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Can I ask what this scare jump was about? So I won't scream like an idiot like I did with Wind Waker when it will happen when I get the game.
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Can I ask what this scare jump was about? So I won't scream like an idiot like I did with Wind Waker when it will happen when I get the game.


Alright, but just to be on the safe side, I'll put it in some context and in a spoiler tag (nothing major, obviously, but if you want it all to be a surprise, read no further).

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The first two labyrinths are fairly nonsensical but still mildly disturbing in their own way, and filled with Persona 4-like symbolism. In every dungeon, there are extra powerful enemies called F.O.E (hue hue hue) roaming around the map in a specific pattern, which for the most part makes them easy to avoid, especially since they're marked by a purple arrow even before you enter the room they're in. I BELIEVE you can defeat them, but doing so would be a tremendous challenge, and your party starts yelling and telling you to flee, so it's clearly not something you can do early in the game anyway.

Once you reach the third labyrinth, however, everything gets eerily dark, the music gets creepier and so do the enemies. The F.O.E, now in the form of blue, bloody babies with leather hoods over their heads, drop down from the roof without the map indicating anything of the sort; however, a text still appears before they fall down. They also start following you, meaning that if you run into a corner, you're either done for or have to teleport away.

That's actually worse in text than it is in the game. However, once I entered a room in the second part of the third labyrinth, they said something about F.O.Es moving unpredictably and we should move with caution and not run. Thinking it would be more of the same, I moved on as usual, albeit a bit more slowly. Then, without ANY warning, any text or whatever, a doll-like ghost appears with a creepy laugh RIGHT in front of you, and it was done so well it almost looked like it came from outside the 3DS screen and jumped into the game. It doesn't sound so bad, but trust me, I couldn't help but to scream loudly. They also don't follow you, but simply block your path, meaning that you have to walk around them, and the pop up on several other locations. They also mutate if you manage to run into them for real (thus, challenging them to a fight, which is why you shouldn't just blaze through this part), turning into 3 giant, gray, slimy stacked heads.

Oh, and in the first part of the third labyrinth, an F.O.E in the form of a crying girl followed you in a more creepy way than usual: standing behind the door of the room you just left, meaning you had no idea what she looked like, if you could leave or if she was even hostile.

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Can I ask what this scare jump was about? So I won't scream like an idiot like I did with Wind Waker when it will happen when I get the game.


Alright, but just to be on the safe side, I'll put it in some context and in a spoiler tag (nothing major, obviously, but if you want it all to be a surprise, read no further).

Spoiler: Scary stuff
The first two labyrinths are fairly nonsensical but still mildly disturbing in their own way, and filled with Persona 4-like symbolism. In every dungeon, there are extra powerful enemies called F.O.E (hue hue hue) roaming around the map in a specific pattern, which for the most part makes them easy to avoid, especially since they're marked by a purple arrow even before you enter the room they're in. I BELIEVE you can defeat them, but doing so would be a tremendous challenge, and your party starts yelling and telling you to flee, so it's clearly not something you can do early in the game anyway.

Once you reach the third labyrinth, however, everything gets eerily dark, the music gets creepier and so do the enemies. The F.O.E, now in the form of blue, bloody babies with leather hoods over their heads, drop down from the roof without the map indicating anything of the sort; however, a text still appears before they fall down. They also start following you, meaning that if you run into a corner, you're either done for or have to teleport away.

That's actually worse in text than it is in the game. However, once I entered a room in the second part of the third labyrinth, they said something about F.O.Es moving unpredictably and we should move with caution and not run. Thinking it would be more of the same, I moved on as usual, albeit a bit more slowly. Then, without ANY warning, any text or whatever, a doll-like ghost appears with a creepy laugh RIGHT in front of you, and it was done so well it almost looked like it came from outside the 3DS screen and jumped into the game. It doesn't sound so bad, but trust me, I couldn't help but to scream loudly. They also don't follow you, but simply block your path, meaning that you have to walk around them, and the pop up on several other locations. They also mutate if you manage to run into them for real (thus, challenging them to a fight, which is why you shouldn't just blaze through this part), turning into 3 giant, gray, slimy stacked heads.

Oh, and in the first part of the third labyrinth, an F.O.E in the form of a crying girl followed you in a more creepy way than usual: standing behind the door of the room you just left, meaning you had no idea what she looked like or if she was even hostile.


