Re: New Weapon in the War against Spam: Ban Hammer for non-M
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This is all I can do without a banhammer, but I hope this'll at least help clean the threads of spam.
EDIT:
These 2 bots are on one post, so can you guys ban them?
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At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
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Pierre wrote:
Right Manythendy rises again.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
>mfw you get IP banned because someone else bans the copy of the spambot you made
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DoMaya wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Right Manythendy rises again.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
>mfw you get IP banned because someone else bans the copy of the spambot you made
Gah, thanks DoMaya that would have been a nasty accident I suppose. Especially since some folks hunt sleeper bots in their spare time.
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Pierre wrote:
DoMaya wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Right Manythendy rises again.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
>mfw you get IP banned because someone else bans the copy of the spambot you made
Gah, thanks DoMaya that would have been a nasty accident I suppose. Especially since some folks hunt sleeper bots in their spare time.
just looking out for ya man.
Hey wanna hear something funny?
When the ban hammer was first given out to the ace folks, there was a way to ban ANYONE!
I figured it out because I was too lazy to want to click a button and I just wanted to copy and paste their names into the ban url.
ANYWAYS
I tried putting in my own name, and i saw that I could ban myself!
Then I went and tried someone else's name, and I could ban them too!
I had ULTIMATE POWER!
But I did the responsible thing and told the admins.
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Pierre wrote:
DoMaya wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Right Manythendy rises again.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
At 25 posts I can't ban it, and like Adrian suspected it's confirmed as a "Registered User" instead of a new one.
So there's definitely some sort of trick here.
Screw it, after this one, I'm making a fake account with that name in the hope it stops this happening again. Hopefully it'll at least serve as a temporary measure until we find a better way to deal with this.
>mfw you get IP banned because someone else bans the copy of the spambot you made
Gah, thanks DoMaya that would have been a nasty accident I suppose. Especially since some folks hunt sleeper bots in their spare time.
*cough*
Whatever gave you that idea?
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Pierre wrote:
Gah, thanks DoMaya that would have been a nasty accident I suppose. Especially since some folks hunt sleeper bots in their spare time.
They go to sleep, and never wake up.
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OH MANYE(thendy),
WELL YOU CAME AND YOU SPAMMED WITHOUT FAKING
BUT I SENT YOU AWAY
OH MANYE,
YOU TRICKED ME AND STOPPED ME FROM MAKING
A BANHAMMER STRIKE
OH MANYE.
(Ayup, banhammer'd it five minutes ago. Maybe it'll be back today, who knows.)
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IT'S (unbannably) BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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No posts yet, fortunately.
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Adrian in black wrote:
Apologies for the double post.
IT'S (unbannably) BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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No posts yet, fortunately.
IT'S (unbannably) BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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No posts yet, fortunately.
Unbannable on 0 posts, amazing.
It showed up the other day on 8 but I managed to ban it then
We need some kind of solution.
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Nose wrote:
Ah sorry, I did that. I banned them and deleted the posts manually so the username wouldn't resurface. It probably won't work, so I'm sure the Manye saga is far from over.
I still wonder if we made our own "Manye" whether that would block the name being used again by a bot.
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Pierre wrote:
Nose wrote:
Ah sorry, I did that. I banned them and deleted the posts manually so the username wouldn't resurface. It probably won't work, so I'm sure the Manye saga is far from over.
I still wonder if we made our own "Manye" whether that would block the name being used again by a bot.
I did think about that, but I wouldn't want someone getting IP banned by mistake. I think in the end it probably won't make a lick of difference, I'm just fairly interested in what the bot will do next given that it's always going for the same username. Lower case M maybe?
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Nose wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Nose wrote:
Ah sorry, I did that. I banned them and deleted the posts manually so the username wouldn't resurface. It probably won't work, so I'm sure the Manye saga is far from over.
I still wonder if we made our own "Manye" whether that would block the name being used again by a bot.
I did think about that, but I wouldn't want someone getting IP banned by mistake. I think in the end it probably won't make a lick of difference, I'm just fairly interested in what the bot will do next given that it's always going for the same username. Lower case M maybe?
I wonder if it'll do a variation of the name, by taking the base part of the name and switching out alphanumeric characters at the end. I've seen bots do something like "BobJonesAI" and then come back as "BobJonesBB" or "BobJonesGH" and so on.
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kwando wrote:
Can't the mods change the banhammer so it also bans said nickname from being used as well? Because, honestly, I can't see any legit users wanting to use the names the spambots use...
This is what's supposed to happen with it and it certainly did in the past. Stuff like that, the new users group and bots spamming to 30 posts to avoid banning imply it's not working as intended. I'll give Wooster a poke about it after Christmas, but it's generally not been easy to sort out. We could buff up security but we've been trying to keep the forums easy to join and use, so we've been explicitly avoiding stuff like Captcha for every post, mod approval for accounts/posts and flood control etc.
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Wooster wrote:
Hmm, technically it 'does' ban the username. The problem is that when the account is also deleted the ban for said username goes with it. So, for lack of anything better to offer, pick your poison? I can disable deleting the account, but that leaves the obvious problem. IP ban, reporting, and deleting posts all remain in place.
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kwando wrote:
Also, slightly worrying trend here. The usernames of the spambots are starting to get... Comprehensible.
It varies, really. Actually, for a while, I was seeing more gibberish than not. But there's always a trend involving real names. They seem okay and then suddenly it's a viagra convention.
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kwando wrote:
Also, slightly worrying trend here. The usernames of the spambots are starting to get... Comprehensible.
Bwahaha that's worrying? They could just be randomly generating legitimate surnames and first names and stringing em together.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
I feel the same
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dullahan1 wrote:
Now if these bots become sentient beings and start having real conversations with us, then we should start worrying.
Then they wouldn't be bots now would they.
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kwando wrote:
One time I've actually seen bots that had real words that made sense. That was really weird. (That wasn't here though.)
I've seen this at MSN boards a few times. I soon realized that what the bots were doing was quoting words from a previous post by a human user, and then adding a bit of spam beneath it.
I haven't seen that technique here, though we do get the occasional bot that drops a generic "hello, this is a great site" or other greeting, and showing no indication it has any interest in the AA series.
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dullahan1 wrote:
Now if these bots become sentient beings and start having real conversations with us, then we should start worrying.
Then they wouldn't be bots now would they.
2 words. Robot apocalypse.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Adrian in black wrote:
Seriously. How are they bypassing new user group status?
We need someone to look at the code if it's the case. I just assumed this new one had got a lucky break.
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Compare this user (not a confirmed bot, just a user) to this other user that joined nearly 24 hours later (again, not confirmed).
What I'm pointing at is the user IDs. In the event the users turn out to be bots, the IDs are 57678 and 58180. There is typically a new user for every ID. And the ID counter increases by 1 with every new user.
Earlier in the thread I mentioned there was an average of 70-80 users registering every day. In the 24 hour window I presented... well, look, I'm hoping my math is way off.
58180 - 57678 = 502
Either that, or that the mods are trying a new thing with IDs/registration.
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