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DootDootDoot wrote:
"Additionally," Lucine added, "grandmother referred to uncle Basil and aunt Wyn as the same thing, 'investigators' or 'observers'. Why, pray tell, would I be immune to one of those, and yet perfectly vulnerable to aunt Wyn's investigative ability?"
"That would be because it's only your visits that are hidden," Bertram replied. "Wyn doesn't observe visits, she observes you."
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"One more point I want to make. We have an explanation for every death during the three cycles except for the time Mickey and Lucine died together," Bertram said. "No-one has come forward to claim responsibility, so it might suggest it is something Lucine herself is capable of. It might suggest she is a witch, simply due to how unexplained it is."
"That would be because it's only your visits that are hidden," Bertram replied. "Wyn doesn't observe visits, she observes you."
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"Additionally," Lucine added, "grandmother referred to uncle Basil and aunt Wyn as the same thing, 'investigators' or 'observers'. Why, pray tell, would I be immune to one of those, and yet perfectly vulnerable to aunt Wyn's investigative ability?"
"That would be because it's only your visits that are hidden," Bertram replied. "Wyn doesn't observe visits, she observes you."
"...You are a horrible father," Briggs said, shaking his head disapprovingly.
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Basil looked down at his daughter "Honey, I know Lippy is exactly that, but I don't think she's the witch in this situation. Not while Vincent is so obviously suspicious and was in at the right place at the right time to cover for Twilip!" He pleaded with her.
"Oh, no, it's personal now. I just want to see Twilip crash and burn at this point." Violet says, "I'll concede that this theory holds a bit of water, but I don't really see why they would go through the trouble of comitting to it, nor why Vincent would be stupid enough to say who he actually visited."
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"...You are a horrible father," Briggs said, shaking his head disapprovingly.
"If you ever become a father yourself, just pray that you don't find yourself in my shoes, having to say these same things," Bertram replied coldly. "If Lucine really is a witch, then that means my daughter, my real daughter, is already gone, replaced by a monster. Or at least, I have to believe that, otherwise..." He trailed off, unable to continue the thought.
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"...You are a horrible father," Briggs said, shaking his head disapprovingly.
"If you ever become a father yourself, just pray that you don't find yourself in my shoes, having to say these same things," Bertram replied coldly. "If Lucine really is a witch, then that means my daughter, my real daughter, is already gone, replaced by a monster. Or at least, I have to believe that, otherwise..." He trailed off, unable to continue the thought.
"...She is still your daughter," Briggs spat, looking away. "I don't understand it. I can't understand any of you..."
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"As bad as Lucine looks, I will vote for Twilip. Her confirmation gives us more information than Lucine's would, and I would hate to absolve Twilip when Lucine is found guilty."
"The confirmation of Twilip does not change Lucine's position, but it can decide the fate of Zachary, as if Twilip is innocent, then Zachary is not. I feel the information here is valuable, and we would be remiss to not go for it."
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"First cycle
"Twilight 1: He said Mickey and I never visited each other, but only revealed this after Mickey and I had already spoken, and only after I revealed he had visited me.
"Twilight 2: He said I never visited Robin, which is easily confirmed now that my ability was public. He said the same for Robin; perhaps he already knew of Robin's actions from another witch in the tea party.
"Twilight 3: He said Basil and Robin never visited each other. Basil had already explained what he did, so this was public.
"Twilight 4: He said Maurice visited Wyn twice and Wyn visited Maurice once. This one is interesting. From the previous twilight he already knew that Maurice had meant to visit me but visited Wyn instead. He also knew that Wyn had investigated him. Then, in the then-current twilight, if he was a witch he'd have known that the witches were only targeting Wyn. Maurice somehow died alongside her, therefore he could conclude he'd visited her a second time.
"Twilight 5: He tried to visit Allister and Wyn, learning nothing. He already knew Allister could delay actions so knew this would be safe.
"Second cycle
"Twilight 1: He visited himself and Violet. If Violet is also a witch, he knows what this result would be.
"Twilight 2: He visited himself and Vincent. Same again.
"Twilight 3: He visited Wyn and Basil. Both had been public about their actions, so this was a safe bet.
"Twilight 4: He checked Micket and Violet. If Violet is a witch, he would know for a fact that she visited Mickey twice. Mickey, meanwhile, had been public about his visits already.
"Twilight 5: He visited Maurice and Violet. Same again.
"Third cycle
"Twilight 1: He was knocked out, and so could easily claim to have learned nothing. We voted for him after this, so there are no more twilights to cover."
Bertram took a deep breath after all of this, before adding, "I always did find it strange how... useless, to be frank, his results were. There were a few times it felt like he ignored suggestions and visited people that he ended up learning nothing of interest from instead, and a few other times when left to choose alone his choice of targets seemed quite suboptimal. I understand this is all only wild theory-crafting, but I feel it best to say regardless, especially if it helps explain how he might be a witch instead of Twilip."
