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Considering the last game that had them both facing off was made in 04 and there's been 3 games made since then...
Well, it's actually kinda overdue! XD


Especially since Edgeworth is the Evil Magistrate to Phoenix, who is the franchise's Steel Samurai.
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Considering the last game that had them both facing off was made in 04 and there's been 3 games made since then...
Well, it's actually kinda overdue! XD


Especially since Edgeworth is the Evil Magistrate to Phoenix, who is the franchise's Steel Samurai.


Mmmh, of course Edgworth is the one wearing clothes that reveals his chest and stomach area abso-O-Oh you mean he's the Anti Hero to Phoenix's Hero... o-of course you meant that! Ahahaha... :gymshoe:

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Mmmh, of course Edgworth is the one wearing clothes that reveals his chest and stomach area abso-O-Oh you mean he's the Anti Hero to Phoenix's Hero... o-of course you meant that! Ahahaha... :gymshoe:

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Thane wrote:
Especially since Edgeworth is the Evil Magistrate to Phoenix, who is the franchise's Steel Samurai.


Speaking of Steel Samurai, do you think that the Steel Samurai (or any other character from that "franchise") will make an appearance in Dual Destines? :eh?: I don't recall the Steel Samurai being mention at all in AJ...
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Mimi Wright wrote:
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Especially since Edgeworth is the Evil Magistrate to Phoenix, who is the franchise's Steel Samurai.


Speaking of Steel Samurai, do you think that the Steel Samurai (or any other character from that "franchise") will make an appearance in Dual Destines? :eh?: I don't recall the Steel Samurai being mention at all in AJ...


With Edgeworth around, there's bound to be at least one reference in the game. Also, Phoenix probably never figured out how to change his ringtone. I can't see them being part of the case at all though. I hope we don't have another Butz as the Steel Samurai and Oldbag as the Pink Princess situation again, at least.
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Mimi Wright wrote:
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Especially since Edgeworth is the Evil Magistrate to Phoenix, who is the franchise's Steel Samurai.


Speaking of Steel Samurai, do you think that the Steel Samurai (or any other character from that "franchise") will make an appearance in Dual Destines? :eh?: I don't recall the Steel Samurai being mention at all in AJ...

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that a "certain someone" (Maya) sent Phoenix a stack of Steel Samurai episodes while he was in the hospital during the second case. I don't remember if they mentioned the Steel Samurai by name, but it was definitely implied at least.


Also, wasn't that Steel Samurai figure from previous games seen in Edgeworth's office during one of the recent trailers?
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
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Especially since Edgeworth is the Evil Magistrate to Phoenix, who is the franchise's Steel Samurai.


Speaking of Steel Samurai, do you think that the Steel Samurai (or any other character from that "franchise") will make an appearance in Dual Destines? :eh?: I don't recall the Steel Samurai being mention at all in AJ...

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that a "certain someone" (Maya) sent Phoenix a stack of Steel Samurai episodes while he was in the hospital during the second case. I don't remember if they mentioned the Steel Samurai by name, but it was definitely implied at least.


Also, wasn't that Steel Samurai figure from previous games seen in Edgeworth's office during one of the recent trailers?


There is that and also that and that statue has always been in his office the moment you first enter his office in the previous games
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Im really thinking there will be 6 cases here. As explained above we now have 5 match ups in court at least. We are however, missing the obligatory Ace Attorney flashback case. Every game since T&T has had one (two in T&Ts case,) I doubt they'll break the tradition. I can see them only mentioning Blackquills case, but somehow I feel that well actually be able to play it.
Whatever the case may be, Blackquill's sentencing case or not, its almost a given that there will be a flashback case here, if not I'll be very surprised.
Honestly this game cant come sooner, we need a "I only want to know one thing" thread soon so us non Japanese readers can get a glimpse of things to come.


Cases 2 and 3 are confirmed to be flashbacks prior to Case 1... unless if you're referring to flashbacks from years ago or something.


