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Hey guys, you know what everyone in this thread loves? Links. 
The reasoning behind the localization name (No spoilers)
And this... There's no spoilers to the magnitude of X, the killer's, theme, but this IS the english names of the OST (aka the soundtrack). (Don't know if this was posted yet. As far as I see, it only spoils locations, sort of. And check out the first / last track names. "Virtue's Last Reward" as a title haters are going to rage / hate. (Love all of you.)
The reasoning behind the localization name (No spoilers)
And this... There's no spoilers to the magnitude of X, the killer's, theme, but this IS the english names of the OST (aka the soundtrack). (Don't know if this was posted yet. As far as I see, it only spoils locations, sort of. And check out the first / last track names. "Virtue's Last Reward" as a title haters are going to rage / hate. (Love all of you.)
Spoiler: English OST names.
I couldnt resist and looked at the names!
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grim_tales wrote:
According to this over at NeoGAF, having 24 endings doesnt mean you have to play through the game 24 times.
That's kind of a given, though, isn't it? 999 didn't require you do everything before the unlocking the true ending.
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Nonetheless, I love playing it out according to the story, so naturally I'll be trying out every one before the final ending.
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We already had this image a few pages ago.
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MrGiggles wrote:
Huh. I always interpreted that statement as saying that you could just skip to certain parts of the game instead of having to restart, like you did in 999.
That's what I thought too. :?
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EDIT: Hey, friends in Europe, have you already read Ghostlight's response to someone asking for VLR's localization? I think it definitely seems optimistic (I can post a link later if you guys haven't seen it yet)
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I have to admit that I have only finished one ending of 999 as of now, because I was really, really annoyed there was no flow-chart system there. Having played Kamaitachi no Yoru and 428 before 999 (which all feature multiple endings), I was really surprised they got rid of such a great option in a newer game.... I'm now busy with Kamaitachi no Yoru 2, but the game would be unplayable if I had to start all over again for every 100+ ending/9+ scenarios!
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MrGiggles wrote:
Ah, that's the image I was looking for. Yes, I am curious on how the system lock scenario works... And just how unique these endings are. Look at what we see... Assuming there's ~3 escape rooms for each route, that doesn't look like it could branch out to 24 different unique branches...
EDIT: Hey, friends in Europe, have you already read Ghostlight's response to someone asking for VLR's localization? I think it definitely seems optimistic (I can post a link later if you guys haven't seen it yet)
EDIT: Hey, friends in Europe, have you already read Ghostlight's response to someone asking for VLR's localization? I think it definitely seems optimistic (I can post a link later if you guys haven't seen it yet)
Really? I'm sure they said "24 different endings, each unique" in the press release - even if they arent, its a lot more than 999 :D
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MrGiggles wrote:
Ah, that's the image I was looking for. Yes, I am curious on how the system lock scenario works... And just how unique these endings are. Look at what we see... Assuming there's ~3 escape rooms for each route, that doesn't look like it could branch out to 24 different unique branches...
EDIT: Hey, friends in Europe, have you already read Ghostlight's response to someone asking for VLR's localization? I think it definitely seems optimistic (I can post a link later if you guys haven't seen it yet)
EDIT: Hey, friends in Europe, have you already read Ghostlight's response to someone asking for VLR's localization? I think it definitely seems optimistic (I can post a link later if you guys haven't seen it yet)
I havent seen that yet, would be grand if you could post it :) If Ghostlight localise it lets hope they keep the dual audio and all other features...
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Bam. Enjoy.
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Havent had a reply from Rising Star yet either.
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MrGiggles wrote:
Ghostlight's response.
Bam. Enjoy.
Bam. Enjoy.
Translated for those who do understand PR English:
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We're never gonna release VLR in Europe, but we don't want to appear like d*cks to fans, so we'll pretend we're interested so they might not be tempted to give us bad word of mouth because we said we weren't gonna localise one lone title.