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"Bertram, there is simply no way that a witch could have told Zach who I visited in the first time-loop. Unless Mickey somehow figured out that I visited him. I never told a soul who I visited or what my power was until the second time-loop.
"Furthermore, Zachary revealed that he had learned nothing before I revealed that I had prevented him from learning anything. So he either would have to know some other way that he had been blocked, or he had to get lucky."
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"I also vote for Lucy," Uncle Billy said, leaning back and placing his feet on the table. "Twily will probably be first guess, so I want to look like cool dude if Lucy witch after all, which seem likely."
"Everyone knows there's only one WHAM, don't they?!" Gloria gasps.
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Furthermore, Zachary revealed that he had learned nothing before I revealed that I had prevented him from learning anything. So he either would have to know some other way that he had been blocked, or he had to get lucky."
"If you'll remember, that was the twilight Zachary was knocked out. It's perfectly reasonable for him to conclude something interfered with his ability to act. Or, indeed, if his role is something else and he noticed that it didn't work, then he would have already known he was blocked.
"As for your visit though, something obvious slipped my mind, sorry. I never visited you because I can't; you never visited me because I already confirmed you hadn't."
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"I also vote for Lucy," Uncle Billy said, leaning back and placing his feet on the table. "Twily will probably be first guess, so I want to look like cool dude if Lucy witch after all, which seem likely."
"Everyone knows there's only one WHAM, don't they?!" Gloria gasps.
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"Well, if you don't, now you do!"
Basil blinked and looked over towards Billy "I'm not sure she's NOT talking about the Band..."
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Basil blinked and looked over towards Billy "I'm not sure she's NOT talking about the Band..."
"Oh, are we not talking about WHAM!?" Gloria asks with a cheeky grin.
"If we are talking about witch aligned mortals, there's only one of those as well."
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"If there are three mortals alive at the end of an Arc and no one else, but one of them is... a WHAM, as we're calling them, what happens? Do the witches win, or do the mortals win?"
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"As for your visit though, something obvious slipped my mind, sorry. I never visited you because I can't; you never visited me because I already confirmed you hadn't."
"And what about Basil?" counters Robin. "Zach investigated me and him as well. Are you saying he relied on luck and hoped I would never prove him wrong later on?"
She crosses her arms. "And another thing. Zach was practically leading the investigations for quite some time, there. Even when he was being suspected, he investigated while making sure he would never be the only one there to make the claims on what he found. He gave himself no opportunity to lie. You think a witch would behave like that?"
"You..." She blinks rapidly for a moment and shakes her head. "You really think Zach would conspire to murder me? Three times?"
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"... Grandmother, if I may ask," Asher began, ignoring Wyn's previous statements, though he did mutter a few insults under his breath. Particularly "gold digger".
"If there are three mortals alive at the end of an Arc and no one else, but one of them is... a WHAM, as we're calling them, what happens? Do the witches win, or do the mortals win?"
"If there are three mortals alive at the end of an Arc and no one else, but one of them is... a WHAM, as we're calling them, what happens? Do the witches win, or do the mortals win?"
"Oh Asher, baby, the WHAM! can't hurt you! Well maybe they can, but not like a witch can!" Gloria coos. "The mortals would all escape safely, more or less, so the mortals would win!"
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She crosses her arms. "And another thing. Zach was practically leading the investigations for quite some time, there. Even when he was being suspected, he investigated while making sure he would never be the only one there to make the claims on what he found. He gave himself no opportunity to lie. You think a witch would behave like that?"
"You..." She blinks rapidly for a moment and shakes her head. "You really think Zach would conspire to murder me? Three times?"
"You..." She blinks rapidly for a moment and shakes her head. "You really think Zach would conspire to murder me? Three times?"
James replied, "I think it's in a witch's best interest to pretend to be on our side and help our investigation so they don't get suspected. I also don't think relations matter. Do you think Lucine would kill her father or Allister would kill Archer and Briggs?"
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"And what about Basil?" counters Robin. "Zach investigated me and him as well. Are you saying he relied on luck and hoped I would never prove him wrong later on?"
"I concede this point. I can't find any way to explain it," Bertram said, lowering his head.
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She crosses her arms. "And another thing. Zach was practically leading the investigations for quite some time, there. Even when he was being suspected, he investigated while making sure he would never be the only one there to make the claims on what he found. He gave himself no opportunity to lie. You think a witch would behave like that?"
"A witch will always try to appear helpful, to avoid being caught. I'm sorry, but I do not believe that to be useful evidence."
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"You..." She blinks rapidly for a moment and shakes her head. "You really think Zach would conspire to murder me? Three times?"
"Just earlier I accused my own daughter of murdering me!" Bertram replied, a little more heatedly than intended. "These are witches we're dealing with. We have... no choice but to think this way."
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"Indeed, Bertram," Zachary replied after his wife spoke up, giving himself a moment to collect his thoughts, "Even if my investigations later proved to be what the people actually did, and even if I was only finding out the obvious, I believe I mentioned a lot of my results before people confirmed them. My memory isn't perfect, for certain, but if there was a way to go back and check, I'm pretty sure that would make it likely I was investigating independently."
