some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:53 am

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who didn't like case 3 besides me?if so then post your reasons

people who like case 3:6
people who hate it:9
people who liked it but hated moe:5

moe is liked by more then i thought.(i don't hate moe...just the case he's in)

what do i is called rollplaying, i really don't think i am richard.

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Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:57 am

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i liked the case, but only annoying one was moe. shouldnt this be in Kurain section?

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Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:58 am

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Ace Prosecutor wrote:

i liked the case, but only annoying one was moe. shouldnt this be in Kurain section?

should it?i don't know i'm sorry! Larry

edit:it got moved

what do i is called rollplaying, i really don't think i am richard.

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Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JF

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:59 am

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The Berry (I still think it is Engrish) Case...

hmm... I'm still at it and I've loved some parts of the case

Spoiler:

But I hate the part whe Moe at the courts - basically the punishments by judgey....

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Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:34 am

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I didn't like Ben or Trilo to be honest.

Spoiler:

It just left a bad taste in my mouth.

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:53 am

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I hated it, Max was a bit of an ass... I kinda got used to him at the end of the case as he explain why he thought that way to the other members, but that was still cruel what he did to Ben.

Spoiler: Real murderer

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:50 am

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I hated that case.

Firstly, there is Regina, being so innocent it makes me throw up.

Spoiler:

Then, there is that magician.

Spoiler:

What brings me to Ben and Trilo.

Spoiler:

And there's Russell.

Spoiler:

Meet Acro.

Spoiler:

Not to mention that stupid clown.

Spoiler:

Fact: Berry's Big Circus sucks.

Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:22 pm

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The whole case was just terrible. It's definitely my least favorite case in the series, except maybe 1-1... and that's only due to the fact that it's one giant tutorial.

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:46 pm

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=P I liked this case. It was fun.

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:07 pm

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It wasn't my favorite. Trilo freaked me out, and MOE was just ANNOYING AS HELL. It wasn't that exciting either.
But I did like Max lol Pshhh...

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:15 pm

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I liked case 3. I liked everyone (including Moe) but I HATED Regina. She's not cute. She's annoying. I hope Regent bites her prissy little head off and she becomes a corpse rotting in the ground, not a star in the sky. n___n;

Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JF

Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:20 pm

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Spoiler: acro

DANG ANNOYING! Only thing i like about his is West Clownadelphia born and raised.

Regina

Too...how do i put this..dumb.

Ben

I actually had no problem with Ben. Trilo was wierd but funny.

Pshhh...

...I don't like this guy.

Russel : Good Man

Overall : Except for the annoying AHA and penalized for Moe's stupid AHA jokes it was good. So i'm in the category of liked the case except for moe

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:27 pm

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Despite the fact that Regina is annoying and I absolutely hate Acro, I really did enjoy 2-3. I thought the concept was fantastic - just digging through the layers of the circus' dynamic made it all kinds of awesome for me.

And I love Moe and Max to death. There's that.

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:10 pm

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Case 3 was funny, the only thing that bothered me was Ben and Trilo! One don't talk and the other don't shut up, I always get mad when I NEED to get the doll to continue the case! If I could I would put it on fire >=D

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:23 pm

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At first I thought Pshhh...

would be most annoying at first glance but his character was pretty funny.

Spoiler:

but then this case was still crap because there was no suprising twists and the characters were a bit umm...not great but better than this atrocity at least Wendy Oldbag

Spoiler:

cloud

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Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:46 am

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I actually rather liked Turnabout Big Top. To me, it's the "filler" cases that usually make the game (the emotion-squeezing drama in Cases 2 and 4 are good, yes, but would anyone really appreciate it if every day in court had to pick at poor Wright's conscience?).

#1: There's the cast. Everyone seems to view them as annoying and nothing more, but that's because they can't handle their personalities. Yes, they're wacky. Usually hard to reason with. And even their traits are in the way. But would anyone have anything less? It's a circus, the case would be a wasted opportunity if the writers didn't explore the sheer possibilities with a circus cast.

Moe

Spoiler: If you don't want to see his character

#2: Acro.

Spoiler: Myeah, pretty much the entire case here

When I examined the map identifying his room, I systematically reasoned (correctly) that Acro had to be the murderer; I couldn't convince myself that anyone else had done it, or could do it in their mind or because they didn't have the opportunity. Then I began visioning Acro's character; a hard-training acrobat, constantly at work in a gym of sorts with impressive maneuvers. An isolationist, maybe even a bit egotistical, and more envious of the fame Max Galactica had gotten and soaked for the circus than anyone else.

