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"That makes sense, but to me it only paints more suspicion on Klifford." Benjamin crossed his arms upon hearing Seb's theory. "Why would Ciro go through the trouble of stealing it instead of asking for it? Why wouldn't Klifford mention what was stolen? Then again, if Klifford is guilty, why write down something he wanted to keep secret? But why would Ciro burn up the information if he was innocently using it for reference?"

He then remembered that this was Ciro they were talking about and suddenly felt like he was answering some of his own questions.
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Haley tilted her head like she was listening to someone. "Uh-huh? Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell 'em."

She then looked at Seb. "Nail wants you to know that you're right. There were signs that tests had been performed, but no results on said tests. Also, the medicine room had been extensively searched through. No clue what all the ransackers took. All that was left was generic painkillers."
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"Or, it was a good opportunity. For all we know, Shizune caught a cold after fallin' in the lake, the doc' noticed it and slowly poisoned her. Eventually, it would look as if she died naturally rather than poison. Although, admittedly, that would out the doc' at a disadvantage in a tribunal. Hrmm..."


"Not neccisarily dumbass, all hed have to do is create a scenario in which it didnt look like poison offed the girl, being the only doc amoung us, hed be able to say how she died without us going to the poison conclusion."
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"Actually, the crystal ball's message makes more sense now," Seb said thoughtfully. "It said Shizune was dying, and that Oliver specifically would be unable to save her. What if it meant that someone else did indeed have a way to save her: Klifford, knowing about panacea, was the only person here who did actually, at least in theory, have a way to cure Shizune.

"However, why didn't the ball predict Ciro's death? Maybe... it's because this prediction that Shizune would die is what then caused Ciro to die. This prediction is what caused Klifford to start trying to make panacea, which is what caused Ciro to find out about it and then led to his death."

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"...Crappy crystal ball," Ivan snapped. "I asked who was next to die, not who was dying."
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"Actually, the crystal ball's message makes more sense now," Seb said thoughtfully. "It said Shizune was dying, and that Oliver specifically would be unable to save her. What if it meant that someone else did indeed have a way to save her: Klifford, knowing about panacea, was the only person here who did actually, at least in theory, have a way to cure Shizune.

"However, why didn't the ball predict Ciro's death? Maybe... it's because this prediction that Shizune would die is what then caused Ciro to die. This prediction is what caused Klifford to start trying to make panacea, which is what caused Ciro to find out about it and then led to his death."


"It predicted that the next person to die would be Shizune if things went as is. Which is true, she was poisoned. Ciro then knew of a way to save her, and it made him the doc's target, because it interfered with his plan. Seems bulletproof to me, soldiers!" Daniel guffaws.
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"But... why would Klifford poison Shizune?" Brandy asked. "Even as far as the depraved things we've gone n' seen since this killin' game started, even that seems like a bit much to me."
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"...Crappy crystal ball," Ivan snapped. "I asked who was next to die, not who was dying."

"Maybe ciro wasnt supposed to die next? knowone said this damn fortune bullshit is accurate."
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"But... why would Klifford poison Shizune?" Brandy asked. "Even as far as the depraved things we've gone n' seen since this killin' game started, even that seems like a bit much to me."


"Clearly, he's a serial murderer and wants to get back to his wife or whatever. So, he slowly murdered Shizune to create a bulletproof alibi. The joys of being a single man!" He guffaws again, snickering.
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"But... why would Klifford poison Shizune?" Brandy asked. "Even as far as the depraved things we've gone n' seen since this killin' game started, even that seems like a bit much to me."

"Easy brat, remember he has a family worried about him , sooner he gets out of here the sooner hes back with his family, but the doc aint stupid and decided to do it in a way that was slow, and tough for people who dont know jack about medicine to catch."
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"Er, well, I'm not so sure about that part myself," Seb replied awkwardly. "I still think Klifford was the one trying to use panacea to cure Shizune after finding out that she was dying and there was no other cure. Then Ciro stole his research notes for some reason, one thing led to another and somehow he was killed, by someone that isn't necessarily Klifford. And probably isn't Klifford, I doubt he'd kill anyone."
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"I find it strange that Klifford would find out about a medicine that needs to be carefully prepared from pufferfish, and wouldn't think to tell Ciro about it." Benjamin opined. "It is strange that he'd write it down instead of keeping it to himself if he were guilty of something, but it's possible that it was part of a file that already existed."
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"Well, how about this then, soldiers. We use a lifeline to confirm this and we put it to rest now. How about it?"
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"I find it strange that Klifford would find out about a medicine that needs to be carefully prepared from pufferfish, and wouldn't think to tell Ciro about it." Benjamin opined. "It is strange that he'd write it down instead of keeping it to himself, but it's possible that it was part of a file that already existed."

