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"Yeah that didn't really 'click,' you know? There's so much stuff unexplained. I mean, clearly Subaru was lying in parts of his testimony, but..." Van trails off.

"So, what's with the black smudge on the stairs? Who triggered the stair trap and where were they before they did? Clearly not downstairs, in the water, right? What's the source of the paint that Charlie smelled after the body discovery? Who did Jay hear in the art room? Subaru couldn't have done that, right?"

"I mean, naturally, I don't feel good about any of this."
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Crimson clenches her fists, an anxious expression on her face.

"No, I can't accept this! I actually got to know Subaru for myself...he's just misunderstood, damn it! He can't be the killer...that would be too obvious, right?!"

Crimson looks at Subaru with an angry yet pleading look.

"Go ahead, tell them all it was a prank already!"
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SiRReN hugged herself, sinking more and more into herself as the trial progressed.

Did I...did I really almost go and meet the killer by myself? she wondered. She was tired, and scared, and anxious for everything to be normal again. But things would never be normal, not until Monokuma was satisfied with his game. And even for the few who survived, their lives would be changed forever.

"Subaru," she whispered. "Surely you didn't, not really. Van is right, what about the paint on the step? How did Subaru get rid of the paint - water bottles in the cafe? I didn't notice anything out of place, but could he have tidied up in there? He was there by himself until Van and I showed up at 04:00, plenty of time to use bottles of water to clean up and put things away."
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"Well then, once 10 9 of you are ready to vote, we can move on from this and get to the punishment!"

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"B-But if you still want to discuss things, that's fine too!" Monomi added.
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"W-Would Subaru lie about this..?" Ryuji wondered.
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"That part, I've come up with an explanation for..." said Arthur. "But... it's highly irregular. "

"I disagree, slightly, with Flo's interpretation of events, although our conclusion is ultimately the same. Here's how i think it went."

"Subaru walks past Matt at around 3 AM, and encounters Karega. They walk into the classroom, and Subaru engages in combat with Karega, where he gets the defensive wound on his hand, but is ultimately able to subdue Karega. But he doesn't plan on having to kill her, so he had to think quickly. He uses paint that is in the classroom to paint the 'A', and then press the paint on the corpse, getting some on himself in the process. "

"He then walks out of the classroom and encounters SiRReN, and makes up the story about the shambling man. In order to wash the incriminating paint off of himself, he quickly suggests that they meet in the cafe, where the last remaining supply of cold water remained: bottled water. He goes there ahead of SiRReN, and begins to clean himself, and stays there until Van and SiRReN meets him there at 4 AM. He says he sensed a death (which is, funnily enough, literally true), and the three go to the classroom to investigate. Either Subaru fails to clean himself entirely, or there is still the scent of paint on him, which Charlie smells as they pass them on the way to the classroom. They then rediscover Karega's corpse in the classroom. Subaru investigates the cafe afterwards, disposing of the empty bottles. "

Arthur sighed. "This part, you've likely figured out. However, at no point could any of the people I've me mentioned thus far could've caused the blackout without being sniffed out by Charlie. This means that someone else caused the blackout..."

Arthur grimaced. "This is... uh... for lack of a better phrase, going to get weird. "

"I think that whatever Karega told Jay in the classroom... affected him, somehow. Either convinced him, or... " Arthur almost seemed to gag on the idea, "... hypnotized him... to carry the paint bucket from the classroom to the basement, trip the trap, and then die. But he failed to do so, for reasons unknown. He only triggers the trap, accidentalky spills some of the paint he was carrying and then..." Arthur says, with another grimace, "... stays there, until he hears the body announcement. He then, under his own power, but not his own mind, shuts himself in the kiln. "

"I... uh... realize this sounds a bit silly, but this is consistent with everything we know. It's... inelegant in several places, but there it is. "
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"It doesn't sound impossible," SiRReN said hesitantly. "I was thinking originally that Jay's memory loss is due to Karega having told him the 'secret' - that it was too much for his mind to grasp and so it was shut out. But what if Arthur is right, and, like Karega, Jay is different now that he has heard the secret."
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"I don't remember seeing any used water bottles in the cafe as well," SiRReN said. "Subaru didn't clean up that way, if he cleaned up at all. We looked all over the cafe and didn't see anything odd."
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Thinking about the cut still, Sakura tried her best to answer the questions despite her shock. "Th-the cut is b-bigger than a p-paper cut." She said awkwardly.
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"How big? Is it the same width as the knife or no? That's a decisive question right there.."
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"I don't know about kn-knife wounds!" Sakura cried, distraught. "I know about origami! I can't tell you anything about the c-cut other than it's too big to be from p-paper!"
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"Hmph." Subaru grabbed a dinner knife from his tailcoat's inner pocket. "This might not be a survival knife but.." he cut a nearly identical wound close to his previous one. "But this is a knife wound. And do you really think we need to wash off? We could use something as a cover from the paint..."
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[If you vote for someone, either privately or publicly, I'll take it as a sign that you're ready to vote. But you can still withdraw your vote before a majority has been reached]
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"No! A dinner knife isn't like a survival knife in width!" Matt shouted.

