Case 5 is the best case ever!!! : Hazakurain (GS3)

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:44 pm

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musouka wrote:

An excerpt from my actual game notes for the final case:

Spoiler: GS3-5

I had the exact same reaction. 3-5 was made of awesome and win.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:15 pm

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Spoiler: Case 5

But I'd also like to echo the sentiments about Case 5. Definitely my new favorite now.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:25 am

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I just beat it a moment ago. Embarrassingly enough, I cried. And not just a tear or two, I bawled. I guess because I knew it was the last time I'd see everyone and stuff.

Overall....It was superb. My favourite case in the series, by FAR. And PW3 is DEFINITELY my favourite game in the series.

Two small things that bothered me, though...

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:09 am

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musouka wrote:

An excerpt from my actual game notes for the final case:

Spoiler: GS3-5

Completely fucking agree.

Spoiler: 3-5

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:13 am

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I agree, this case had me shocked and sitting there with my mouth gaping... it was pure awesomeness! I felt bad for Godot though, poor dude :(

The whole thing was bittersweet, I can't believe it's over for Phoenix, Edgy, the Feys, etc.. I am excited about Apollo Justice but I'll miss the original characters.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 am

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I still dont like 3-5. I dont forgive it for being the first case to use spirit channeling as scientific fact. I wish Dahlia and Iris had actually switched places before the excecution somehow, so that Iris was actually Dahlia (like 2-2). It wouldve been really sad, but wouldnt have pissed me off, which is all that really matters. (Okay, so its not all that matters. Sue me.)

But I will admit that Godot being the real culprit, Larry's picture, and the pendulum, (namely the non-spiritchanneling parts) were really cool. Epic, even. I wouldve liked 3-5 to be a three day case though.

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Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:43 am

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You know, I started thinking about what you said and I realized there's one thing a spirit has never done in a Phoenix Wright game, and that's... kill another person.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:18 am

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surasshu wrote:

You know, I started thinking about what you said and I realized there's one thing a spirit has never done in a Phoenix Wright game, and that's... kill another person.

Well, two have tried...wait, one...wait...

...soooooo confused. And I dont even know why.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:16 am

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Brandon Strong wrote:

I still dont like 3-5. I dont forgive it for being the first case to use spirit channeling as scientific fact. I wish Dahlia and Iris had actually switched places before the excecution somehow, so that Iris was actually Dahlia (like 2-2). It wouldve been really sad, but wouldnt have pissed me off, which is all that really matters. (Okay, so its not all that matters. Sue me.)

But I will admit that Godot being the real culprit, Larry's picture, and the pendulum, (namely the non-spiritchanneling parts) were really cool. Epic, even. I wouldve liked 3-5 to be a three day case though.

Laaame.

As the Judge says: Each case needs to be examined in its own facts (or whatever). Spirit Channeling is a reality in the PW world, and 3-5 makes it more than just a deus ex machina plot device meant to bring Mia back from the dead. Plus, coming back from death itself to continue her revenge is part of what makes Dahlia an awesome villain.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:13 pm

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I actually just made an account just to respond to this topic.

I completely agree with everyone when they say that the last case is definitely the best. It was just so epic that I could barely keep it to myself. I wanted to tell my friends, but they haven't played it yet...

But there is one thing that was bugging me.

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Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:49 pm

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Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:22 pm

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It's awesome............

4-2 is cooler though. *Shot*

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:32 am

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CantFaketheFunk wrote:

Laaame.

As the Judge says: Each case needs to be examined in its own facts (or whatever). Spirit Channeling is a reality in the PW world, and 3-5 makes it more than just a deus ex machina plot device meant to bring Mia back from the dead. Plus, coming back from death itself to continue her revenge is part of what makes Dahlia an awesome villain.

Oy! No need to lame my opinion out.

But I see your point. I guess its just a matter of opinion. I like the PW series to be crazy in its characters, crazy in its plots, and crazy in the courtroom...but I also like the way in which the crime is commited in some bizarre unforseen way that could potentially happen in real life. However unlikely. But here, they take spirit channeling away from the defense aide box and onto the witness stand. It just pisses me off. And if you dont share the opinion, theres no need to flame me for it.

It also might be the fact that you actually dont get to take down Dahlia in the end. I didnt like her breakdown. It was really wierd. I—M—O.

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Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:50 am

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Ugh! Case 3-5 and Case 2-4 rival each other on my "best cases ever" list. 2-4 simply for the sheer intesity and drama of the moment. How everyone works together and sets their regulars selfs aside for a moment to fight towards a common goal of bringing the real criminal to justice. 3-5 was overwhelming simply because it tied together all the major cases and characters of the Phoenix Wright trilogy and ~~tried to wrap up~~ wrapped up the trilogy in a nice ribbon and bow. I was disappointed with the ending though. Finding out that Godot had nothing to do with the murder until the last few minutes took me by surprise and not in the, "HOLY SHIITE HE'S DA RIL KILLAH!!!1111", like 1-4 and 2-4 did. 1-4 was about the same except Manfred was by far more ruthless and suspicious than Godot. Also, Godot's reasons were more or less selfish as he basically more-or-less gained no satisfaction from killing a woman who was already dead and taking the life of someone who was ready to go through any length to protect her only living daughter. I shed more of a tear at the end of 2-4 than 3-5 but it was still good. The "lady flying over the bridge" contradiction is one of the most creative contradictions ever!

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Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:18 am

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It is the best case ever, end of the story. *sniff*

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Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:00 pm

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While there's a lot to like about the case, there are two things that bug me.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:14 pm

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The only thing I didn't like is the very end. I mean, it would have been far more dramatic if...

