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Not Saiban, Phoenix. And if you're looking for good books, isn't there a good books thread you could visit/create? I'd post in it...
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Sorry for getting the name wrong. :sadshoe: I just was looking at something else at the moment. But a good books thread would be good.
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No hard feelings, and yes, yes it would. I still can't remember the name of that horrible book that I was forced to read...
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Jenna_Darknight wrote:
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Tragical History of Doctor Faustus. Marlowe isn't all that great, he had potential, but most of the works he turned out during his lifetime come acorss as pompous and tend to pontificate a bit. I'm not crazy about him, but he's okay. I'd recommend Goethe's Faust instead if you want to read a play on the Faust legend.


You didn't like Marlowe's Faustus?

Wow. Personally, I loved it.
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Well, I read Goethe's Faust first and....wow, it's really good. It's not only the tale of Human weakness but Goethe manages to satirize society and its follies at the same time. Marlowe's is nowhere near as refined, so I had really high expectations coming in. It's not bad, per se, I just was severely disappointed. His Jew of Malta was bad too, Shakespeare ripped it off and ended up making Merchant of Venice (which I love) so I can sort of forgive it, but Marlowe isn't all that good compared to some of the other playwrights of the time.
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Where The Red Fern Grows was sad. But, still I didn't like it. I dunno what it is about it, but there's just something about it I don't care for.
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The Lord of the Flies

I had to read it twice D:
Once in 8th grade and again when I was a Sophmore.
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Ugh. I read Crispin. I HATED it. It was just bad to me.
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Orwell does better social commentary, I think.
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UGH...I read so many crap books... But my worsts have got to be Things Fall Apart (boring little book with a very anti-climactic message and moral: White people=bad), I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings ( Love her writing, but found the actual story to be very boring), and the worst of the worst, The Color Purple. Those were the ones that stuck out in my mind as terrible, but I remember reading some pretty terrible essays as well.
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I have to agree with you on I know Why The Caged Bird Sings. Maya Angelou is a phenomenal poet, and I like her work a lot...but her autobiography was just depressing and was not an enjoyable or enlightening read.
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Fearlololoki wrote:
UGH...I read so many crap books... But my worsts have got to be Things Fall Apart (boring little book with a very anti-climactic message and moral: White people=bad), I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings ( Love her writing, but found the actual story to be very boring), and the worst of the worst, The Color Purple. Those were the ones that stuck out in my mind as terrible, but I remember reading some pretty terrible essays as well.


AH! You've just reminded me of a shitty book I read in the 10th grade. It was called A Separate Peace. It was awful. The story was very weak, stupid things happened, and one of the main characters dies in the most anti-climactic way. Some guy is jealous of his friend and decides to push him - or bump, rather - off a tree. Instead, the guy ends up breaking his leg (or some body part. I forget which) and the whole story revolves around these two college students trying to get along even though one is jealous of the other. Overall, it was a waste of time.

Also, this spoiler is so bad I won't even tag it. The guy who fell off a tree and broke his leg was having someone try to fix it back into his socket. The doctor fails and ends up killing him because bone marrow seeped into his blood veins. What the shit?
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I think it's safe to say that 90% of the books we hate were foisted on us by the education system...am I right?
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CORRECT.

Not all books forced on me by the education system have been bad.


But I did NOT like that one where the main character was Abbie Deal. Don't remember the name of it, sorry.
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Rebel Vanguard wrote:
The Giver was awesome!

But I have to say... To Kill a Mockingbird...

WAY TOO BORING FOR MY TASTES


*LE GASP*

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THAT BOOK IS GOLD! (and the movie shines brighter)

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The Boxcar Children series. I remember how they made us read those in elementary school. I hated it. About any book that has gotten a Newberry award is going to suck major ass. It's like an award for most boring book created that year. Then about anything by Emerson.


I acctually forced myself in like 3rd grade to read the first one, then I tried the 2nd one but could never get past the 2nd chapter.... It was way too cliche. Seriously, a bunch of siblings are abandoned then go live in a boxcar then just HAPPEN to find their freakin rich relative? The whole series was a joke, THEY ONLY LIVED IN THE BOXCAR FOR THE FIRST DAMN BOOK!!

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I also didn't like The Cay by Theodore Taylor.


Looking back, I think I like that alot more now then I did when I first read it (which was 6th grade I think), it probably is a bit slow and just plain boring for most, alot of "stranded on a deserted island" books are =P



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I refuse to read anything by Steinbeck after reading "Of Mice and Men" because I hated it just that much.


