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Re: Ace Attorney 6 - Official JP site open, TGS details

Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:39 pm

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Gyakuten$aiban wrote:

Is it possible to dump the graphics from the site, particularly Phoenix's picture and the logo?

http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutensaiban/ ... _title.png
http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutensaiban/ ... odo_01.png
This? (Took a little digging to find this)

Re: Ace Attorney 6 - Official JP site open, TGS details

Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:41 pm

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Yeah, that's the ticket.

I couldn't figure out how their layering was working. It looked like it was loading them just as standard images (so no crazy scripting involved) but the CSS didn't bear that out so I got lost.

EDIT: Hey, cool, I figured out how it works too using the "Inspect Element" feature of Firefox (I had tried this before to draw out the images but didn't realize you could drill down into the blocks of code to expand them and break the page down further).

Spoiler:

Re: Ace Attorney 6 - Official JP site open, TGS details

Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:11 pm

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That's how I did it! :gant-clap:

Re: Ace Attorney 6 - Official JP site open, TGS details

Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:16 pm

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On http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/115/1115408/, there's this screen:

Spoiler:

I don't think we've actually seen the bottom screen for the water mirror scenes, so that's interesting to see! I wonder what this big space on the bottom screen may be for...

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:31 pm

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That big space is obviously an area to use to steer a cursor on the top screen using touch controls. It seems silly, but it works remarkably well.

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:54 pm

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henke37 wrote:

That big space is obviously an area to use to steer a cursor on the top screen using touch controls. It seems silly, but it works remarkably well.

Yeah, but the question is: What would that be used for?

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:59 pm

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Spinda wrote:

henke37 wrote:

That big space is obviously an area to use to steer a cursor on the top screen using touch controls. It seems silly, but it works remarkably well.

Yeah, but the question is: What would that be used for?

To choose one of the statements?

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:00 pm

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Since one of the buttons says "Present", maybe you move the cursor over one of the 3 expressions then present a piece of evidence that contradicts it?

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:14 pm

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Or maybe one of the things in the upper screen contradicts the statement in the lower screen and you have to pick which one (you know, like the overload mode of the Mood Matrix).

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:20 pm

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But couldn't they have just done it like the Mood Matrix if it's overflowing? Doing it like that seems kinda overcomplicated.

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:37 pm

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Honestly it already sorta feels like the Mood Matrix reworked.

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:16 pm

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Gyakuten$aiban wrote:

Honestly it already sorta feels like the Mood Matrix reworked.

I actually have that impression too.

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Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:29 pm

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Visually, at least. The MM didn't have moments where you presented an argument and actually are in danger of getting penalized for a wrong answer. Almost every time つきつける shows up, it's presenting an argument that will be held accountable. But since it only says つきつける, we can't be sure if it's referring to presenting evidence or is more akin to pointing at the screen and identifying the contradiction.

And speaking of that contradiction, I do wonder... I assume, based on the screenshot alone, that image in the mirror is what Bokto can recall. However, I figure it only shows one part of his story. The rest will need to be cleared up. In that case, would "the boy's voice" refer to his voice or another's?

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:23 am

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

Visually, at least. The MM didn't have moments where you presented an argument and actually are in danger of getting penalized for a wrong answer. Almost every time つきつける shows up, it's presenting an argument that will be held accountable. But since it only says つきつける, we can't be sure if it's referring to presenting evidence or is more akin to pointing at the screen and identifying the contradiction.

I can't remember what the button said for the mood matrix... Was it つきとめる?
Jus' looked it up and it was. So if "Present" leads to potential penalties maybe this is what they're doing to adress people saying DD was too easy. I just hope for free roam in investigations. I didn't like being spoon fed and guided to only examine relevant things. I wan't more irrelevant and funny dialogue!

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:35 am

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SuperAj3 wrote:

I just hope for free roam in investigations. I didn't like being spoon fed and guided to only examine relevant things. I wan't more irrelevant and funny dialogue!

Yeah, that's probably my biggest gripe with the game. That, and them literally telling the answer before making you guess.
I didn't mind too much the fact that you don't get penalties from the Mood Matrix...

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:47 am

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Nurio wrote:

SuperAj3 wrote:

I just hope for free roam in investigations. I didn't like being spoon fed and guided to only examine relevant things. I wan't more irrelevant and funny dialogue!

Yeah, that's probably my biggest gripe with the game. That, and them literally telling the answer before making you guess.
I didn't mind too much the fact that you don't get penalties from the Mood Matrix...