That description reminds me of Wind Waker's Fairy Queen.
Btw, if it looked like that thing came out of the 3DS... did you have 3D on? >_>

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Persona 3 is supposed to be dark.
You have a dog as a party member.
What.

At least Teddie fits more into the motif that Persona 4 gives off than Koromaru in Persona 3. I will say though, Koromaru needs more love. Yeah, I'm not that big of a fan of Persona 3, but I like Koro. He doesn't offend me, I like his character (he is a dog), and he doesn't have stupid character moments. Thinking more about it, no joke, I'm starting to consider putting him up there as one of my favorite Persona 3 characters, which is sad when you consider that, but I think it just goes to show how bad most of the characters in that game are.
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Urgh if I had to pick between Koromaru and Teddie, I'd pick Koromaru. Teddie may fit more with P4's lightheartedness but he's still pretty annoying. Koromaru, on the other hand... when I did his Social Link in P3P, I loved that guy. I'm an animal lover overall but I tend to like cats more since I grew up with them. But Koromaru is just sweet. And he's a decent party member. Definitely a good character in P3, and yes, that says bad things about the others.

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Koromaru pulls his weight well, he's good at physical attacks, lightning fast (obviously), and while I'd say being the element of darkness is a disadvantage considering how niche it is he makes up for it by having a hand of fire magic as well meaning he doesn't have Naoto's problem.

Also those F.O.E.s sound really sinister, it's a strange mechanic probably hailing more from the Etrian Odyssey side of things I'd guess. Persona never really did things that bad, I mean they always had the pulsing red shadows but they were doable, just challenging. From your description I'd estimate they are more like the huge level 99 monsters you'd see in Xenoblade Chronicles.
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Also those F.O.E.s sound really sinister, it's a strange mechanic probably hailing more from the Etrian Odyssey side of things I'd guess. Persona never really did things that bad, I mean they always had the pulsing red shadows but they were doable, just challenging. From your description I'd estimate they are more like the huge level 99 monsters you'd see in Xenoblade Chronicles.


From what I heard, they are more like the red shadow, but with a color code, like red mean that they are way over your level, blue mean that you can beat them and the other color mean you can try to beat them but no guarantee. And yes it comes from Etrian Odyssey.

The only time I used Koromaru was during the Fortune battle, because Ken wasn't there and he was the least under leveled character I had on hand. Surprisingly enough he did very well. I used him a bit while playing the answer, but gave him up when the boss arrived with Cerberus and tried to whipe me out with it's damn dark spell. Though I must admit it my heart bleed a bit when I hear things like Koro is the best character in P3. I guess I'm really the only one here to enjoy the characters...
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Also those F.O.E.s sound really sinister, it's a strange mechanic probably hailing more from the Etrian Odyssey side of things I'd guess. Persona never really did things that bad, I mean they always had the pulsing red shadows but they were doable, just challenging. From your description I'd estimate they are more like the huge level 99 monsters you'd see in Xenoblade Chronicles.


From what I heard, they are more like the red shadow, but with a color code, like red mean that they are way over your level, blue mean that you can beat them and the other color mean you can try to beat them but no guarantee. And yes it comes from Etrian Odyssey.

The only time I used Koromaru was during the Fortune battle, because Ken wasn't there and he was the least under leveled character I had on hand. Surprisingly enough he did very well. I used him a bit while playing the answer, but gave him up when the boss arrived with Cerberus and tried to whipe me out with it's damn dark spell. Though I must admit it my heart bleed a bit when I hear things like Koro is the best character in P3. I guess I'm really the only one here to enjoy the characters...



Psst don't tell anyone but I don't hate the cast (except Yukari) either.

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If we go by human characters, I liked Akihiko. Aegis was a good character too, and Mitsuru, Ken and Junpei weren't too bad. It might've been Fuuka's voice, but her character drove me up a wall. And Yukari... well, it was Yukari. Enough said. Shinji I suppose wasn't bad either, but I felt like I never really got anything out of him.

It's not really that Persona 3's cast was terrible, save for a couple, it's just that, I feel, Persona 4's cast was WAY better. Teddie optional. And yes, that includes Yukiko as well for me. Despite how bland she felt at times, she had her moments, and when she did, they were usually pretty good. Drunkiko has some of my favorite one-liners in the game. She gave quite a great description on what the game is all about.
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If we go by human characters, I liked Akihiko. Aegis was a good character too, and Mitsuru, Ken and Junpei weren't too bad. It might've been Fuuka's voice, but her character drove me up a wall. And Yukari... well, it was Yukari. Enough said. Shinji I suppose wasn't bad either, but I felt like I never really got anything out of him.