Read that sophmore year, and it wasn't that bad. We're about to read Grapes of Wrath, I'm afraid xD

For some reason, "Of Mice and Men" acctually interested me, for some strange wierd reason. Overall the story is just plain dumb and dull, but there were parts that I really liked for some reason.

We're put thru the torture of reading Steinbeck because of its historical content and alot of the "good lessons" that they contain =P Despite being boring as hell.

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Anything by Anne Rice or Stephen King.

Anne Rice because she's just plain shite, and Stephen King because he's R.L Stine but with profanity sprinkled through his works.



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I don't like to remember terrible books I had to read, but the ones that were so bad have been ingrained into my mind. Here they are:

The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
I blame my 11th grade English for tormenting us with 'The American Dream' theme throughout the year. This wasn't a bad book but I just couldn't sit down and read it. Maybe because it was a school reading assignment and not something I would do in my free time.


We acctually just finished that book the other week in my class. My teacher as well put "The American Dream" like 3546598 times on both the reviews and the exam itself. That book was hardly about the stupid american dream, there were many other topics that book addressed that were WAY more important and way more emphasized than the "American Dream", I think thats where I got lost. I was looking for everything BUT a general idea of the american dream presented in the book. I THINK I got it, but I really didn't care. I was more absorbed in the characters and culture of that era rather then the stupid vauge underlying theme.


I guess I'm more of a leisure reader, I do read for the content but unless its something very deep that really affects me, I could care LESS about analyzing it.

And FUCK RHETORICAL STRATEGIES :zenitora: NO. ONE. CARES. (99% of us, even in our AP class, don't plan on becoming professional writers!!!)




For me, the most boring book I've ever read that I can think of, in school and just in general would be The Martian Chronicles. OMFG :larry: I WANTED TO BLOW MY BRAINS OUT. Boring as hell, the only interesting part was the chapter where it described in detail the effects of the nuclear war specificaly on your regular average neighborhood. Seriously, that was the only part that I thought was any good.

It was poorly written, IMO, there was WAY too much going on. The central conflict was pretty clear, you knew the stem of the big situation, but it was filled with so many subplots and 3954967 characters it got too crazy, it was totally uninteresting.
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DefenseNeverRests wrote:
I also didn't like The Cay by Theodore Taylor.


Yeah, it's kinda boring at the first chapters, but it gets kinda good as it gets further. A really bad book is The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett. I read the "unabridge" version with old-fashioned English. It's really boring an really long...Took me about 1 month to finish it....
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I guess I'm more of a leisure reader, I do read for the content but unless its something very deep that really affects me, I could care LESS about analyzing it.

And FUCK RHETORICAL STRATEGIES :zenitora: NO. ONE. CARES. (99% of us, even in our AP class, don't plan on becoming professional writers!!!)


lol, because you'll never need to ever put together a well versed and written report, document, or anything for the rest of your life? Man, this is what I love about teaching Freshmen in college; statements like this. Rhetorical strategies! Who needs them! I'll never write anything remotely important, useful, or at the very least, useful, in my entire life! I don't need to know these things! I'm going to get a business degree! Hell, I also never want to be able to engage in any sort of "adult" debate either, so pooh-pooh on these "rhetorical" strategies!

Also, I still find it hilarious that "high school / AP reading" can be considered deep, when it's nothing more than a New Criticism symbol hunt. If we use this as an analogy to digging, you think you've gone to China when you've hit twelve inches into your front yard.
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Also, I still find it hilarious that "high school / AP reading" can be considered deep, when it's nothing more than a New Criticism symbol hunt. If we use this as an analogy to digging, you think you've gone to China when you've hit twelve inches into your front yard.


Comparing the reading I've done in college to my honors/AP stuff...I'm inclined to agree. While some of the material you read is genuinely good material that a lot can be taken from (i.e. Hamlet, Moby Dick). The way they teach you the material leaves a lot to be desired as you barely even scratch the surface, and most teachers are prepared to say, "This is the way you read this work. This way and only this way." It's a shame, really.
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Also, I still find it hilarious that "high school / AP reading" can be considered deep, when it's nothing more than a New Criticism symbol hunt. If we use this as an analogy to digging, you think you've gone to China when you've hit twelve inches into your front yard.


Comparing the reading I've done in college to my honors/AP stuff...I'm inclined to agree. While some of the material you read is genuinely good material that a lot can be taken from (i.e. Hamlet, Moby Dick). The way they teach you the material leaves a lot to be desired as you barely even scratch the surface, and most teachers are prepared to say, "This is the way you read this work. This way and only this way." It's a shame, really.