Yeah I'm referring to flashbacks like 3-1, 3-4, AAI-4, etc. I just can't believe they'll let this game go without one.
Also on a similar note, you think there will be some kind of overarching plot? I cant help but feel that it will be similar to
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AAI-1 were we didnt know Portsman's motives, in 5-1 we may not know Ted Tonate's motive. Or we'll know his motive but not who sent him to do the deed, assuming there's someone else behind the curtain.

On another similar note, do you guys think there will be a "final boss" or sorts. Nearly every other game has had one, so I dont see them leaving it out of Duel Destinies.
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On another similar note, do you guys think there will be a "final boss" or sorts. Nearly every other game has had one, so I dont see them leaving it out of Duel Destinies.


I wouldn't really say any of the games had 'Final Bosses' at least none that I'd call that, even in a loose sense of the term. 1-4 may have had Karma, but we never heard about him before, so that doesn't quite count as a boss. Gant the same, although he felt like an attempt at making someone worse than Karma and kind of failed...
GS2 had no Final Boss as... Nah, I really wouldn't call that a Final Boss.
And Dahlia was such a disappointment as a simple villain, she'd definitely not qualify as a Final Boss. Unless you mean Godot, in which case... nah... And Kristoph was of the same caliber as Dahlia, so...

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On another similar note, do you guys think there will be a "final boss" or sorts. Nearly every other game has had one, so I dont see them leaving it out of Duel Destinies.



If we're talking about a culprit who is involved and is connected to many, if not all, of the events in the game, working in the shadows, AAI+GK2's final culprit would definitely match that. Especially GK2's... Seeing as the development staff for DD is the same, I'd think the culprit of the final case is the same way.
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On another similar note, do you guys think there will be a "final boss" or sorts. Nearly every other game has had one, so I dont see them leaving it out of Duel Destinies.


I wouldn't really say any of the games had 'Final Bosses' at least none that I'd call that, even in a loose sense of the term. 1-4 may have had Karma, but we never heard about him before, so that doesn't quite count as a boss. Gant the same, although he felt like an attempt at making someone worse than Karma and kind of failed...
GS2 had no Final Boss as... Nah, I really wouldn't call that a Final Boss.
And Dahlia was such a disappointment as a simple villain, she'd definitely not qualify as a Final Boss. Unless you mean Godot, in which case... nah... And Kristoph was of the same caliber as Dahlia, so...

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I think that's looking at it in a bit of an un-objective, "what qualifies as a boss on a thematic level" kind of thing, but I think what he meant was a boss in the most physical, gameplay-related, identification-as-a-boss-has-no-bearing-on-his/her-actual-role-in-the-story. In the same way that, say King Dodongo was the boss of the second temple in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

In that case, I'd say that every game features a "boss" character, or simply the big, final character you have to take down in each game:
GS1: Manfred Von Karma
RFTA: Damon Gant
GS2: The Nickel Samurai guy (don't remember his name)
GS3: Dahlia Hawthorne
GK1: The tree guy (Don't remember his name)
(Haven't played GK2 yet)
GS4: Kristoph Gavin

I think by the nature of the AA there will be a "boss" character; a character who is responsible for the murder of that case (and possibly more) and who is the last antagonist Phoenix faces in court. That's really the closest AA can get to a boss.

(It's interesting, too, that GS1 is the only game in which the "prosecutor of the week" is the villain; in all the rest of them the prosecution adds to the fight or was a protagonist in some other way. I think Edgeworth will return for the final case and fill that role once again.
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I think by the nature of the AA there will be a "boss" character; a character who is responsible for the murder of that case (and possibly more) and who is the last antagonist Phoenix faces in court. That's really the closest AA can get to a boss.

(It's interesting, too, that GS1 is the only game in which the "prosecutor of the week" is the villain; in all the rest of them the prosecution adds to the fight or was a protagonist in some other way. I think Edgeworth will return for the final case and fill that role once again.


What do you mean by "prosecutor of the week"? One that only appears in one case?

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Also, since I've been following Gyakuten Saiban 5 more closely, I've seen more of the Japanese reaction, and many of their initial reactions to seeing Fulbright for the first time is that he seems VERY suspicious. In fact some suspect this character is probably that "final" boss. Kinda weird, but some are thinking that. On an unrelated note, am I the only one who thinks his hairstyle is a bit similar to Yumihiko Ichiyanagi..?