It's not really that Persona 3's cast was terrible, save for a couple, it's just that, I feel, Persona 4's cast was WAY better. Teddie optional. And yes, that includes Yukiko as well for me. Despite how bland she felt at times, she had her moments, and when she did, they were usually pretty good. Drunkiko has some of my favorite one-liners in the game. She gave quite a great description on what the game is all about.


At least we can agree on that. The problem with Shinji is that he join you late and only for... one boss?! Sad, because he could had reveal so much about Takaya and his group and they never explained why he had a problem with his persona. Drunkiko and Drunkami in the anime made me laugh a bit too loud, especially Drunkami.

I guess in term of character in my case it's 50/50, but because the story focus more on the character in P4, I tend to say they win the character part (even though Rise is my Yukari and Chie my Shinji). If we are going in the social link departement it's pretty much the same. I liked the Aeon, hermit, hanged, sun, and tower link, but hated the star in 3 and for 4 I liked Death, Justice, Hierophant, Emperor, Moon (even if the first part desinterested me) and Temperance but didn't like the Devil, the Hermit and Strenght (yeah I consider Chie a correct character).
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I don't even consider the Fox a Social Link. It's more of a sidequest thing that gives you discounts in the TV. The ending to its Social Link is kinda adorable though.

I think in Persona 3, I only enjoyed the Dying Boy's Social Link, the internet one, Aegis's, and the old couple. The others either had okay social links or were just downright boring. Especially the Fat Kid's and Kenji?. The one that was in love with the teacher. Ugh.

In Persona 4, I can see where you're coming from with Chie. Personally, I think she's great in the story, but her Social Link is just okay to me. If we go by party members, I think that Kanji has the most interesting social link, followed by Rise. As for others, I enjoyed Dojima's and Nanako's, the old lady, Ai's (after the first part like you), Kou's (didn't like Daisuke's), Naoki's (another one I didn't care for at first), the old lady, and the mother and son. Something about helping a mother and child understand each other was touching to me.

The ones I didn't care for were Yumi (crybaby), Ayane (annoying). The remaining ones were just kinda there. The fact though that I found more interesting and only a couple that were boring compared to Persona 3 just makes me feel that the characters and the writing were improved.

I like to look at Persona 3 as kind of an experiment and skeleton of Persona 4. Persona 3 is okay on its own, but I like to believe that because of the faults that Persona 3 had, Persona 4 was able to build on it and make it better. I'm hoping Persona 5 will continue that trend.
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From what I heard, they are more like the red shadow, but with a color code, like red mean that they are way over your level, blue mean that you can beat them and the other color mean you can try to beat them but no guarantee. And yes it comes from Etrian Odyssey.


Really? Reminds me more of Blade Dancer.

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Though I must admit it my heart bleed a bit when I hear things like Koro is the best character in P3. I guess I'm really the only one here to enjoy the characters...


The only reason I semi-tolerate Akihiko and like Aigis is because of their voices, Midorikawa Hikaru and freaking Sakamoto Maaya respectively. In terms of personality and all, yeah, I've seen much better characters in tons of other franchises.

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Eh, Yukiko is an okay character. Only part of her I don't like is the reason for her Shadow and her Social Link, where I feel like I wasted my time, letting her go through a little rebellious phase and then decides to stay behind, after all.

As for P4's other Social Links, I absolutely hated the Moon one! Why can't I tell Ai that, if she acts like a bitch, people will treat her like a bitch and I will leave now, thank you very much. Hated it how she forced you to become her boyfriend and then when she wants to break up, the only answers I had were whiny "I don't want to" ones. Dude! You're being offered to not spend time with a bitch anymore! Take advantage of it! And yes, I know she was given a freaking sobby backstory which is absolutely NO excuse for her behavior. I don't care how much she was bullied for being Fattyhara, that doesn't excuse her behavior.

