It shows how crazy he is that he left it all up to pure you-know-what especially on the highest difficulty.

Also put a spoiler tag on your post Baka

Mine? Why? It doesn't spoil anything.

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So it's a spoiler since it's in game and the game is fairly new.

...lack of context. Also, it's a game that revolves around people killing each other on an island. It'd be kind of a surprise if something stupid insane like wouldn't be involved.

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Still doesn't matter. A spoiler is a spoiler especially when it comes to in-game content that wasn't released in the trailer.

hrmmmmmmmmm I'm going to go ahead and spoiler tag it. It's true that it's not a major plot spoiler and there's no context, but the discussion and comments also made it pretty clear who did it and what the result was. (Of course, what the result is going to be is incredibly obvious in-game, but that's beside the point.) On top of that, while it's a game about a bunch of kids killing each other, the thing in question is a bit different from outright murder. The fact is that it's nowhere in promo materials, it's in the second half of the game, and the game just (officially) came out in English. It's definitely on the verge of whether it should be spoiler tagged or not, but I think it's better to err on the side of caution when it comes to tagging things.

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Um... psycho actually fits here.

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Well considering Komaeda...



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My thoughts exactly, Cat. There's understanding an anti-hero or anti-villain, and then there's strange apologists. Like, there's seriously Hans and Azula and Malfoy apologists out there. It's weird.

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The Japanese VA for Ibuki has such a lovely voice when she sings.

Ibuki Mioda's VA singing the theme to one of my the most prominent shoujo-ai shows ever? AWESOME. Also, this totally in no way supports my yuri pairings involving Ibuki, but I will pretend that it does.

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Its a very catchy song that i stumbled upon when I was listening to the DR2 OST on YT which I don't regret because I love the song especially now that I have it in mp3 format on my iphone haha. I love Ibuki's character alot in the game, she is right there on my top 5 list which is

1.Gundam
2Komaeda
3.Ibuki
4.Nanami
5.Nekomaru

My favorites of the second game are...

1. Ibuki
2. Hiyoko
3. Peko
4. Tsumiki
5. Nanami

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Peko would be number 4 on my list tied with Nanami. If I had to edit my list with ties then it would be

1.Gundam&Komaeda
2.Ibuki
3.Peko&Nanami
4.Nekomaru
5. Hiyoko

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Well so far DR3 has only been teased just by name mention at the end of the trailer for Danganronpa:Another episode plus also the creators still have not come up with how they gonna have DR3 play out so we are just gonna have to wait and see what will happen.

Yep. Until then, Ibuki for best character. I honestly wonder if I'll ever feel that feeling topped in the near future. I only like a few characters/games this much. Like Lei Fang, huge fan of her despite how she's constantly downplayed and had her somewhat less-sexist story be retconned into something more "mainstream" and tsundere-y despite the fact she was one of the first three (four, if you unlock Ayane) main characters in the game.

Also, something just hit me.



Also, there could be the possibility that the third game is

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I don't think that will be the plot of DR3 because if that was the case then the game would completely turn into a prequel and not a sequel of DR2

It's always a possibility. I'm hoping for a female protagonist, but given the gender gap in the industry, that might be a pipe dream.

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Knowing the ending of something never stopped people before from watching or playing or even creating a movie/game out of it. Crisis Core revolves around Zack Fair and anyone who knows something about Final Fantasy VII, knows that things won't end well for him. People watch movies like Titanic or Romeo and Juliette and still decide to do so, although it's obvious how things'll end there.

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Well actually we already are gonna be having a female protagonist in the series. In Danganronpa:Another Episode you actually play Naegi's little sister and Fukawa/Genocider.

True, but it'd be hard to not have darkness-induced apathy considering that you're going into it knowing this specific ending you're going to get. It'd be like if a movie (within the first few minutes) introduces a nameless little girl that is super ~speshul n purrre snoflayke~ doing anything, you know she's probably dead within the next few minutes if it's a movie about monsters, gangsters, or something else dark. Extra predictability points if "you are my sunshine" is playing, which might as well be the signature on any given character's death warrant.



I meant for the main series, but I totally forgot about this. Yeah, this game is looking exciting on a few levels. It doesn't look super-action-y (like I think some people are expecting DMC or Bayonetta for action games these days), but this seems more adventure/puzzle-like, much akin to Mega Man Legends or Legend of Zelda.

