Projected prison time for (Case 5 Spoiler)

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:23 pm

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Hello, everyone! I hope you guys can help me with a bit of research. What I need to know is how long Iris can be expect to be imprisoned after the last case in Trials and Tribulations. I'm sure other people asked themselves this as well, so maybe different opinions on this exist already. Of course, there's also GS4, which may or may not spoil that particular tidbit. If it does, I don't mind being spoilered about that particular fact; in fact, I'm asking you to tell me (no other spoilers please, though! I want to preserve my post-GS3 innocence!). And any precedents from the series that apply in Iris case are also welcome.

If this all has already been discussed somewhere else, it will be sufficient to point me in that direction.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:31 pm

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It was kiiind've discussed, but a comparison could be with Sal Manella, who, sadly, we ALSO have no clue as to how long he spent in prison.

Both Sal and Iris adjused the body somewhat, made the cause of death look different than it was, and both, also, moved the body.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:10 pm

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The title is a bit of a spoiler, but anyhow...

Adrian was charged with tampering with a crime scene and obstruction of justice, and she was out within half a year. Even though what Iris did was a bit more extreme, it boils down to essentially the same thing.

So I'd say probably a half year, maybe a year tops.

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Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:16 pm

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Adrian did less though. She wasn't an accomplice to a murder, unlike Sal.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:21 pm

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I can almost guarantee Iris didn't know in advance that Godot was going to kill someone and make her clean up the mess.

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Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:24 pm

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No, but she knew that he was going to stop Dahlia, and Iris agreed with her role of staying at the temple.

She also didn't reject Godot when he called her up and asked her to help move the body.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:27 pm

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Franzise Deuxnim wrote:

I can almost guarantee Iris didn't know in advance that Godot was going to kill someone and make her clean up the mess.

Err.... wasn't that the sole reason....

Spoiler:

I could be wrong, but I could've sworn he warned her, but she willingly did it anyway.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:33 pm

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I'm pretty sure it says somewhere in the game that

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:37 pm

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Covering for other people (two of whom were completely innocent) isn't the same as being directly responsible for murder.

SaviorGodot wrote:

Err.... wasn't that the sole reason....

Spoiler:

I could be wrong, but I could've sworn he warned her, but she willingly did it anyway.

Iris was supposed to take the fall in case Pearl did manage to channel Dahlia and kill Maya. That way at least they could have saved Pearl.

Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:39 pm

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This really should be labeled for spoilers...

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:48 pm

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Same as Sal! He simply did what he was asked to do, he probably went outside to see what the commotion was.

:sal:

OMG!!!

And then he saw Jack Hammer dead on the post, and Dee possibly even panicking.

:sal:

WTF???

Next, he helped Dee Vasquez discard the bloodied clothes, put on the suit, and also to discard her steak to make it look more like she didn't eat there.

:sal:

BBQ!!!

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:52 pm

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:58 pm

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No, you stated that iris wouldn't be in there for much longer than Adrian. Here's a question: Why wouldn't Sal ever be mentioned again after his crime?

..... wait, am insinuating that Iris was killed for not killing anyone???........ Nah.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:01 pm

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I think a year tops, after reading all this.

Also, I think the Sal incident, however funny, is probably actually what happened.

I'd imagine Dee flustered upon finding out he actually died

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:04 pm

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I'm confused at what you're asking. So you're asking if I think Sal was executed for his crime? No of course not. Adrian wasn't and Iris wasn't. Maybe I'm missing it, but as far as I can tell it still doesn't contradict my explanation. A year at the most and probably less in my opinion.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:05 pm

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Wrestlemania wrote:

Here's a question: Why wouldn't Sal ever be mentioned again after his crime?

Because ~~everybody hates Sal~~ there wasn't really a reason to bring him up again?

We can't use Sal as a comparison because we don't know exactly what happened with him.

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Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:07 pm

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Of course we do! He was asked to help Dee dispose of the body! That labels him for the same crime as Iris: Accomplice to Murder, and Fabrication of Evidence.

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Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:11 pm

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:20 pm

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Well, Armstrong was forced to do it. He was more like Lana Skye in a sense.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:22 pm

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:25 pm

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Thanks for all the help. I've seen a quote mentioning something about six months and another person, but I didn't know how to interpret that. The six months thing is an assumption based on the fact that only half a year has passed since the Engarde case when we see Adrian walking around again, right? Does she actually say that she had just been released? Could she conceivably have gotten out earlier or even have gotten off on probation? Or is that too much of a stretch, even considering the strange judical system the Phoenix Wright people have?

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This really should be labeled for spoilers...

Sheesh, that's what I get for trying to make the topic description as concise as possible. Don't we usually spoiler things in here? I thought only GS4 was off limits. I'm new here, so if I stepped on any toes, I'm sorry.

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Godot called for her help. I could've sworn she was meant to be the fall-back plan in case they couldn't contain Pearl.

Yeah, I remember that from the last part of the trial. Still, after reading the different arguments, I suppose I have a case if I want Iris to get off as quickly as Adrian. Not sure whether I'll need that, but it's good to be prepared.

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:39 pm

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....... alright, well, see everyone here for tea next week!

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Re: Projected prison time for Iris

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:44 pm

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Yeah, that's why I said within half a year. It's possible Adrian was released earlier, but it's never stated exactly how long her term was, so all we can go by is the facts that she's in charge of the exibit at Lordly Tailor seven months after 2-4 and had been working there at least 20 days prior to the robbery.

This is the PW3 forum, yeah, but not everyone who posts in it has actually finished the game, so a title mentioning Iris going to jail would be considered a spoiler. Sorry if I came off as angry or whatnot, blame my avatar.

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Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:51 pm

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Yeah, that's why I said within half a year. It's possible Adrian was released earlier, but it's never stated exactly how long her term was, so all we can go by is the facts that she's in charge of the exhibit at Lordly Tailor seven months after 2-4 and had been working there at least 20 days prior to the robbery.

This is the PW3 forum, yeah, but not everyone who posts in it has actually finished the game, so a title mentioning Iris going to jail would be considered a spoiler. Sorry if I came off as angry or whatnot, blame my avatar.

Welcome to the boards.

Thanks :)

Okay, so it doesn't state when she was released. I'll probably double-check this by restarting case 2, but this is good news. If I want to push things, I can let them both be kept until their own trials and released with probationary sentences. If I ever want to write a Phoenix/Iris story, it will probably work in my favor if she doesn't stay locked up for god knows how long.

Thanks for the advice also, I'll try to be a little more circumspect in the future.

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Re: Projected prison time for (Case 5 Spoiler)

Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:47 am

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Hey, you've already created 2 debate-worthy topics! Already, you are cool with me, ese!

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Re: Projected prison time for (Case 5 Spoiler)

Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:14 am

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Well, what can I say? :godot:

I've always been more the type for intellectual debate. Glad to see that sort of thing is appreciated here. I think I'm going to have a good time on these forums. :)

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Re: Projected prison time for (Case 5 Spoiler)

Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:01 pm

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Of course it's appreciated here! I do ANYTHING for a controversial topic, or a contradiction worth arguing! :larry2:

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