Other than that, I preferred the Party Social Links much more than the NPC ones. I mean, Yumi and Ayane for Sun are both pretty bland and boring, Naoki is bland, too. The Devil one was okay, I never got far with the Death one - although given the story, I guess it's a tearjerker, and the Tower was... *sigh* Ditto Temperance. I dunno, I much preferred learning more about my party members than random NPCs that I don't care about.
Oh, except for Naoto's. I don't mind her Social Link events, per se, I just hate how you have to act to get to the romance route for her. You have to treat her like a little fragile flower that, just because you now know that she has no sausage in her pants, can't do anything on her own and must be protected. Feels disgusting. I never romanced her. Only girl I romanced to date was Rise.

Which is why P3 fails for me on the male route. I don't know anything about my party members except the girls. And Mitsuru's isn't available until late in the game, Aigis even later, so I still don't know anything about half of the cast outside of plot scenes.

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Akihiko? An okay character? Sorry, but if not even Liam O'brien can save a character, then there's something seriously wrong with it. I can't remember a single line he said other than the one at the beach and he actually showed, you know, a human side; other than that he served to dump exposition on you. Couple that with only talking about training and having the most cliché of cliché backstories, and you've got a character so dull it puts you to sleep.

As for Persona 4, while the main characters are much more interesting than the Persona 3 ones, their social links are not as good as their NPC counterparts. Kanji is, of course, the exception, and I liked Rise's and Youske's is a bit underrated (please don't kill me). I actually think Naoki can be my favorite social link in the entire game, and I was sincerely touched by Nanako and Doujima's, even though it was a bit predictable.

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Akihiko? An okay character? Sorry, but if not even Liam O'brien can save a character, then there's something seriously wrong with it. I can't remember a single line he said other than the one at the beach and he actually showed, you know, a human side; other than that he served to dump exposition on you. Couple that with only talking about training and having the most cliché of cliché backstories, and you've got a character so dull it puts you to sleep.


Well I kinda hate Liam O'Brien due to him having voiced Kain in Dissidia 012 and Caius from XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. His voice was okay, but the characters were so annoying, I don't care if Liam's voice can make people orgasm or something, hate those two.

Also, like I said, the only reason I even romanced Akihiko in the Female Route initially was because he was the only semi-decent character there. Junpei was annoying, Shinji just doesn't survive long enough - and given the Social Link, he's still not very interesting, and Ken I didn't know at first was romanceable. Add the fact that Junpei actually can't be romanced, you are kind of restricted in potential love interests... 'cept for Ryoji. And he still doesn't count.

And Akihiko has a cliché backstory? Pfff, all of them have cliché backstories. All of them have a dead relative. Which is a reason why I never saw exactly why Yukari is supposed to somehow be pitied for having lost her dad so young. Everybody lost a relative, why is she supposedly so special?

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Wait, that was Liam O'Brien who voiced Akihiko? I knew there was a reason I almost liked that character.
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As for P4's other Social Links, I absolutely hated the Moon one! Why can't I tell Ai that, if she acts like a bitch, people will treat her like a bitch and I will leave now, thank you very much. Hated it how she forced you to become her boyfriend and then when she wants to break up, the only answers I had were whiny "I don't want to" ones. Dude! You're being offered to not spend time with a bitch anymore! Take advantage of it! And yes, I know she was given a freaking sobby backstory which is absolutely NO excuse for her behavior. I don't care how much she was bullied for being Fattyhara, that doesn't excuse her behavior.

No, fattyhara was no excuse. But if you chose not to become her boyfriend at rank 6, she actually does realize this, starts reevaluating her life and makes the change herself. 'Course, I still didn't romance her after that.

As for the other links, in P4 I remember liking Justice, Hierophant, Hanged Man, Emperor and Death. The rest I thought were good/okay but not exceptional. Compared to P3, I only liked Sun. Hanged Man there was ruined for me because there was no option to say "I can't just keep buying food for you."
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I don't care. She's a bitch and if she wants to change, great, but that'll take years and it will not make me forget what a bitch she was beforehand. Heck, I was so angry in my latest P4 run, where I had attempted a full Social Link run and was in the late one for Ai and then got the scene of comforting Rise that resulted in the romance option.
The freaking game told me that I was already in a relationship. All I said was "Oh yeah. That relationship that doesn't mean anything, go anywhere and is basically wasting my time? That one doesn't count." with all my sarcasm. Cause that was just dumb. I still want to let Ai jump off the roof if she thinks A BOY SHE LIKES DOESN'T LIKE HER, OMG SHE MUST KILL HERSELF NOW!!
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P3's Hanged Man was a bit weird if you played the female route. If you maxed it out and talked with the father at the end of the game, he sort-of-not-really-that-sounded-wrong-I-didn't-mean-it-like-that proposes you to marry him so Maiko will love coming back home to dad and seeing you, the Onee-san/stepmother... that was weird.