I certainly did not imagine the incredibly calm, friendly, nice man in a wheelchair, unable to even leave a room by himself, to be the murderer. I even had my doubts as he communicated with his animal friends.

In Acro's defence, I issue the following. Most reason that Acro was way overboard with wanting to murder Regina. Yes, this is true, but they seem to ignore the situation, being unable to recognise it. Obviously Acro and Bat were very close as brothers. To Acro, what Regina did was essentially, for a bad analogy, run Bat down with a truck, not recognising he was there and shrugging it off, then pour a keg of urine over the man's carcass at the funeral, and refuse to even apologise, let alone consider she may have done wrong. I certainly would be pretty ticked off if I were Acro, no matter how collected I could be.

And finally, there was the final day where he is a witness. In my mind Acro has one of the best testimonies and rounds of truth-searching in the game, even if you do have it all figured out. He essentially weeds out the genuises from the bluffers, the conspiracy-crackers who try and meet Wright's standards against those who just go with the flow when they can't search for Gamefaq hints (not trying to offend anyone, by any means; sorry if I am).

But the trait I think I liked best about Acro was his, so to speak, realism. Yes, he's being accused of murder. But as a 'hardman' with three days to prepare, he's more than prepared for the worst. Despite how swiftly the terrifying finger is pointed, he still keeps his cool and is one of the very few witnesses/murderers/people ANYWHERE who commend Wright's efforts. Acro was hard to beat if all you look at is his face (he only ever flinches once, and then Franziska intervenes). And when one had managed to reason the location of the murder weapon...Victory feels far more bitter than it should be. At the end of the day, I felt I was convicting a good man who was but partially misguided.

Aaand will return eventually. Watch this space.

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Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:31 pm

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Spoiler: 2-3

I've always considered Moe the most mature one of the troop - yes, even more mature than Acro - because Moe knows how to gauge himself. He is a clown, there's no arguing that, but the fact of the matter is that he knows he's awful at what he does. He's aware that no one but himself laughs at his jokes. Yet he keeps telling them.

A lot of people discredit Moe for that considering the fact that his best friend had just been murdered, but there are (as with everything in that circus, it seems) layers to him. His personality, of course, is that of a slapstick performer. He's a clown through and through, and absolutely nothing will take that away from him - it's intrinsically part of his character. But there are other motives for him to continue to tell those horrible jokes.

After Russel's death, the circus, as stated, is basically about to fall apart at the seams. All the performers were connected at a single point - the Ringmaster - and suddenly that point was swept out from under their feet. Moe, being arguably the closest to Russell (next to Regina, of course), and also the most senior member of the group, likely felt a certain sense of responsibility for the circus itself (hence his eventual decision to take over as the Ringmaster).

Since Moe is a clown (literally and firguratively speaking), he falls back on what he does best (or, at least, all he knows). He tells jokes. His horrible, corny jokes that only he (Maya?) laughs at. It's a combination of his attempt at being a role model - at showing the circus troop that there is life beyond Russel Berry - and just his ridiculous clowny character. As he says, just before Acro's appearance in court: everyone has to laugh, or they'll just be sad for the rest of their lives.

It isn't until he gets to court and no one is listening that he realizes that his defense mechanism isn't suitable to all situations. He realizes that this trial is important - that it will decide who will lose their life in reparation for Russel's. That's when we start to see his real maturity poke through, and when he starts to think seriously about taking over the Ringmaster position.

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Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:18 pm

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Pineapple Box wrote:

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Spoiler: 2-3

I've always considered Moe the most mature one of the troop - yes, even more mature than Acro - because Moe knows how to gauge himself. He is a clown, there's no arguing that, but the fact of the matter is that he knows he's awful at what he does. He's aware that no one but himself laughs at his jokes. Yet he keeps telling them.

A lot of people discredit Moe for that considering the fact that his best friend had just been murdered, but there are (as with everything in that circus, it seems) layers to him. His personality, of course, is that of a slapstick performer. He's a clown through and through, and absolutely nothing will take that away from him - it's intrinsically part of his character. But there are other motives for him to continue to tell those horrible jokes.