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I think by the nature of the AA there will be a "boss" character; a character who is responsible for the murder of that case (and possibly more) and who is the last antagonist Phoenix faces in court. That's really the closest AA can get to a boss.

(It's interesting, too, that GS1 is the only game in which the "prosecutor of the week" is the villain; in all the rest of them the prosecution adds to the fight or was a protagonist in some other way. I think Edgeworth will return for the final case and fill that role once again.


What do you mean by "prosecutor of the week"? One that only appears in one case?


That's what I meant; I called it "Prosecutor of the week" because that's what it sometimes feels like, especially if you play the games one right after the other (the prosecutors just come and go seemingly pretty fast) A little like how shows like "The X-Files" had a "monster of the week" each installment had a new villain but they sometimes were really just part of the series'-wide villains' plan.
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SeanHK wrote:
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Also, since I've been following Gyakuten Saiban 5 more closely, I've seen more of the Japanese reaction, and many of their initial reactions to seeing Fulbright for the first time is that he seems VERY suspicious. In fact some suspect this character is probably that "final" boss. Kinda weird, but some are thinking that. On an unrelated note, am I the only one who thinks his hairstyle is a bit similar to Yumihiko Ichiyanagi..?

We've got people with the same suspicions on these forums too. I hope he's genuinely that hammy and not faking it. Same with Athena; who knows what's going on behind the scenes?

Say, doesn't that hairstyle have a specific name? I don't remember what, though.
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Also, since I've been following Gyakuten Saiban 5 more closely, I've seen more of the Japanese reaction, and many of their initial reactions to seeing Fulbright for the first time is that he seems VERY suspicious. In fact some suspect this character is probably that "final" boss. Kinda weird, but some are thinking that. On an unrelated note, am I the only one who thinks his hairstyle is a bit similar to Yumihiko Ichiyanagi..?

We've got people with the same suspicions on these forums too. I hope he's genuinely that hammy and not faking it. Same with Athena; who knows what's going on behind the scenes?

Say, doesn't that hairstyle have a specific name? I don't remember what, though.


I doubt either of them are bad guys, just based on the history of the series, I would be kind of impressed if the writers made Athena an antagonist although I don't know if I think it's a good idea.

As for Fulbright, my guess is they tried to make a new Gumshoe and just make him super eccentric.

The character who I think has the most to hide is Apollo. And I don't mean that as in he's a bad guy, but he's the only character who we don't know much about in terms of their current status, since most of his appearances in promos have been in the flashback cases. We know he gets a MGS4 Raiden-like "I'm a badass" makeover, and we know he has a disagreement with Phoenix, but how far does that go? One scene, or possibly multiple games? It could also be since I started on AJ and that he's my first lawyer, but I'm most interested in his development.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
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We've got people with the same suspicions on these forums too. I hope he's genuinely that hammy and not faking it. Same with Athena; who knows what's going on behind the scenes?

Say, doesn't that hairstyle have a specific name? I don't remember what, though.


I doubt either of them are bad guys, just based on the history of the series, I would be kind of impressed if the writers made Athena an antagonist although I don't know if I think it's a good idea.

As for Fulbright, my guess is they tried to make a new Gumshoe and just make him super eccentric.

The character who I think has the most to hide is Apollo. And I don't mean that as in he's a bad guy, but he's the only character who we don't know much about in terms of their current status, since most of his appearances in promos have been in the flashback cases. We know he gets a MGS4 Raiden-like "I'm a badass" makeover, and we know he has a disagreement with Phoenix, but how far does that go? One scene, or possibly multiple games? It could also be since I started on AJ and that he's my first lawyer, but I'm most interested in his development.