"For all we know you used that knife to cut your hand! Besides, you couldn't have used anything to cover the paint up! Nothing was found and nothing was hidden in the killer's bedroom.. So, how could that be?!" Sweat began to appear on Matt's forehead. It's clear he didn't think Subaru was guilty.

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"Subaru...just tell us the truth already! If you're really lying about being the murderer, you're putting everyone at risk!" Crimson yells. "We don't have time for this!"
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"Besides, all the 'we could have' responses aren't satisfying! If you were the killer, then you'd know what you did AND you'd say it considering what hell of a bind you're in right now! Why are you doing this?"
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"Who knows, maybe everything we said up until now is a lie..." Subaru suggested. "Consider this a test of sorts for future trials to come, a lesson that you can't trust anyone when it comes to murder. Try merging both of our confessions, and what we said to Ms. SiRReN and Mr. Waterfield, to reach the truth."
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"I don't know why Subaru would lie, but everything he's said about while we were together is the truth," SiRReN said. "If he's telling the truth, we vote for him and he dies, if he's lying, we lose and there's a chance he still gets killed."
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"Who knows, maybe everything we said up until now is a lie..." Subaru suggested. "Consider this a test of sorts for future trials to come, a lesson that you can't trust anyone when it comes to murder. Try merging both of our confessions, and what we said to Ms. SiRReN and Mr. Waterfield, to reach the truth."


"I don't care if it's a stupid test or not! What matters is that there are innocent people's lives at stake here and if you're lying then you're purposefully killing someone! Will you explain the inconsistencies or no?!" Matt cried out.
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"I guess you could say the door couldn't be opened from outside." Subaru sighed. "But that means either Ms. Shinda opened for us or we never entered in the first place. Work on from that."
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"There is... one final scenario in which the victim could be killed. " said Arthur. "It's... similarly insane, but it would involve the most classic solution to the locked room murder. "

"It would make Subaru the accomplice, rather than the murderer. But it's... seriously mad. It would account for the state of the body somewhat better than my first theory. But... I really think it's almost too crazy..."

"It's... possible... that the paint both disguise the weapon the killer used... and was itself the weapon. " Arthur said, shaken. "In this theory, Karega commits suicide by drinking as much paint as she can, and Subaru is responsible for disguising the suicide as murder."

"Consider this," Arthur said. "We really haven't found a compelling reason why the paint was used at all. But if the paint were also responsible for killing Karega, then it makes sense somewhat. If Karega committed suicide, pouring paint on the body not only hides the fact that the knife didn't kill Karega, but that the paint she ingested killed her. Additionally, if Subaru hadn't poured paint on the body after-the- fact, Charlie might have been able to smell the paint that Karega ingested. "

"Second, consider the state of the body- those that examined the body reported there being blood underneath her eyes, as if she had weeped them. While I have no knowledge of this paint specifically, poisoning by household toxic chemicals can increase blood pressure. A gallon of toxic paint, when ingested, might increase Karega's blood pressure to the point that the capillaries in her eyes to rupture, causing the bloody tears reported. "

"Third, it explains how Karega acted just before she died. She likely would have already drank the paint by the time she was sighted."

Arthur looked unsure. "The problem would be that the time of death wouldn't be known by Karega with certainty. She would've had to coordinate not only with Subaru, who she would need to disguise the suicide as murder, but with Jay to cause the blackout as well. It might be that the Ultimate Survivalist could have predicted an approximate time of death, but I have a hard time believing that. "

"I don't know if I like this better than my Subaru theory. Is there any way we can rule this scenario out?"
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"Woah, I can't really check that theory easily, but it explains that they wouldn't kill Jay. Also the secret to life might be something that induces suicide. I dunno if someone could keep down so much poison without throwing it up..."
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Sol stared at Subaru, dumbfounded. "W-what the hell are you doing?! Even if you didn't do it, that still means you have a greater chance of dying as an innocent! Why are you doing this?!"
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"Hmm, there must be a lot we wrongly assumed… That's why we were asked to make that list."

She turned to Arthur.