After Russel's death, the circus, as stated, is basically about to fall apart at the seams. All the performers were connected at a single point - the Ringmaster - and suddenly that point was swept out from under their feet. Moe, being arguably the closest to Russell (next to Regina, of course), and also the most senior member of the group, likely felt a certain sense of responsibility for the circus itself (hence his eventual decision to take over as the Ringmaster).

Since Moe is a clown (literally and firguratively speaking), he falls back on what he does best (or, at least, all he knows). He tells jokes. His horrible, corny jokes that only he (Maya?) laughs at. It's a combination of his attempt at being a role model - at showing the circus troop that there is life beyond Russel Berry - and just his ridiculous clowny character. As he says, just before Acro's appearance in court: everyone has to laugh, or they'll just be sad for the rest of their lives.

It isn't until he gets to court and no one is listening that he realizes that his defense mechanism isn't suitable to all situations. He realizes that this trial is important - that it will decide who will lose their life in reparation for Russel's. That's when we start to see his real maturity poke through, and when he starts to think seriously about taking over the Ringmaster position.

I feel foolish for thinking I could have ever phrased it better than that.

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Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:24 pm

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Hehe, thank you. X3 I love Moe to bits, and your rendition of his character made me want to rant about him.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:43 am

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Dr. Mancusio is my favorite new poster.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:08 pm

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Big Top Turnabout wasn't that bad. Admittedly I guessed the killer far more quickly than I did in a few of the other cases (Rise from the Ashes, Turnabout Samurai) but that didn’t make it horrible. Personally, I’m a Moe fan... I kind of felt bad for him the whole time.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:41 pm

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I liked the case. The only part I didn't like was the cross-examination of Moe. You get penalized for simply pressing him on one subject. Funny that in a game called 'Justice For All' there was not a shred of justice in that segment.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:04 pm

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Regina was annoying, especially the fact that everyone loved her and she was so stupid (or 'innocent'). And Trilo and Moe were annoying...even Max.
I did not like this case.
I tried to get through it as quick as possible so I could move on to the fourth one, which I had heard was riveting.
Maybe it's just because I don't like circuses in general?

However, as my avatar shows, I did get some laugh-out-loud moments from it.

Spoiler:

It wasn't TOO BAD. It just wasn't my favourite case.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:15 pm

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Agreed: Dr. Mancusio gets my commendations.

Max Galactica = Jeffree Star, no doubt about it.

As for the case itself, I enjoyed it. I'm a sucker for anything Phoenix Wright, really, but I can also discern the good from the bad. I agree that the case felt almost bittersweet. A bit sillier than others, but you need that release between 2 and 4, I think.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:16 pm

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I just couldn't hate any case with a camp guy and the Phoenix Wright cast. I'm too kind to them, but its because of a weird type of love ^_^

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:37 pm

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And in case no one feels like searching: http://www.myspace.com/jeffreestar, a.k.a. the real-world equivalent of Pshhh...

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:40 pm

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Plankton614 wrote:

And in case no one feels like searching: http://www.myspace.com/jeffreestar, a.k.a. the real-world equivalent of Pshhh...

*pukes his lunch out* Beef

what do i is called rollplaying, i really don't think i am richard.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:50 pm

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Plankton614 wrote:

And in case no one feels like searching: http://www.myspace.com/jeffreestar, a.k.a. the real-world equivalent of Pshhh...

.. That man .. is a disgrace!

If you come across an older post of mine, sowwy

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:59 pm

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I enjoyed playing Turnabout Big Top, just not the talking with Moe part.

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Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:01 am

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The one thing that really annoyed me is that somebody literally just comes up and tells you who the killer is. Couldn't you at least let us guess?
Moe

: He did it.
Oops

Well, okay then!

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Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:10 am

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Ugh. I hated that case.

I thought it was a terrible thing for being the third case.

(The third case of the first game is one of my favorites)

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Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:05 am

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I might have just appreciated that it was the fun, silly case of this game and left it at that.
But I was constantly irritated to say the least about how the whole circus kept going on about how WONDERFUL Russel Berry was...and then while the trial for his MURDER was going on they spent their time cracking jokes and marrying puppets and marrying people through puppets and complaining about people marrying puppets and talking about monkies stealing things...oh, and did I mention CRACKING JOKES? D< Honestly, I've heard of bad timing, but. Some of them redeemed themselves at the end a bit, like Max explaining why he pushed the performers the way he did, Moe actually having a few serious moments when talking about Regina, and Regina saying she would stay by Acro, but. Other than that. Not to mention the mystery/gameplay itself...didn't seem to compare to the others imo.