Depending on which language literature you study, it stays the same if you're going for a bachelor's.
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I'm an English Major with an Emphasis on Celtic Lit. And so far my professors have given me several different interpretations of the work and we've discussed the merits and disadvantages of each. I don't know, maybe it just depends on your professors.
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I'm an English Major with an Emphasis on Celtic Lit. And so far my professors have given me several different interpretations of the work and we've discussed the merits and disadvantages of each. I don't know, maybe it just depends on your professors.

True. Then again, we're not in the same language at all when it comes to our majors... French lit major here.
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ah, that might be part of it.
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This topic is beginning to scare me away from an English Major.
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I really enjoy it and I think this topic makes it look worse than it is.
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the book 'My Antonia' is the worst peice of literature i ever read.

The first 15 pages are the narrorator describing the area of his picnic. someone says, "what ever happened to your friend antonia". then the guy starts talking about how he went directly home and looked through his journals and starts talking about his friend. Every few chapters starts with him describing the season for like 10 pages, and then going on about a story of him and antonia. Then he says goodbye and that he will probably never see her again. then, at the beggining of the next chapter, he rambles on about unnecesary details about the setting, and then reintroduces antonia, they do something, and then he says that he'll never see her again. then a new chapter starts, and so on.... and so on....

1. there are too many unnecessary details
2. there is no concise plot to the story
3. there is on conflict, climax, resolution or any enjoyable part about the book
4. it drags on forever

DON"T READ THIS BOOK
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
This topic is beginning to scare me away from an English Major.


It's not an easy degree to get, at least after getting a BA. And a BA in Lit is good for one thing: Getting an MA in English Lit.
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the book 'My Antonia' is the worst peice of literature i ever read.

The first 15 pages are the narrorator describing the area of his picnic. someone says, "what ever happened to your friend antonia". then the guy starts talking about how he went directly home and looked through his journals and starts talking about his friend. Every few chapters starts with him describing the season for like 10 pages, and then going on about a story of him and antonia. Then he says goodbye and that he will probably never see her again. then, at the beggining of the next chapter, he rambles on about unnecesary details about the setting, and then reintroduces antonia, they do something, and then he says that he'll never see her again. then a new chapter starts, and so on.... and so on....

1. there are too many unnecessary details
2. there is no concise plot to the story
3. there is on conflict, climax, resolution or any enjoyable part about the book
4. it drags on forever

DON"T READ THIS BOOK

I will then recommend to you La Comédie Humaine by Honoré de Balzac. Or even better, the entire "À la recherche du Temps Perdu" by Marcel Proust.

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It's not an easy degree to get, at least after getting a BA. And a BA in Lit is good for one thing: Getting an MA in English Lit.

And this is mainly where our differences lie. The French Lit BA'll allow you a lot of possible MA choices (Comparative Lit, French Lit, etc.) whereas the Linguistics BA'll only net you the Linguistics MA.

That's all IIRC, mind you.
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Well, a BA in English Lit will let you into a myriad of MA programs, but they're all pretty much different facets of an MA of Lit.

In my college, for instance, there are three--Creative Writing, Rhetoric and Composition, and Literature. Other schools are structured the same way, with the Lit. program usually being a 'jack of all trades,' but to a further extent the MA in Lit is not a 'master of none.' Rhet. Comp and CW are sort of "specialized," where Lit is Specialized in Literature but able to do all of the others extremely well.

It's like getting a tool kit instead of a degree--Lit majors get the giant tool kit from sears PLUS the free power drill and hand saw. The others are just one or the other.
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The Giver was awesome!

But I have to say... To Kill a Mockingbird...

WAY TOO BORING FOR MY TASTES


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I love To Kill a Mocking Bird. It's a great work and I found it easy to get into.
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I always disliked the Shannara series.
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I love To Kill a Mocking Bird. It's a great work and I found it easy to get into.

Ya, my brother liked it. I can't wait to read it in High school.
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^.^ I suggest reading it for fun now, before school tries to suck all the fun out of it. The movie with Gergory Peck is good too.
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I refuse to read anything by Steinbeck after reading "Of Mice and Men" because I hated it just that much.


That book is like reading about a train wreck that's going to happen. You can see it coming and you want to stop it but you can't because the 11th grade english teacher requires that you read this crap and watch the crap movie.
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Gosh, I'm surprised what gets handed out at school randomly based on this thread! What next? Gulliver's Travels? Brideshead Revisited? Far From The Madding Crowd? (God forbid) Wuthering Heights??? :hotti: :godot:[/quote]

Do remember what this book was about? I think it was about some guy in a male boarding or military school who was depressed and committed suicide and his friend was trying to figure out why or something but I can't quite remember.
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