"I like that paint theory, but then that gets rid of Subaru's knife wound. And that's the only real physical thing that links this crime to him. And the A, it only really makes sense if they were planning on killing Jay and framing Alchie. The paint, wasn't it on the knife handle too? So then it was put on only after Karega had been stabbed."
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"Hm. The thing is, if we assume Subaru is lying about killing Karega, he still has that wound. Where would he have got it from, then?" Sol inquired.
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"Hm. The thing is, if we assume Subaru is lying about killing Karega, he still has that wound. Where would he have got it from, then?" Sol inquired.


Arthur shrugged. "It could have been self-inflicted-- he had to grab Karega's knife in order to stab her with it after-the-fact, possibly in the dark."
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"Hmm, possibly." He adjusts his collar. "Maybe we should also update the evidence list to account for Subaru's wound...and his 'confession'."
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"I know there's a lot unanswered, but we don't have much time. I'll hold off on voting until the very end, just in case it wasn't Subaru. But so far at least, he's the only one caught lying. And his alibi is the only one without anyone else to confirm it. Yes, even the people who said they were in their rooms weren't spotted anywhere else… which includes Cox."

She sighed the oh-so-familiar sigh.

"So like, if this situation doesn't change when voting time comes, I'll have to go with Subaru."
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"I know there's a lot unanswered, but we don't have much time. I'll hold off on voting until the very end, just in case it wasn't Subaru. But so far at least, he's the only one caught lying. And his alibi is the only one without anyone else to confirm it. Yes, even the people who said they were in their rooms weren't spotted anywhere else… which includes Cox."

She sighed the oh-so-familiar sigh.

"So like, if this situation doesn't change when voting time comes, I'll have to go with Subaru."


"I don't blame you..." said Arthur. "Still, we should make the most of the time we have left. We can still figure out the details of the murder... or perhaps more appropriately, 'killing', if we fill in the details. We know Subaru is involved in the killing, but what we don't know for sure whether or not he's the killer, or the accomplice. This is what we need to focus our effort on."

Arthur paused. "If Subaru is the killer, then we need to know why Karega let Subaru kill her. Did she let Subaru kill her? If she did, did she thought Monokuma would stop Subaru if she succeeded in killing Jay by proxy? Or is there another way Subaru was able to get the drop on the SHSL Survivalist?"
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"Okay, so what we need to do is prove it wasn't suicide right? I think Subaru, or Monokuma, tried to make things difficult by making it so that the conventional forms of logic couldn't be applied. Both Subaru and Karega were in a weird mental state. That's why we keep getting told to focus on what happened, not what we think happened or what we think the killer wanted. By the looks of it, we can't reach a logical conclusion that way. Their lines of thinking are beyond our comprehension… I say as a sociologist."
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"Okay, so what we need to do is prove it wasn't suicide right? I think Subaru, or Monokuma, tried to make things difficult by making it so that the conventional forms of logic couldn't be applied. Both Subaru and Karega were in a weird mental state. That's why we keep getting told to focus on what happened, not what we think happened or what we think the killer wanted. By the looks of it, we can't reach a logical conclusion that way. Their lines of thinking are beyond our comprehension… I say as a sociologist."


"You're right. Perhaps motive isn't the correct mode of inquiry." Arthur admitted. "Perhaps we should focus on the details-- Was the door to the classroom locked at the time that Van opened it? Where is the key now?"
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Solomon brightened at the mention of the key. "Yes! Thank you! Shall we have that rebuttal showdown now? I'm saying it's with the victim, and...someone else is going to say it's hidden in the campus. Any volunteers?"
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Solomon brightened at the mention of the key. "Yes! Thank you! Shall we have that rebuttal showdown now? I'm saying it's with the victim, and...someone else is going to say it's hidden in the campus. Any volunteers?"


"The only volunteer you're going to get is yourself. Nobody cares about the key."
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Sol groaned. "But...if the key is with the victim..! It could very well change our entire understanding of the murder!"
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"If that's so, could you explain exactly how that's going to help now?"
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"Right." Solomon nodded earnestly. "If the key is with the victim, that gives rise to a new possibility. That is, that SHE was the one who locked the door after the killer left to get something. That's the result I'm hoping to get, anyway."
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"If the key was in the room, Subaru could've left it, walked out, and lied to Van about it being locked. Or Karega could've killed herself and kept the key in the room. If it's out, then Subaru locked the door after leaving, and Van really did have to knock it down. Or Subaru took it with him after adding paint to the crime scene. So I doubt it really narrows our options."

Flo thought about everything Arthur had said until that point.

"What we don't know, is what Subaru was doing before the blackout. After the presumed murder, he quickly ran into SiRReN and also had Matt observing him. So what was he doing just before 3 am?"
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Sol rolled his eyes. "Well, fair enough then. But I still say we use another lifeline."
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