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Oh god. New semester starts tomorrow. Fuuuuuuuuuucccckkkk. Where'd my summer go?!


Damn that sucks. My semester starts soon as well on August 28. Oddly I'm looking forward to it :grossburg:


My semester started on August 1st, stop whining you guys


Oh snap. We have ourselves a badass up in here. :snap:
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Oh god. New semester starts tomorrow. Fuuuuuuuuuucccckkkk. Where'd my summer go?!


At least you guys have your positions in the job you're training for/college. :sadshoe:
School in Germany starts the middle of September and I'm really close to the deadline...

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Thankfully, I graduated last year, so I never have to worry about school again! :karma:
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Oh god. New semester starts tomorrow. Fuuuuuuuuuucccckkkk. Where'd my summer go?!


At least you guys have your positions in the job you're training for/college. :sadshoe:
School in Germany starts the middle of September and I'm really close to the deadline...

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Didn't know you were from Germany. I always wanted to go there.
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Thankfully, I graduated last year, so I never have to worry about school again! :karma:


Nyeh, I graduated six years ago~ :redd:

I only want to/have to go back to school to study how to be a legal assistant.

*goes back to read all the entries about Persona 3 on TV Tropes*
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Damn that sucks. My semester starts soon as well on August 28. Oddly I'm looking forward to it :grossburg:


My semester started on August 1st, stop whining you guys


Oh snap. We have ourselves a badass up in here. :snap:


Exactly the opposite, mate.
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Sakamoto Maaya voices Aigis in Persona 3!? :ack:

I... I... I need to get my hands on an undubbed or Japanese version of the game! :zenitora:

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In video games, there's a lot of crazy stuff involving voice actors. For example, the same guy that voiced Duke Dukem also voiced Big The Cat from Sonic, the guy who voiced Viewtiful Joe also voices the goldfish from american dad, and Paarthurnax(Or however you spell it) from Skyrim is voiced by the same guy that voices Mario.
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And here we go again with another Brazilian Bullshit News, bringing this country's finest to your house!

So, a player from the soccer team Corinthians (which by a sadic twist of fate happens to be the one I support) posted a picture on his Instagram account kissing (well, not kissing per se, more like 'mouth-pecking') a friend of his. Both men are straight as far as I know and the pic was nothing more than a way for them to show they are against homophobia - he even said so in the caption.

But of course, we brazilians, being part of a third-world society (and always cluelessy wondering why) in general overreacted to it, especially because many of us are sexists. First, people assumed they were actually making out and were a couple (which is inaccurate, and even if it were to be true, it's none of their business); then, a group of 10 people, all members of one of Corinthians' biggest fan association, went to today's training session with two banners hurling insults at said player, basically ordering him out.

One of the members proceeded to angrily scream into the reporter's mic that he "is not homophobic but if he wants to do 'this kind of thing' he should join another club" (at this point Nick screams OBJECTION! and unveils the obvious contradiction)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Said player was accused, in February 2012, of being involved in a small vehicle smuggling ring. No fan association came forth at that time.
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In video games, there's a lot of crazy stuff involving voice actors. For example, the same guy that voiced Duke Dukem also voiced Big The Cat from Sonic, the guy who voiced Viewtiful Joe also voices the goldfish from american dad, and Paarthurnax(Or however you spell it) from Skyrim is voiced by the same guy that voices Mario.


Oh wow. I didn't know the fish from American dad did the same voice for Joe. 0.0
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And here we go again with another Brazilian Bullshit News, bringing this country's finest to your house!

So, a player from the soccer team Corinthians (which by a sadic twist of fate happens to be the one I support) posted a picture on his Instagram account kissing (well, not kissing per se, more like 'mouth-pecking') a friend of his. Both men are straight as far as I know and the pic was nothing more than a way for them to show they are against homophobia - he even said so in the caption.

But of course, we brazilians, being part of a third-world society (and always cluelessy wondering why) in general overreacted to it, especially because many of us are sexists. First, people assumed they were actually making out and were a couple (which is inaccurate, and even if it were to be true, it's none of their business); then, a group of 10 people, all members of one of Corinthians' biggest fan association, went to today's training session with two banners hurling insults at said player, basically ordering him out.

