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Alpha Attorney wrote:
Hey, any one know if this is going to be an eShop only thing like Duel Destiny's?
I keep hearing it will be but i cant find a confirmation of so.
I keep hearing it will be but i cant find a confirmation of so.
I have not heard a thing about that nor was the eShop even mentioned during the announcement . Unless the people saying this it is eShop only are people with insider knowledge it sounds like its pure speculation on their part.
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I'm pretty sure Sam Riegel will return but two things striked me as odd:
1. They used Ben Judd's Objection! and not Riegel's Dual Destinies Objection!
2. They used the Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1 logo and not the new one.
but I am so HYPED for this. Nearly back to back English - Ace Attorney titles!
1. They used Ben Judd's Objection! and not Riegel's Dual Destinies Objection!
2. They used the Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1 logo and not the new one.
but I am so HYPED for this. Nearly back to back English - Ace Attorney titles!
I believe Judd's objection is very commonly recognized plus it's supposed to be the younger Phoenix Wright from the first trilogy.
That said, Sam Riegel will most likely do it. I don't know who else or why they'd switch, but it remains to be seen if he tweaks his voice for this game.
I also believe that it will be Riegel but it would be interesting if it really is Judd doing the voice because both games have voiced cut scenes in which the Phoenix speaks in full sentences. In that case we directly compare which person is better for the role due to having an extensive enough voice samples. That being said I doubt that its Judd since Riegel is a much more experienced voice actor whereas Judd has so far only said a few words in the previous Ace Attorney games.
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Danchat wrote:
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When does this game take place? 
According to a demo that the website Siliconera played, it takes place after PW:T&T. Maya apparently breaks the fourth wall in the demo by saying that "they haven't seen each other since Trials and Tribulations." I would guess that it takes place around AAI and before Phoenix's disbarment. But others have said the demo can't be trusted....
No no, the demo is a demo, it was just referring to the fact we hadn't seen Phoenix and Maya together in court since T&T, i don't know how official this is, but general consensus is that it's between JFA and T&T, and Layton 2 and 3 ( D Box and U Future), and in sure it could be counted as canon.
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irishmarcoos wrote:
Danchat wrote:
Mint Pepper wrote:
When does this game take place?
According to a demo that the website Siliconera played, it takes place after PW:T&T. Maya apparently breaks the fourth wall in the demo by saying that "they haven't seen each other since Trials and Tribulations." I would guess that it takes place around AAI and before Phoenix's disbarment. But others have said the demo can't be trusted....
No no, the demo is a demo, it was just referring to the fact we hadn't seen Phoenix and Maya together in court since T&T, i don't know how official this is, but general consensus is that it's between JFA and T&T, and Layton 2 and 3 ( D Box and U Future), and in sure it could be counted as canon.
I think Maya says the Luke Atmey line at one point, though.
I think there were some other references that would place it post-T&T, but I could be wrong.
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Alpha Attorney wrote:
Hey, any one know if this is going to be an eShop only thing like Duel Destiny's?
I keep hearing it will be but i cant find a confirmation of so.
I keep hearing it will be but i cant find a confirmation of so.
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I have not heard a thing about that nor was the eShop even mentioned during the announcement . Unless the people saying this it is eShop only are people with insider knowledge it sounds like its pure speculation on their part.
Yeah your probably right. just that seeing a bunch of people on youtube saying it was eShop only got me a bit worried
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I can't believe that it'll almost have been four years since PL vs. AA's original announcement back at the 2010 Level 5 Vision Press Conference. I really have to get a 3DS soon to play this game.
Dude, it's not even three years. :p
But yeah, they really announced the game far in advance.
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Yeah your probably right. just that seeing a bunch of people on youtube saying it was eShop only got me a bit worried
Ahahahahaha. You should NEVER listen to people on the internet. In 99% of the cases it's best to just assume the opposite of whatever those idiots in the youtube comments section are saying.
First thing to learn when surfing the internet is how to detect the 1% of non-bullshit.
