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So, :phoenix: proved :zenitora: guilty. All's well, right? Well... probably not for Phoenix. Don't forget that Phoenix implicated :uramidn: in Zenitora's plot, which happens to make her an accomplice to murder. Now, I found it a fairly significant plot point that Viola is the granddaughter of a crime lord, a point which drove Zenitora to murder. So what if Bruto has a couple of lawyers in his pocket who can get her off? It still doesn't change the fact that Phoenix not only put Viola in a life-threatening situation by the possibility of her being executed for her role in the crime, but also exposed her relationship with Bruto, which means she will be a target of kidnappings and assassinations perhaps for the rest of her life, or at least for Bruto's life. And if I recall The Godfather correctly, Sicilian mobs get mighty angry when someone messes with la familia....
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I've thought of another little issue in Case 3.

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Didn't Phoenix lie and essentially falsify evidence in order to trick Furio? There were all those rumors about Edgeworth using dirty tactics but no one minds when Phoenix uses one?
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Reset wrote:
I've thought of another little issue in Case 3.

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Didn't Phoenix lie and essentially falsify evidence in order to trick Furio? There were all those rumors about Edgeworth using dirty tactics but no one minds when Phoenix uses one?




Err...
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I think forging evidence is a little bit more severe than using a trick on evidence that I'm pretty sure wasn't relevant to the case.
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I know... but I was starting to worry that Phoenix was getting dirtier in his tactics.
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Reset wrote:
I know... but I was starting to worry that Phoenix was getting dirtier in his tactics.

Well, as we all know, lying in a court of law is perfectly acceptable in 201X.
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Oh yeah, about Bruto :)

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Bruto is probably pleased that Phoenix took care of Furio for him. Maybe it doesn't totally make up for revealing Viola as an accomplice but enough to let him live? Just kind of thinking out loud here...

I don't think Viola would be executed even if found guilty. She wasn't involved in carrying out the murder. She was helping to cover it up which is not quite as serious. And how important it was that her relationship was exposed depends on how public that information was. Was that ever mentioned?

I guess this is what happens when you let your granddaughter hang around the person that crashed into her :)
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Reset wrote:
I know... but I was starting to worry that Phoenix was getting dirtier in his tactics.

lol,

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Phoenix not only put Viola in a life-threatening situation by the possibility of her being executed for her role in the crime, but also exposed her relationship with Bruto, which means she will be a target of kidnappings and assassinations perhaps for the rest of her life, or at least for Bruto's life. And if I recall The Godfather correctly, Sicilian mobs get mighty angry when someone messes with la familia....


Hmm.

Spoiler: Justice for All. Case 4
Phoenix didn't seem to mind putting Engarde in that 'tight' spot with De Killer towards the end of the trial...so it's not quite a new trait.
Perhaps it's just that he felt it was somewhat deserved by her - she wasn't completely innocent in all of this as far as her SOME of actions were concerned, no matter how little choice she might have had.

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Sebastian Stark wrote:
Spoiler: Justice for All. Case 4
Phoenix didn't seem to mind putting Engarde in that 'tight' spot with De Killer towards the end of the trial...so it's not quite a new trait.
Perhaps it's just that he felt it was somewhat deserved by her - she wasn't completely innocent in all of this as far as her SOME of actions were concerned, no matter how little choice she might have had.


I don't think that really applies because Phoenix was never actually dealing with organized criminals who could potentially kill him. At no point during 2-4 was Phoenix's life in any danger.
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What I don't understand is why Viola appears during the credits. If she was involved with the murder in any way, then she should have not appeared there.

Maybe Bruto forced the police to let her go...?
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I doubt the police even attempted to get her. Isn't Bruto too powerful for the police?
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Yeah... The Cadaverini family owns the underground, or at least Bruto does. Viola is grandaddy's little girl after all, so he'll definitely pull strings to get her off the hook somehow. [And most likely did so.]

The only reason why Phoenix could pull off fooling Furio is because everyone else knew about it earlier on. Before they could even raise a question on the matter the man's already spilled the beans.

Oh yeah, there have been a couple times Phoenix withheld evidence from the court only to reveal them at "opportune" moments. I dunno if I could call that dirty per se, but rather it's more of him trying to work around the rules so he could prove his point further. Dirty would be pulling off what Gant did way back when. As for the whole "putting people on the spot", it's part of Phoenix's job to get the truth out as he's defending his clients. It can't be helped if he does endanger people in the process.
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