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Back on topic-I personally think Phoenix is smart...to a point. After all, he has the smarts where he can "turnabout" the tables in his favor even though it seems impossible. But, honestly, in some respects, he seems like an idiot taken straight from high school and given a badge and a suit. Sometimes he's incredibly slow to catch onto things, he makes huge blunders both in the world (like showing critical evidence to the actual suspects and criminals, as has already been said) and in the courtroom. Half the time, when he makes an argument, I could find a fatal flaw in it that the prosecution could use to win the case. They don't, but still. So...I think Phoenix's smarts come out at really, really crucial moments. But others, they just seem to...fade.
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On that note, why did Mia know how to cross-examine in her first case but not her second? ô_o
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That's just a theory, though.
And we know a bar exam exists in the game, at least in the American localization, as that's what she doubts you on when you forget the basics of the court.
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That's not necessarily true. I haven't played 1.4 in quite some time, but
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That's some pretty big evidence.
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....... that 9-year-old part is a bit weird, actually.
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As far as law school,
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I agree. He must be smart.
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If I may snitch a bit of something from wikipedia, regarding the guy whose life served as the basis for Catch Me If You Can:
If that's the case, then I don't see how Phoenix would have had a hard time passing. It's not said that he passed at the top of his class, and he isn't touted as a genius like Edgeworth was.
All he had to do was get by.
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Back on topic-I personally think Phoenix is smart...to a point. After all, he has the smarts where he can "turnabout" the tables in his favor even though it seems impossible. But, honestly, in some respects, he seems like an idiot taken straight from high school and given a badge and a suit. Sometimes he's incredibly slow to catch onto things, he makes huge blunders both in the world (like showing critical evidence to the actual suspects and criminals, as has already been said) and in the courtroom. Half the time, when he makes an argument, I could find a fatal flaw in it that the prosecution could use to win the case. They don't, but still. So...I think Phoenix's smarts come out at really, really crucial moments. But others, they just seem to...fade.
Phoenix has what I like to call "Selective Intelligence"
Besides, if he used up all his smarts figuring out ways to add to the Kurain "Ways to Save Money" list he'd have no smarts left for court, when it really matters.
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I mean, going by US canon, he'd have studied law and passed the bar in California on the first try? That sucker'll eat you alive, whether you're trying to actually do well or... just trying to pass. D:
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As Edgeworth said in a fan fic I read a while back, Poker is the perfect game for Nick. It requires two things. Bluffing and sheer luck. Which was proven when Nick royally owned Edgey in the game.
Phoenix isn't the sharpest pencil on the desk, but he does have a good amount of logic and common sense, which is pretty rare these days. It's things like this that make him such an interesting attorney and character.
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I think first of all, that the stuff about the Bar and all that can kinda be flushed, in Phoenix Wright, the year 2017, cases happen a couple days after the crime since there were so many piling up (If I'm not mistaken of course) and thus, with so many cases that have piled up, and new ones coming in every day, one has to figure that since they are trying to keep up, there would be more lawyers, but for there to be more lawyers, the standards would have to come down on how hard it is to become a lawyer. Chances are, Phoenix wright focuses on only one Court, who knows what sort of folks are in other courts.
If you'll notice, in the games, most the Legal Jargon (Party of the first Part, party of the second part, bla bla bla bla bla) had been dropped (Mostly for the player, but let's pretend here) for use of more simple terms (suspect, victim, ect.)
The rules on evidence presentation seem quite different, as well as acquisition thereof (Since the Attorney's go out and beat the street to get their own info to build their cases)
It also seems that things have changed as well in the fact that almost every Client is Guilty until proven innocent, and it seems like the burden of proof is on the defense, or perhaps that's just Phoenix's luck with clients.
Not to mention the fact that it seems like every case is watched like a Sporting event by people who don't seem to make any difference to jack aside from occasionally Jeering one of the Attorneys (Much like a sporting event again)
All this adds up to, in the future, the law system is very different, thus, the bar could be as simple as training under a attorney until you're ready to take it, and then it's probably multiple choice with questions like...
"If you are cross examining a witness and there is a CONTRADICTION, what do you do?
A. Shout OBJECTION! and present evidence to prove them wrong.
B. Shout WAFFLES and toss a shoe at the judge
C. Whip the snot out of everyone in your way"
(This was the only question that
missed...)Thus, all this means is that there's a decent chance that while not EASY, it doesn't seem as if it would be HARD to be an attorney in Phoenix land (I mean jeez, look at Payne...)
So, having presented that evidence, I move to my next testimony.
Phoenix, by Phoenix-land Lawyer standards, I feel is very sharp, but then, we're not given many people to compare him to, Mia's dead, the big guy from the second case in the first game we never see in action, and I haven't played the 3rd game yet.
But, my feelings is, Phoenix is good at what he does, outsmarting people at the last second with a little help now and then, and drilling people till they spill the beans. As far as common sense, we have to suppose he's no good with money (He's constantly complaining about it when Maya talks about expensive things) Not great socially (It seems his only close friend is his Mentor's sister) Not super sharp with street smarts (Sure, show Manfred Von Karma that you've got everything you need to put him away, that'll totally make him NOT want to tazer you.)
As to why he sometimes messes up, he strikes me as a very emotional person, who cares deeply about honor, justice, and the people he cares about, his passion for the law that was brought out as to why in the first game, is quite clear, so he doesn't seem the type that would willingly represent anyone that was guilty.
His devotion to people he cares about is clear from the fourth case in the second game, as...
However, in spite of his failings, I do generally think he's smart, not because he has a lot of info in his mind, but because he picks up on things especially quickly and has a knack for piecing things together that one wouldn't normally come to if they weren't pretty sharp.
Oddly enough, some of his more crazy idea's I come to before he does...maybe I should study Law in 2017...
Anyway, my two cents, just while I'm here. Thanks for reading ^_^
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