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Alpha Attorney wrote:
Alpha Attorney wrote:
Hey, any one know if this is going to be an eShop only thing like Duel Destiny's?
I keep hearing it will be but i cant find a confirmation of so.
I keep hearing it will be but i cant find a confirmation of so.
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I have not heard a thing about that nor was the eShop even mentioned during the announcement . Unless the people saying this it is eShop only are people with insider knowledge it sounds like its pure speculation on their part.
Yeah your probably right. just that seeing a bunch of people on youtube saying it was eShop only got me a bit worried
Youtube comments, especially on popular videos, are one of the worst places on the Internet to get information, so please keep that in mind in the future. People tend to state their thoughts and assumptions as fact over there, especially misinformed ones.
In this case, people are assuming that because AA5 is digital only, PL vs. AA will be digital only. However, Capcom isn't the publisher, and Level5 hasn't put a DS/3DS Layton game up digital only, nor any other popular title (Guild games don't count, since each one is small and independent). So there's no reason to believe Level5 will do that to a game that includes one of their popular franchises.
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Ahahahahaha. You should NEVER listen to people on the internet. In 99% of the cases it's best to just assume the opposite of whatever those idiots in the youtube comments section are saying.
First thing to learn when surfing the internet is how to detect the 1% of non-bullshit.
First thing to learn when surfing the internet is how to detect the 1% of non-bullshit.
Fortunately this forum has a high percentage of 1% people here.
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And about people thinking PLvPW is eShop only... There was something in either the trailer or the Ninty Direct video that makes it sound like it's eShop only, I think. I fell for it too until I saw something else saying it would be "Also available on the Nintendo eShop", implying it'd be physical, too. I don't know, really.
Hmm... Funny how they have the PLvPW trailer in the eShop before they have any mention of DD even though PLvPW comes out after DD. Granted, maybe it's because it was on Nintendo Direct, but still. Maybe this is a way to still use Layton to boost sales for DD even though the game's releases are reversed? If you really think about it... Correct me if I'm wrong, but only people who were actually LOOKING for AA news (or being redirected by people looking for AA news) would have noticed DD by now. Now, though, we've got a bigger franchise tooting its horn with the last game in its second trilogy and oh, by the way, it's got a crossover with this other series that hasn't been updated in six years. What? Oh, that's interesting. Maybe we should look at this series that's intruding on our popular, completed franchise and see what gave them the idea we'd care about it. Oh, hey, a new game is coming out for this crossed-over series! Let's go get this game and get familiar with the series before we get our crossover!
... Okay, that sounded a lot more positive in my head. But I was trying to say it leaves roughly the same effect as PLvPW being released first in that it allows DD to ride on PL's popularity.
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And about people thinking PLvPW is eShop only... There was something in either the trailer or the Ninty Direct video that makes it sound like it's eShop only, I think. I fell for it too until I saw something else saying it would be "Also available on the Nintendo eShop", implying it'd be physical, too. I don't know, really.
You must be mixing things up, because there's nothing indicating eShop for PL vs. AA at all in the Nintendo Direct announcement. The red bar that usually says such things didn't appear.
Not even PL6 said anything about eShop, and it had the red bar saying available in 2014.
Personally I can't see any reason to think PL vs. AA (and PL6 for that matter) won't come out in both retail and eShop, just like Miracle Mask.
EDIT: starts at 15:20 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONco32sHxo
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blahmoomoo wrote:
9mayasato9 wrote:
And about people thinking PLvPW is eShop only... There was something in either the trailer or the Ninty Direct video that makes it sound like it's eShop only, I think. I fell for it too until I saw something else saying it would be "Also available on the Nintendo eShop", implying it'd be physical, too. I don't know, really.
You must be mixing things up, because there's nothing indicating eShop for PL vs. AA at all in the Nintendo Direct announcement. The red bar that usually says such things didn't appear.
Not even PL6 said anything about eShop, and it had the red bar saying available in 2014.
Personally I can't see any reason to think PL vs. AA (and PL6 for that matter) won't come out in both retail and eShop, just like Miracle Mask.