One of the members proceeded to angrily scream into the reporter's mic that he "is not homophobic but if he wants to do 'this kind of thing' he should join another club" (at this point Nick screams OBJECTION! and unveils the obvious contradiction)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Said player was accused, in February 2012, of being involved in a small vehicle smuggling ring. No fan association came forth at that time.


Speaking of Brazilians, there is this website I go to which shows different murders around the world and I always see a lot of them coming from Brazil.
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And here we go again with another Brazilian Bullshit News, bringing this country's finest to your house!

So, a player from the soccer team Corinthians (which by a sadic twist of fate happens to be the one I support) posted a picture on his Instagram account kissing (well, not kissing per se, more like 'mouth-pecking') a friend of his. Both men are straight as far as I know and the pic was nothing more than a way for them to show they are against homophobia - he even said so in the caption.

But of course, we brazilians, being part of a third-world society (and always cluelessy wondering why) in general overreacted to it, especially because many of us are sexists. First, people assumed they were actually making out and were a couple (which is inaccurate, and even if it were to be true, it's none of their business); then, a group of 10 people, all members of one of Corinthians' biggest fan association, went to today's training session with two banners hurling insults at said player, basically ordering him out.

One of the members proceeded to angrily scream into the reporter's mic that he "is not homophobic but if he wants to do 'this kind of thing' he should join another club" (at this point Nick screams OBJECTION! and unveils the obvious contradiction)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Said player was accused, in February 2012, of being involved in a small vehicle smuggling ring. No fan association came forth at that time.


Speaking of Brazilians, there is this website I go to which shows different murders around the world and I always see a lot of them coming from Brazil.


No fucking wonder, we're one of the worst countries in the world in the educational area, this kind of thing reflects on society as a whole
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VCM wrote:
And here we go again with another Brazilian Bullshit News, bringing this country's finest to your house!

So, a player from the soccer team Corinthians (which by a sadic twist of fate happens to be the one I support) posted a picture on his Instagram account kissing (well, not kissing per se, more like 'mouth-pecking') a friend of his. Both men are straight as far as I know and the pic was nothing more than a way for them to show they are against homophobia - he even said so in the caption.

But of course, we brazilians, being part of a third-world society (and always cluelessy wondering why) in general overreacted to it, especially because many of us are sexists. First, people assumed they were actually making out and were a couple (which is inaccurate, and even if it were to be true, it's none of their business); then, a group of 10 people, all members of one of Corinthians' biggest fan association, went to today's training session with two banners hurling insults at said player, basically ordering him out.

One of the members proceeded to angrily scream into the reporter's mic that he "is not homophobic but if he wants to do 'this kind of thing' he should join another club" (at this point Nick screams OBJECTION! and unveils the obvious contradiction)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Said player was accused, in February 2012, of being involved in a small vehicle smuggling ring. No fan association came forth at that time.


Speaking of Brazilians, there is this website I go to which shows different murders around the world and I always see a lot of them coming from Brazil.


No fucking wonder, we're one of the worst countries in the world in the educational area, this kind of thing reflects on society as a whole


I can send you the link of you want. It's has a lot of pages if you search Brazil.
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PM it to me please, I'm kinda curious now
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PM it to me please, I'm kinda curious now


Alright. Ill Pm it to you right now.
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Still haven't been paid, although I was told it'd be there by the 20th.
And I still don't have my report. Must call the law firm and demand to know where both are!
*shake shake shake* Why do I have such trouble talking on the phone...!?

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VCM wrote:
And here we go again with another Brazilian Bullshit News, bringing this country's finest to your house!

So, a player from the soccer team Corinthians (which by a sadic twist of fate happens to be the one I support) posted a picture on his Instagram account kissing (well, not kissing per se, more like 'mouth-pecking') a friend of his. Both men are straight as far as I know and the pic was nothing more than a way for them to show they are against homophobia - he even said so in the caption.

But of course, we brazilians, being part of a third-world society (and always cluelessy wondering why) in general overreacted to it, especially because many of us are sexists. First, people assumed they were actually making out and were a couple (which is inaccurate, and even if it were to be true, it's none of their business); then, a group of 10 people, all members of one of Corinthians' biggest fan association, went to today's training session with two banners hurling insults at said player, basically ordering him out.