I hope they mix the classic and DD style investigations together for this one. I love being able to examine every environment I'm in (it's probably the place where the characters have the more subtle character development) but I also love the point-and-click style "moving around" investigation they did in DD. It wouldn't make sense (from both a development and difficulty perspective) to have the DD-style examinations in every location, but I think it would be great to have the classic GS1-4 examination for non-essential locations and the DD-style examination for crime scenes and other important areas.

It didn't bother me that much, but I do think they need to stop that "telling you the answer" for the next one, as its the number one criticism I hear of the game. While I generally either find cross-examinations in all the games to be DD-easy or extremely hard with no real in-between, I think them giving such strong hints hurts the experience and makes the game feel even more "linear" than it already is. I don't mind basically reading an animated AA book, but they can probably cut out a lot of the hints (or make them optional) and people will appreciate it.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:54 am

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Well, they say you can turn off hints in this one, and I'm glad because it was pretty ridículos in DD.

I replayed 1-2 the other day and, just to say an example, there was this contradiction when White says that the victim ran to the left, but she ran to the right according to May's testimony.

So, when you press that statement, Maya says something like 'there's something odd here'. Okay. That's a hint.

If it had been DD, Athena would have said before even starting the Cross-examination: 'the victim ran to the left? Tha doesn't sound like what Ms. May tesfied.' That's not a hint. That's saying the answer.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:27 pm

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D.A. McCoy wrote:

I hope they mix the classic and DD style investigations together for this one. I love being able to examine every environment I'm in (it's probably the place where the characters have the more subtle character development) but I also love the point-and-click style "moving around" investigation they did in DD. It wouldn't make sense (from both a development and difficulty perspective) to have the DD-style examinations in every location, but I think it would be great to have the classic GS1-4 examination for non-essential locations and the DD-style examination for crime scenes and other important areas.

Yeah, I think that's the best solution. Aside from it being too much on development and difficulty, it might also be just cumbersome for the player to be able to see every location from like 4 angles. That's a lot to look at!

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:29 pm

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Nurio wrote:

D.A. McCoy wrote:

I hope they mix the classic and DD style investigations together for this one. I love being able to examine every environment I'm in (it's probably the place where the characters have the more subtle character development) but I also love the point-and-click style "moving around" investigation they did in DD. It wouldn't make sense (from both a development and difficulty perspective) to have the DD-style examinations in every location, but I think it would be great to have the classic GS1-4 examination for non-essential locations and the DD-style examination for crime scenes and other important areas.

Yeah, I think that's the best solution. Aside from it being too much on development and difficulty, it might also be just cumbersome for the player to be able to see every location from like 4 angles. That's a lot to look at!

We should at least be able to investigate Charley.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:51 pm

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Oliver wrote:

Nurio wrote:

D.A. McCoy wrote:

I hope they mix the classic and DD style investigations together for this one. I love being able to examine every environment I'm in (it's probably the place where the characters have the more subtle character development) but I also love the point-and-click style "moving around" investigation they did in DD. It wouldn't make sense (from both a development and difficulty perspective) to have the DD-style examinations in every location, but I think it would be great to have the classic GS1-4 examination for non-essential locations and the DD-style examination for crime scenes and other important areas.

Yeah, I think that's the best solution. Aside from it being too much on development and difficulty, it might also be just cumbersome for the player to be able to see every location from like 4 angles. That's a lot to look at!

We should at least be able to investigate Charley.

THIS.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:56 pm

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I mean...Shoe actually works for Charley....did you know that Charley is a... *puts on sunglasses* plant?

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:58 pm

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Oliver wrote:

Nurio wrote:

D.A. McCoy wrote:

I hope they mix the classic and DD style investigations together for this one. I love being able to examine every environment I'm in (it's probably the place where the characters have the more subtle character development) but I also love the point-and-click style "moving around" investigation they did in DD. It wouldn't make sense (from both a development and difficulty perspective) to have the DD-style examinations in every location, but I think it would be great to have the classic GS1-4 examination for non-essential locations and the DD-style examination for crime scenes and other important areas.

Yeah, I think that's the best solution. Aside from it being too much on development and difficulty, it might also be just cumbersome for the player to be able to see every location from like 4 angles. That's a lot to look at!

We should at least be able to investigate Charley.

