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Great characters, an interesting plot, and some genuinely touching stuff in there. Another one of those cases like 1-5 where you feel really good inside for helping all these people break the unpleasantness haunting their relationships.
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I really wish Means's psychology would be somehow more closely presented instead of just "the end justifies the means" all over again.
Well... yes, I have to agree. It was a bit wishy-washy.
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So, since spoiler-tags aren't neccessary as confirmed in the start of the thread, even though many people have used them:
I really enjoyed this case! It was good fun, and I felt like I really cared about the victim even though we didn't get to know her first hand. I liked the school setting and I adored the school's "theme"-music. I was certain of the fact that Means was guilty. It just couldn't be any of those three youngsters! And that statue-esque design of him... He just gave me the heebie-jeebies, Means, that is. I liked his clothes, though...
The friendship between the three youngsters was adorable. First I thought Hugh was an arrogant little twat, but when I got to know his reasons I just found him pitiful and endearing. Robin was awesome as well, definitely a new favourite. I thought she was a girl at first, then they started calling him a "he"... Alright, he is a boy, then... Oh no, wait, twist - Robin was a girl after all. I wasn't fond of Athena outing her like that, but I've already talked a lot about that in Robin's own thread. I really liked Juniper in this case, much more so than in the first one, here she seemed more... natural. Mature. I bet she will be a great judge one day.
And Scuttlebutt, I loved her. She was great fun and I felt rather bad for her when learning her true reasons.
The three friends' "proof of friendship" went straight to my heart. That anime-cutscene was one of very, very few I didn't find absolutely cringeworthy... until Hugh started scream-crying. That was...
I really liked Aristotele's "transformation". His hair like a Spartan helmet or something. I must admit, I didn't see THAT kind of a transformation coming (I was tired!) so I actually gasped. Creepy stuff! I waited in vain for a true breakdown, though.
Oh, and it was fun to see Klavier again.
All in all: a very nice case. I also adored case 2, which might have been my favourite thus far... Mayor Tenma... Just... Tenma.
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I might be the only person in the world who loved Klavier's cameo, and I hate Klavier as a character. At the very least, it's an acknowledgement by the writers that they're aware Apollo Justice happened and they aren't going to abandon it completely
Nah, it was really good seeing him in case 3, even if they were trying kind of hard to include him (famous guest prosecutor! Who'll randomly do a song with the Lamiroir costume-wearing student studying to become a judge!)
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Sierra Mikain wrote:
Nah, it was really good seeing him in case 3, even if they were trying kind of hard to include him (famous guest prosecutor! Who'll randomly do a song with the Lamiroir costume-wearing student studying to become a judge!)
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Sierra Mikain wrote:
Nah, it was really good seeing him in case 3, even if they were trying kind of hard to include him (famous guest prosecutor! Who'll randomly do a song with the Lamiroir costume-wearing student studying to become a judge!)
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JesusMonroe wrote:
I might be the only person in the world who loved Klavier's cameo, and I hate Klavier as a character. At the very least, it's an acknowledgement by the writers that they're aware Apollo Justice happened and they aren't going to abandon it completely
I'm not so sure about that, actually. I think that a lot of people loved the cameo itself, and definitely wanted more from Klavier. But that's probably where the hate came in. He didn't appear a lot, so that was a let-down, and his personality was meh in comparison to in AJ. Also, Ema may have something to do with it... It just didn't seem right to see Klavier without Ema popping up and calling him a glimmerous fop. And then we reach the chilling conclusion: the VA for Klavier's single objection and in that cutscene. There's only one word that can describe this... "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO."
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Still, I don't really think his voice in the cutscene was actually all that bad, unlike everyone else. I mean, I thought there, it actually kinda fit.
Also, really, this game is so low on voice actors compared to PLvsPWAA...
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TheBlackquillz wrote:
JesusMonroe wrote:
I might be the only person in the world who loved Klavier's cameo, and I hate Klavier as a character. At the very least, it's an acknowledgement by the writers that they're aware Apollo Justice happened and they aren't going to abandon it completely
I'm not so sure about that, actually. I think that a lot of people loved the cameo itself, and definitely wanted more from Klavier. But that's probably where the hate came in. He didn't appear a lot, so that was a let-down, and his personality was meh in comparison to in AJ. Also, Ema may have something to do with it... It just didn't seem right to see Klavier without Ema popping up and calling him a glimmerous fop. And then we reach the chilling conclusion: the VA for Klavier's single objection and in that cutscene. There's only one word that can describe this... "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO."
Before this game, the very last time we saw him, he announced that his band would be splitting up, as he wanted to focus more on his duties as a prosecutor. The next time we see him, he's getting the band back together for a single night. What kind of character progression is that? Not to mention
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And honestly, Ema and Klavier not in the same room at the same time is probably the best thing that's been done for both of those characters.