"I did check, actually. You did indeed reveal your results before people mentioned them, sometimes, but in all those cases there were other ways for you to have known in advance. Well, with the exception of Basil as Robin so correctly pointed out."
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"I just think that... If Zach's lying about his ability, he picked a lie that takes a lot of effort to maintain. And if he's not, then what good does that do for the witches? You would think he would have something that provides more benefit to his own side than to the other. These are witches. They have magic. And this is the best they can come up with?" She shakes her head.
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UkuleleLady wrote:
She crosses her arms. "And another thing. Zach was practically leading the investigations for quite some time, there. Even when he was being suspected, he investigated while making sure he would never be the only one there to make the claims on what he found. He gave himself no opportunity to lie. You think a witch would behave like that?"
"You..." She blinks rapidly for a moment and shakes her head. "You really think Zach would conspire to murder me? Three times?"
"You..." She blinks rapidly for a moment and shakes her head. "You really think Zach would conspire to murder me? Three times?"
James replied, "I think it's in a witch's best interest to pretend to be on our side and help our investigation so they don't get suspected. I also don't think relations matter. Do you think Lucine would kill her father or Allister would kill Archer and Briggs?"
"I . . . guess you have a point. I don't want to believe children would murder their parents or siblings, or spouses would brutalize each other, or that the father of a family might want to come and wreak havoc on us, but . . . that's why a few of us are thinking that the witches are impersonating some of us," Zachary explained, finding it difficult because his wife was, you know, right there, "So no, we can't rely on character; only our abilities and actions matter."
He turned to Bertram once again. "Then all I can do is apologize. I'm sorry to hear that my efforts may have been 'squandered,' but my results are my results, and I can't very well change my actions now, so I'm just going to have to live with it, along with all the other information we've gathered, and hope it's enough."
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"Mother, I have two questions," Bertram said, addressing Gloria cautiously. Her comments earlier about him and his siblings made him nervous. "Is it possible to draw a circle in advance, or to otherwise 'delay' a circle to kill someone later? Secondly, in the story Zachary had... well, his body was desecrated. Is it possible for him to have done that to himself, or is that evidence someone else did it to him? Would a witch-aligned mortal have done that?"
"The magic circle can be delayed to the next twilight by some roles certainly, but the absolute death circle can only be drawn by the witch with the killing power on the fifth twilight! Does that answer that question for you? I hope that helps little Bertie..."
Gloria bites her lip.
"The jaws could be destroyed by the magic circle itself, since it's the like the whole smiles magic but stronger! It's just like the head bursting in the last twilight! If Zachary came across that circle, his jaw would be gone in a moment!"
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"Twilip, I want to believe you're innocent, but you could stand to do a better job of looking it, I hope you realise. Don't you have anything more to say that might sway people? If we waste a vote on you it may be the end for us."
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The boy then ran over to Briggs's side (wherever he was) and stayed close to him. After taking a moment to calm himself down, he continued speaking.
"I'm still very suspicious of Father, but I do not want to further divide the votes. I will be placing my vote for Lady Lucine, as I believe she is the more suspicious of the two current suspects."
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"Well, I may as well..." he muttered, feeling the pressure from the players wanting his writer to vote. It weighed like the sky.
"... My vote will go towards Aunt Twilip. I believe her to be suspicious, and if she's innocent, then Uncle Zach is guilty. Either way, we have a confirmed witch. ... I do hope it's Aunt Twilip, though, seeing as we have a finite number of guesses..."
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"I-I can't believe you, Father!" Allister shouted uncharacteristically. "After all that, why would you murder Lady Wyn?! The only explanation I can think of is that both of you were witches, and she was selected as the sacrifice... I don't want to believe you're a witch, Father. But unfortunately after your careless actions, I can see no other option!"
The boy then ran over to Briggs's side (wherever he was) and stayed close to him. After taking a moment to calm himself down, he continued speaking.
"I'm still very suspicious of Father, but I do not want to further divide the votes. I will be placing my vote for Lady Lucine, as I believe she is the more suspicious of the two current suspects."
The boy then ran over to Briggs's side (wherever he was) and stayed close to him. After taking a moment to calm himself down, he continued speaking.
"I'm still very suspicious of Father, but I do not want to further divide the votes. I will be placing my vote for Lady Lucine, as I believe she is the more suspicious of the two current suspects."
"...Alright now, Allister, it'll be okay," Briggs sighed, holding Allister close. "Your father is just confused. I'm...I'm sure things will all work out."
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Upon hearing Asher's vote she sighs. "Didn't expect both of Basil's kids to be fools, but I guess their ignorance can't be helped at this point."
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"Petty insults won't get you anywhere, Aunt. And besides, even if you're proven innocent, it'll prove that Uncle Zachary is a witch. It's a high risk/high reward play. Maybe it'll pay off, maybe not. All we can do now is wait and see."
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