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What about Wellington? He just did what he did to hide his image as a conman or something, and didn't really know what he was doing (he was paranoid).
It wasn't premeditated murder, Wellington panicked, pure and simple. Although a murder's still a murder, he's not completely evil because he didn't really intend to do it in the first place. He's just a little conman making his living in this cruel world ;_;
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Redd White, Manfred von Karma, Morgan Fey, Matt Engard, Dahlia Hawtorn, Luck Atmey and Furio Tigre.
I didn't really think Tigre or Luke was all that evil TBH they were more like petty thieves.
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MikeMeekinsFan wrote:
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Redd White, Manfred von Karma, Morgan Fey, Matt Engard, Dahlia Hawtorn, Luck Atmey and Furio Tigre.
I didn't really think Tigre or Luke was all that evil TBH they were more like petty thieves.
Atmey manipulated the thefts of a masterfully skilled (in retrospect) thief, created a rivalry between a man whom he knew well but whom the other man knew nothing about, and when all was said and done pinned the blame on said thief to get away with a charge far less severe than murder. He's a master at playing the angles of the law and manipulating those around him to get off scott-free.
Tigre is an intimidating powerhouse of orange-skinned muscle with a fiery temper to match. He didn't take smack from anyone: If you didn't pay with money, you would pay him with your life. He manipulated a girl who had her full trust in him and he used her to get away with murder; and he even beat the law by staging a phony trial with a PAPER BADGE of all things! The fact he didn't give a rat's ass about her - or anyone else for that matter - proves how cold-blooded he is.
When you think about, they're both like Dahlia and they can all be summarized in one word: Manipulative. You think they were using Dahlia as a backdrop when designing Atmey and Tigre?
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Either that or Missle, who caused Larry's career as a hot dog salesmen to nearly vanish, costing him hundreds of dollars in weiners.
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You are an extremely twisted individual. LET ME READ IT WHEN YOU'RE DONE ^_^. Don't forget to make Gumshoe's murder especially brutal
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and 
are definitely the best villains. Also 
is a chart topper for me. Seriously though, Dahlia is evil as hell. She's a fricking mass murderer. She's probably killed as much as Joe Darke...Body count time for dollie
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Sawit was an asshole. Period.
Redd wanted evidence, and is an asshole. Period.
Dee killed to avenge Manuel.
Yogi killed because of the whole DL6 Incident.
Von-Karma killed cause his record was broken.
Gant killed....
Wellington killed cause he's a conman, and was afraid of being caught.
Morgan
Ini is also not bad. She killed because her sister was murdered by Grey.
Acro is annoying, and like Dee, killed for revenge.
Engarde is extremely evil, hiding under a fabracade.
Dahlia's a cold hearted bitch, all because Morgan's Ex-Husband was an asshole to her. And nobody loved her at all. Well, cept maybe Bikini and Iris.
Atmey was a "detective".
Tigre used Viola, and manipulated with her to kill Glen.
Dahlia killed Valerie, and because of her actions, Onimida was too shocked about everything, so he drank poison to leave the cruel world he lived in.
Godot and Dahlia......hm.....
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In case of
, if he voluntarily became an assassin, wouldn't that mean that he enjoys killing people? Or was he just raised to be one?
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In case of , if he voluntarily became an assassin, wouldn't that mean that he enjoys killing people? Or was he just raised to be one?
No, it just means killing is what he's good at and does for a living.
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Furio, by the way, ISN'T EVIL. (I resent that!) He was just trying to save his ass, and wasn't thinking straight.
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I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
And Furio wasn't just trying to save himself. He had no real reason to kill Glen, yet he did. He could have easily just stolen the software, and bolted out the door. Glen couldn't have done anything about it.
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And Furio wasn't just trying to save himself. He had no real reason to kill Glen, yet he did. He could have easily just stolen the software, and bolted out the door. Glen couldn't have done anything about it.
Yeah, I agree. To be honest, I think Glen would've just chucked him the disc anyway and kept the money. I know that's what I would've done.
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Agent Macbeth wrote:
Tigre is an intimidating powerhouse of orange-skinned muscle with a fiery temper to match. He didn't take smack from anyone: If you didn't pay with money, you would pay him with your life. He manipulated a girl who had her full trust in him and he used her to get away with murder; and he even beat the law by staging a phony trial with a PAPER BADGE of all things! The fact he didn't give a rat's ass about her - or anyone else for that matter - proves how cold-blooded he is.
Dude, why do you think Tigre is my favorite?
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GearsoftheApparatus wrote:
Furio x Iris
>:/
I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
And Furio wasn't just trying to save himself. He had no real reason to kill Glen, yet he did. He could have easily just stolen the software, and bolted out the door. Glen couldn't have done anything about it.
>:/
I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
And Furio wasn't just trying to save himself. He had no real reason to kill Glen, yet he did. He could have easily just stolen the software, and bolted out the door. Glen couldn't have done anything about it.
I don't like Furio X Iris either. She was just the only one who'd fit. >:
And as I said, he wasn't thinking straight.
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From what we gathered, in the PW universe, murderers get the death penalty and faster than normal. (If it wasn't for the fact that there are overinfluencial, evil prosecutors and our clients are, for the most part, innocent, that'd be a dream come true for me.) So let's see what the results would be:
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If you cannot see my point, it's that these good people would be dead and buried because someone else framed them. Either that, or they'd rot in jail for many, many years. I have no idea what it would be like, but to be imprisoned for something horrible that you didn't do? The worst part of it is, most of these people could never kill anyone, especially when it was people they loved and/or respected.