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I don't even consider the Fox a Social Link. It's more of a sidequest thing that gives you discounts in the TV. The ending to its Social Link is kinda adorable though.

I think in Persona 3, I only enjoyed the Dying Boy's Social Link, the internet one, Aegis's, and the old couple. The others either had okay social links or were just downright boring. Especially the Fat Kid's and Kenji?. The one that was in love with the teacher. Ugh.

In Persona 4, I can see where you're coming from with Chie. Personally, I think she's great in the story, but her Social Link is just okay to me. If we go by party members, I think that Kanji has the most interesting social link, followed by Rise. As for others, I enjoyed Dojima's and Nanako's, the old lady, Ai's (after the first part like you), Kou's (didn't like Daisuke's), Naoki's (another one I didn't care for at first), the old lady, and the mother and son. Something about helping a mother and child understand each other was touching to me.

The ones I didn't care for were Yumi (crybaby), Ayane (annoying). The remaining ones were just kinda there. The fact though that I found more interesting and only a couple that were boring compared to Persona 3 just makes me feel that the characters and the writing were improved.

I like to look at Persona 3 as kind of an experiment and skeleton of Persona 4. Persona 3 is okay on its own, but I like to believe that because of the faults that Persona 3 had, Persona 4 was able to build on it and make it better. I'm hoping Persona 5 will continue that trend.


Yeah, well P3 WAS the one to break the ice with it's social link system, so that explain why some links are very weak and other can be considered good. I started to dig 3 first and then I took an interest in 4, because the story sounded boring on paper (but we all know I was wrong). Maybe there is a little of nostalgia in my opinion, since while, indeed a lot of link are boring, I could relate to them, which was rare at the time for me. I have mixed feeling about Yuko and the fortune arcana guy in 3 because, while they are uninteresting, they were about thing that happened in my life and yeah... I don't have any excuse here, they won little points in my heart passing them from boring to okay. I guess the fact that I read everything about the story and the characters before seeing any footage of the game have altered my view on things. Also, in 4, some links felt unrelated to their arcana for me. The devil one come to my mind, when I wondered why is she the devil? Death, can be explain (by the way Cat it ain't a tear jerker) the Tower also, but the nurse... I felt Tanaka was a better Devil than her. Naoto shouldn't have had the fortune one, or at least being handled better.

But all this hate about Ai ressemble my dislike for the Emperor Arcana in 3 (male route). I really wanted to tell him he was a jerk to everybody, but since you have to become friend with him, I can do nothing except agree with him...

I really hope in 5 the reinstall the jalousy or the penalty system for the social Link. Because of the forced love route with the girls you had to be more careful, and planify your date with your friend. Also, you could easily reverse a link male or female, which added a lot more of challenge. Now, since only Ai can be reverse (and only two time), I feel that the social link are a bit more easy to manage as long as you answer the "right answer" and I wish the return of this challenge.
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Well given the idea, I guess it can be heartwrenching for people who think of it like, you've spent your life with this person, you love them and they completely forgot about you. (Although exactly why her husband seems to be dying of Alzheimer is beyond me... Alzheimer doesn't actually kill people)

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I dunno, I hated being forced into a love route with all the girls. I do not condone bigami or anything like it. If you're in a relationship, you damn well stay monogamous, otherwise, you have no freaking right to be in a relationship. I liked P4 much more, where I could pick between going the Romance or Friend route with the girls. And really, some of them are pretty nice in Friend route, rather than Romance.

I just hope that if P5 has Social Links, it again gives me the option for Romance or Friend. Then, if I want to date more than one person (not saying gender in case the protagonist can be either OR they actually give me a potential sam-sex relationship with another) they can have the jealousy points in it.

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I'm fine with the jealousy system unless they want to play a game where every romance is totally ok with that it makes sense.

However they need jealousy system + option to remain friends.

That was the problem with the previous games romances
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I'm just hoping that in P5 the social links get acknowledged in places other than the ending. Nothing felt weirder than Rise constantly flirting with the MC while he's been dating Chie for weeks.
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I'm just hoping that in P5 the social links get acknowledged in places other than the ending. Nothing felt weirder than Rise constantly flirting with the MC while he's been dating Chie for weeks.


