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I have some questions. Once she forms a connection with someone, is she loyal to just that one person until they die? This whole incident must have been a relapse because who was she dependent on after Celeste? Fran wouldn't have been an issue if there was someone else. And is she still dependent on Fran in game 3?

Honestly, I think she just wants to be told what to do. I mean if Celeste or Fran had said to her, "You and me, we're lesbians." or "Go find a husband" she would have been ok with either.

Now after a few years of therapy, I think it's more likely that she would prefer women. But she might just decide to forget the whole thing and remain single.
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skye1083 wrote:
I have some questions. Once she forms a connection with someone, is she loyal to just that one person until they die? This whole incident must have been a relapse because who was she dependent on after Celeste? Fran wouldn't have been an issue if there was someone else. And is she still dependent on Fran in game 3?


1) Seems that way. We don't know for sure.
2) She's attached to Celeste's memory til she stabs Juan. Game pretty much says so.
3) Don't know, haven't played yet.
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It's boring to discuss the sexuality of ANY games characters (or fictional characters at all for that matter) in canon because it's never gonna be confirmed.

LIES! No it could be interesting >.> This thread is interesting no? Its nice to see veeryone's opinions right?


Straight canon with no speculation in a FANDOM forum discussion is what would get boring o.o I mean, don't get me wrong, I really only enjoy discussion if it's highly BASED off of canon, but there's some point where not being able to read more than one character's mind or see characters interact outside of one character's line of vision makes speculation necessary to character debates.
And having one side or the other confirmed kind of....squashes any discussion, really :P

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I have some questions. Once she forms a connection with someone, is she loyal to just that one person until they die? This whole incident must have been a relapse because who was she dependent on after Celeste? Fran wouldn't have been an issue if there was someone else. And is she still dependent on Fran in game 3?


1. That's not a trait that is necessary for a co-dependant, and we don't know enough about Adrian to make a real judgement--granted, I've only had one experience with co-dependency, but he doesn't ONLY cling to one person. I can't say how Adrian is in general, although in the specific case of Celeste, she seems to have not clung to anyone else in the two year span, although she no doubt relied on many other people in smaller ways--otherwise I can't see how she would have coped.

2. As far as we know, she didn't cling to anybody after Celeste until Franziska. Which is what I find odd and what makes me think that there's something more to her clinging to Celeste and Franziska, and what makes me think she's a lesbian.

3. We don't see them interact, however, Adrian says at some point (the credits?) that Franziska came by to teach her how to use a whip, so we know they're still in contact. My guess is that Adrian is still being a lesbian with dependant on her
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Straight canon with no speculation in a FANDOM forum discussion is what would get boring o.o I mean, don't get me wrong, I really only enjoy discussion if it's highly BASED off of canon, but there's some point where not being able to read more than one character's mind or see characters interact outside of one character's line of vision makes speculation necessary to character debates.
And having one side or the other confirmed kind of....squashes any discussion, really :P


Dont worry SZ I wasn't being too serious, only half :D
It IS nice to see everyones opinion though! What's canon anyways?
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Pretty sure in this case it means "according to the storyline".

/me goes off to scribble more GS fanart, maybe something of Adrian later on.
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oooo I can't wait ^_^ More fanarts!
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Liquidzilla wrote:
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Straight canon with no speculation in a FANDOM forum discussion is what would get boring o.o I mean, don't get me wrong, I really only enjoy discussion if it's highly BASED off of canon, but there's some point where not being able to read more than one character's mind or see characters interact outside of one character's line of vision makes speculation necessary to character debates.
And having one side or the other confirmed kind of....squashes any discussion, really :P


Dont worry SZ I wasn't being too serious, only half :D
It IS nice to see everyones opinion though! What's canon anyways?


Oh, I know you weren't being fully serious, I was responding to the guy you were quoting which is...pretty dumb of me not to delete your quote to make that clearer, eh heh heh >>;
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Canon is anything confirmed in-game; Phoenix is a lawyer, Maya likes burgers, Edgey wears pink/magenta/whatever and so on.

Fanon is anything that isn't said in-game and can apply to anything that fans think should happen, but doesn't, be it very likely and even implied by the game, or totally obscure and random, for example, Gant raping people, Matt and Juan having hatesex, Adrian being gay or Phoenix and co. flying giant mechas.

It might not be the textbook definition, but that's the general idea. Like Zephyr said, while you don't want to go too far out of the realm of canon (because then we get characters being totally out-of-character and it just gets silly), it's a lot of fun to argue/debate about fanon things with their bases in canon evidence.