Call me an optimistically pessimistic pessimist, but that's exactly the kind of answer of vague answer we get when they don't want to say 'no' openly. At best, they're really considering it... Still, thank you grim_tales (and the person who actually got an aswer from them) for contacting them on our behalf :)
I really hope Rising Star will pick up the game for the EU... pretty please. I think I might send them an email soon...
Oh, and F|_|CK region-locking. You better get rid of that sh*t in your 3DSiXLite, Nintendo. Seriously.
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Oh, and F|_|CK region-locking. You better get rid of that sh*t in your 3DSiXLite, Nintendo. Seriously.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo can easily remove it in a system update. I never understood it myself. Most people say it's because online would be screwy, but, like on PS3, you could have multiple accounts, everything would be fine.
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BTW, yesterday I actually got the same exact response from GL that MrGiggles posted.
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L~A wrote:
Oh, and F|_|CK region-locking. You better get rid of that sh*t in your 3DSiXLite, Nintendo. Seriously.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo can easily remove it in a system update. I never understood it myself. Most people say it's because online would be screwy, but, like on PS3, you could have multiple accounts, everything would be fine.
Oh, how I wished they'd do that.
And region-locking got nothing to do with online.
If you want to restrict people to a certain region when they play online, you do so in the software, based on the user's location when he's connecting to the internet. For example, take L4D2 on Steam. Unless you actually befriend and get invited by a player in the US, if you're from Europe, you'll never end up in a US server if you try to join a game/lobby (unless you search for one in the serverbrowser). It's all based on their matchmaking system which takes into account your current location.
And personally, in MK7, a region-locked game... I just keep playing with Japanese/American/Canadian players, all the time. Rarely with European players :p
(Then again, maybe I didn't quite get what you mean by ''screwy online''.)
No, region-locking is just a way for them to have full control on their sofware: region-pricing, no import, etc... Because it's much harder (well, expensive actually) if you have to buy a foreign console, than simply importing the game.
That, or some shadowy reason only a couple people at Nintendo actually know, and that we'll never get to know about...
But anyway, I don't think this is the right topic to discuss of such things
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I havent had a response from RSG yet :( I'm not sure if they want that sort of message sent to them directly.
BTW, yesterday I actually got the same exact response from GL that MrGiggles posted.
BTW, yesterday I actually got the same exact response from GL that MrGiggles posted.
Well, hopefully the fact that it's become the n°1 game people want RSG to release in Europe will make them come out of their silence in the near future (even though, well, you can't just go and decide you want to localise a game like that, there's definitely a proper procedure to follow, and I'm afraid it's usually quite lengthy...).
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Take Ace Attorney for instance. It's created in Japan, then translated into English for the US, and then the English version is the basis for the European languages.
Say you're in the USA and you import from Japan. The profits from that purchase go to the Japanese developers. Not the English localization team. If you're in Europe and you import from the USA, none of your money goes to making sure future games have Spanish, Italian, French, etc translations.
And if you pirate, you're effectively against there being a games industry in the first place.
On the other hand, if a game has no intent of leaving a particular region, I believe that's free money they're locking themselves out of by region locking.
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As I understand it, region locking, at least for video games, is the industry's way of making sure each region is properly rewarded for their localization.
Yeah, but no. That would make perfect sense if the volume of imported games was anywhere near a significant amount... which it's not. At all.
Only the most hardcore fans and a very small percentage of people actually import games, for the following reasons:
1) import games can be expensive... especially Japanese ones, which are even more expensive than in Europe!
-Example with Mario Kart 7: 59.90$ for JP version on Play-Asia; 39.99$ in the US (RSP), and 44.99€ (~59$) in Europe (RSP). Took the RSP instead of cheaper prices from Amazon.
2) some people don't like buying stuff online... especially on foreign websites (pretty much most websites for video-games import).
3) long delivery times (at least a week, in general). It's especially true for games with close release dates between regions. Plus, you might risk getting your package lost/damaged along the way.
4) risk of having to pay Custom taxes (if you're unfortunate enough they decide to inspect your package).
5) Language... of course, it doesn't apply for UK citizens importing US games, but for people importing Japanese games, or non-english sppeaking players importing English games. Not everybody got enough knowlege in one language to actually got and import a game in that language.
