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It never really thought that Edgeworth was gay.
Still don't really.
It seems some of the assumption online stems from his choice of outfits.
I always figured he wore the deep colors and the cravat because he saw himself as royalty of the legal system.
Purple being the color of kings and a tie is just too common man and all that.
That, and he was raised by von Karma, court royalty in his own right.
yes? no?
Am I just naive?
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That doesn't mean fans can't ship them whichever way they like, though. If they want to make Edgeworth gay, they're free to do so, but that doesn't actually make him officially gay.
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I was just wondering if I'm off base in my own thinking, or are there others who think along the same line.
That's what fans are for.
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1. he doesn't ever show interest in women, individually or as a whole, despite being repeatedly prompted
2. his emotional reaction to Phoenix is disproportionately huge
3. he goes to lengths for Phoenix that are frankly mind-boggling, especially in the third game
4. there is an obscure exchange in 3-5 that pretty much cannot logically be read any other way.
Y'know. Things based on his character and the way he acts.
I'll snicker immaturely at the pink suit and the fluffy cravat as much as anyone, but for me it's just joking around. XD He really looks very refined and high-class, and, let's admit it, the pink really suits him. It's silly to SERIOUSLY use his clothes as evidence of his sexuality. XD
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Wrong.
Assuming either way is BZZZZZT.
As far as it's officially concerned, every character in the game has no defined sexuality.
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My thoughts about his sexuality or lack therefof are completed unrelated to what he wears. I've known people who've worn bright colours, cravats, drunk tea etc. and there's been little correlation with sexuality (except I've never known a single gay cravat wearer for what that's worth).
I would assume he wears what he wears to be flamboyant and as a sort of "uniform" in court. I never imagine him wearing anything like it out of court.
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Okay so like, does this mean because most of my friends are girls that I'm all of a sudden a lesbian? Rrr.
It's either people are taking things too seriously, or getting too worked up over a serious/dramatic sentence between the two.
They're adults. Why can't they talk intellectually or deeply without getting the big red gay stamp on their heads?
And by the way, if we were to look at this from a logical stand point, their conversations are really just to the point. There's really no loops unless you REALLY look into it and REALLY try to find it.
=A= but ah. There are too many yaoi fans, and I am outnumbered.
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It's certainly not just the mindless ravings of yaoi fans. I'm not a 'yaoi fan,' and I see it after 3-5. >_>
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Well, it doesn't, of course.
Phoenix and Edgeworth's "close guy" relationship, on the other hand... >_>
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It doesn't.
Ever wondered why there are scores of Edgeworth/Phoenix fans, but only a few Phoenix/Larry fans?
It's not just a matter of them being close friends.
I'd explain further but that's what the gay topic is for >>;
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I'm not, sadly, sure that I'd go so far as to say "most". It is funny to giggle about though, I agree :)
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YEAH BABY, YEAH.
If only I could find that Edgey-as-Austin-Powers fanart that popped up a while back.
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Okay so like, does this mean because most of my friends are girls that I'm all of a sudden a lesbian? Rrr.
Well I dunno - are you?
My closest friends have all been male, and by close I mean physically (though in most cases not sexually) and emotionally, and I'm unrepentently het - so maybe that proves the argument and yes, you must be gay and so must P&E. Or not, since it's a nonsense argument.
In some cases for me intense closeness has spilled over into a relationship with the person in question, because sometimes ... it does, if that closeness is particularly unique. I have friends for whom that has been true for people of the same sex - just not me, as I have for some reason almost always been and felt closest to guys so the issue hasn't come up.
I completely agree that being able to connect emotionally/intellectually/deeply does not make two people automatically a couple, but it *can* make them a couple, depending on other dynamics and factors within a relationship. It can also drive people apart for many years - sometimes a soulmate is not the best choice for a couply-relationship. The act of pushing someone away can sometimes be as telling as the alternative, believe me. Maybe that's why I quite like writing Edgey in fic, who knows?
I'm not massively into yaoi as it happens - or indeed manga and anime. (oh noes - I'll be run out of town, the horror)! Sure, I have been a fan of Forster and other overtly homosexual authors since I was in my early teens. I have a great love for MY BEAUTIFUL LAUNDERETTE and Derek Jarman movies. I don't need to be trying to look for stuff with a magnifying glass in a video game because I have bookshelves of unequivocal Teh Gay right here.
I wasn't 100% on one side or another regarding Edgeworth until I played T&T but now I'm with CFTF. I think 3:5 is very telling in a lot of ways so far (still ekeing it out to the very end though as I don't want it to be over).
And this should really be in the gay or GAY thread at this point I'm sure.