One of the members proceeded to angrily scream into the reporter's mic that he "is not homophobic but if he wants to do 'this kind of thing' he should join another club" (at this point Nick screams OBJECTION! and unveils the obvious contradiction)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Said player was accused, in February 2012, of being involved in a small vehicle smuggling ring. No fan association came forth at that time.


Geez man you're more convincing me Brazil is a nuts place that I should never go to.
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There are crazy people no matter where you go. A year or so ago, here in Canada, there was huge riot after a Hockey game. People were flipping cars, smashing property, and generally causing chaos. The craziest part is, unlike similar riots, their team was the one that WON! They were rioting not to vent after a loss, but rather to celebrate after a victory!
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I'm just showing that Brazil ain't the tropical paradise that the media says it is... you see good stuff about Brazil every day, beaches, soccer, women, whatever, so why not see a little bit of bullshit too? We're as much of a country as any other, both in good and bad ways... I criticize Brazil because I love it <3

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News in Brazil is more interesting than news in the US. :/
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Still haven't been paid, although I was told it'd be there by the 20th.
And I still don't have my report. Must call the law firm and demand to know where both are!
*shake shake shake* Why do I have such trouble talking on the phone...!?

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You know Prosec...Lawyers shouldn't be trusted xD
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Still haven't been paid, although I was told it'd be there by the 20th.
And I still don't have my report. Must call the law firm and demand to know where both are!
*shake shake shake* Why do I have such trouble talking on the phone...!?

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You know Prosec...Lawyers shouldn't be trusted xD


American ones probably not, the way they are repeatedly depicted.
But German ones don't seem that bad.
And I did get paid, I mentioned in the vent station how I feel cheated that it wasn't a lot...
(Even with those 100€, I'm still practically another 100 short of buying a fucking used Vita AND P4 Golden.... WHY ARE VITAS SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE!?)

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American ones probably not, the way they are repeatedly depicted.
But German ones don't seem that bad.
And I did get paid, I mentioned in the vent station how I feel cheated that it wasn't a lot...
(Even with those 100€, I'm still practically another 100 short of buying a fucking used Vita AND P4 Golden.... WHY ARE VITAS SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE!?)

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You sure? The Von Karmas were German... :uramidn:

In all seriousness though, I'm sorry that you've been underpaid. I'm not sure what to tell you because the labor laws are probably different in Germany, but have you at least tried talking to whoever is in charge? Like the head of the firm? And are you full-time or part-time? Are you living on your own or with your parents?

BTW, don't buy a Vita. There's less games for that than the Wii U. If you want to play Persona 4, play it on PS2. It isn't worth it to just get the system for a few games. The Vita is probably the greatest handheld system that no one played. The hardware is amazing, but developers simply don't know how to use it that well. The majority of good games on the system are just ports of bigger console games. The Vita did get a price drop though. In America its $199, but in Europe it's €199. And of course, you guys get screwed over with the exchange. $199 equals about €150! Sony's doing the same thing with the PS4 in another excuse to just make more money. Putting them at the "same" number, isn't the same as pricing them in accordance to the exchange rate.
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Yeah, buying a system for just a few games is pretty stupid. A few years ago, I wanted to get a PSP just for Mega Man Powered Up, but my mom wouldn't get me a system just for one game. Maybe when they release some more worthwhile games, it would be more worth it. Besides, I'm not the richest person in the world either; My family makes about 1000 dollars a month. Not very much.
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I am. And do you know why I am so set on getting Golden? Not really because of the new content, I mean costumes are a nice thing, but I don't care much for this addition of growing your own vegetables, catching bugs or more fish and other stuff.
No, mostly because my PS2 disc keeps freaking stopping! I'm currently walking through Yukiko's castle over and over on my NG+ and am trying to get that stupid Death to appear, so I can fight him, and I had to restart the disc twice because it randomly stopped after about 20 minutes.
And I'm used to buying something for "just one game". That's why I got a used Wii to begin with, I needed one for Skyward Sword.

