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Sebastian Stark wrote:
Please research their reasonings before calling them out - disregarding what they're after is often what can spark more aggressive reactions...make sure you know what their arguments ARE before engaging in starting to debate their reasons!
1: the 3DS system of download isn't account based, and this is an issue for many.
2: A lot of folks aren't fond of a digital download only game/focused industry [delete as appropriate]
3: they simply cannot download the title in the way others can.
There's more than this, but I'm making sure you're aware ahead of time about the potential discussion ahead.
1: the 3DS system of download isn't account based, and this is an issue for many.
2: A lot of folks aren't fond of a digital download only game/focused industry [delete as appropriate]
3: they simply cannot download the title in the way others can.
There's more than this, but I'm making sure you're aware ahead of time about the potential discussion ahead.
I do believe people on this thread are the one who simply said that they don't want to buy the game because it's digital-only. The never mentioned any of the things that you listed. (If they did, then I perfectly understand.)
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Granted, I found a solution in the end and will (be able to) buy it now, but it still took me a long time to 1)figure out how to purchase it in the first place (not everyone has a credit card, not every store sells eshop cards, not everyone has wireless internet or is able to get it somewhere - it's not as common in public places everywhere as it may be in the US, not everyone might be wanting to play it in English or buy a whole new 3DS just so they can play the Japanese version, not all countries will have it available in either language), then to decide if I should get a normal 3DS or save up longer and get a Japanese one (I normally prefer original material and am sad that the Japanese voices won't be available for me, but I simply can't read enough Kanji to even look up and translate game texts while playing), and then, finally, to decide whether I want to buy this game or not.
I decided to do so, yes, but I decided to do so knowing that I will at some point regret this decision (I could have used the money better and as much as I enjoy the games, they always upset me in many different ways, PLUS I have reasons to prefer solid games over a download). There was a good chance that I might have decided against buying it. If that means that I'm not a real fan, then so be it. But honestly, if I had to choose between the right to decide for myself what to spend my own money on and what to like or dislike, and the right to be called a fan, I'd happily choose the first.
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None of them seem nearly as outspoken this time compared to how many people have been raging about it.
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However, a LOT of them (On Capcom-Unity) are raging because it is digital. They're not only complaining about it, but they sent Capcom death threats. (From what I've seen.) Seriously, what's that all aboot?
What are the disadvantages of a digital release anyway?
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Some of the people who are complaining about the digital release basically were ripped off. Some people lack a SD card, other people don't have a WEP key, etc.
However, a LOT of them (On Capcom-Unity) are raging because it is digital. They're not only complaining about it, but they sent Capcom death threats. (From what I've seen.) Seriously, what's that all aboot?
What are the disadvantages of a digital release anyway?
However, a LOT of them (On Capcom-Unity) are raging because it is digital. They're not only complaining about it, but they sent Capcom death threats. (From what I've seen.) Seriously, what's that all aboot?
What are the disadvantages of a digital release anyway?
If you lose the console you have to go through a process to retrieve the game? Some people like building a collection of physical games for their shelves? You can't make a Jenga tower out of cartridges for digital releases? I don't know there's not really anything that substantial except for you can't loan the game to someone without loaning the entire console.
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Most of the disadvantages would be void if Nintendo just introduced an account system. Well at least they actually want to do so, so we just have to wait.
They have Club Nintendo...which works exactly how you'd hope an account system would for your fears. You register your games with your club nintendo account and they keep a track of what you bought that way.
It's been said several times already if you lose your 3DS they can replace your digital games that way.
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But that's when there's actually a choice. If the market isn't big enough for a physical copy, well, than a digital copy is better than nothing.
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Lusankya wrote:
Most of the disadvantages would be void if Nintendo just introduced an account system. Well at least they actually want to do so, so we just have to wait.
They have Club Nintendo...which works exactly how you'd hope an account system would for your fears. You register your games with your club nintendo account and they keep a track of what you bought that way.
It's been said several times already if you lose your 3DS they can replace your digital games that way.
Yeah, but it's extremly inconvenient.
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I don't have a 3DS, but Nintendo should really be like Apple and allow the same games on multiple devices. Why should a family have to buy the same game more than once!?