To sum it all up, in the best way possible:
Redd White planned to murder Mia Fey because she had discovered his corrupt life. He did so, and then planned to have her little sister take the fall. Maya Fey, only 17, would spend the rest of her life in jail and possibly executed, because her sister was murdered by a tyrant who would continue his path of blackmail, possible suicides, and money-making profits. Redd White wins, Maya Fey dies, and that would be the end of the Fey sisters. He would essencially be killing both of them.
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Yeah, I agree. To be honest, I think Glen would've just chucked him the disc anyway and kept the money. I know that's what I would've done.
You would have willingly given up a disc that was worth several million dollars, just because you won $500,000? Glen's a compulsive gambler, remember. There's no way he would have just given it up after going through the trouble of making it.
And to be honest, I don't think that Tigre not giving a shit about Viola makes him evil or heartless. As far as we know, SHE ran into HIM. It was because of her that Tigre had a death sentence hanging over her head. He wasn't sucking up to her and leading her on to be a jackass--he was trying not to get killed. I don't blame him at all for hating her.
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MikeMeekinsFan wrote:
I didn't really think Tigre or Luke was all that evil TBH they were more like petty thieves.
While I agree with you in that Tigre wasn't evil, it's a bit silly to call him a petty thief.
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Tigre used Viola, and manipulated with her to kill Glen.
Tigre didn't manipulate her, and she didn't kill Glen. Viola willingly co-operated in a reconstruction of the crime scene to implicate Maggey. Tigre went out with Viola for fear of her grandfather, I wouldn't exactly call that Tigre using her, if anything, it's the other way around.
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DarzieP wrote:
MikeMeekinsFan wrote:
I didn't really think Tigre or Luke was all that evil TBH they were more like petty thieves.
While I agree with you in that Tigre wasn't evil, it's a bit silly to call him a petty thief.
EricaP wrote:
Tigre used Viola, and manipulated with her to kill Glen.
Tigre didn't manipulate her, and she didn't kill Glen. Viola willingly co-operated in a reconstruction of the crime scene to implicate Maggey. Tigre went out with Viola for fear of her grandfather, I wouldn't exactly call that Tigre using her, if anything, it's the other way around.
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GearsoftheApparatus wrote:
Furio x Iris
>:/
I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
>:/
I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
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Spoiler: 3-5
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Agent Macbeth wrote:
GearsoftheApparatus wrote:
Furio x Iris
>:/
I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
>:/
I don't think I've ever objected to pairing quite so strongly.
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Spoiler: 3-5
Nope, not much sense at all.
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Now, Matt/Dahlia, THAT would be an unholy union of awesome.
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DarzieP wrote:
MikeMeekinsFan wrote:
I didn't really think Tigre or Luke was all that evil TBH they were more like petty thieves.
While I agree with you in that Tigre wasn't evil, it's a bit silly to call him a petty thief.
I suppose at the time I couldn't think of the right word. I guess I meant Luke more then Tigre
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Croik wrote:
If it makes you feel better, you're not the first one with a Tigre/Dahlia avatar I've seen. Though I wouldn't think Tigre is rich enough for Dahlia to be interested in him XD.
Now, Matt/Dahlia, THAT would be an unholy union of awesome.
Now, Matt/Dahlia, THAT would be an unholy union of awesome.
Hehehe...Sprite idea!
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She is THE EVIL ONE. Did you see the end of 3-5?
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I thought Matt Engarde would be some little innocent guy, but that part in the detention center when he slicks back his hair and he's some self centered ass-hole who cares only about his image and thinks he can get off easy...He was just wicked. I thought Gant was evil but Engarde really, for me was one of the most ruthless characters ever...but i have not beaten 3 yet ((still on 3-1)) so I cant comment on any of the characters in that
Gant... Seriously, he is REALLY close to Engarde, Engarde was just stupid and had a pretty boy outside, Gant was a nice man, Chief of police for god's sake but I almost leapt up and cheered when I finished that case and it turns out Gant did it..What he did was horrible, he was trusting back then but became a killer...Him alone was one of the reasons I absolutely "Rise from the Ashes". He was a great villian.
As for Manfred? yeah, I can't begin to describe him..he was just...
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Also, here's a great essay about the types of evil in liturature. http://velvet-mace.livejournal.com/162148.html
Of all the bad guys in PW, I think the charecter closest to being evil is
because she kills just because its convenient. "Hey, I need my necklace back, so instead of asking for it back, I'll kill someone! :D" Not even Matt is so cavalier (and careless) about murder.
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Of all the bad guys in PW, I think the charecter closest to being evil is because she kills just because its convenient. "Hey, I need my necklace back, so instead of asking for it back, I'll kill someone! :D" Not even Matt is so cavalier (and careless) about murder.
I think Dahlia's more paranoid than cavalier. In every instance, minus her attempted murder of Maya, she killed because there was a possibility, however remote, that she might be exposed. Terry might have revealed the truth about the kidnapping, hence she pulled the "You don't trust me anymore? That makes me sad." card. Valerie got a knife in the back because she was going to come clean about the whole kidnapping affair. Doug Swallow needed to die because he knew about some of Dahlia's crimes and had just told someone else, Phoenix. As long as Phoenix had and proudly displayed the pendant Dahlia gave him, the possibility existed that someone could find out about her poisoning Diego, who she poisoned to get off her trail.
Every one of Dahlia's plans save the last includes a (sometimes improvised) "safety valve," a way of removing anyone who might cast suspicion on her. If one accepts the admittedly paranoid reasoning, her actions appear more logical and less cavalier.
Also, Matt drove a woman to suicide for his own amusement. At least Dahlia had the relative "decency" to drive a man to suicide to save her own skin.
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