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I like the fact that the game is different and interesting. I always like when a game tries to do something different and original compared to the games that are out their now.

Im hoping that we can get a female protagonist as well for DR3 since its different and i'm tired of playing the male over and over in any series.

Yeah. I have to admit, having another super pale skin-and-bones male with odd hair (and more detail compared to background characters) wearing almost all black in Persona 5's trailer was... super disappointing. I mean, they at least manage to make them look somewhat different in SMT IV and DeSu2. Even though it's still basically the same.

And yeah, I don't know if it'll be... successful or not. There's a possibility it'll suck. However, I'm glad that they look like they're at least trying when developing the game. Plus, I've liked games that weren't as popular. Haunting Grounds. The entire Clock Tower series. Heck, I like some games that objectively weren't that great (looking at you, Phantom Hourglass).

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That was one of my main concerns with DR2 was that certain relationships in the game weren't that developed well enough except for one but that was deep into ch 4.

I never played the Clock Tower series but I have recently started getting into Fatal Frame. I love the game because its the first time I ever been scared of a horror game in my life except for RE4 back when it first came out and I played it 2am in the morning. I just want more games to be original like JP games are compared to the same types of games we always get here in the west now that everything is some COD knock off

I wouldn't say "everything", but shovelware will always exist, and will always play "follow the leader".

Clock Tower is a GREAT series. Like, it's all the anxiety of not being able to defend yourself, with some moments of being able to defend yourself. Like in The Spirits Within, you have Alyssa and her alter ego Banes. Alyssa can use escape points (some of which are infinite) and can hide, while Banes can use guns (therefore eliminating back-tracking). Clock Tower 3 (which is fourth in the series, the first game never made it to the US) has Alyssa (no relation) who hides most of the game, but actually has boss battles where you're using a magic bow and arrow. Funny thing is, you don't "fight" in the usual sense of "shoot 'em with your magnum" like in Resident Evil. You can do only so much damage with the normal shot. You gotta run, find a spot to fight from, charge, and use charged shots to pin the enemy. Pin the enemy three times, and you can use a super shot which OHKO's the first two bosses, and does heavy damage to each boss after that. It's basically what I imagine what it'd be like if you had a Doctor Who game that isn't pure adventure like the current ones.

And yeah, I think Japan's more apt to take risks than we are when it comes to creative designs? I've noticed the West takes more risks with pushing how much violence, sex, and drugs can be included. Hence why most Western heroes and heroines look exactly the same while Japanese/European heroes and heroines tend to have more variety. This is why we get cool VN's like Dangan Ronpa, Zero Escape, Layton, Ace Attorney, and the like.

In the west? We might get a Myst or a Device 6 every once in a while.


Also, I like that Dangan Ronpa has a more fleshed out cast of female characters. Like...

Dangan Ronpa 1:


Devil Survivor 1:
- Yuzu: She's female. She has boobs. That's her character. Oh, and she is illiterate and loves the protag. Next.
- Amane: Shrine maiden. She's... shrine maiden. And he wants to protect her dad. Next.
- Mari: The motherly teacher character. She is in love with Keita's brother, and then Keita. She has boobs. Next.
- Midori: Admittedly, she's one of my favorite characters from this small series. She's got the most character development, she isn't just a slobbering love interest, and she actually goes out there and does stuff on her own with some success. Her only character flaw is a lack of self-awareness, and learns to help people while not scaring the crap out of them.
- Izaya: The most under-utilized character of the game. She's one of the most compelling, knowing much about the government shut-down and wanting the task to succeed with the least amount of deaths. However, she's also by-the-books, and is a very honorable character in her dedication.

The rest are dudes. All of them. Females are in the extreme minority. We've got two well-developed characters in the entire game. So let's handicap DR and have DeSu 1 AND 2.