But anyway, bashing aside, it was a nice little case but that's about it.

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Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:15 am

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That man .. is a disgrace!

XD He's the coolest man under the sun! He has to be pretty damn confident to post himself on myspace liekt hat ^_^ I say go him!

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Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:43 pm

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Pineapple Box wrote:

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Spoiler: 2-3

I've always considered Moe the most mature one of the troop - yes, even more mature than Acro - because Moe knows how to gauge himself. He is a clown, there's no arguing that, but the fact of the matter is that he knows he's awful at what he does. He's aware that no one but himself laughs at his jokes. Yet he keeps telling them.

A lot of people discredit Moe for that considering the fact that his best friend had just been murdered, but there are (as with everything in that circus, it seems) layers to him. His personality, of course, is that of a slapstick performer. He's a clown through and through, and absolutely nothing will take that away from him - it's intrinsically part of his character. But there are other motives for him to continue to tell those horrible jokes.

After Russel's death, the circus, as stated, is basically about to fall apart at the seams. All the performers were connected at a single point - the Ringmaster - and suddenly that point was swept out from under their feet. Moe, being arguably the closest to Russell (next to Regina, of course), and also the most senior member of the group, likely felt a certain sense of responsibility for the circus itself (hence his eventual decision to take over as the Ringmaster).

Since Moe is a clown (literally and firguratively speaking), he falls back on what he does best (or, at least, all he knows). He tells jokes. His horrible, corny jokes that only he (Maya?) laughs at. It's a combination of his attempt at being a role model - at showing the circus troop that there is life beyond Russel Berry - and just his ridiculous clowny character. As he says, just before Acro's appearance in court: everyone has to laugh, or they'll just be sad for the rest of their lives.

It isn't until he gets to court and no one is listening that he realizes that his defense mechanism isn't suitable to all situations. He realizes that this trial is important - that it will decide who will lose their life in reparation for Russel's. That's when we start to see his real maturity poke through, and when he starts to think seriously about taking over the Ringmaster position.

That character analysis was absolutely beautiful. And shows perfectly why, despite my previous cynical post, I actually don't dislike Moe.

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Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:09 pm

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Mia Fey wrote:

The one thing that really annoyed me is that somebody literally just comes up and tells you who the killer is. Couldn't you at least let us guess?
Moe

: He did it.
Oops

Well, okay then!

You mean you hadn't at least thought about it beforehand? Ack

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Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:05 pm

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Liquidzilla wrote:

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That man .. is a disgrace!

XD He's the coolest man under the sun! He has to be pretty damn confident to post himself on myspace liekt hat ^_^ I say go him!

I dunno if he's THE coolest, but he's certainly a cool guy nonetheless. Strange as he may be, I'd wager that he's sort of a pink beacon of hope for those misfit teenagers that are ridiculed or put down for the way they view themselves and are thus viewed by the world. Jeffree shows the kids who lack hope that it's okay to be different (gay, ethnic, angry, depressed, etc.), and for that I commend him. He's a silly man. Gant

I didn't quite get that same vibe personality-wise from Max Galactica, but, physically speaking, that was my first thought.

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Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:23 pm

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You mean you hadn't at least thought about it beforehand?

I think most people did, after all he inherits the circus and everything.

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Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:26 pm

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this is a great case
Moe is Brilliant!

lol

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Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:36 pm

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Liquidzilla wrote:

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You mean you hadn't at least thought about it beforehand?

I think most people did, after all he inherits the circus and everything.

...Acro does what? o.o Am I missing something here?

Re: some about phoenix wright(beleave it or not)case 3 of JFA

Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:57 am

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Umm...I don't think that anyone in this case was actually bad...but Regina was annoying. Cute, but annoying. I felt so sorry for Acro, I'm not going to try to change anyones opinions on him but he's not a crybaby, I'm pretty sure that I would cry if the closest person to me was murdered, and the murderer (Regina) doesn't even care or say sorry because she has a dumb theory of people turning into stars. (No offence intended to Regina fans.)

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