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PS: von Karma were only labelled as German in the English version. In the Japanese version, they were Japanese, but with Franziska being raised and educated in America. So nyeh.
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Um, why can't you just buy a replacement over the internet? Unless it has to do with you ps2, and not your game disc directly.
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Um, why can't you just buy a replacement over the internet? Unless it has to do with you ps2, and not your game disc directly.


It's a burned ISO, so no I can't just get a replacement. The disc I'm using right now is actually the second time I burnt the ISO onto a disc. Why did I pick the ISO instead of buying the game? Because of the English Dub. Contains several voice actors I don't want to hear in my games anymore. Sick and tired of hearing them.

Oooh, Johnny Young Bosch, it's funny I went into anime after I played a Power Ranger for so long! Troy Baker can't seem to change his voice, it's on constant, "DEEP ANGRY MAN VOICE" and Yuri Lowenthal fucked up the ambiguous ending of Tales of the Abyss, thank you very much.
Laura Bailey who voices Rise doesn't even try to use a new voice. Every time I hear Laura Bailey say anything as Rise, I just want to yell, "Oh hi, Sera!" I also say something that is a spoiler, so I'm not listing it.

Plus, the PS2 I bought was already used by the time I got it. No idea how old it is, I also have times where other discs stop, so I don't think it's just my P4 version.

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It's a burned ISO, so no I can't just get a replacement. The disc I'm using right now is actually the second time I burnt the ISO onto a disc. Why did I pick the ISO instead of buying the game? Because of the English Dub. Contains several voice actors I don't want to hear in my games anymore. Sick and tired of hearing them.

Oooh, Johnny Young Bosch, it's funny I went into anime after I played a Power Ranger for so long! Troy Baker can't seem to change his voice, it's on constant, "DEEP ANGRY MAN VOICE" and Yuri Lowenthal fucked up the ambiguous ending of Tales of the Abyss, thank you very much.
Laura Bailey who voices Rise doesn't even try to use a new voice. Every time I hear Laura Bailey say anything as Rise, I just want to yell, "Oh hi, Sera!" I also say something that is a spoiler, so I'm not listing it.

Plus, the PS2 I bought was already used by the time I got it. No idea how old it is, I also have times where other discs stop, so I don't think it's just my P4 version.

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So your PS2 is modded then? Is there a hack for Persona to have the Japanese voices and the English script?
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I was thinking about it, but I'm gonna pass on it cause I already got most of those games on my Xbox.
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So your PS2 is modded then? Is there a hack for Persona to have the Japanese voices and the English script?


"Modded" it isn't really. Modded would mean that I actually put in a modchip that bypasses the region codes. No, I went the nicer route to my PS2 and followed a video tutorial to install a Flip Top myself and am using Swap Magic. Much kinder to the PS2 and also easier, I feel. A bit tedious to start Swap Magic every time I want to play a PS2 game, majorty of my PS2 games are imported ones, but it works.

No, there is no such hack, sadly. Only way to do that is to have the... um... I don't know the details, but basically you strip the game down into its part in the computer and swap the English sound files with the Japanese ones. People do that to several JRPGs and call them "Undubbed" and you grab the undubbed ISO.

Which just proves that Japanese voices are still preferred by people. Thankfully, some games have chosen to give us Dual Audio these days, where we can choose. From what my husband told me, Persona 4 Arena has Dual Audio and Tales of Symphonia Unisonant Pack will have Dual Audio, too.
Still not getting that game... they gave Kratos suspenders! Don't care if that's Ludger's outfit, Kratos should not wear suspenders, he's too sexy for them!

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When you mentioned Kratos, I got confused for a second until I remembered that there's also a character in Tales Of Symphonia named that. Whenever I hear that name, I always think of God Of War, and I haven't even played that game!

Anyways, I don't mind using Japanese voices, but can the game at least give us a choice whether to use the japanese or english voices? When I bought project X zone, I was disapointed to find out that the voice acting was still in Japanese, and there was no option to have it dubbed. I find that simply lazy. Like in Viewtiful Joe, the main character's story is dubbed, but the extra characters you unlock have their cutscenes still in Japanese but with subtitles. LAAAAAAAZY.
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When you mentioned Kratos, I got confused for a second until I remembered that there's also a character in Tales Of Symphonia named that. Whenever I hear that name, I always think of God Of War, and I haven't even played that game!