EDIT: starts at 15:20 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONco32sHxo
She's probably not speaking of the US ND. On the European ND they told us the release date of PL6, but also were very clear that it will be released as retail and digital version.
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Lusankya wrote:
blahmoomoo wrote:
9mayasato9 wrote:
And about people thinking PLvPW is eShop only... There was something in either the trailer or the Ninty Direct video that makes it sound like it's eShop only, I think. I fell for it too until I saw something else saying it would be "Also available on the Nintendo eShop", implying it'd be physical, too. I don't know, really.
You must be mixing things up, because there's nothing indicating eShop for PL vs. AA at all in the Nintendo Direct announcement. The red bar that usually says such things didn't appear.
Not even PL6 said anything about eShop, and it had the red bar saying available in 2014.
Personally I can't see any reason to think PL vs. AA (and PL6 for that matter) won't come out in both retail and eShop, just like Miracle Mask.
EDIT: starts at 15:20 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONco32sHxo
She's probably not speaking of the US ND. On the European ND they told us the release date of PL6, but also were very clear that it will be released as retail and digital version.
Ah, you're right about PL6 being retail and eShop in EU, but still, nothing was said about PL vs. AA. I don't think the lack of information as bad news, it's just that they don't feel the need to announce how it's being distributed yet. I believe that's pretty common for games that don't have a solid or close release date.
Last three minutes (everybody should watch the transition from PL6 to PL vs. AA): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iSt8ftgJH8
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blahmoomoo wrote:
9mayasato9 wrote:
And about people thinking PLvPW is eShop only... There was something in either the trailer or the Ninty Direct video that makes it sound like it's eShop only, I think. I fell for it too until I saw something else saying it would be "Also available on the Nintendo eShop", implying it'd be physical, too. I don't know, really.
You must be mixing things up, because there's nothing indicating eShop for PL vs. AA at all in the Nintendo Direct announcement. The red bar that usually says such things didn't appear.
Not even PL6 said anything about eShop, and it had the red bar saying available in 2014.
Personally I can't see any reason to think PL vs. AA (and PL6 for that matter) won't come out in both retail and eShop, just like Miracle Mask.
EDIT: starts at 15:20 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONco32sHxo
I'm aware I'm mixing things up. That's why I said "I think" and "I don't know, really". I was just trying to show how others could have mixed up the information as well. I apologize for my poor choice in words.
And by the way, Mr. Shibata did say something about PL6 being available both in retail and on the eShop; that was how I got mixed up. It was here at about 26:25 on the first video (admittedly, yeah, it was the European version... I was too lazy to find the US version
). Since it's right before the PLvPW video, and I watched those few seconds over and over again just for the Objection (... hush xD ), I mistook it for part of the PLvAA announcement.
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I was so worried about the fate of this game after the mess with AAI2, but I'm glad to see we're getting an official release in English! And if Level-5 has the damn courtesy to offer physical release, as well, I will be a very happy man
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It was Level-5 who put the final say into localizing PLvAA for North America and Europe, right? Not Capcom?
I do hope Capcom give us an announcement regarding AA:DD soon to make up for the lack of advertising on the Nintendo Direct.
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AnsweringNOW wrote:
By the way, just to make sure...
It was Level-5 who put the final say into localizing PLvAA for North America and Europe, right? Not Capcom?
It was Level-5 who put the final say into localizing PLvAA for North America and Europe, right? Not Capcom?
Well, of course both companies had to approve a localization, but it seems that Level-5 is handling the actual localization. I don't think anybody outside of the two companies knows who had the final say (or if there was a final say at all; mutual agreement seems more likely), but it seems pretty clear that it's up to Level-5 now (and maybe a few Capcom developers to help modify the engine or something, depending on who did what in development).
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Mint Pepper wrote:
When does this game take place?
I think the most accurate answer to that would be that it doesn't. It's clearly not canon for the Layton series or the Ace Attorney series, more than anything it's really just a fan-pleaser. So Phoenix and Maya could be referencing anything that's happened in past AA games in this, but there'll never be any reference to this in future AA games.