After this many games I think we're entitled to have Charley as a playable character. He's a bit green but he his roots stem from the office and I don't think the gameplay would be watered-down at all. But then again if he doesn't do very well he could soil the office's reputation.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:01 pm

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It will be a bit difficult convincing the plane staff that Charley doesn't deserve a seat in the luggage department, but nothing is impossible for Phoenix Wright. This is for the future of civil rights for all plantkind.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:08 pm

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Perhaps that's what his special mission is about.

(......Ack! I've run out of snide comments!)

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:12 pm

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Charley for assistant confirmed? (✪ω✪)

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:15 pm

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Yes. Yes, please.

"What do you think about this, Charley?"
"..."
"Yeah, you're right. I should figure it out myself..."

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:24 pm

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Phoenix: "Charley, who do you think is the killer?"
Charley: "..."
Phoenix: "Ah-ah, gotcha! Mr Dot Dot Dot, you're screwed"

Gregory... Tomorrow, I'm heading towards that fateful place with your son. To find out the truth of 18 years ago...

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:34 am

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Is everyone gonna ignore my "Charley is a plant" joke?

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:23 am

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Come now. Everyone knows Charley is no joke. He's well respected member of Capcom's PR department, and even has his own blog on the official GS fan site. Unfortunately, he only speaks through his assistant, Maiko, so we have never once seen him write anything.

...I'm not completely kidding, guys.

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:25 am

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

Come now. Everyone knows Charley is no joke. He's well respected member of Capcom's PR department, and even has his own blog on the official GS fan site. Unfortunately, he only speaks through his assistant, Maiko, so we have never once seen him write anything.

...I'm not completely kidding, guys.

....Give me a link. I NEED to see this. Or I'll die.

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:12 am

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http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/gyakuten/?redirect_stop=1

You would need an account with Capcom to see everything, but I believe the latest entries out of each section is viewable without signing in. That said, you would also need to understand Japanese to even read anything, so... :p Anyway, the one with the picture of Charley is his blog.

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:33 am

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I'll just use the most trustworthy translation. Google Translate! :meekins:

"Simple is best! This is the guy I!" Of course you are...

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:22 pm

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Oliver wrote:

I'll just use the most trustworthy translation. Google Translate! :meekins:

"Simple is best! This is the guy I!" Of course you are...

Now I really wanna see a Charley that speaks like a bad Google translate translation. He could have... messages written on his leaves or something.

(......Ack! I've run out of snide comments!)

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:23 pm

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Going for Miles wrote:

Oliver wrote:

I'll just use the most trustworthy translation. Google Translate! :meekins:

"Simple is best! This is the guy I!" Of course you are...

Now I really wanna see a Charley that speaks like a bad Google translate translation. He could have... messages written on his leaves or something.

Capcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcom, get on it.

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Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:51 am

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Is it me, or does Phoenix actually look older and more mature in his official art than he does in DD?

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Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:53 am

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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:

Is it me, or does Phoenix actually look older and more mature in his official art than he does in DD?

He does. It's CONFIRMED AND S**T!

Actually...I wonder if Edgey will appear here....no, I bet it'll finally be Franzy. Interpol, be useful for once.

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Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:14 am

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Yeah, I like that his look is still changing a bit.

Hopefully we get a 60 year old graying Phoenix at some point! (I'm only have joking!)

I used to have Sam Waterston as my avatar but photobucket added a watermark and also Law & Order has been cancelled for 10 years so it's time for me to move on.

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Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:41 am

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Calling it: 60-year-old Phoenix will look even younger than he does now.

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Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:14 am

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

Calling it: 60-year-old Phoenix will look even younger than he does now.

I want Phoenix to look like Tom Selleck when he's older.

~~And maybe drive a Ferrari and steal California's water, too.~~

In all seriousness, I love seeing heroes age. I have no idea why. Indiana Jones, Solid Snake, Han Solo in The Force Awakens; I like seeing these young, fearless characters return for unfinished business as a different person than we knew before. I feel like AJ did a little bit of that with Phoenix, but I'd love to just not get any more Phoenix-centric stories (in regards to plot, not playablilty - for instance I wouldn't call DD a Phoenix-centric story) and then have a game where he's getting too old to do this anymore (which in the AA universe would probably be like 40) and have him do it one last time to wrap things up.

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Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:21 am

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/gyakuten/?redirect_stop=1

You would need an account with Capcom to see everything, but I believe the latest entries out of each section is viewable without signing in. That said, you would also need to understand Japanese to even read anything, so... :p Anyway, the one with the picture of Charley is his blog.

That's kinda cute, a plant running his own blog. ~~And great reading practice.~~