And this is for region-free consoles (and not region-locked consoles where you need: either to buy a foreign version or mod it... further narrowing the range of potential importers).
The thing is, the impact of imported games on localised game sales in any region is totally unsignificant at best. I'm yet to see a publisher complaining their game hasn't sold well because everybody had already imported it.
But you're right when you say it's the (one of the) reason(s) region-lock exists... it's just totally from another era, and never was a valid reason in the past either (where it used to be even harder and expensive to get games). There's a reason the Xbox 360 is sort of region-free (it's up to the publisher), and Sony dropped region-locking with its PS Vita (after years spending fighting against importing websites, like Lik-Sang).
It's really become my n°1 complain about the 3DS, even more so than the pitiful battery. For more than 20 years, Nintendo never region-locked their handhelds games... why start now?
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On the other hand, if a game has no intent of leaving a particular region, I believe that's free money they're locking themselves out of by region locking.
This. Totally. Even if the amount of imported games is really unsignificant at best, it's not like they're actually losing money.
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... now to proactively avoid said spoilers.
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Phoenix Soul wrote:
Just a warning; the serious spoilers are coming out in English now.
Where? Just so, you know, we, uh, don't check...
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EDIT: Never mind, I found them... The only thing I saw made me laugh, but then I stopped. So, if someone has played it or wants to spoil themselves... Mind doing a "I only want to know one thing?"
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However, I kinda goofed. I was on GameFAQs where they have spoiler and non-spoiler threads... But sometimes things aren't tagged. I saw who Zero's identity was. Oh well. Although, I saw some pretty funny stuff. Like this:
Spoiler: Spoilered for length. Its in rot13... I laughed my ass off.
EDIT 2: Hey, guys, heads up: Since the warning posted above, something else has been added to TVTropes. It's sort of well spoilered, but even going on the page produced two, MASSIVE spoilers. One is Zero III 's identity, and the other is just flat out heartbreaking. The second spoiler is still there, so if you don't want to be spoiled at all, the 999 TVTropes pages is now totally off limits to you.
It... Well, here. THIS IS A MAJOR SPOILER, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT ENTIRELY FILLED OUT
Spoiler: General spoiler, but not specific enough to truly impact. Still a spoiler for Virtue's Last Reward, however.
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I can make the word "cricket" from the phrase but you need to use both c's - when something is described as "not cricket" - its means its not fair, or done in a shady, dodgy way or something....
Cricket in a...?
Hmmm.
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I saw who Zero's identity was. Oh well.
Spoiler: SPOILERY COMMENTS, DO NOT READ!!!
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But gosh if it isn't very tempting to view.
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
MrGiggles wrote:
I saw who Zero's identity was. Oh well.
Spoiler: SPOILERY COMMENTS, DO NOT READ!!!
Sorry man, I dont think you were spoiled right. That's not who Zero is.
It's
Spoiler: WARNING MASSIVE VLR SPOILERS
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If that's the case, hopefully the other spoiler I got from the same thread was wrong too, and nothing has actually been ruined.
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Answer me this much, since I dont want to go to TV tropes and have the whole game spoiled for me...
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Has anyone wondered if tge "Have a nice trick!" phrase has anyone significance, maybe its an anagram or something (unlikely, but you never know).
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3D mode for ages 7 and up...
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:snap: 3D mode for ages 7 and up...
HAH
That's on every 3DS box, but yeah... kinda silly to put on a game that will definitely be M.
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It's official, Zero 3 is Crazy Hand.
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Delicious US boxart.
Spoiler: Ridiculously high-res image
The looming hands do not inspire me with fear...
Oh well, box art aside, at least I still know that Zero (whoever he/she is) is never someone you mess with.
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I'm not sure if I like the boxart or not - putting such a big picture of Zero on it spoils it IMO
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grim_tales wrote:
putting such a big picture of Zero on it spoils it IMO
No, it doesn't.
That's like saying a picture of Phoenix on the AA boxart would spoil it.
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