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OMFG OMFG *tries not to squee too loudly because it's 4:00 a.m* OMFG! I just don't even know what to say right now can't even form coherent sentences right now lo. all i can say is... My body and my DS are ready! lol
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DeMatador wrote:
The game has been given a provisional PEGI 12 rating, and is expected to launch in EARLY 2014 in Europe!
So it's going to launch in Europe (way?) before USA? Or does this Nintendo Direct only announce EU stuff or something?
Either way, this is a great day for humanity
I don't see why this game is 'non-canon', Takumi is writing it so arguably it's more canon than GS5. What's vague is CONTINUITY, obviously it's one of those things where the iconic characters are put in another story where a vague sense of 'GS1-3 happened' is, um 'Broad Stokes, if you like. As for GS4 well Takumi probably just ignored it. (And no that doesn't mean it's a ret-con it just means he didn't think about it when writing this scenario) It's like those TV shows where episodes might actually contradict each other (but it's all still part of the same show and 'characters', put in a different scenario each week)
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No no, the demo is a demo, it was just referring to the fact we hadn't seen Phoenix and Maya together in court since T&T, i don't know how official this is, but general consensus is that it's between JFA and T&T, and Layton 2 and 3 ( D Box and U Future), and in sure it could be counted as canon.
Doesn't Maya say 'Zvarri'? It's an Easter Egg, but still, it does indicate it's 'after 3-2'.
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Mimi Wright wrote:
I am very confused as to why Europe will be getting it in "early 2014" and North America will just get it in 2014. Usually if a game has been confirmed to release in both regions the release date is only a week or at most a month apart from each other.
Level5 takes a long time to localize things, that's just their style. For instance, Azran Legacy will released is EU in November of 2013 and will be reased in the US in 2014 so that's at least a two month difference. While it usually takes an average of six months for games from Japan to be bought over here, Azran Legacy has a nine month difference from Japan to EU. So as I said, while most games the EU and US release dates are seperated from a week to a month, Level5 games take much longer. I suspect that PLvs.PW:AA will have the same difference in EU and US release dates as Azran Legacy.
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Mimi Wright wrote:
I am very confused as to why Europe will be getting it in "early 2014" and North America will just get it in 2014. Usually if a game has been confirmed to release in both regions the release date is only a week or at most a month apart from each other. I mean I'll be happy for Europe that they will finally get to enjoy this wonderful game sooner than the North America but why are they implying a huge gap between release dates
The final Prof. Layton game is coming out in EU November 8th, while it'll likely be January-April when NA gets it. I'm not sure why.
This logic leads to Europe receiving PL vs PW at an earlier time than NA. Who knows if it actually will, though.
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Baia_74 wrote:
Mimi Wright wrote:
I am very confused as to why Europe will be getting it in "early 2014" and North America will just get it in 2014. Usually if a game has been confirmed to release in both regions the release date is only a week or at most a month apart from each other.
Level5 takes a long time to localize things, that's just their style. For instance, Azran Legacy will released is EU in November of 2013 and will be reased in the US in 2014 so that's at least a two month difference. While it usually takes an average of six months for games from Japan to be bought over here, Azran Legacy has a nine month difference from Japan to EU. So as I said, while most games the EU and US release dates are seperated from a week to a month, Level5 games take much longer. I suspect that PLvs.PW:AA will have the same difference in EU and US release dates as Azran Legacy.
Except if you look at the releases of past Layton games, the US and EU releases were near-simultaneous, not delayed by several months on either side. PL6 is the first game with a significant gap between EU and US releases, which is very odd.
The amount of time between JP and the first other region release is typical though.
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Baia_74 wrote:
Mimi Wright wrote:
I am very confused as to why Europe will be getting it in "early 2014" and North America will just get it in 2014. Usually if a game has been confirmed to release in both regions the release date is only a week or at most a month apart from each other.
