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do any of you know if this games third case is better then the others? :wellington:
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GS3-3 is one of my favorite cases in the entire series, personally. It's really good, I think, and the characters and the weirdest/coolest of any case in the series.
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The characters are really top notch. I didnt care for the case too much, though.

And hey! Case 1-3 is the archetypical phoenix wright case! Not the best, but it embodies everything that a Phoenix Wright case should be!

I'm also starting...slowly...to warm up to 2-3. It's not as bad as I and others have made it out to be, I'm thinkin. A lot of chance events involved, but this is PW.
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3-3 is a very good case, even thought, in my opinion, its overshadowed by 3-1. 3-4 and 3-5.
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I think the formatting of the games is essentially putting the third case as a normal, not backstory-loaded case. One that has, like, less delving into the main characters' traits. The court case shouldn't always be centered around the -lawyers-, yknow'.
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I feel the same way! I usually dislike the 3rd case as well. But I liked 3-3 a lot, it's my favorite of them after 3-5. I felt like 3-2 fell more into the typical 3rd case catagory, even though it was the second.
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BLASPHEMY! FURIO'S IN 3-3! DIE DIE!

I dunno, I actually enjoyed them. 2-3 in particular. Yeah, I'm odd.
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DarzieP wrote:
BLASPHEMY! FURIO'S IN 3-3! DIE DIE!

I dunno, I actually enjoyed them. 2-3 in particular. Yeah, I'm odd.

I agree, sure some of the characters sucked but it was a good case all and all. :D
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MikeMeekinsFan wrote:
DarzieP wrote:
BLASPHEMY! FURIO'S IN 3-3! DIE DIE!

I dunno, I actually enjoyed them. 2-3 in particular. Yeah, I'm odd.

I agree, sure some of the characters sucked but it was a good case all and all. :D

GS2-3 is actually one of my favorite cases. I don't know; I always like the cold-weather cases :hobohodo: That might have something to do with it. Also, being a nostalgiatard, it makes me think of a) other stuff with circuses, i.e. Banjo-Tooie, and b) how excited I was when I was playing GS2 for the first time. *cough* I'm weird like that.
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Oh man! I prefer 1-3 to the other two cases by a landslide. Not does it preceed the other two cases and set the standard for filler but also lasts for three days; a rarity for the Ace Attorney series nowadays. Plus, it had an awesome reminiscence track.

4-3 looks promising, though I'll hold off my excitement for when I actually get around to playing it.
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Yeah, the third case of each game has always been my least favorite out of all the cases.

2-3 is the only case I can say I HATE though. That case needs to go die, especially Moe and his scary self.

Although 1-3 had the Steel Samurai in it, right? You can't really hate it. And 3-3 has Viola! :uramidn:
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Haruhi wrote:
Yeah, the third case of each game has always been my least favorite out of all the cases.

2-3 is the only case I can say I HATE though. That case needs to go die, especially Moe and his scary self.

Although 1-3 had the Steel Samurai in it, right? You can't really hate it. And 3-3 has Viola! :uramidn:

2-3 is the worst case I ever had to play.

but 1-3 was a good filler with the steel samurai and stuff but not my favorite out of the first 5 cases.

3-3 has Viola?

who is she...and is she cute? :edgy:
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3rd case i agree has great characters, but got to admit the whole reasoning behind the murder still confuses me. Not why but the reasoning of how they went through with it.
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Richard Wellington wrote:
Haruhi wrote:
Yeah, the third case of each game has always been my least favorite out of all the cases.

2-3 is the only case I can say I HATE though. That case needs to go die, especially Moe and his scary self.

Although 1-3 had the Steel Samurai in it, right? You can't really hate it. And 3-3 has Viola! :uramidn:

2-3 is the worst case I ever had to play.

but 1-3 was a good filler with the steel samurai and stuff but not my favorite out of the first 5 cases.