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Bad Player wrote:
I think the bigger problem with Klavier is how his face was in all of the promotional material, and then he ended up having nothing more than a pointless cameo.
I didn't know this. The only trailer I saw was the initial one that showed off the courtroom bombing and Mood Matrix and a promotional video for Blackquill (which also gave away that Apollo would be playable).
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
I think the bigger problem with Klavier is how his face was in all of the promotional material, and then he ended up having nothing more than a pointless cameo.
I didn't know this. The only trailer I saw was the initial one that showed off the courtroom bombing and Mood Matrix and a promotional video for Blackquill (which also gave away that Apollo would be playable).
I didn't really either, but what place does Klavier really have in art like this?
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Bad Player wrote:
JesusMonroe wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
I think the bigger problem with Klavier is how his face was in all of the promotional material, and then he ended up having nothing more than a pointless cameo.
I didn't know this. The only trailer I saw was the initial one that showed off the courtroom bombing and Mood Matrix and a promotional video for Blackquill (which also gave away that Apollo would be playable).
I didn't really either, but what place does Klavier really have in art like this?
But they chose the best slot for him, down left in a corner to take up space. :D
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Anyway, there's something that bothered me about this case. The case is "broken open" when Athena proves the possibility that the recording did not say, "You're a goner!" but said, "Hugh O'Conner!" (and in the JP version, it's, "I'm going to kill you!"). Why was the possibility never brought up that the victim shouted "I'm going to kill you!/you're a goner!" at her killer? There have been other victims in the series who have tried to kill the people who ended up killing them. It seemed like a reasonable possibility that was never addressed
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WaitingforGodot wrote:
My favourite part of this case is definitely that classroomesque trial (I do enjoy this quite silly - in a nice way - case all in all though, it's the one in DD i had most fun revisiting since I thought it was quite even). Aristotle's, ehrm, lovely notes on the chalkboard, Simon as a nonchalant little brat... and the not-so-fun doubts and insecurities of Athena, which I appreciated for entirely different reasons. It felt very realistic, like all of her anxieties.
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SenorJustice-dono wrote:
I enjoyed this case, but I sorely wished that Klavier was a bigger part of it. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I liked Klavier as a pretty chill prosecutor from the start (Edgeworth is still my favorite prosecutor, but still as uptight as ever). I would have been much better for him to provide assistance to Apollo. I am going to follow the advice of one of the posters and just take the game at face value without any hype from the ads.
Seriously though... Klavier's face is actually bigger than Edgeworth's ENTIRE BODY in this... Not to mention his face is bigger than Athena and Apollo's combined. So wouldn't that ensue that he has a larger role? Nope.
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TheBlackquillz wrote:
SenorJustice-dono wrote:
I enjoyed this case, but I sorely wished that Klavier was a bigger part of it. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I liked Klavier as a pretty chill prosecutor from the start (Edgeworth is still my favorite prosecutor, but still as uptight as ever). I would have been much better for him to provide assistance to Apollo. I am going to follow the advice of one of the posters and just take the game at face value without any hype from the ads.
Seriously though... Klavier's face is actually bigger than Edgeworth's ENTIRE BODY in this... Not to mention his face is bigger than Athena and Apollo's combined. So wouldn't that ensue that he has a larger role? Nope.
Wow. That's pretty bad to hype up Klavier when he only appears an extended cameo when Edgeworth had a significantly bigger role than he did. Of course, advertising isn't anything if it doesn't entice anyone (with false hopes).
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Mister Gruel wrote:
Do you think that Klavier was originally supposed to be the prosecutor for Case 5-3? I believe I recall Blackquill acting a lot less stoic during some parts of the trial, and combining that with Klavier's objection and artowork, you would think that he was supposed to be a prosecutor in a case during Dual Destinies. Considering that it was also Athena's first case, you'd think that Capcom would give her one of the easiest prosecutors in the game.
Depends. It could be like they were trying to make Blackquill another Godot (who shows up in all of the cases as the prosecutor except the first one) or maybe they were trying to make the player think that Blackquill is the badguy in this game. It might also have something to do with...
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Mister Gruel wrote:
You have a point there. Though I personally would've liked more variety in prosecutors.
This, seriously. I was so hoping DD would switch out the prosecutor at least for one entire case, because while I know Blackquill is designed to be central, I felt as if they threw all their memorable tricks and moments of him into his first appearance in 5-2. IMO he should not have broken his chains as early as he did, and it felt like they tried to impress me too much with what Blackquill was capable off, too soon. I would've saved some of that, because as a result he just seemed kind of bland in the remainder of the game.
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Fennekin210 wrote:
Wow. That's pretty bad to hype up Klavier when he only appears an extended cameo when Edgeworth had a significantly bigger role than he did. Of course, advertising isn't anything if it doesn't entice anyone (with false hopes).
At least Klav had SOME extra character development.
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