Level5 takes a long time to localize things, that's just their style. For instance, Azran Legacy will released is EU in November of 2013 and will be reased in the US in 2014 so that's at least a two month difference. While it usually takes an average of six months for games from Japan to be bought over here, Azran Legacy has a nine month difference from Japan to EU. So as I said, while most games the EU and US release dates are seperated from a week to a month, Level5 games take much longer. I suspect that PLvs.PW:AA will have the same difference in EU and US release dates as Azran Legacy.
But Nintendo's the one who's been publishing/localizing the games. (Except Mystery Room, but that doesn't count since it's not on a Nintendo system in the first place.)
When Sven said that Level-5 was handling the localization he probably meant that the Japanese division had final say over whether it would be localized, not that Level-5 International America would be localizing it themselves.
Semi-related: Mahonē being localized into Aria explains why Aria/Aryan from AL was changed to Aurora. I'm kind of disappointed at the lack of puns in the English names, though. It's like the opposite of Mystery Room.
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You know, they should update Phoenix's model with the younger one from DD. It looks kinda awkward.
Considering this is level 5's game, and they aren't using the MT Framework Mobile engine, it wouldn't work very well. Also, the model actually suits the game very well I'll have you know!
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... the MT Framework Mobile engine ...
This is the first time I hear of such a thing. You got any details?
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... the MT Framework Mobile engine ...
This is the first time I hear of such a thing. You got any details?
MT Framework is one of Capcom's seventh-gen game engines. The mobile version is used on some of their 3ds games (including Resident Evil Revelations).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT_Framework
However, this is the first I've heard that Dual Destinies is using it. It's not on the Wikipedia list and there doesn't seem to be any articles talking about it.
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http://youtu.be/dONco32sHxo?t=15m20s
Is that the part you guys were talking about earlier?
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builderkid107 wrote:
Since there is so much text, I decided to to my own investigation.
http://youtu.be/dONco32sHxo?t=15m20s
Is that the part you guys were talking about earlier?
http://youtu.be/dONco32sHxo?t=15m20s
Is that the part you guys were talking about earlier?
I believe they are talking about the European version, since there's a slight difference, altough in the end, is mostly the same.
I think this would be more accurately what they are talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... JH8&t=1599
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Tiagofvarela wrote:
builderkid107 wrote:
Since there is so much text, I decided to to my own investigation.
http://youtu.be/dONco32sHxo?t=15m20s
Is that the part you guys were talking about earlier?
http://youtu.be/dONco32sHxo?t=15m20s
Is that the part you guys were talking about earlier?
I believe they are talking about the European version, since there's a slight difference, altough in the end, is mostly the same.
I think this would be more accurately what they are talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... JH8&t=1599
Oh
Sill Americans eheh.
(I'm American...)
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ADA McCoy wrote:
henke37 wrote:
irishmarcoos wrote:
... the MT Framework Mobile engine ...
This is the first time I hear of such a thing. You got any details?
MT Framework is one of Capcom's seventh-gen game engines. The mobile version is used on some of their 3ds games (including Resident Evil Revelations).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT_Framework
However, this is the first I've heard that Dual Destinies is using it. It's not on the Wikipedia list and there doesn't seem to be any articles talking about it.
irishmarcoos is saying that PL vs. AA isn't using the MT Framework, not that DD is using it. I'm guessing that's more of an assumption than a fact, but if Level-5 did the programming and/or development, it would be highly likely that they used their own engine (probably whatever Miracle Mask uses).
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blahmoomoo wrote:
irishmarcoos is saying that PL vs. AA isn't using the MT Framework, not that DD is using it. I'm guessing that's more of an assumption than a fact, but if Level-5 did the programming and/or development, it would be highly likely that they used their own engine (probably whatever Miracle Mask uses).
But he mentioned it as a reason why the DD Phoenix model couldn't be used in PLvsAA. Like you said, it's really unlikely PLvsAA uses it, so if DD doesn't use it either than why was it brought up at all? It wouldn't be relevant as a reason why it couldn't be ported if both games aren't using it.
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