Anyways, I don't mind using Japanese voices, but can the game at least give us a choice whether to use the japanese or english voices? When I bought project X zone, I was disapointed to find out that the voice acting was still in Japanese, and there was no option to have it dubbed. I find that simply lazy. Like in Viewtiful Joe, the main character's story is dubbed, but the extra characters you unlock have their cutscenes still in Japanese but with subtitles. LAAAAAAAZY.


I wouldn't say lazy, but rather more frugal. You have to understand that PxZ is an extremely niche title which had a very small chance breaking out of Japan. Is Namco really going to risk spending more money by rounding up VAs to play their respective characters? That costs money. What about getting voices for characters that haven't been released outside of Japan such as God Eater or Valkyrie Chronicles 3? That'd cost quite a bit too. Namco's a business, and sometimes you've got to understand why some companies make the decisions the make.

Same thing can be said about Dual Destinies being digital only.
Why put money into making carts, box art, minimal manuals, and advertising and risk having a surplus stock that ends up in the bargain bin later on?
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I wouldn't say lazy, but rather more frugal. You have to understand that PxZ is an extremely niche title which had a very small chance breaking out of Japan. Is Namco really going to risk spending more money by rounding up VAs to play their respective characters? That costs money. What about getting voices for characters that haven't been released outside of Japan such as God Eater or Valkyrie Chronicles 3? That'd cost quite a bit too. Namco's a business, and sometimes you've got to understand why some companies make the decisions the make.

Same thing can be said about Dual Destinies being digital only.
Why put money into making carts, box art, minimal manuals, and advertising and risk having a surplus stock that ends up in the bargain bin later on?
This is just my amateur businessman talking.


I think that you're absolutely right on this. I also think that we've been a bit spoiled when it comes to expecting English dubs for every single Japanese game. Hell, there are games like 999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors which I would NEVER have expected to be localized either. It's a Mature rated game, on the DS which is mostly played by children, and is also a visual novel; one of the least successful genres in the West. But some genius at Chunsoft did think that it would be successful, so they released it. We should probably be grateful for what we have to begin with. It's a miracle that we even got Gyakuten Saiban out of Japan in the first place.
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As mentioned, majority of games do not give us an option of which language voices we want to hear. Personally, I would agree with the idea that it might cost a lot to dub people, but also give option to hear the original voices, as it might feel like money down the drain but I guess it also has to do with space on the disc or whatever.

For games like Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, it didn't cost a lot to get dubbers. There weren't all that many things to be said there. And aside from DoA 2 Hardcore for the PS2, the DoA games were always brought out with Japanese voices only. Until DoA 5 which gave us an option for Japanese or English voices, thank you very much.

I do think Namco has mentioned that in the Unisonant Pack, the scenes that were not voiced in the original version will not be voiced in the new version. Whether this applied to the Japanese or maybe English version I don't know, but it makes sense. Aside from two characters - Heather Hogan and Cam Clarke - they didn't get any of the old voices for the Symphonia cast for Knight of Ratatosk. And Cam Clarke does not count, considering Kratos had 1 scene has a voice-narrator and another that was hit and miss and only 1 minute long! (How dare they keep the best character out of that terrible game-well, I guess I should be a bit thankful for that...)

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The whole money issue doesn't apply to Viewtiful Joe; Joe's story is already dubbed, yet the unlockable character's stories aren't. If they already got the voice actors to do one story, why not dub the other ones?
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The whole money issue doesn't apply to Viewtiful Joe; Joe's story is already dubbed, yet the unlockable character's stories aren't. If they already got the voice actors to do one story, why not dub the other ones?


I made no mention of Viewtiful Joe because I can't rationalize that decision to be honest. PxZ makes more sense which is what I was getting at.
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dimentiorules wrote:
The whole money issue doesn't apply to Viewtiful Joe; Joe's story is already dubbed, yet the unlockable character's stories aren't. If they already got the voice actors to do one story, why not dub the other ones?


...because localizers are asses.
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I got my GCSE results today. I got what I though I would get, apart from Music, which I failed. :/ Other than that though my grades are fine.


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