Rise flirts with the MC regardless of whether you even pursue a social link with her. That's just...who she is... :ron:
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Death, can be explain (by the way Cat it ain't a tear jerker)


Well given the idea, I guess it can be heartwrenching for people who think of it like, you've spent your life with this person, you love them and they completely forgot about you. (Although exactly why her husband seems to be dying of Alzheimer is beyond me... Alzheimer doesn't actually kill people)

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I really hope in 5 the reinstall the jalousy or the penalty system for the social Link. Because of the forced love route with the girls you had to be more careful, and planify your date with your friend.


I dunno, I hated being forced into a love route with all the girls. I do not condone bigami or anything like it. If you're in a relationship, you damn well stay monogamous, otherwise, you have no freaking right to be in a relationship. I liked P4 much more, where I could pick between going the Romance or Friend route with the girls. And really, some of them are pretty nice in Friend route, rather than Romance.

I just hope that if P5 has Social Links, it again gives me the option for Romance or Friend. Then, if I want to date more than one person (not saying gender in case the protagonist can be either OR they actually give me a potential sam-sex relationship with another) they can have the jealousy points in it.

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He could also just died because of being old. But, I said it was not a tear jerker, but heartwrenching is clearly the best word for this social link. (Event happening in my real life right now so I just feel sad about it.)

I didn't meant having multiple girlfriend and the polygamy (hated to be forced too btw) when I meant the jalousy system, maybe the penalty system more. Like in P3 if you decided to not commit to your promise to hang out with somebody (whoever they are) they go reverse. In one of my game I decided to change plans and hang out with Yukari instead of Bebe during the week-en because it's link was suprisingly stronger and I just needed to talk to him the next day and when you max out when you have a committement well they just cancel when sunday comes... He didn't took it very well. Also, I like the fact that you could easily reverse or even broke your link after multiple bad choices, when in 4 you actually just lose points and make the relationship quest longer. So yeah, we should be able to hang out with our friend during week end (summer vacation excluded).
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P3's Hanged Man was a bit weird if you played the female route. If you maxed it out and talked with the father at the end of the game, he sort-of-not-really-that-sounded-wrong-I-didn't-mean-it-like-that proposes you to marry him so Maiko will love coming back home to dad and seeing you, the Onee-san/stepmother... that was weird.

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P3's Emperor route was pretty funny. The "right" answers (i.e. the ones that give you the most points toward advancing your Rank) are to agree with his hardass attitude, then at the end he goes "I guess I've been going about things the wrong way all along...and you're the one who showed me that." Yep, I pointed out your faults by being your yes-man.
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Well...fudgecicles, there's another text-based puzzle I need to solve somehow. It wouldn't have been so bad if it hadn't been for the fact that I have to walk around in those pitch-black rooms with those creepy girl ghosts while trying to figure it all out.

There's are four rooms all linked together with one switch each in the middle. The only hint I have (at least that I've been able to understand) is that switch 1 and 2 are "black to white" while switch 3 and 4 are "white to black", which is odd, considering those "switches" are just tiles in the floor, and nothing indicates color. There IS a light switch which makes the godforsaken girls go away and dimly lights up the rooms, and I'm sure it's essential in solving the puzzle. More than likely, I have to press two switches with the lights on, and two with the lights off. I just have to figure out which number is which and how to walk around, seeing as those infernal girls keep blocking your way.

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Cause it has the "Persona" name.

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So, whenever I open my Anime image folder or my Persona image folder I see this image. Hope you guys like it~! <3

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Wonder why they always make people like Yukiko into yanderes

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So, whenever I open my Anime image folder or my Persona image folder I see this image. Hope you guys like it~! <3

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Nnnnnyaahh It's like something from corpse party :ron:
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Wonder why they always make people like Yukiko into yanderes

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Makes them more interesting?
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So, whenever I open my Anime image folder or my Persona image folder I see this image. Hope you guys like it~! <3

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Oh great. Did she have another accident while making boxed lunches?
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So, whenever I open my Anime image folder or my Persona image folder I see this image. Hope you guys like it~! <3

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Oh great. Did she have another accident while making boxed lunches?


I see that instead.

"Can you wait a minute? The inn's cook tried to intefere with my cooking and I have to clean his mess."