True Apollo is defiantly hiding something but I would really love it if those problems were to be presented and dealt within this game. But I REALLY want Athena to have a dark secret that is more or less left hanging at the end of the game. (I think it would be a great plot twist and it would make Athena a more interesting character)

Also everyone keeps referencing that "fight" between Apollo and Nick in the one trailer we have seen. But my experience with trailers have been that they are very misleading. Images and audio clips are cut and pasted from different points in the game together to create an idea that may not necessarily be true to the story. I think that the "fight" between Apollo and Phoenix is much more toned down than the trailer might have built it up to be. Or all the scenes are taken out of context the "fight" doesn't really exist. I will be interested to see what the "fight" we have seen really is.
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I think that the "fight" between Apollo and Phoenix is much more toned down than the trailer might have built it up to be. Or all the scenes are taken out of context the "fight" doesn't really exist.

I highly doubt that the team would build up so much hype over what turns out to be Apollo heading off for an errand... or an anime convention.

That said, I don't believe this fight would last beyond this game. It's one of those things that the dev team can hype for one game, but not another. Even by any chance that this game ends on a cliffhanger, it's unlikely that the resolution of this fight would be left hanging. It may not be soundly resolved, but at least a solution will be presented. And because Athena plays such an important role, she ought to be involved somehow. (But I can't see how she ties in with anything yet. Even her introduction was simply Apollo picking her up at some random village where another friend of Trucy's lives.)
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True Apollo is defiantly hiding something but I would really love it if those problems were to be presented and dealt within this game. But I REALLY want Athena to have a dark secret that is more or less left hanging at the end of the game. (I think it would be a great plot twist and it would make Athena a more interesting character)

Also everyone keeps referencing that "fight" between Apollo and Nick in the one trailer we have seen. But my experience with trailers have been that they are very misleading. Images and audio clips are cut and pasted from different points in the game together to create an idea that may not necessarily be true to the story. I think that the "fight" between Apollo and Phoenix is much more toned down than the trailer might have built it up to be. Or all the scenes are taken out of context the "fight" doesn't really exist. I will be interested to see what the "fight" we have seen really is.


By "dark secret" do you mean something that would show she's not such a nice person after all?

As for the confrontation, I just think that Apollo and Phoenix have some differences on how to pursue the truth/what the truth is. The two go their separate ways, make it seem like they've cut ties, but when they find their respective answers, they have both arrived at the same destination and end up working together. I wouldn't be surprised to see it be something a little bit cliche like that.
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I can't stop pressing the countdown voice on the official website ahah.

I've had Fullbright, Blackquill, Athena, Apollo, Phoenix and Edgeworth so far, not sure if there are others.
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By "dark secret" do you mean something that would show she's [Athena] not such a nice person after all?


That won't happen. Athena is being made a big star. The 'assistants' are never grey characters.
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I can't stop pressing the countdown voice on the official website ahah.

I've had Fullbright, Blackquill, Athena, Apollo, Phoenix and Edgeworth so far, not sure if there are others.


Whats the website? i wanna do that :hotti:
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By "dark secret" do you mean something that would show she's [Athena] not such a nice person after all?


That won't happen. Athena is being made a big star. The 'assistants' are never grey characters.

It could be an interesting twist, though. Considering we're getting a bunch of new stuff this time around, it's not totally out of the question.
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Im really thinking there will be 6 cases here.



Going back to this, a paragraph in the interview implied the game has 5 Cases. It's the 3rd last question. He doesn't say "It's 5 cases long" but the first thing he said was "Yes" to the interviewers question so I think it's pretty likely.
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By "dark secret" do you mean something that would show she's [Athena] not such a nice person after all?


That won't happen. Athena is being made a big star. The 'assistants' are never grey characters.


This is exactly why I want Athena to have some sort of dark side! I mean sure its prolly not going to happen but it doesn't change the fact that I really want it to happen.
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By "dark secret" do you mean something that would show she's [Athena] not such a nice person after all?


That won't happen. Athena is being made a big star. The 'assistants' are never grey characters.


This is exactly why I want Athena to have some sort of dark side! I mean sure its prolly not going to happen but it doesn't change the fact that I really want it to happen.


If she did have a darkside what would it even be?
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Mimi Wright wrote:
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That won't happen. Athena is being made a big star. The 'assistants' are never grey characters.


This is exactly why I want Athena to have some sort of dark side! I mean sure its prolly not going to happen but it doesn't change the fact that I really want it to happen.