Just buy a 2DS. I care less whether the game is in 3D or 2D, so just don't worry about it. Even if you hate the 2DS. It'll still play the same games, too.
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Just buy a 2DS. I care less whether the game is in 3D or 2D, so just don't worry about it. Even if you hate the 2DS. It'll still play the same games, too.
I don't like the handheld design of the 2DS. I prefer my DS to clamshell, you know THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE!!! I also prefer the larger screens for games like MGS3 and Virtue's Last Reward. It's only $200. I'll have enough money from my relatives to get one this holiday season. Hopefully.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
I don't have a 3DS, but Nintendo should really be like Apple and allow the same games on multiple devices. Why should a family have to buy the same game more than once!?
Just buy a 2DS. I care less whether the game is in 3D or 2D, so just don't worry about it. Even if you hate the 2DS. It'll still play the same games, too.
You see, that's the thing. People tend to complain about the 2DS being... well, that. (From what I've heard, holding the 2DS seems to be comfortable. *noinnuendoplease*
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You see, that's the thing. People tend to complain about the 2DS being... well, that. (From what I've heard, holding the 2DS seems to be comfortable. *noinnuendoplease*
I really just prefer the clamshell design. But if I have to get a 2DS, I will. I'm just hoping to have enough money for a 3DS XL.
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Lusankya wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
Most of the disadvantages would be void if Nintendo just introduced an account system. Well at least they actually want to do so, so we just have to wait.
They have Club Nintendo...which works exactly how you'd hope an account system would for your fears. You register your games with your club nintendo account and they keep a track of what you bought that way.
It's been said several times already if you lose your 3DS they can replace your digital games that way.
Yeah, but it's extremly inconvenient.
How so? What's the process?
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But, for the record, a couple of months ago I asked a Nintendo customer service representative about this. They have a list of everything you download on your system whether you are a member of Club Nintendo or not (at least they were mentioning things I downloaded before I joined Club Nintendo; things that didn't show up on my Club Nintendo account) because every 3ds system has its own eShop account that is recorded. So Nintendo will know that the 3DS with your serial number downloaded Dual Destinies, so if your console breaks beyond the ability to do a system transfer if you contact them they will be able to help you.
So, yeah, it's much more complicated than getting all your steam games on a new computer, but it's still not impossible.
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I know this is just me jumping to conclusions but... Is the lack of retail because Capcom are broke? I mean, I don't think there's any other reason.
Nope. Capcom just wanted to save money by going straight to digital since it's riskier to print a bunch of carts that aren't guaranteed to see well. Smart decision IMO despite all the hate.
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Blak The Great wrote:
BonnyMono wrote:
I know this is just me jumping to conclusions but... Is the lack of retail because Capcom are broke? I mean, I don't think there's any other reason.
Nope. Capcom just wanted to save money by going straight to digital since it's riskier to print a bunch of carts that aren't guaranteed to see well. Smart decision IMO despite all the hate.
It also (supposedly) let them release the English version sooner.
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Bad Player wrote:
Blak The Great wrote:
BonnyMono wrote:
I know this is just me jumping to conclusions but... Is the lack of retail because Capcom are broke? I mean, I don't think there's any other reason.
Nope. Capcom just wanted to save money by going straight to digital since it's riskier to print a bunch of carts that aren't guaranteed to see well. Smart decision IMO despite all the hate.
It also (supposedly) let them release the English version sooner.
And with enough typos to make an English teacher have a stroke.
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And with enough typos to make an English teacher have a stroke.And with enough typos to make an English teacher have a stroke.
That we can understand. I don't believe anyone could localize a game in a few months without typos. (The DLC lacked typos than the full game.)
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Don't complain about the typos. You didn't have to play the awful french version of Justice For All.
Oh man it's that much worse than DD?!
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Honestly, 20 or so typos isn't nearly as bad as it could have been. Just think of all the NES/SNES RPGs with really bad localizations. So I wouldn't call it horrible. Just disappointing, since I'm sure most of the typos would have been spotted by one more pass in the process.
This. I don't get why the typos are such a big deal when I didn't even notice THAT many. I really didn't find them worth complaining about.
