not one of the titular nine...


Hmm... I guess a good way to figure if that holds water is to test the age.

Spoiler:
Snakes was in both of 999's Nonary games, and was in his early 20's in 999 proper and presumably 'Dio'. How long is it between 999 and that-which-was-formerly-known-as-Good-People-Die? Because if it's too long, it might not be Dio due to too much time having past


This is a non-spoiler that was released with the announcement of the game, so no tags:

Virtue's Last Reward takes place one year after the events of 999. (Clover is 18 in 999, and 19 in VLR)


Spoiler: Speculation, 999
If it really is Dio, then is Dio's brother or sister also important? Would ChunSoft really pull the "X and Y" are actually related twist again?
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If the game was released in Europe (which would be great) I hope it isn't censored or anything (probably it won't be but some games do get censored over here eg No More Heroes & Ninja Gaiden).
Just seen on Amazon its down for a release date of: October 24, 2012 - maybe thats just a placeholder though?

http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Escape-Virtu ... 265&sr=1-2


To be fair, No More Heroes wasn't really censored. The blood wasn't present in the Japanese version either; it was specifically added for the US version. Apparently, Suda51 thought it'd be more appealing to the US audience that way.

I don't think VLR would get censored if it got released here; it'd just get rated PEGI 18.
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An 18 rated DS game? Thats a rare thing indeed!
You're right it could be rated 18 (certainly 999 would be rated PEGI 16 if not higher IMO).
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Probably PEGI 16, it's only CERO C in Japan.
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Is there a higher Japanese rating than that like CERO D or X? :D
I agree PEGI 16 (or BBFC 15 maybe) seems more likely.
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I doubt it'll get over 15/16 over in Europe. Definitely going to be M in America, though. I think it's the swearing and blood that does it. Or Lotus'/Alice's boobs.
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Probably a bit of both :D
Though with BBFC game ratings they will say things like "Contains strong language" or whatever whereas the PEGI ratings just have the symbols.
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According to this over at NeoGAF, having 24 endings doesnt mean you have to play through the game 24 times.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464849&page=9

Does the Vita have a stylus like the DS? Touching with your fingers could leave many prints on the screen, no?
I still hope for an EU 3DS release but if the worst comes to the worst, Vita it is.
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The Vita has a capacitive touch screen, and doesn't come with a capacitive stylus. So you can only use your fingers (or a third party capacitive stylus, but that would make the Vita awkward to hold).

The 3DS has a resistive touch screen, which depends on pressure rather than a conductive finger, so that's why you usually use a stylus with it rather than your finger (would be more expensive to make the screen fingerprint resistant).

I'm sure that the glass on the Vita is fingerprint resistant, like the iPhone, so I don't think that's an issue.

Interesting...

Spoiler:
Given that you have the timeline sort of thing that branches (I saw that in a screenshot a while ago), perhaps you can jump to any previous major decision in the story. Would be easier than starting from the beginning after hitting an ending.

I'm sure that, like in 999, there'll be an in-story explanation as to why you can do whatever that game mechanic actually is.


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I didnt know that, thanks. I wasnt sure of the differences between "resistive" and "capacitive" and am so used to the DS screen/stylus. :)
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I'm not too familiar with how resistive screens work (Other then they work with pressure, and that the DS cannot track more then one item at once), but I'm lead to believe that capacitive displays work by tracking the static electricity in your fingers.
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I'm not too familiar with how resistive screens work (Other then they work with pressure, and that the DS cannot track more then one item at once), but I'm lead to believe that capacitive displays work by tracking the static electricity in your fingers.

You are correct about capacitive.

Resistive touch screens are essentially two thin sheets of material that are conductive (with resistance) separated by an air gap, and pressure causes the two sheets to touch. The position is measured based on the resulting voltage across the two sheets. The (3)DS touch screen doesn't have multitouch, but resistive touch screens can be designed to have multitouch (which is not really needed on a screen designed for a stylus, but would be desired on a smartphone).
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In case Rising Star wouldnt publish here, I contacted Ghostlight - I remember Aksys suggesting people who wanted to see VLR on 3DS for the UK contact them. I dont know how good Ghostlight are though and I doubt Aksys would say anything is going on behind our backs if it involves a UK company (though I'm sure they could co-operate).
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If Ghostlight ever published the game in the UK, it'd be the Vita version, since most of the games they've published are on Playstation consoles, and the few games they ever published on Nintendo consoles seems to be of very dubious quality...
Plus, they seems rather focused on JRPG, though that's not the only kind of games they've published.
And frankly, it would be rather useless to have the only version of the game that isn't region-locked...

Then again, I can't say I can predict what will happen, but I doubt Ghostlight will be the one to publish the game in Europe, at least on 3DS.
Hope you get an answer anyway, grim_tales. Who knows, if we end up getting VLR 3DS in Europe, it might be thanks to you ;)
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Hey guys, you know what everyone in this thread loves? Links. :keiko:
The reasoning behind the localization name (No spoilers)

And this... There's no spoilers to the magnitude of X, the killer's, theme, but this IS the english names of the OST (aka the soundtrack). (Don't know if this was posted yet. As far as I see, it only spoils locations, sort of. And check out the first / last track names. "Virtue's Last Reward" as a title haters are going to rage / hate. (Love all of you.)

Spoiler: English OST names.

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I actually kinda like "Just Death"...

Anyway, cool to find out exactly what that title meant.
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L~A, haha, I hope I get a response soon as well :D
Thats a very good article on why they decided to go with "VLR" as a title, I know the phrase "Virtue is its own reward" but not the other one. Really looking forward to it.
IMO if (say) Rising Star were to publish VLR, they should release it here at the same time as America.
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