"What the brat said, dont think the doc's dumb enough to leave anything about a medicine he dont know how to make out for someone to accidently poison themselves with unless it was ment to trick someone into making poison."
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"Easy brat, remember he has a family worried about him , sooner he gets out of here the sooner hes back with his family, but the doc aint stupid and decided to do it in a way that was slow, and tough for people who dont know jack about medicine to catch."


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"Clearly, he's a serial murderer and wants to get back to his wife or whatever. So, he slowly murdered Shizune to create a bulletproof alibi. The joys of being a single man!" He guffaws again, snickering.


"I find it hard to believe Klifford would do that," Brandy admitted. "I mean, sure he heard that stuff on the radio 'bout his wife n' such, n' we all wanna get outta here, but..."

She shook her head and sighed. "I don't know why I'm havin' such a hard time acceptin' that idea. Oh, n', tryin' to kill one girl don't make him a serial murderer. Jus' for clarification, if it is true."
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"Well, how about this then, soldiers. We use a lifeline to confirm this and we put it to rest now. How about it?"

"Where's your sense of adventure, comrade? Of solving a mystery!" Benjamin said with an impassioned voice before quickly dropping to his usual objective tone. "I'm fine with it. We have plenty available so it only makes sense."
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"Well, I don't think Klifford was responsible for ransacking the medicine room. This is his hospital, he probably knows where everything's kept. Someone else must have been the one searching for things in there," Seb said. "Actually, that's probably where the black bottle came from. But if someone else was ransacking the room, that means someone else is more likely to be responsible for all this, right?"
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"But... why would Klifford poison Shizune?" Brandy asked. "Even as far as the depraved things we've gone n' seen since this killin' game started, even that seems like a bit much to me."

"I have to agree..." Oliver remarked, his head still spinning from everything going on around him, especially Nail becoming a woman who was the polar opposite of him. "I highly doubt he would kill anyone, either. Though I suppose anything is possible. Perhaps his notes were just stolen, or... or something. I don't know."

He shrugged and sighed, rubbing the bridge of his nose. "I sincerely hope it wasn't him... I admire his handiwork. Helping children like that is an admirable profession," he quietly noted to himself.

"I suppose a lifeline could be useful here, yes," he conceded with another sigh. "We need all of the help we can get."
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"Er, well, I'm not so sure about that part myself," Seb replied awkwardly. "I still think Klifford was the one trying to use panacea to cure Shizune after finding out that she was dying and there was no other cure. Then Ciro stole his research notes for some reason, one thing led to another and somehow he was killed, by someone that isn't necessarily Klifford. And probably isn't Klifford, I doubt he'd kill anyone."


"...dyin'?" Brandy asked. "Did you say she was dyin'?"
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Seb shook his head hastily. "The crystal ball said it, not me. I don't know if she really is, but Klifford might have believed it at least."
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"Oh, jus' the way you phrased that made it seem like you knew somethin' we didn't. My bad."
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"Well, how about this then, soldiers. We use a lifeline to confirm this and we put it to rest now. How about it?"

"Where's your sense of adventure, comrade? Of solving a mystery!" Benjamin said with an impassioned voice before quickly dropping to his usual objective tone. "I'm fine with it. We have plenty available so it only makes sense."


"Soldier, I could really go for a nap right about now. I can feel when it's my morning nap time. And exercise, of course!" He says, stretching. You can hear quite a lot of bones pop. "So let's get this farce done with as soon as we can."
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"A lifeline certainly sounds helpful," Ivan agreed.
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Micah covers her head, covering under the mask.

"Ciro definitely is behind all this! He must've told someone that he could make Panacea and then tried to poison them or something! That's why he had the guts! And Klifford just killed him in self defense or something."
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"So two more votes before we can use a lifeline then." Benjamin nodded. "Anyone have a preference? Maybe we could hangman 'What poisoned Ciro?'"
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Micah covers her head, covering under the mask.

"Ciro definitely is behind all this! He must've told someone that he could make Panacea and then tried to poison them or something! That's why he had the guts! And Klifford just killed him in self defense or something."


"...can you shut the hell up? The adults are talkin'..." Brandy muttered, clearly exasperated with Micah's character.

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Matt scratched his head.
"we should just need to confirm why the fish guts were made right? either way hangman should work."
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"I must admit that I'm not quite following this..." Said a very confused Klifford. "But I have my notes on me." He said, pulling his notes out of his lab coat and clutching them rather tightly.
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"We can use a lifeline! Sounds smart!"

"Also, I just thought of this, but remember that feast? Maybe Ciro poisoned Shizune then or something."

Micah flinches and wraps her arms around herself.

"Oh... sorry Brandy..."
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"Shizune didn't eat anything." Benjamin sighed with exhaustion. "And she was sick long before that."
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"At this point, I'm fine with a lifeline. Jus' as long as we don't waste our time with it."