I just saw the box art for Arena Ultimax, and I have to say two things.

1. They really tried to make us believe that there is a lot of playable character, because for a moment I really thought there was.

2. I wished the had the art where aigis and Yu fight rather than this fanservice of Yu and his open shirt.
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Wonder why they always make people like Yukiko into yanderes

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Makes them more interesting?


While I will not deny that Yukiko's SLink is boring (and a waste of time), she is not an overall boring person. Plus, you don't have to make someone a yandere (whether fanart or fanon) to make them interesting. She's designed after a yamato nadeshiko. Yeah they're demure and all, but if you threaten something dear to them (friends, home, family, loved ones, etc) they'll start kicking ass.
Just that most people forget that last part.

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I'm glad you said that. I really feel like I'm one of the few people who actually thought she was interesting during the story. Her social link was meh, but really, I think a lot of the party members suffered from that. Chie, I feel, was a very interesting character, but her social link didn't do much either other than establish that she hated bugs. I think the only time Chie and Yukiko's social links were interesting was when they talked about each other because it established more of their back story.

A little of a tangent, but I had picked up the P4 artbook last year, and I found it funny that it mentions that Yosuke and Chie dye their hair. However, if you look at the anime, it seems to be implied that Chie's hair color is her natural, as she had it as a little girl. Unless she was dying it when she was like 7 years old. Atlus, if you're trying to go for realism here though, then why is Yu's hair naturally gray and the P3 protagonist's hair blue? Let's not even start on Fuuka's hair...
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Well there is that fun little fan theory that Fuuka is or used to be suffering from cancer and she's actually wearing a wig, which explains why her hair looks so un-fitting to her headform and all. As for Chie having her hair bleached/dyed at age 7, eh, that can't be too far off... sure it was a manga, but it was mentioned that a third grade had done Chappa - ie bleached his hair to a brown color, rather than regular black. So I guess maybe Chie COULD've done so, too, even if she'd be in like 2nd grade at age 7.

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Discussing the logic of anime hair are we? Oh dear.


What, we have a thread dedicated to talk about Dahlia's actual haircolor, why is it weird to talk about hair colors for characters in another game?

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Discussing the logic of anime hair are we? Oh dear.


What, we have a thread dedicated to talk about Dahlia's actual haircolor, why is it weird to talk about hair colors for characters in another game?

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I'm glad you said that. I really feel like I'm one of the few people who actually thought she was interesting during the story. Her social link was meh, but really, I think a lot of the party members suffered from that. Chie, I feel, was a very interesting character, but her social link didn't do much either other than establish that she hated bugs. I think the only time Chie and Yukiko's social links were interesting was when they talked about each other because it established more of their back story.

A little of a tangent, but I had picked up the P4 artbook last year, and I found it funny that it mentions that Yosuke and Chie dye their hair. However, if you look at the anime, it seems to be implied that Chie's hair color is her natural, as she had it as a little girl. Unless she was dying it when she was like 7 years old. Atlus, if you're trying to go for realism here though, then why is Yu's hair naturally gray and the P3 protagonist's hair blue? Let's not even start on Fuuka's hair...


And nobody question Yukari magic growing hair... I think Atlus didn't bother telling everything to the studio that made the anime.. or it just fall in the "nobody care" category that a lot of entertaining media have these day.


The problem I had with Chie, a bit with Yukiko (and A LOT with Naoto) is that they never really deepened their problem established by their shadow's. We see that Chie is dependent on Yukiko because she feel weak and worthless without her, thus taking a protective/controling persona when it come to her. I never felt that her social link tried to tackle the problem... Same thing for Yukiko, she's someone who in reality yearn for freedom, but can't find the courage or even the will to actually DO something about it, thus her shadow wanting someone to "save her". While the social link started well on the matter (she's trying to become independant) the rest is really just below average. In a sense I feel like Yukiko's social link is a reenactment of the Fortune social link in Persona 3. While it make a lot of sense in the fortune one (fighting against destiny and then accept it) I felt that the link was a bit weak with the priestess arcana (wisdom, hidden potential and patience) that Yukiko is representing...
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Oh great. Did she have another accident while making boxed lunches?


I'm fairly sure this is based off the rumor that Yukiko was supposed to be the killer. Of course, "X was gonna be the killer in an early version" is the most overused rumor.
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Her hair grows different lengths?

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