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Wrong.
Assuming either way is BZZZZZT.
As far as it's officially concerned, every character in the game has no defined sexuality.
THANK YOU. That was my exact line of thought upon reading that.
I don't think wearing magenta and cravats are the reasons that people perceive Edgeworth as being gay. There are plenty of other well-explained reasons (and in the end, it's the fan's decision regardless). I mean, yes, it is seemingly taboo for men to wear shades of pink or purple, or anything deemed "frilly", and that's most likely where any SERIOUS argument in that favor will begin.
I can agree with what you've said - purple is considered a "royal" color, and it would make sense given his "royal" status. And again, the flamboyancy comes into effect - how many other prosecutors do you know of that wear magenta suits? In my mind, it's about the lasting impression.
And the cravat? Is sexy.
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I mean, seriously. The only one who doesn't dress flamboyantly or impressively is Payne. And he has that thing with his hair... :p
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I mean, seriously. The only one who doesn't dress flamboyantly or impressively is Payne. And he has that thing with his hair... :p
Actually, I'd say it's just a Von Karma thing. Just take a look at Godot and Kyouya.
Now THEY know how to dress.
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The cravats are definitely a von Karma thing though.
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Well, it doesn't, of course.
Phoenix and Edgeworth's "close guy" relationship, on the other hand... >_>
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: It's guy love, between two guys! : Closer than the average man and a wife! : That's why our matching bracelets say Nick and Edgey! : You know I'll stand by you for the rest of my life! : You're the only man that's ever been inside of meee!
: Whoa, whoa, I just took out his appendix...But in all seriousness, I agree entirely with YamiKaosu who in turn agrees with CantFaketheFunk; assuming a character is straight is just like assuming a character is gay--you can't know anybody's sexuality for sure in these things. However, I think we're all sure what Hondobou/Armstrong is. Then again, Max Galactica was straight (or at least bisexual)...
And yes, the cravat is DAMN SEXY. Probably a Von Karma (and pseudo!Karma Edgey) thing only, though.
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Who said fandom had to make sense? Isn't the fun of fandom making sense of things the creators didn't consider?
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Who said fandom had to make sense? Isn't the fun of fandom making sense of things the creators didn't consider?
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It's fun, though :)
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There is no such thing as romance between the opposite sex, as there is no such thing as friendship between people of the same sex, at least if the two are male...
(I'm bitter right now. Sue me...)
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: It's guy love, between two guys! : Closer than the average man and a wife! : That's why our matching bracelets say Nick and Edgey! : You know I'll stand by you for the rest of my life! : You're the only man that's ever been inside of meee! : Whoa, whoa, I just took out his appendix...you monster! how could you ruin the best scrubs episode ever with a 4rd class parody pfft ><
@topic:
maybe edgeworth is straight or not who knows but i think the programmers wanted us to think he is gay
for example:
and edgeworth dad died...leaving him without a male role model
von karma could never be someone he could really relate to emotionally but there was franziska(also gay gay gay!)
we all know,that franziska and edgeworth really connected together emotionally(they are like brother and sister) and in the rl boys without a male role model often turn gay or act not 100% straight(that would explain a lot)
but one thing remains clear: Franziska is gay gay gay :D with adrian
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There is no such thing as romance between the opposite sex, as there is no such thing as friendship between people of the same sex, at least if the two are male...
Yep, all of us damn fangirls. Hating friendship, opressing you with our evil, m/m loving-ways----!
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I'm ekeing this game out horribly because I'm kinda sad it's the end :( Plus I'm trying to replay bits of 2:4 at the same time due to the Paris thing.
Edited for spoiler potential due to stupid bloody mouse button that is doing my head in and doesn't do as its told. Going to buy new one on way home.
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There is no such thing as romance between the opposite sex, as there is no such thing as friendship between people of the same sex, at least if the two are male...
(I'm bitter right now. Sue me...)
Gumshoe/Maggey
Diego/Mia
Ron/Desiree
Yeah, no such thing as romance between opposite sexes at all. None. We're all here to force the male characters into gay relationships.
Honestly, CI? I like you, man--but that's just stupid of you to say. I'm CERTAINLY not a "yaoi shipper" (I can think of male/male and female/female relationships I support on like... a hand and a finger or two), and I know that a bunch of the others here are the same way. Your generalizations don't jibe with reality.
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Of course I know such is not the case (otherwise, I wouldn't be a Phoenix/Maya shipper). I am not that big of an idiot. I typed that because sometimes, that's the way I feel about certain Yaoi relationships (I know that there are certain het and yuri relationships that make no sense at all, for example, I dislike Kasumi/Ayane in DOA).
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