Brandy saw Micah's reaction to her and sighed. "I swear, it's like she's suddenly got a personality. Weird..."

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"Also if any of those notes you have are related to panacea you may as well show us, Klifford." Benjamin asked politely.
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"Well, if my vote counts twice, then I'm all for it! Or even if it counts only once. I'm outnumbered either way. But like Brandy said, let's not waste it. So, since she's got such a good head on her shoulders, let's have her take the lead on this lifeline."
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"There's only... two things I can think of that would be burned in the restaurant's kitchen," Seb said. "Notes of some kind from the hospital, or letters sent by Shizune via Bruce; she did have the whistle with her, after all, and was writing up a message of some kind that she put away when I entered. But, I don't really think she'd do that," he concluded, frowning. "Or I suppose it's possible Klifford sent messages via Bruce while Shizune was asleep, typed up on Claudia; whoever was at the other end would even think Shizune is the sender. But again that doesn't sound right to me."
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"I'm afraid they're not about panacea." Klifford replied. "Anyways, I'm in favor of a lifeline as well."
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[Errata: the bowl in the trash was blue, not orange. Am I a fool? Yes.]

"Alright, well you all are authorized to use your lifeline. What will it be? Choose one and make preparations."
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"...I do not want to believe our good doctor was being malicious. But we are still in the dark about Ms. Takata's condition. Perhaps our lifeline should be based on that."
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Shizune coughed quietly into her sleeve. Her head was swimming, though whether it was more from her sickness or trying to follow whatever the hell was going on was impossible to say.
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The group throws around ideas, eventually, they decide on the following:

SCRUM DEBATE: DID KLIFFORD INTEND TO POISON SHIZUNE?

Daniel looks down at the others, "Heads up, maggots! Who here is gonna be on the right side of history! Klifford tried to poison Shizune! He's been the one looking after her, but this whole time he's been keeping her sick! He's been plottin' to pick her off!"

He cranes his neck threateningly at the friendly doctor.

Brandy pounds he hand against the stone in front of her, "No way! Shizune would know that he was doing somethin' to 'er! This ain't that simple, let's throw down!"

Team Klifford Intended to Kill Shizune:

Daniel, Matt, Haley, Benjamin, Nail perhaps?

Team Klifford Had No Intention of Killing Shizune:

Brandy, Sebastian, Micah, Ivan, Oliver

Klifford stands in the middle, clutching his notes nervously. Shizune doesn't look like she wants to argue about this.

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Daniel: "Klifford must've told Ciro about the Panacea, otherwise, Ciro would be in the dark! Klifford never released any information to us about this!"

Brandy: "Ain't it possible that Klifford just didn't talk about issues of Shizune's health like the Panacea publicly? He wouldn't want to get everyone's hopes up for nothing. Ciro probably ransacked the room to find out about it!"

Matt: "Aw, I ain't buyin' that shit. Klifford probably made Shizune sick since she fell in the lake. She's been all screwed up since then, hasn't she?"

Sebastian: "I don't think so. Klifford would have needed poison to do this to Shizune. We only found the medicines here after that point. You're suggesting that Klifford had to have poisoned her right after we got here, but there were no opportunities like that. Shizune's sickness is natural."

Haley: "Hey isn't that medicine that Klifford gave to Shizune really fucked up? It's probably killing her faster. Her heart's probably failing as we speak. There's no way it's helping her."

Micah: "I read the label on the bottle, and it looks like it has a chance of making things worse for her, but it's clearly also intended to help make her better. Maybe Klifford has just been getting more and more desperate while treating her? It's way more likely that Ciro did it."

Benjamin: "Look we can talk about the hypotheticals, but it's doubtless that Klifford is in a big position of power knowing all of those medicines. Maybe Shizune had a natural sickness, but regardless, she was under Klifford's control after she came in there. He could have poisoned her while she was asleep and nobody here would have any idea. I think Ciro was trying to save her just like he tried to save Matt and me, and that's how he got wrapped up in this."

Oliver: "No way! I love Klifford! He's the sweetest and very respectable. He wouldn't do that to somebody!"

Ivan: "This can't be! Rattlewater's trusted pediatrician? A killer? I just can't fathom it. Shizune's condition has been the same the whole time! I've seen her! There's been no change in it except that it's been getting steadily worse!"


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"TEAM KLIFFORD HAD NO INTENTION OF KILLING SHIZUNE IS THE VICTOR."

Klifford lets the air leaves his lungs. Shizune's eyes lighten a little.
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Seb breathed a sigh of relief, and quickly capitalised on the momentum.

"Klifford, did you leave any notes about panacea lying around? Or, were there any documents pertaining to it?" Seb asked.
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