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Awesome case anyway, altought 3-4 was more dramatic in my opinion.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:18 pm

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The only thing I didn't like is the very end. I mean, it would have been far more dramatic if...

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:29 pm

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fox334 wrote:

The only thing I didn't like is the very end. I mean, it would have been far more dramatic if...

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:57 pm

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Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:31 am

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Spoiler: case 5 duh

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Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:18 pm

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Spoiler: About Godot

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:39 am

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I loved this case. Way more than I expected to, actually.

I have no idea how I avoided spoilers for this game to the extent that I did, although I did know that

Spoiler: "case 3-5"

I was floored by how much I loved Godot. After all the hype about him that I've seen, I totally expected to have a "meh" reaction to him when I finally played this game.

Spoiler: "case 3-5"

GS3 Edgeworth was the bomb, even if you don't get to see him until pretty far into the game. I already made a post on a different thread about how much I loved Edgey in this game though, so I'm not going to get started on that again. *shameless fangirling*

I didn't really have a problem with some of the elements that people here are complaining about.

Spoiler: "case 3-5"

I wish I knew what "Super Objection" was so I'd know what I was missing.

Spoiler: "case 3-5"

I actually cried for the last bits of this case, because I am lame like that.

I can see why Capcom might want to shelve these characters after such a climactic ending. I thought they did a pretty good job of tying everything together in the end, and maybe anything further would be anticlimactic. But I so don't want this to be the last game about them. I'm sure GS4 will be great, but I will miss these characters we've gotten to know so well, and I do think there's a lot more that could be done with them--in particular, they could do more with Franziska's story and Edgeworth's travels abroad. And there's also a seven year gap between GS3 and GS4 (I think), so I wonder if we'll be seeing something later that fills us in on that.

Gah, when is GS4 coming out in English? I miss this series already. :larry:

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:34 am

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Lol, I get the feeling that I'm the only one who disliked all the spirit channeling in case 5...

Spoiler: 3-5

But hell, Ive grown to like Moe. Ill be singing this cases praises about a month I get my localized copy...it'll just take time.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:13 am

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To be honest, I find the excessive use of spirit channeling to be abit off-putting. Whatever happened to good old fashioned criminals who weren't already dead :chinami:

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Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:04 pm

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Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:59 am

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I'm a guy, but yes. I found Godot holding a sword extremely cool. Sword + visor + Godot = awesomeness. He should carry a sword around!

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Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:58 pm

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I second that notion - Godot certainly had his merits with the blade.

Hmm...Darth Godot, anyone? XD

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Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:21 am

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n3m3sis42 wrote:

Spoiler: "case 3-5"

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And I agree with most people here, this was by far my favourite case. The final part with Cornered, Mia and the final objection was too much awesome.

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Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:15 am

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Iris_Wright wrote:

I'm a guy, but yes. I found Godot holding a sword extremely cool. Sword + visor + Godot = awesomeness. He should carry a sword around!

Me too...I think that that was when I first thought that he was perhaps the coolest prosecutor in the series. Godot + Shitshikinishishoshimo = instant promotion to better prosecutor then edgey. Dollie looked cool in that picture too.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:13 am

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Darth Godot *vadar theme song* OMG godot with a lightsabre. Freaking awesome, I really wanna see it.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:18 am

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I am totally gay for Godot with and without sword...

Anyway, back to the main case. Absolutely amazing, I can't believe the writers managed to squeeze so much epic into a single case.

Saddest part for me was how...

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:37 am

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I didn't find Godot's fate to be sad at all, since he's much better off dead

I'm not sure what to think aboot that. I reckon Godot woulda made a nice addition to the cast. Just pure coolness. And well, Maya not meeting with her mother is for the best, in my opinion. Elise would have to give an excuse for abandoning her, and no matter what, it would be half-assed. How do you explain leaving your children on their own just because you messed up?

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:14 am

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Iris_Wright wrote:

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I didn't find Godot's fate to be sad at all, since he's much better off dead

I'm not sure what to think aboot that. I reckon Godot woulda made a nice addition to the cast. Just pure coolness. And well, Maya not meeting with her mother is for the best, in my opinion. Elise would have to give an excuse for abandoning her, and no matter what, it would be half-assed. How do you explain leaving your children on their own just because you messed up?

I too would've liked to have seen more Godot in later games, but the more I think I about it. The more I think that his fate in GS3 was perfect. Godot's sole reason to live was to protect Maya from Morgan's scheme, which he succeeded in doing. Now that he's dead, he can be with his love, Mia. I couldn't stand seeing Godot alone in a later title, not after all he's been through.

But yeah, you're right about Misty. They couldn't have pulled it off very well, and the attempt would do nothing but soil a near perfect case.

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:43 pm

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Yeah, I think Godot should remain dead too, so he can be with Mia. Just saying he's an awesome character I wouldn't mind seeing again. And I don't really like Misty, no matter how you look at it. She could have done things in a million different ways, but she chose the one that nearly got Maya killed, forced Godot to kill, and killed herself. Incredibly stupid. All she needed to do was warn Maya/Pearl outright and the whole mess could have been avoided.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:18 pm

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I liked 2-4 better by a hair. <_<

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:38 am

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2-4 was more intense, but 3-5 was still overall a better case for me. I think it ties up all the loose ends in the game very nicely, and paves the way for GS4.

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:46 am

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Cheath wrote:

I liked 2-4 better by a hair. <_<

I found 2-4 to be boring as hell... then again, I disliked all of JfA. :S

Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:55 am

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Heh, it wasn't that bad. JFA was lacking in the other cases, but 2-4 made up for it. It was so intense, shooting back and forth. Second best case behind 3-5 =D

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Re: Case 5 is the best case ever!!!

Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:23 pm

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3-5>1-5>3-4>2-4 for me.