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blahmoomoo wrote:
Honestly, 20 or so typos isn't nearly as bad as it could have been. Just think of all the NES/SNES RPGs with really bad localizations. So I wouldn't call it horrible. Just disappointing, since I'm sure most of the typos would have been spotted by one more pass in the process.
This. I don't get why the typos are such a big deal when there weren't even THAT many. I really don't find them worth complaining about.
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blahmoomoo wrote:
Just think of all the NES/SNES RPGs with really bad localizations.
Different circumstances between then and now. Video game budgets were much smaller back then compared to today so they couldn't afford to hire a big staff of professionals to translate what were, for their time, such huge games. Short of laziness or rushing the release date (as was in this case) there's really no excuse to have so many spelling errors in a game that's part of series famous for it's top-notch localization and faithfulness to the original material. There were a lot of parts in case 3 that I just couldn't take seriously because of lazy proofreading. It's not horrible, just disappointing like you said.
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(The DLC lacked typos than the full game.)
Yeah, the DLC didn't have any noticeable typos that I'm aware of. Case 2 and Case 3 were definitely the worse offenders though when it came to typos. I was almost starting to think I was playing a fan translation rather than the official game.
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(The DLC lacked typos than the full game.)
Yeah, the DLC didn't have any noticeable typos that I'm aware of. Case 2 and Case 3 were definitely the worse offenders though when it came to typos. I was almost starting to think I was playing a fan translation rather than the official game.
Yes, there were some rather bad typos in the main game, and several plain grammatical errors as well. I still recall 'Dadddy' being one of the worst as far as typos go, just because it stuck out so badly.
I don't recall seeing any in the DLC case either, but since I'm replaying it I will have to check.
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DragonCactus wrote:
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BonnyMono wrote:
(The DLC lacked typos than the full game.)
Yeah, the DLC didn't have any noticeable typos that I'm aware of. Case 2 and Case 3 were definitely the worse offenders though when it came to typos. I was almost starting to think I was playing a fan translation rather than the official game.
Yes, there were some rather bad typos in the main game, and several plain grammatical errors as well. I still recall 'Dadddy' being one of the worst as far as typos go, just because it stuck out so badly.
I don't recall seeing any in the DLC case either, but since I'm replaying it I will have to check.
There are a few typos such as misspelling someone's name and the wrong nametag for a character but otherwise, it's pretty polished.
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There were a lot of parts in case 3 that I just couldn't take seriously because of lazy proofreading.
I'm admittedly not there yet, and I believe DD has more errors than the previous games, but it would take a hell of a mood-ruining typo/grammatical error to top "The 'miracle' never happen."
Okay, it wasn't a part of the main storyline, but... there have always been some astoundingly bad typos.
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The only typo I caught and a lot of others did was this one: (beware, serious spoilers)
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Also, why are Case 2 and Case 3 the 2 cases that are drowned with typos? I mean, Case 4/5 may have SOME typos, but they're not really as common as the ones in 3/2.
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Then again, a few typos are way better than incomprehensible sentences. But if the localization wasn't so rushed in... Oh well.
Also, why are Case 2 and Case 3 the 2 cases that are drowned with typos? I mean, Case 4/5 may have SOME typos, but they're not really as common as the ones in 3/2.
Also, why are Case 2 and Case 3 the 2 cases that are drowned with typos? I mean, Case 4/5 may have SOME typos, but they're not really as common as the ones in 3/2.
I don't recall many typos in 3 (could be remembering wrong), but yeah, most were in 2. Perhaps they spent a lot more time localizing that case, due to how Japanese it was, giving the QAs less time to find mistakes.
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Scent wrote:
Huh? I don't remember those two having any sort of typos (maybe I hadn't noticed)...
There definitely were some grammatical errors in case 2, which I find more noticeable than spelling errors (which I recall there were a few of too). Again, not in excessive quantity, but there were more than past AA games.
I can't think of anything in particular though, because none were as memorable as the miracle never happen. Here is a line that got completely messed up by an extra word though (don't know which case it came from) [no spoilers here, there is no context]: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaCBbQbCAAAC4b6.jpg:large
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