...Like Adrian's sexuality.
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Oh, I know you weren't being fully serious, I was responding to the guy you were quoting which is...pretty dumb of me not to delete your quote to make that clearer, eh heh heh >>;

Oh cool, sorry XD i thought you were talking to me ^^;

Thanks Danni! Now I get what you guys were on about!
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*wanders in with some crunk juice*
...Dayum, it's gone DEAD in here. O_o
Okay ladies and germs, I guess this means the debate's over, yeah?
Well, it WAS getting boring, I guess.
So! Question tiem for you thinky types: Do you reckon Adrian would be better off paired with anyone other than Franziska or Celeste?
What about Mia? Mia's a great candidate for teh lesbian love with Ms. Andrews. After all, Mia's very mature and maternal, plus she had an attraction to Lana... (hey, it was EMA who said it was only 'intellectual')
Thoughts? :maya:
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I say SHOE! She needs a fuzzy fluffball of love!

What about the Butz? He could use a nice girl, and he's quite doting even if he is clumsy. One of his other cool points is he's a heck of an artist.

Not sure with Mia and Adrian. Mia to me comes across as someone who prefers a relationship with someone she can consider her equal or more.

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But Mia's dead. >.> So no lesbian love there.

Someone mentioned Lana a while back.
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Good. Make some.
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
But Mia's dead. >.> So no lesbian love there.


Maya Channeling Mia?

Oh snap, no I didn't.
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Good. Make some.

How?

I think she's with Fran, no one but Fran! *covers ears and screams*
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D-Berry wrote:
*wanders in with some crunk juice*
...Dayum, it's gone DEAD in here. O_o
Okay ladies and germs, I guess this means the debate's over, yeah?
Well, it WAS getting boring, I guess.
So! Question tiem for you thinky types: Do you reckon Adrian would be better off paired with anyone other than Franziska or Celeste?
What about Mia? Mia's a great candidate for teh lesbian love with Ms. Andrews. After all, Mia's very mature and maternal, plus she had an attraction to Lana... (hey, it was EMA who said it was only 'intellectual')
Thoughts? :maya:


Whoo boy, Necrophilia FTW...

And with the channeling thing...if, say, Pearl's channeling one of the two during an intimate moment, and Pearl's connection breaks...or even Maya. It'd be rather disgusting for both of them.

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What about the Butz?


Seriously, she deserves much better...
...When you hear a whiny bastard, it must be the Butz...
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
Someone mentioned Lana a while back.


@_@! THAT'S HOT an interesting idea :O

They could meet in jail, both for obstruction of justice involving stabbing dead people with knives, and then once Adrian got out she could visit Lana periodically until Lana was released, at which point Adrian would be situated back into the real world and could help Lana cope with trying to get a job/a life/etc. after jail :O I could see Lana being the strong career woman type that Adrian clings to, and they could be intellectual matches somewhat--also, Lana post-RftA is compassionate so would be patient with Adrian's disorder, and they both have several in-game hints of lesbianism.

.............WHY ARE THOSE TWO SO PAIR-UPABLE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE? O.O

I still like AdrianxPenny. And EdgeworthxLana. >>;
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SZ, you just thought up a fanfiction XD
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...OH GOD DON'T EVEN TEMPT ME MY CURRENT FANFIC IS ENOUGH OF A MESS ALREADY D: XD
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What happened to that fic, anyway? :yuusaku:
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*tempting SZ* >=) Go on, would it hurt? You'd enjoy it so much ^^ *tempting*
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What happened to that fic, anyway? :yuusaku:


....It got sucked into a portal dimension where words are wrongly chosen, scenes are pointless, and there is no dialogue existing. Meanwhile, disorders are not portrayed correctly and the characters are sucked into swirling vortexes where they battle grammer monsters and disjointed scene demons.



......In other words, I HAVE NO FURRY CLUE D8

Status is basically the same the last time I posted about it ><; The second chapter is so disjointed and it's such a sloppy heap and I don't know what I want to do with it and I can't even write a sentence without analyzing it incorectly from all sides and then completely changing or deleting it. Added to that, its current state has stressed me out to the point of not working on it at ALL, and so I'm getting nothing done.
This just ain't workin'.
I LOVE this fic's concept and so I'll TRY to return to it with a clear mind but at the moment...Don't expect any sort of update any time soon ><

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*tempting SZ* >=) Go on, would it hurt? You'd enjoy it so much ^^ *tempting*


Yes. Yes, it would hurt D:
*points to above half of post about stress level*
The problem is that for me, fanfic writing really IS Serious Business. It makes me feel awkward for reasons I'd rather not explain and I'm too criticizing and analyzing to ever finish anything.