This is why the developers need to be very careful though. Some people may feel quite betrayed and/or confused if Athena turns out to be an evil person after you play as her and see her inner-thoughts (where she is a kind individual). Capcom is also pushing this "hero" character a lot too which suggests otherwise... to me, anyways. I'm hoping Athena is a good girl! :-)
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That won't happen. Athena is being made a big star. The 'assistants' are never grey characters.


This is exactly why I want Athena to have some sort of dark side! I mean sure its prolly not going to happen but it doesn't change the fact that I really want it to happen.


This is why the developers need to be very careful though. Some people may feel quite betrayed and/or confused if Athena turns out to be an evil person after you play as her and see her inner-thoughts (where she is a kind individual). Capcom is also pushing this "hero" character a lot too which suggests otherwise... to me, anyways. I'm hoping Athena is a good girl! :-)


we just have to wait till either the JP release or the Western release
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This is exactly why I want Athena to have some sort of dark side! I mean sure its prolly not going to happen but it doesn't change the fact that I really want it to happen.


If she did have a darkside what would it even be?

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This is exactly why I want Athena to have some sort of dark side! I mean sure its prolly not going to happen but it doesn't change the fact that I really want it to happen.


If she did have a darkside what would it even be?

How's this?

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I hence dub this "Apollo's Greatest Pursuit"!

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Its not showing me anything it just says "Image"
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Inspector Cabanela wrote:

If she did have a darkside what would it even be?

How's this?

Spoiler:
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I hence dub this "Apollo's Greatest Pursuit"!

Credits to jun on Pixiv.


Its not showing me anything it just says "Image"

Funny, it works fine for me. Well, try this one then:

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Funny, it works fine for me. Well, try this one then:

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Got it and aww she looks cute xD
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I can't stop pressing the countdown voice on the official website ahah.

I've had Fullbright, Blackquill, Athena, Apollo, Phoenix and Edgeworth so far, not sure if there are others.


Whats the website? i wanna do that :hotti:


It's right on the main page of the official site. Press Ctrl + F5 to completely reload it, maybe you have still the old version in your cache.
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Inspector Cabanela wrote:
irishmarcoos wrote:
I can't stop pressing the countdown voice on the official website ahah.

I've had Fullbright, Blackquill, Athena, Apollo, Phoenix and Edgeworth so far, not sure if there are others.


Whats the website? i wanna do that :hotti:


It's right on the main page of the official site. Press Ctrl + F5 to completely reload it, maybe you have still the old version in your cache.


probably and i just googled it yesterday and found it thanks anyways though :minuki:
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Lusankya wrote:
Inspector Cabanela wrote:
irishmarcoos wrote:
I can't stop pressing the countdown voice on the official website ahah.

I've had Fullbright, Blackquill, Athena, Apollo, Phoenix and Edgeworth so far, not sure if there are others.


Whats the website? i wanna do that :hotti:


It's right on the main page of the official site. Press Ctrl + F5 to completely reload it, maybe you have still the old version in your cache.


It's on the front page and on the right-hand side.

Image

After clicking the play button, click this to go back and hear another voice. It's random, though, so you might get the same ones numerous times in a row.... Phoenix......
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It's on the front page and on the right-hand side.

Image

After clicking the play button, click this to go back and hear another voice. It's random, though, so you might get the same ones numerous times in a row.... Phoenix......


i managed to get everyone even fullbright and simon :yogi:
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It's on the front page and on the right-hand side.

Image

After clicking the play button, click this to go back and hear another voice. It's random, though, so you might get the same ones numerous times in a row.... Phoenix......


i managed to get everyone even fullbright and simon :yogi:


So here I've gotten Phoenix, Apollo, Athena, Fulbright, Blackquill, and Edgeworth. Have I missed anyone else? :yuusaku:
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BTW are the countdown voices saying something like, "Only 5 days left" or something like that?
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BTW are the countdown voices saying something like, "Only 5 days left" or something like that?


from what it sounded like i believe the say the number of days depending how much is left
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BTW are the countdown voices saying something like, "Only 5 days left" or something like that?


from what it sounded like i believe the say the number of days depending how much is left


so im guessing tomorrow they'll sound slightly different. ok.
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