3-3 has Viola?

who is she...and is she cute? :edgy:


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lets say it this way: it better than 1-3 and 2-3, but not as good as the other cases in the game
(yupp every single case in this game is awesome)

and the characters in 3-3 are way far better than in 1-3 and 2-3 except for one french guy :chef:
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The hatred for the Case Threes surprises me a bit. I always view the Case Three of every game to be quite entertaining, as they always have the most colorful cast of characters. The third game's Case 3 is no exception, and, in my opinion, is the very best of the bunch. All the participating characters are so over-the-top hilarious and really well written. The locales are fun, and it's got more quirky PW in-jokes than any other case.
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Brick me if you will, but the only character I found generally endearing was Tigre. Viola didn't stand out very much; just your standard creepy gothic girl, I didn't find anything interesting about Kudo except for his infinite birdseed ammo, there was barely any connection between Lisa and Glen and that put me off because I was expecting something mind blowing (I really expected too much from T&T, huh?), and Armstrong I do not want to remember. As fun as it was to laugh at him the guy was a freak job and spoke with the most horrid French dialect I'd ever heard.

IMO, it goes like this: 1-3 > 2-3 = 3-3
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Agent Macbeth wrote:
Brick me if you will, but the only character I found generally endearing was Tigre. Viola didn't stand out very much; just your standard creepy gothic girl, I didn't find anything interesting about Kudo except for his infinite birdseed ammo, there was barely any connection between Lisa and Glen and that put me off because I was expecting something mind blowing (I really expected too much from T&T, huh?), and Armstrong I do not want to remember. As fun as it was to laugh at him the guy was a freak job and spoke with the most horrid French dialect I'd ever heard.

IMO, it goes like this: 1-3 > 2-3 = 3-3


but 3-4 and 3-4 make up for everything not so good in the game, because those two cases are pure fun
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Personally I like all the cases in the third game.
3-3>1-3>2-3
I really hate 2-3 especially that lame-ass clown.

Agent Macbeth wrote:
Brick me if you will, but the only character I found generally endearing was Tigre. Viola didn't stand out very much; just your standard creepy gothic girl, I didn't find anything interesting about Kudo except for his infinite birdseed ammo, there was barely any connection between Lisa and Glen and that put me off because I was expecting something mind blowing (I really expected too much from T&T, huh?), and Armstrong I do not want to remember. As fun as it was to laugh at him the guy was a freak job and spoke with the most horrid French dialect I'd ever heard.

IMO, it goes like this: 1-3 > 2-3 = 3-3


I thought Viola was an awesome character despite her goth-ness. She has funny death threats and she's pretty cute as well ;)
Armstrong makes me cringe everytime I see his sprite, he's a pink-wiggly mass of flesh...... it's very disturbing. He sort of reminds me of a more feminine version of Armstrong from Fullmetal Alchemist.
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Reiji Mitsurugi wrote:
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Brick me if you will, but the only character I found generally endearing was Tigre. Viola didn't stand out very much; just your standard creepy gothic girl, I didn't find anything interesting about Kudo except for his infinite birdseed ammo, there was barely any connection between Lisa and Glen and that put me off because I was expecting something mind blowing (I really expected too much from T&T, huh?), and Armstrong I do not want to remember. As fun as it was to laugh at him the guy was a freak job and spoke with the most horrid French dialect I'd ever heard.

IMO, it goes like this: 1-3 > 2-3 = 3-3


but 3-4 and 3-4 make up for everything not so good in the game, because those two cases are pure fun


dude...you said 3-4 twice. :matt:
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I guess thats just how awesome it is!

The Judge's Brother is so badass that he makes up for whatever bad things there are in the entire world.
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I had a problem with 3-3 because you knew right off the bat who the killer was. You saw his eyes for fuck's sake! Part of the thing I loved about the other two games was that you had only a vague idea of who the killer was but had no evidence to prove it, much less meet them face-to-face, during the last half of the case. 2-3 is a great example of this and I would rate it above 3-3...You know what! I'll do just that right now!

1-3 > 2-3 > 3-3

I don't care how quirky, eccentric, or flat-out irritating the characters are, I WANT SUSPENSE DAMMIT! That's what immediately captivated me on the first two games; you had no idea what was going to pop out at you.
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who is she...and is she cute?


If you think long-haired Asian girls crawling out of your TV are cute...well, then yes, Viola's 'cute'.