I have this innate talent of making simple, fun leisure activities huge blobby cyncial messes.
Sorry guys :<

That said, I DO love this fic and I WILL work on it soon, promise ^.^ Adrian+Penny is too wonderful for me NOT to explore and nobody's going to write it but me, so I WILL get it hammered out >D
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I think it's normal to have writer-angst, Silver. I was plagued with in constantly--Raelle, Funk, and Lyssie were saints to put up with me--while writing the first chapter of Struggling, especially with the trial scene and Ema's characterization.

But, as they told me, the important thing is to get it all out. If it's bad, it's bad. But bad can always be fixed if you go over it and think things through. I think you have the start to a potentially interesting fic, especially since I was just lamenting to Raelle the other night about the dearth of good female/female friendship-centric art/fic/canon.

If you're finding yourself getting stuck, I would suggest beginning to outline the fic Not only can it be criminally fun, but it keeps the plot details fresh in your head until you decide to go back to it.
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ARGH I AM SUCK WRITER OF SUCK I CANNOT WRITE THE WORDS THEY DO NOT COME D:



I think we've all been there >.>

Listen to Mu. She's wise beyond her years (which is considerable, considering she's a geezer)




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YOU'RE CATCHING UP, OLD MAN.
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Well, I'm younger than Funky Boy, so I must still be a youthful sprout, me. Actually, most people think I'm younger than I actually am on this site. Is it my random bursts of energy? Or the way I just seem to act so ditzy all the time? Maybe it's something else, like MY OCCASIONAL HYPERACTIVITY AND ENTHUSIASM FOR ALL THINGS RELATED TO AWESOME.
...You know what? 'Adrian' sounds a lot like 'Age-rian'. YAY! I FOUND SOMETHING ALMOST RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC WHILE RANTING ABOUT MY AGE AND STUFF! HIGH FIVE!
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LIES! You're awesome >=(

Don't worry SZ, it's probably wonderful, everyones most critical of their own stuff.
My fanfics all random drabbles, but I really love writing it, it's not as hard to think up if their all one shots ^_^
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Liquidzilla wrote:
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ARGH I AM SUCK WRITER OF SUCK I CANNOT WRITE THE WORDS THEY DO NOT COME

LIES! You're awesome >=(

I don't think Funk meant that, Zilla. ^_^
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Thanks guys :D (WTF Danny you so crazy :sal: )

Thanks so much for the encouragement and advice Musouka, I really appreciate it :) Outlining would probably be wise, especially since a large part of my problem is that my second chapter so far basically consists of three scenes that line up in no particular order >>; I'll try to get some real work done on it soon ^.^

(And sorry for the emo earlier guys XD I'm a drama-llama when I'm running on no sleep :sal: )
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I don't think Funk meant that, Zilla. ^_^

Oh......well I still think he writes awesome fic!!! >=(
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I agree, Zilla.
I mean, Follow the Fool was...mind-blowing. But hey, we've all read it already, so I'm not gonna whip you towards the fanfic thread while yelling "GO! GO! HYAAH! MUSH" or anything. Or am I...? :whip:
@Silver: Damn RIGHT I'm crazy. :gant:
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Its was: BLOWING MY MIND :D
Whips? Noooo! I'm delicate X)
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Go get your mind blown again, then!
THAT'S AN ORDER!! HYAAAAAH!! :ka-whip:
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Argh! The whip of pain! :beef:

Only D-Berry Adrian Andrews could enjoy that!
:adrian: Wut?
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Argh! The whip of pain! :beef:

Only D-Berry Adrian Andrews could enjoy that!
:adrian: Wut?

LOLONAPONYCALLEDBOB.
I wouldn't mind being whipped by Kyouya Hobohodo Franny.... ;d
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Someone here mentioned Franny teaching Adrian how to use a whip... It'd be a funny sight to see Adrian practicing it on someone. Oh the possibilities....... LOL.

:whip: Are you ready for today's lesson Adrian?
:adrian: Y-yes Franziska.
:ka-whip: First cast the whip back then snap your wrist as you throw your arm forward! Like so! *CRACK!
:franny: Now you try.
:adrian: Ok... Cast the whip back...
*whpsh!
:franny: AGGGH!!! YOU FOOL!
:adrian: Eh?! S-so sorry Fransi-
:whip: If you're going to use a whip, at least put some strength into it!
:franny: That just now was hardly a scratch! AGAIN!
:adrian:....
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Youforgotthepartwiththekinkywhipsex8D

Lawl that's great x3
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That was COMEDY. XD

Ya could've put that in the Funnies thread! :edgy:
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