DeSu2:
- Io: She's female. She has boobs. She loves the protag. She also cries a lot and is a conduit for power, as opposed to someone having power themselves.
- Ari: She's tsundere, petulant, spoiled (very gendered traits) and apparently good on the piano.
- Hinako: Complains about being cold, she dances, and she has a virulent friendship with Ari. Nothing much there.
- Fumi: One of the only females who have a sense of agency in the game, doing things for herself, and is someone beyond her super-sexualized body. She also goes through the possession trope (which tends to happen to women more than men... hm...), but she's shown to be capable.
- Makoto: Basically Izaya, but distilled to BUT MY DUTY. I HAVE DOUBTS. BUT DUTY.
- Otome: I like her character as well, as she's a very well-developed character who struggles to balance her child and her work, both of which are important to her. It's a shame she doesn't get as much development time as Seichii or Joe.

I count two more here.

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Skin and bones? That's called lean and lank. And it's a cultural difference - Japan is more inclined to pretty boys, where as the West sees men and even male teens more muscular and similar. Which, in Japan, is more seen as a stereotype for gay men. (In America, technically, as well for "the bear")







Actually, even if I don't really hate or like Yuzu, she's the No 1 relateable, normal character in the cast. I know people say that Honda is supposed to fulfill the role of "normal person locked inside lockdown and slowly going insane", but doesn't work there cause he's not relateable for the average player.
Yuzu is this much more. She's just a normal teenager who enjoys the normal things like going shopping, talking with friends and similar. She doesn't like the situation she's in and would much rather have nothing to do with it, but will do some things if necessary. (But will leave if you are on Kaido or Naoya's path)



Also, Io is very concerned about losing friends or pissing people off, so she rather chooses to not voice her opinion. You know, kind of the Yamato Nadeshiko route, especially considering that, when she does find something to protect (like her friends, family, loved ones, etc) she is willing to go through with things.

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PS: Her name is Izuna...

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Yeah, I will admit that while Kirigiri isn't a sue, she definitely is more of a tool and a plot device than a character. I'd honestly like to see her character more explored, but sadly, she never has been.

I will argue that Yuzu cannot be normal, due to being a stereotype. Everything seems to be "ohmigosh" or "I am sooo flustered omigosh" or "I am vulnerable MC, please comfort me". If you replaced her with an dog that needs to poop a lot, there would be no tangible change in the storyline.

And maybe I am too harsh on Io, but most of her character is defined in meekness, and most of her characteristics are "female", and not really her own. She has a fear of losing people, but that never really becomes something she'd really be afraid of until later in the game, when she does lose someone.



No, I get that. I find myself more inclined to like the androgynous male (so many confused feelings with Hideyoshi from Baka & Test), but the thing is not that I dislike feminine men, I just am sorta... troped out when it comes to that trope and the SMT series. If I'm not getting a FeMC as the main MC (and not just othered in "oh you can be female, too"), I'd at least like to have some variance. Maybe he doesn't look like he's a rejected XXXHolic character, maybe he's got broader shoulders. Maybe he isn't super tall, and instead is short. I just am really tired of the can-literally-do-everything-blank-slate-whom-everyone-loves who's all slender and tall.



Also, thanks for the correction. No idea where I got "Izaya" from... I think I've heard my friends use that name before.

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Well considering that SMT protagonist TEND to be the Silent Protagonist, of course they have to be good looking and great at everything. Why should I put myself into the place of a guy who isn't all that good looking and seems to suck at things?
Ok, I personally never put myself into the protagonist's place, but I'm saying it for those who do.

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True. I just suppose it's starting to go the way of basically any given protag in the west. Except instead of lantern-jawed white male, it's slender, perfect-haired Japanese males. Which, I mean... you can do better, Japan. See me after class, and we'll discuss your grades.

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Damn it's been almost 2 weeks and I'm still on Ch4 of DR2. No it's not because it's hard it's because I'm prolonging the game as much as possible by only playing on my bus and train rides to work.

That's part of why I haven't kept up-to-date on the mysteries. I've forgotten a lot of the details of how things are solved and done, so that'll leave me with a relatively more fresh experience.

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I only spoiled the outcome of the cases but I never spoil the entire case that way I can still enjoy the game to the fullest.

Maybe that's why I began to lose my patience with the game... I finished it within a week because of the LP and just kept recording sessions of 30 - 45 minutes, or the class trials in one case, with a few hours of break in between... guess I was just feeling sick of the game...

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Could it also be because you spoiled it a lot from wiki and from my avatars and talking about it