Funny, I actually LIKED 2-3 XDD I don't even like the circus, or Moe, and Max annoyed the hell out of me (only one man can say 'Fabulous' while being masculine straight and that's MAXIMILLION PEGASUS! ...OMG, PW spoofed Yu-Gi-Oh?!) but I found that case to be highly entertaining.

Anyway, generally though the third case always seems to have plot holes and silly reasoning. Case 3-3 is no exception. The best defense those guys could give was...a mirror? A big, giant mirror that nobody talked about. Seriously? SERIOUSLY!?

Oh, and wow, a bottle of potassium cyanide is sure easy to come by. Hell, anyone can keep a bottle around until that one day when a customer walks in and has a winning lottery ticket! Wow, all that investment in black-market potassium cyanide finally paid off! Now I wouldn't have to poison random people for kicks!

The easy-out by Furio Tigre himself in the ned doesn't help either =/
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u guys didnt like 1-3??? :(
i thought it was a great case! better than 2-3, 3-3, 3-2 imo
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I guess the third case in all of the games should be called the "comedy case." They are always the funniest!

Case 1-3 was the best case of the first game, Case 2-3 was the second best of the second game, and Case 3-3 was the second best of the third game, in my opinion.

So, I would rank them as : 1-3>2-3=3-3
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I practically feel the same way. I think it's because all for each respective game, the other cases were just better. Turnabout Samurai was actually fun even though the case ended up being awkward. Turnabout Big Top was alright, but that also had weird explanation on the murder. But Recipe for Turnabout is awesome and I say it's the best third case ever and I find it better than some of the cases in TaT.

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Viola and Furio made it interesting. Oh, and MC Bomber, hahaha.

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I (although I haven't played 3-3 yet) have always thought of the 3s as more of filler.
From my experience, 1 is a plotless introduction, 2 is a cool Fey-related case that changes the course of PW history (Mia dying, meeting Maya, meeting Pearl, getting the Magatama), 3 is unrelated stuff before 4, the climax, usually with a supertwist, such as a murderer prosecutor or a liar samurai.
Which makes 3, in this system, just not as life-changing.
1 is a whole different story.
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Agent Macbeth wrote:
I had a problem with 3-3 because you knew right off the bat who the killer was.

*cough1-1cough*
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2-3 wasn't that bad, but the reason i dont like it is the incomprensibility of the actual crime.

The other two were really good, maybe the reason for not liking teh third cases is that they never relate to the game's actual story. I know 1-3 relates to 2-4, but I'm sure very few people knew that when they first played it. And what's wrong with youse not liking 3-3? :zenitora:

3-3 also foreshadows Hobohodo's look in a way.

Spoiler: 3-3
Glen Elg looks just like Hobohodo, and Zenitora managed to convincingly fool people as a double for Phoenix and Elg.

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Honestly, I liked 2-3. It was a little out there, but all the cases are a little crazy.

1-3 I absolutely hated. I've replayed the games before and I always skipped that case. There's just something annoying about it....Ugh...

3-3 is ugh too. There was just something terrible about it that I can't pinpoint. ....I did love Viola though, and it was a better case than 3-2. :uramidn:
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ShyTenda wrote:
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I had a problem with 3-3 because you knew right off the bat who the killer was.

*cough1-1cough*


That was an introductory case with little to no depth. The filler cases are usually supposed to be long and trying, the hardest cases in the game next to the final case. Remember 1-3? You didn't corner Vasquez, much less find out where the real murder took place, until the third day. Remember 2-3? You didn't solve how the "criminal" flew through the air until the final trial day. Sure, 3-3's turning point was figuring out that the "Glen Elg" that Kudo saw was a fake, but you figured out by the FIRST DAY that Tigre was the killer. Where's the fun in introducing the killer right off the bat and giving them away clear as day?

Also, overuse of "Search - Core 2002" ftl.
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1-2 as well.
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The third case is always the normal, human sort of murders, while the fourth and fifth cases are the epic ones involving authority figures and sociopaths.

The case behind 3-3 was very weak. The characters are so awesome that they are the only reason that one should play the case. Even the "mystery event" shrouded in the past was shallow and it's single psyche-lock was wimpy.
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